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17-0. That was the score of the 4th quarter. The Jaguars took a 10 point lead into the 4th quarter and promptly fell apart. Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Buffalo, Cleveland, same song and dance as before. I'm struggling to put the kind of disappointment I feel into words right now.
Reggie Nelson still trying to figure out this "Covering the Wide Receiver" thing
I'm now of the opinion Jack Del Rio isn't going to get us to the promised land. There, I said it. The amount of 4th quarter collapses we've had this season shows that. I hate to be the sky is falling type, especially after Tkopa's recent post, but I can't help but feel this way. Whether it was the motivation from Richard Collier, wanting to kick the Colts out of the playoffs, whatever, this team failed to get it done when it counted.
You all saw it in your minds on that last drive. Garrard hitting a receiver in the back of the endzone, then taking it in for 2 on the QB draw. Instead we have David taking a sack to end the game and any hope of having a good feeling going into the off season. Hopefully Al Davis fill fall asleep on Draft Day and we'll get to get to jump a spot.
29 of 34 for 364 yards, three touchdowns and a 140.7 passer rating. Peyton Manning's stat line. I don't even think I've had a game this good in Madden. We all know the defense hasn't been up to it's usual standard under Del Rio, but that's ridicolous. How fitting our 2008 season ends, as far as I'm concerned, the same way our 2007 season ended, with no pass rush and a QB at the top of his game picking up apart.
So where does this team go from here? We have a lame duck game against Baltimore next week before the offseason begins. Some predictions
1. Shack Harris will be gone before the Super Bowl
2. Players who will be cut/go into free agency: Mike Peterson, Jerry Porter, Troy Williamson, Khalif Barnes, Reggie Williams, and Dreyton Florence
3. Jack Del Rio is going to have a meeting with Wayne Weaver and be told it's all or nothing next year. Either a deep playoff run or he'll be joining Shack.
4. Whoever the new GM is will have full power over personell decisions.
5. Somebody is going to say something to the press and ESPN is going to run with it for a week how "The Jaguars were never in it this season." You don't have a crash and burn season like this without it.
6. Some reporter is going to quote an anonymous source saying the Jags are LA bound.
7. If Tebow comes out, I'm putting the over/under at 7 fanposts from new members asking if we're taking him in the First Round.
A season of such promise, I figured this morning I'd be working the phones on trying to score some playoff tickets and wondering if I should say to hell with it and plop down the cash for Super Bowl tickets. Instead I'll be counting down until Draft Day. 126 days until your Jaguars make their first round selection.
-John " Peyton Manning falls right after Hitler, Stalin, and Mao"
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I have to disagree about Jack
Jack wasn’t out there [not] rushing the passer or [not] covering receivers or [fail] blocking for Garrard. In hindsight, maybe he should’ve vetoed that slant pass that became the pick-6, but if we could do whatever we wanted all the time on offense, we probably wouldn’t have to run so many slants in the first place. Peyton Manning is always unstoppable if there is no pass rush, and [checks to see what team this is, ohhhhh, right] there was no pass rush. Jack fully recognized that Manning would continue to barbeque the defense in overtime, so he already had a 2-point play picked out for the end.
There’s nothing else a coach can do except put the players in position to make plays. The left side of the line did not make a play, got overrun, and allowed the sack. Game over. If that hadn’t happened and we were successful on the 2-point conversion, we would all be here talking about how awesome Jack is for going for the win and sweeping the Colts and blah blah blah. And if the only difference is how well our [probably gone in the offseason and replaced by a 1st round draft pick] left tackle executes a block, then that’s no basis at all for judging whether or not Jack is leading the Jags to the promised land.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 19, 2008 7:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This game was the icing on the cake
I’ve made note several times how this team never seems to find a way to kick it up to the next gear, and I guess this was the last straw. I’ll be willing to give him another chance, but we need serious improvement.
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Dec 19, 2008 7:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
completely agree
This team has had the ’knack" for NOT making the critical play at the critical time – on both sides of the ball.
by OGN on Dec 19, 2008 7:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's Always on the coach
Chains
The head coach has responsibility for the performance of his team. When Jack came here, he was touted as a defensive coach—that’s his specialty. There had to be a better scheme for getting at least some pressure on Manning. For a coach, it’s never enough to “put players into position to make plays.” The win-loss column is what decides if you stay in town. And for those waiting for D Harvey’s “progression”—forget about it. Even by rookie standards, he looked awful last night. While he shouldn’t be expected to be dominant, he should show some game and promise for the future. He didn’t.
On the bright side, MJD may be unstoppable next year. The off season will be a tough one. We need to shore up our offensive line, and we didn’t do much to improve our defensive line. Toug decisions loom ahead!
by JAGS1995 on Dec 19, 2008 8:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The real problem is that fans
Always put it on the coach. It’s understandable because it’s much easier to find one scapegoat than have to dissect a roster and admit that many areas are deficient in talent. The better scheme for getting pressure on Manning? Having players that can rush the passer well. Do we have that? No, we don’t. You can try to stop a tank with a nerf gun, dig nerf foxholes, lay nerf landmines, position yourself in the best way possible…. but in the end, you’re fighting with a nerf gun, and they have a TANK. (I imagine this scenario is probably a lot like Poland versus the Nazis)
As for Harvey, I hope you’re wrong. You might not be, but I really want to at least give him a training camp.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 19, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also I just wanted to add
If the rumor mill is true and we’re looking to acquire Plax or Braylon Edwards, we need to ship Shack out of town even quicker
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Dec 19, 2008 8:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh No
Edwards wouldn’t be too bad, but I think Plax is way too much of prima donna. Chemistry was bad this year, how is he going to improve. If we do this why don’t get T.O. as well and let the fireworks start…..
by Kingfysh on Dec 19, 2008 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd prefer neither
I wouldn’t be extremely upset if Braylon came to Jacksonville, but I wouldn’t be happy. We’re complaining about drops from our receivers and this guy would probably not make us any happier. That guy drops absolutely everything.
by SoCalStites on Dec 19, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Edwards.....Maybe
Edwards may give the Jaguars a deep threat that is needed. Edwards has the athletic ability to get seperation, that alone is more than what most of our current receivers can do.
by Kingfysh on Dec 19, 2008 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Comparing Peyton Manning to Hitler
Nice. Enjoy the off-season, pal.
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by BigBlueShoe on Dec 19, 2008 9:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
There's a Gandhi quote I'm going to modify cause I think it fits the situation
I like your Coach, I do not like your fans. Your fans are so unlike your Coach.
I will be enjoying the off season, just as much as you guys will after the divisional round.
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks
by FSBlueApocalypse on Dec 19, 2008 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The game last night
proved that both teams have heart and fight to win. A very fine line sometimes is all that separates one team from winning and the other losing. Both games between Indy and J-ville could have gone either way this year. Will the Colts lose in the divisional round? Maybe, maybe not. As a fan, of course, I hope they win it all. Time will tell.
by Ayrshire on Dec 19, 2008 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Loser
All you have is your bitterness. Have fun rooting for your team… when they are in LA!
by MasterRWayne on Dec 19, 2008 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My god
John goes a little off the reservation and everyone’s head goes to mush.
MasterRWayne: I expect better of you, LA, jeeze. -1 for lack of creativity.
BBS: I’ve no idea what he was going for listing Manning behind the dictators. It won’t happen again.
-Chris
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by River City Rage on Dec 19, 2008 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
This post was way too negative and didn’t give enough credit the the Jaguars and coaches who are still knocking their brains and hearts out to play. Peyton Manning is fanastic and to watch him play is a standard we should aspire to see in David. The Colts are very well coached and also a standard we should aspire our ciaching staff to achieve.
by Tkopa on Dec 19, 2008 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah come on, it wasn't that bad.
We all know that FSBlue doesn’t really think that Peyton should be in Hell burning along with Hitler and the rest. It was just a funny little jab with him trying to express his frustration of how great a QB Peyton is.
by MarkFive05 on Dec 20, 2008 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not just the Hitler comment
The whole tone of the post is wrong.
by Tkopa on Dec 20, 2008 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand this is full of vinegar
But things just came to a head Thursday night watching this team blow ANOTHER 4th quarter lead. Injuries or not, these kind of losses come down to coaching
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks
by FSBlueApocalypse on Dec 21, 2008 9:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And again I ask
What else could the coaching staff have done there? Looking unprepared and/or disinterested and getting owned for a full game comes down to coaching. That is not the case here.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 21, 2008 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JDR retired years ago
JDR wasn’t on the field last night – don’t blame him. Its the players, mainly defensive side of the ball. Its been that way all year. Start with those 2 Gators, Reggie Nelson is lost out there and can’t tackle. 2008 draft was wasted on Derrick Harvey. Could have had him or someone with equal talent if they stayed where they were in the draft, nobody else rated him that high. This defense accomplished one thing this year – it made opposing QBs look like All-Pro’s in the 4th quarter.
by jagsrealist on Dec 19, 2008 10:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you here
Shack Harris has to go, but I don’t know what more Jack could’ve done. Garrard had the throw to Reggie to win it and didn’t make it.
by SoCalStites on Dec 19, 2008 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Drafting
I am sick of the people in Jax that want the Jaguars to draft every single Gator that comes out in the draft. If Tebow declares for the draft the town is going to nuts for us to draft him. I am not an expert in football and certainly not at the QB position, but it seems like scrambling QBs do not last in the NFL and invariably end up injured…….. or in jail for dog fighting.
by Kingfysh on Dec 19, 2008 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wellllllll
I believe many other teams had Reggie Nelson rated about the same place the Jags did. And I don’t think Shack reached for Harvey because he was a Gator – he did it because he thought he was good. And Percy Harvin is a legitimate deep threat that would be talked about just as much if he came from notUF.
But you’re right. The blind devotion has to stop, and I’m from UF. And drafting Tebow would be a terrible mistake. At the very least, I don’t want the Jags to be the team that gets burned by taking a chance on him.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 19, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's natural
The fans in Florida watch a lot of UF football so they see these same players a lot and naturally they want the ones that look good to them. A BYU fan who lives in Florida is going to want the Jaguars to draft their favorite player from BYU, that’s just the way it is.
I don’t think the Jaguars pick from Florida as much as everyone makes it seem. Besides these last two 1st rounders it was only really Fred in ‘98 before that. Just 3 years ago the Jaguars took UCLA guys in the 1st and 2nd round, but it wasn’t because the coach or GM are UCLA fans.
by SoCalStites on Dec 19, 2008 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's just natural to make the connection and something for the talking heads on ESPN to deal with
Didn’t the Bucs under Dungy get accused of the same thing? I remember they drafted UF/FSU/Miami players by the boat load.
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Dec 20, 2008 6:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He reached for Harvey
because he did not persue a DE in FA and it was a position of great need – that’s why he basically blew the entire draft on one guy – definately on 2 guys. Considering what the Ravens did with THOSE picks to get Harvey – it was a bad deal.
by OGN on Dec 20, 2008 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why does it matter who they used they used the picks to draft?
If Harvey and Groves had performed well as rooks then we would be saying we won the trade. The Front Office gambled and came up short… big time. Thats why is was a bad trade. Because the players underperformed.
If Jeremy Shockey had made a career high in receptions and led the saints to the playoffs, then his trade would have been a good one. Instead, he’s been injured and a distraction who hasn’t produced. So it was a bad trade for the Saints. bottom line.
by silencecs on Dec 20, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shoot I'm hard pressed to find FA's that worked this year
Kawika Mitchell, Chad Pennington, Michael Turner. There are maybe a few more, but those weren’t easy to come up with. Most teams didn’t get much for what they paid for. Asante Samuel has done ok too, but he was super expensive. (Note this is all off the top of my head.)
by Ewdtrey on Dec 20, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you rather he had pursued a DE by FA or trade?
Because Jason Taylor admits he stinks. Jared Allen is not doing bad, but he keeps drawing silly fines and I’m not sure we need more hotheads on this team. And there’s not many people beyond that.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 20, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What Jags Are We Talking About?
What Jaguars team are we talking about? This year’s Jaguars was completely mediocre and we have the record that a mediocre team deserves. Movethoschains is right, JDR cannot come off the sideline and make plays. He can only put players in positions to make plays. I will admit he is not the next Madden or Ditka, but he is a good coach.
North Florida has completely unrealistic expectations from a football program. Face it, we all learned about football from watching UF, FSU, Miami, and Georgia, well when was the last time any of those programs (especielly UF) had a season record of 5-11 (lets face it that is what we headed for). We all expect the Jaguars to win and keep winning every week and every season, no excuses accepted. Well, that might be possible if the NFL worked like college football, but an NFL team plays a 16 game schedule, 20 if you include the pre-season and half of those games are away. If we could have a schedule like UF with 3/4 of the season at home and of that a quarter to half of that season is against opponents that cannot compete. Imagine what would happen if UF had to go north of Mason Dixon line in November, nevermind late December.
As fans we need to be realistic and realize that at its core this is a good team. We have had a bad season, no denying that, and there are various reasons for this bad season and enough blame to go around throughout the organization, players included. Look at what is going well, Shack Harris is probably going to be fired, his player selections in the draft and free agency on average have not been very successful. That said there he has not gone to the media to defend himself or criticized JDR, Wayne Weaver, or the players. There is no power struggle going on in the front office or on the sidelines between the coaches. The owner of the team still backs the team and (for the most part) the city of Jacksonville. Our core players are good, maybe not at the level of Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, but they are elite and elite players are rare.
Without a doubt there are holes on the team that need to be filled. But, lets be real who expected the Jaguars to lead the Colts into the fourth quarter and then almost tie and possibly win the ball game. This Jaguars team is not going to the Super Bowl, we aren’t even going to the post season. Did you really think the Jaguars were going to win? I didn’t and if a loss can be good this one was. We have been complaining that JDR has lost this team, that they aren’t playing with emotion, and that the players aren’t playing to their full potential, well I don’t think you can say that about last night. Reggie Nelson blew a few coverages and David Garrard threw a pick that went back for a touchdown, two game deciding mistakes. If the Jags had played with this much intensity and drive throughout the year our record would be much better. Unfortunately, last night we played one of the best QBs in the game ever and he didn’t make any mistakes.
Lets face it, the better team won. The Jags will be back, the fundamentals in the organization are good. As fans we expect a Super Bowl bound team every year, but it doesn’t work that way. You can’t force Super Bowls, we have now tried twice and failed, the Redskins and Cowboys try repeatedly and have been failing as well. We need to be patient and let any Super Bowl appearence occur organicly.
by Kingfysh on Dec 19, 2008 12:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That was a great post
sentimets exactly.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 19, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand this isnt college football where we get to play Duke/Vandy/in our case Detroit every other week
However, both this game and the second Titans game troubles me alot. We race out to big leads then proceed to choke them away. Not to mention all the other 4th quarter losses this season. The last time I could remember this many gut wrenching losses was 2002, and that team possibly had less talent than the 95 expansion team.
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Dec 20, 2008 6:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Apples to Oranges
I agree about the loss to the Titans, who I personally think are a good team that is well coached, managed, and has benefited from a fairly easy schedule, and luck. But, the Colts with Manning that is another story. Manning is the Colts, who else on that team was having as good a night? Manning beat us, not the Colts. Take away Manning and give them a good, but not elite QB and I think we would have won…… Our season was wrecked in the first few weeks, I don’t think there is a team out there that can suffer the devastating injuries to their O-line and still perform up to high expectations. Age was creeping up on the Jags and our receivers would still be mediocre, but Garrard would have more time, feel more comfortable and not be taking the physical pounding that he has taken all season.
Want to think about something scary? Suppose we had stuck with Leftwich at QB? He would have been destroyed by week six.
by Kingfysh on Dec 20, 2008 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
worst devensive play of the game
Brian Williams in press coverage on Reggie Wayne, with Reggie Nelson in a Cover 2 shell over the top. Peyton steps up and actually fakes like he might run, Reggie bites and Wayne blows right past him for the easiest touchdown ever. Nelson wasn’t even paying attention to Reggie Wayne.
That was THE picture perfect example of when you hear coaches talk about “Not doing your job. Trying to do someone else’s job and trying to do too much.”
Clearly Brian Williams had it covered if Peyton decided for the first time in his career to scramble. Last time I checked, Brian Williams is 3-times the tackler Reggie Nelson is.
Nelson this year has been a huge disappointment. Besides closing out the game in Green Bay, he’s done almost nothing. That interception against Tennessee was on 3rd down and they couldn’t have expected to ever pin the Jags down that close to the goal with a punt. I think he had one good pass defense last night but nowhere near the expectations we had for him coming out of college.
Certainly no comparison to Ed Reed like I heard Donnie Henderson say this past offseason.
by jimbrophoto on Dec 19, 2008 12:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He was actually improving
until this game anyhow. He’ll learn. You’ll see. Luckily we are in a losing season, to be able to afford mistakes.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 19, 2008 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed the game
And I realized how bad this season has been when I wasn’t even that upset over losing. I was just happy we were in the game in the final seconds. Remember this is a Colts team who needed one win to make the playoffs and with their final game being against the Titans, they really wanted to win this one. I was proud of the performance and just happy that the final Jag game I will get to watch this year was a good one, even if we didn’t win.
I was wondering what you guys thought about the last play. After Garrard was sacked, we scrambled to get one last play in, and I know I saw 1 second left on the game clock as they snapped it, but they blew the game over. Now, I realize we probably weren’t set, but I have seen tons of game where a referee still announces a penalty even though time has expired and it’s just a formality. I saw them get the ball snapped in time (if I’m wrong, then it doesn’t matter), but I think they needed to throw the flag or let them play. Did anyone else see or think this, or did my eyes deceive me?
by Nebraska Jag on Dec 19, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was definitely close
but I don’t think they got it off.
by SoCalStites on Dec 19, 2008 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they got it off either,
but I think the refs were a little slow to realize that MJD was hurt. That costed us a few all important seconds that we obviously could have used. Shoot, we only need half a second. But that’s neither here nor there.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 19, 2008 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a fun game
It was exciting. They were playcalling like I would have. That makes me really happy.
BTW, I don’t think anyone can call Garrard not clutch. Not after last year. Not after all those third and longs in this game. Not after the 4th down conversion. Or the TD run he tried so very hard to get and got. And if Northcutt made that catch in the second to last drive, granted it was a very hard catch, and if Barnes didn’t get wrongly called for holding he would have been nearly perfect on third downs which is especially impressive considering how many of them were long downs. Shoot up until the pick I thought Garrard outplayed Manning. Or at least he showed me more than Manning did. He was running when he needed to. He had time in the pocket, but Manning had years in the pocket it seemed. But Manning also had probowl receivers being covered by people like Florence, Williams, and newbie UDFA Witherspoon all of which were schooled one time or another. Garrard also had to suffer through a few drops, which weren’t all that bad in this game, but it was a close game so they were important especially considering how long each teams offensive drives were. Any drive that didn’t result in points was huge. I had a fun time watching the game. I hate losing, but if we have nothing to lose that’s just it. We have nothing to lose.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 19, 2008 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't play call the way I would have
I was yelling for them to run the ball on the drive where Garrard threw the pick. I was yelling for them to run the ball on the drive where they had to punt. Every time Maurice got the ball he was getting at least 4 yards, why stop?
by SoCalStites on Dec 19, 2008 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they did stop
I just think they were continuing to mix it up, because they were starting to compress the field more than they were before. They were starting to show 9 man fronts and stuff.
Also after looking at the play where MJD was hurt, he went down with 42 seconds to play and then we had the ball set again with 19 seconds left to play. That’s a little more than 10 seconds. That’s an over exaggeration of the reason we have a ten second run off.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 19, 2008 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Faulting the play call
If the pass had not been picked and gone for twenty yards another fan would have been saying, “They need to keep passing!” As fans we all think a little bit of high school football and some Madden makes us experts. That said we do rely on the same few plays too much, but that problem goes back to the receivers. We have no speed at the position….. I think we just need a few more players and we will return to where we were last year.
by Kingfysh on Dec 19, 2008 7:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Plays don't really matter to me
It boils down to run or pass to me. Either you can or you can’t. The run was proving to be unstoppable as the line was getting a great push every time and the pass is just too inconsistent for me. The pick was bound to happen, David got lucky plenty of times and it finally came around and got him.
by SoCalStites on Dec 19, 2008 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He only really got lucky once from what I rememeber
That was the pass over the top to Wrighster. He did throw some dangerous passes. But you gotta throw them from time to time. On the run or pass note, you can’t wait till you can’t run anymore to throw again. By then its too late.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 19, 2008 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Play calling is incredibly important.
It’s another route to gain an advantage on the field. Good play calling (like Jon Gruden’s) can pull even a mediocre offense into productivity. He’s a genius.
I’ve met Gruden… and you Dirk, are no Jon Gruden
-Collin
by silencecs on Dec 20, 2008 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You've met Gruden?
I think story time is in order.
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Dec 20, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing big. I worked at the Buccaneer official store and we also published a magazine called Pewter Report.
Jon came in once every month or two and I had a chance to talk to him on a few occasions. Nothing substantial, but it was cool to meet the guy.
-Collin
by silencecs on Dec 20, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Gruden
is NO genius……trust me on this one.
by Ayrshire on Dec 20, 2008 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Gruden
is a genius. He doesn’t make the best offseason moves, but when it comes to in game stuff and plays, I love him.
by SoCalStites on Dec 20, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Missing Fred
Socaljagsfan, I see your point. I think they worry about using MJD too much, after him there isn’t much depth. If Fred had been healthy I think we would have just run run run and quite possibly won the game.
by Kingfysh on Dec 19, 2008 11:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We would have won...
If we had Fred or Rasheen. We either would have ran it down their throats to a victory with Fred, maybe preventing Garrard’s pick six, or Sheen would have gave our secondary the nudge they needed to keep one Colt TD off the board, and in both situations Scobee would have kicked the game winner in that final drive.
by Nebraska Jag on Dec 20, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With games as close as that one
there isn’t a whole lot of positives that wouldn’t have put us over the top.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 21, 2008 4:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was following the game on my cell phone
and I’m thinking to myself that this is the year we sweep the Colts … couldn’t do it as a juggernaut, couldn’t do it as a doormat for the rest of the division, couldn’t do it at all. Before now, this awful gut-wrenching season of abject failure and misery. THIS has to be the year we sweep the Colts and it means jack SQUAT. And then the 4th quarter happened. I smiled.
I’d like to pulverize Indy when it matters: on our way to a division, conference, and Super Bowl title.
by Lancers46 on Dec 21, 2008 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So did your cell phone
open up like a stadium with a little football that flew through the uprights on kicks like the commercial?
If so I need to sign up for that.
by SoCalStites on Dec 21, 2008 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It opened up
when I dropped it. The only thing that flew was the battery. sighs
by Lancers46 on Dec 22, 2008 2:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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