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Nothing like a Wednesday morning to get some perspective on where the Jaguars are as they shift their focus away from their nail-biting win over the Houston Texans and onto their Sunday Night Battle with the Battered and Broken Pittsburgh Steelers. Our friends at Behind the Steel Curtain, with whom we shall talk frequently throughout the week, probably disagree with that statement, but I'd imagine that they're really nervous about the physical game they're facing this weekend.
I don't ever get to say this about a team, but the Jaguars have had the Steelers number in recent history. I need not remind you that the Jaguars walked into Heinz Field twice last season and left with a victory, something that has never happened in Pittsburgh history. I won't go so far as to say we "own" them, I leave inflammatory rhetoric like that to other sites.
But anyhow, let's see what's bouncing around in the NFL world:
: The Colts are two and a half games behind in the AFC South. Let that sink in for a second. Tennessee leads the division, that's no doubt, but Jacksonville is a game behind and still alive in the division hunt. This year it's Indianapolis who's got a chance to be on the outside looking in (in the Divsion Title race).
: Kenny Pettway, the man who kept Richard Collier alive while waiting for help to arrive, was signed by the Green Bay Packers.
: Wayne Weaver gives his "State of the Jaguars". As usual, he reconfirms his committment to Jacksonville:
“It’s not necessarily that we were looking for partners,” Weaver said. “We’ve been approached obviously over the years, either to sell the team or something. My desire is to continue to build a wonderful winning tradition here in Jacksonville.”
In several interviews Wayne Weaver has never seemed less than 100% committed to keeping his team in the city of Jacksonville, despite being able to take part in a financial windfall if he were to ever sell. Unfortunately for Weaver, the Jaguars are in the bottom half of the league in attendance and they have one of the league’s lowest ticket prices.
“Obviously the economy is affecting every sector of our economy and it certainly has some affect on us,” Weaver explained. “We’ve just had to be creative and work a little harder, and we’re fortunate
:The Steelers have been decimated by injuries. Ok, so maybe not reduced by a factor of 10, but close to it. Without Willie Parker and Rashard Mendenhall, I don't know how the Steelers avoid throwing so many passes that Big Ben dosen't get blasted through the injury-riddled offensive line. My question is this, if Ben Roethlisberger blows up on his team in the locker room, is it "leadership" or a "quarterback falling apart"?
: Justin Durrant, Reggie Nelson, Jerry Porter, and Rashean Mathis should all practice this week. Brad Meester is still at least a week away from returning to the offensive line.
What's on your mind on this halfway to the weekend day?
-Chris
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Sunday Night...
How can I keep my over-confidence in check?
Pittsburgh looked wrecked Monday night. Just totally deflated. If Big Ben was any smaller, he too would have suffered an injury. I almost feel sorry for the guy.
by Jaghomer on Oct 1, 2008 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Injuries
Thats my focus this week. I cant wait until we can have all our guys back. Im not talking about the ones lost for the season but the guys who are expected to return soon. I get excited thinking about what could be if all of the players are healthy and gelling with each other. We are 2-2 because of injuries. 2 losses to 2 undefeated teams. I really believe that if we had been healthy, the Giants and the Jags would be the only 4-0 teams right now. Lets get our guys back, practice hard, and come out swinging this Sunday.
by JagSoldier on Oct 1, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Defense, DeFENSE, DEFENSE!!!
This, by far is the unit that gives me most concern. If you look back to last year’s 12/16 game at Pitt (which I was able to attend) our defense, especially our coverage has seriously dropped off. Even with a consistent pass rush. Those 2 games in the Burgh were tell tale signs that we were in trouble.
Fast forward to the present, and it has not changed. If it were not for the ablity to run the ball against Indy, and a fortunate toss of the coin, we would be 0-4 and looking at a mid round draft pick.
Now I know we are missing some players, but those players were in the first 3 games, and still couldn’t cover and hold the lead.
Now we get the Stillers (Pa Accent) again, and all of the sudden were lickin’ our chops, and chomping at the bit thinking this is gonna be the day we see Byron back on the field only because the OL (the zoo keepers) could’nt keep our Jags from feasting on Big Ben as if he was a piece of fresh meat hanging from the limb of a tree in the Jungle (The Jack).
May I remind you that even without FASSS…Willie, and the loss of Simmons on the line, and Mendenhal gone, they still put it together when it counted. That is because they have one intangible. It is Big Ben. He lit us up in both games last year, and Trent Edwards, Matt Shaub, Kerry Colins, and Peyton Manning have done the same to us this year. They are checking down, and when they don’t they have too much time to find the open guy streaking down/across the field.
Now I believe this will get better, but it all begins with a consistent pass rush. And, I’m not talking about getting a hand in the face, or flushing the guy out of the pocket. We all know how well Ben can make plays on the move, and with the guys he has to throw to it makes it that much more difficult for us to cover. We NEED to get home. We need Ben to develop a case of "Happy Feet’ Ala Peyton Manning. Bottom line. Only then will we be able to put teams away, and become the vaunted defense that this Jags team has been known for.
by JagsCub on Oct 1, 2008 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Said
Unfortunately, I agree completely with every point you made. I wish I was as optomistic and excited as Soldier, but I’m here with Cub. I’m not giving up on the season and I still think the best has yet to come, but we’re alot closer to 0-4 than 4-0 and this isn’t gonna change until the quarterbacks start going down. I think this week is an important game for our season though. If the Jaguars can come away with a win this week, they’ll be above 500 and back in the hunt.
by SoCalStites on Oct 1, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pass Rush
With the steelers o-line being one of the worst in the league, if our defensive front can’t get pressure in this game I will be very scared. What has happened to Big John Henderson? In 2006 he was playing like the Albert Haynesworth of today. Last year he had a down year but showed signs towards the end of the season. We need him to take up two offensive linemen on every play and sometimes win that battle. Then hopefully the ends can beat their guy and Mier, Mcdaniel, Landri, or Kennedy can penetrate the inside and get at the QB. Once that happens, those DE’s should be able to free up and hit Big Ben.
I’m flying back from California to see this game. Not sure how many other games I’ll be able to make it back for so I sure hope we get a win on Sunday.
by jimbrophoto on Oct 1, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's no question about the OL of Ptt
being a large block of swiss cheese. As a matter of fact, I believe they will get to him. However, if they don’t and Ben gets flushed, or checks down… with our coverage being what it is I am afraid of what Ben can do.
by JagsCub on Oct 1, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Landri...
Where’s he been? I enjoyed the speed from the DT position last year, but I don’t remember hearing his name once this season
by SoCalStites on Oct 1, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he's been injured abit.
To be master of oneself and never waiver in ones resolve.
- Maximus Desimus Meridius
by jagsrock on Oct 3, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
he was hurt early. He’s playing consistantly now, but he’s the 4th of 5 DT’s in the rotation. Generally he’s in there to give Meier a rest, but IMO he should be in there a little more often because Meier becomes less effective when he’s in there too long. He takes longer to get off the ball the more he plays, especially if Pitt does decide to run the no huddle.
by Ewdtrey on Oct 4, 2008 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO, if the Jaguars win these next two games(Pitt and @Denver) it will setup the rest of the season nicely. We then get a 3 game stand against bottom dwellers in Cleveland, Detroit, and Cincy. We would then be sitting at 7-2 with Tennessee coming to town.
-John
by FSBlueApocalypse on Oct 1, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You make a great point!
Out of these next 2 games the one that worries me is Pitt. If we can get these next 2, and the Titans stumble we could very well be in 1st place either before, or after the Titans game. As Ric Flair would say, “WHOOO!!! How Sweet It Is!”
by JagsCub on Oct 1, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looking ahead...
Although I am feeling confident about this weeks game, I have never been a fan of forcasting the future. One game at a time and everyone knows ‘any given sunday’. The focus is Pittsburgh and bringing down the ‘Big Ben’. The injury game is definately on the Jags side and hopefully after the first 80 yard, 12 minute drive by the Jags, the Steelers will just want to pack it in and look towards their bye week for recovery. If with any luck, Lemon will see some play time and this will bode well for the team confidence level.
by Jaghomer on Oct 2, 2008 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jags D versus O
From a steeler fan perspective I’m actually much more worried about your offense then your defense at this point. I think Ben and the skill players on offense can take advantage of mismatches as long as they’re making good decisions.
But man is it hard to swallow the fact that ya’ll made running the ball on the Steelers look like running on Bengals. And this week we’re short 2/3 of the D-Line. I’ll be interested to see the rushing totals this time.
Good luck, and I hope you lose, my week just goes better when the Steelers win.
by Chicago Steeler on Oct 1, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you!
Thank you for your comments! I mean that literally, not sarcastically. It’s nice to hear from the fans of opposing teams prior to the game. And it’s nice reading intelligent postings rather that B.S. rah rah, in your face; we must protect this house, crap. I agree, my week goes a lot better when the Jags win too. It’s funny how that works, huh. Anyway, good luck (but not TOO much) to you too! Enjoy the game.
by jagsfanbrunell on Oct 1, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as
our O-Line (Steelers fan here) has had problems, the Jags have had many of the same, giving up it’s fair share of sacks. Missing Vince Manuwai will do that. I would definitely also say that our pass rush is equal or superior to any team you’ve faced (yes including Tennessee, who I believe is the only team ahead of us in sacks). With your interior line problems, it makes it tough for the backups on the interior to give help to the tackles, who will have their hands full with LaMarr Woodley and James Harrison, two of the best pass-rushing OLBs in the league (3 1/2 and 6 sacks apiece so far respectively). I think both defenses are pretty good, but Pittsburgh has the better defense. And while our offense hasn’t been good lately, that was also against the Browns in 50MPH winds, the Eagles (a very good defense), and the Ravens (great defense). Even so at the end of the Ravens game we were starting to get a rhythm and I believe that will carry over to this week. I thought Ben getting on his offense at halftime is what any good leader/QB does.
Concerns for the Steelers are stopping Jones-Drew and Taylor, but this is a bit mitigated by the injuries to the interior of the Jags line. The biggest concern will be (as always) stopping the pass rush (which we seemed to finally pick up in 2nd half against Baltimore), and stopping the dump-offs to your RBs, which killed us last year against you guys. Regardless, you guys have had our number and Del Rio is an excellent coach. I’m very excited for this game, the Steelers have shown a ton of mental toughness the last few weeks and I do expect a Steelers win of course, but also I expect another great physical game with the Jags. I love playing teams like you and the Ravens, it’s real man’s football!
by TheMostViolentTeam on Oct 1, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TheMostViolentTeam
I said that I enjoy reading “intelligent postings.” Just kidding. Guess we’ll find out how well both of our damaged O lines can play.
by jagsfanbrunell on Oct 1, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what
was wrong with my post?
by TheMostViolentTeam on Oct 2, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't EVEN be over confident!
I’m with “socaljagsfan” I think we were closer to losing all four games than we were winning them. The Steelers are beat up but it’s not like the backups are high school players. The backup players in the NFL are darn good (except maybe at corner and QB). They are fully prepared for their role and they have the added incentive of making a name for themselves with the opportunity that has been given them. The Jags Rob Meier is a good example of this. He has made some big plays since coming in for Stroud and his stock has gone way up.
Like always, the Jaguars hold the keys to their own fate. Here is what I think the Jaguars have to do to win:
1.) Run the ball. The jaguars have to give the ball to Fred Taylor and let him do what he does against Pittsburgh. The Intangibles that the Steelers own are Tradition and Pride. They do not want to lose to the Jaguars AGAIN and they will draw on history for added inspiration. Unfortunately for Pittsburgh, that same history and tradition of the Steelers seems to light a fire under Fred. Jacksonville needs to exploit that by feeding the ball to Fred until he breaks off a few pounding, tackle breaking, linebacker whiffing runs that will demoralize Pittsburgh in a big way. The sooner they are thinking “here we go again” the better.
2.) Get penetration on defense. It would be great if our defensive ends were coming at Big Ben like T-Rexes disrupting the pass and eating Roethlis – bergers but I wouldn’t count on it. What I think we need and are more likely get is penetration into the interior from the D-line. If our tackles can play a few yards into the offense not only will we be able to stop the run we will make an already gun shy QB even more uncomfortable. Nobody wants to see Big John coming at them with a full head of steam. If Henderson and Meier can be disruptive early they will create opportunities for Harvey and Groves coming from the edges and Ben will be in for another long day. We can’t depend on coverage to stop the Steelers offense. We have to come at them right up the middle.
3.) Special teams have to continue their high level of play. A big run back by MJD or even better, by Witherspoon would be a real back breaker.
Ultimately, the team that executes it’s game plan best will come out ahead (duh!). If the Jags can avoid the double whammy of over-confidence coupled with a vengeance seeking Steelers squad they will win this game 21 – 17
by elgatojaguar on Oct 2, 2008 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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