The Rise or Fall of Jack Del Rio
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April 15, 1865, Abraham Lincoln, lay dying on a small bed in a cheap hotel across the street from Ford's Theater. At his side was his Secretary of War, Edwin M Stanton. Edwin Stanton was the meanest most insensitive SOB around, a man who would first embarrass and then demote military officers at will; a man who delighted in mocking others and openly referred to Lincoln as that "idiot in the White House". Lincoln promoted him to Secretary of War because he believed Stanton was the most qualified for the job. When Lincoln drew his final breath, Edwin M Stanton spoke the now famous line "There lies the greatest master of men that ever lived".
Lincoln let Stanton know who was in charge, but he also showed him respect for his ability. He returned the obnoxious behavior and insults with patience. Eventually Stanton wore down and became a very loyal supporter. Among NFL coaches today, Tony Dungy strikes me as a Lincoln kind of man.
Bill Belichick's time in Cleveland was referred to as a "reign of error". In an article written for the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Tony Grossi reported this quote: "We never saw this potential in him, going to four Super Bowls," said former running back Kevin Mack. "We all knew he was a good coach, a great defensive coach. It's just surprising, really amazing, what's happened in New England. But there, he had a little more experience and got to reflect on what he did wrong.
Despite what you may think about Bill Belichick's personality, he never allowed himself to get in the way of his own success. If he needed to change, he recognized it and changed. He learned how to grow from defeat and failure. He always was a good judge of talent, now he is a good manager of talent as well. Another coach with that ability is John Gruden who, in my opinion, looks to be the next elite coach in the NFL.
I have witnessed people with high profile responsibilities, when faced with difficult times do one of two things; try to escape blame or accept responsibility and dive right in. Escaping blame doesn't work for long and when it catches up to you, you are done forever. Trying to solve the problem at least gives you a chance. In a storm, the crew must believe the captain is there and will guide them through, if not panic and rebellion set in.
So now we come to the current situation Jack Del Rio finds himself in. Jack Del Rio is not an elite coach despite his pay. He is still a head coach in training with a chance to be an elite coach. As he stares into the abyss of failure, he either emerges stronger with more inner strength, or he is swallowed up and soon forgotten. Here are the things he must do to survive and advance as a coach:
First; maintain a healthy football attitude and retain human dignity inside the organization. It is still a game and it is supposed to be fun but if the blame game and posturing starts, the ship sinks. Gary Kubiak, in my opinion, is going under as a coach because he points to others for reasons as to the team's shortcomings. Norv Turner has recently started going negative. Job loss is only a matter of time for both of them. Jack must maintain a healthy work environment and not let it grow toxic. He needs good people to respect him and want to work for him. Right now the phones are ringing as agents try to get their clients out of Jacksonville before the axe falls, while others, anticipating the axe, are trying to get their clients in. Good people only want to work for a good boss. Losers are always looking for work.
Second; the talent evaluation must be very realistic. The reason new coaches make an immediate impact is because they have no past with any of the players and are free to do an honest evaluation. Coaches develop a history with players and refuse to give it up, both for the good and the bad. If favoritism wins out over performance, the ship sinks. I don't like the feel of the Mike Peterson episode or the situation playing out with Fred Taylor. Abandon the Salvation Army rehabilitation approach to developing players, find the warriors and go to war.
Third; find the heart core again. Right now, I don't believe I can identify the core group of players that make up the heart of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Give up on this "grass is greener" approach to upgrading the team. We give away good players to free agency and get lesser ones back at more money. Dion Grant went to free agency and we replaced him with rookie Reggie Nelson and then paid Drayton Florence to come help. Jeff Fisher and Tony Dungy work at keeping their playmakers and avoid free agency. Identify, grow and reward the talent within. Create the heart of the team again, whoever it is.
Fourth; ensure your coaches are great teachers, not just good guys to hang with. Potential does not automatically turn into success and rookies don't arrive fully ready to play. Derrick Harvey has the skills, but has never truly learned his craft. He didn't play football until his junior year in high school and came out early from college. Ray Hamilton was our Defensive Line coach in 2007 before joining Mike Smith in Atlanta. Before Ray Hamilton, Atlanta was 30th in QB sacks, this year they are 15th. We were 9th before Ray left. Ray Hamilton knows how to teach. Derrick Harvey would have more sacks. Find Ray Hamilton!
So there you have it Jack, do these four things:
- Own the problem and create a great opportunity for good people.
- Be a shrewd and honest talent evaluator; see players from a new coach's eye.
- Develop a core of playmakers; bring heart back to the team.
- Have coaches that teach and can bring out potential.
Finally, Vince Lombardi is not revered because he won football games. He is revered because he led and inspired men who then went out and won football games. Those same men became successful in life as well. Jack, this is your moment as a man and a coach. Earn the loyalty of great coaches with strength and respect. Earn the player loyalty by finding and playing the best. Keep your dignity like Lincoln did when those next to you question your intelligence. Tony Dungy experienced the same treatment and he survived. I believe you can do it Jack. We will all be watching.
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Excellent Post
This is the reason that I don’t want Jack fired after this season. It’s seasons like this one that define a coach and their ability to keep control over a bad situation and he should get the opportunity to turn the mess around. If he proves himself to be unable to fix the team then a new coach should be hired, but right now Jack Del Rio is the coach and is the captain of the ship.
by SoCalStites on Dec 8, 2008 12:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He made some really questionable calls in the game....
To go for it on 4th in the 3rd quarter instead of taking the FG was very STUPID, then he compounds his mistake by challenging the play AFTER a commercial break, when he would’ve had time to review the footage, why make a bad call worse Jack?
by silencecs on Dec 8, 2008 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought and still think that play was very close
It could’ve been overturned. I think the announcers downplayed it as something that had no shot when it looked like it could’ve been ruled the other way. They said he didn’t maintain control the whole time, but it looked like he had a strong control of it, just not in an orthodox way. He had the ball pinned to his stomach with one arm and after he fell out of bounds he still had it the same way.
by SoCalStites on Dec 8, 2008 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
please don't hurt me...
this is gonna sound ridiculous, because I too hope to have Del Rio back with the Jags next season. BUT, hypothetically speaking, if the Jaguars had a chance to hire Brian Billick as HC (which they probably won’t), who should we take?
by car-ramrod on Dec 8, 2008 12:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
gotta keep Del Rio
He just got a huge extension. I think he coaches desperate though, which I don’t like. It seems he’s done it more this season than before.
-Collin
by silencecs on Dec 8, 2008 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't know about Jack right now
I wanted to write a post in which I thought a great leader and coach would follow to bring back a team. This was my attempt to follow Jacks progress and see how close to the ideal he comes. To be honest, I have my doubts. Would I hire Billick? I would feel more secure going into next year if we do. To quote a great statement “He has made some really questionable calls…”.
by Tkopa on Dec 8, 2008 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way
Congratulations on the columnist title. You deserve it.
by SoCalStites on Dec 8, 2008 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Financially
I know that it makes the most sense to keep Del Rio. I do believe that he is a good coach, and maybe he deserves a pass this season given the injuries to the line. I’m just not sure he has the ability to maintain consistency with the Jags. Billick’s a great offensive mind, who also coached and constructed one of the decade’s most dominant defenses. He even won a Super Bowl… with Trent Dilfer. Honestly, I think he’d fit really well with the Jags, and could maximize the talent on our roster. On the other hand, I’m willing to stick with Del Rio for another year.
by car-ramrod on Dec 8, 2008 2:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Columnist Tkopa
Alright Tkopa, looks like you have finally arrived. Congrats! My only suggestion to you is that you need a picture icon. River City has a cool pic, silencecs has a very nice pic of what I assume to be he and his lovely girlfriend or wife, and FSBlue has… well, I’m not really sure what that is, but it’s an interesting icon picture non the less. Good luck Tkopa, I look forward to your front page contributions.
by jagsfanbrunell on Dec 8, 2008 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks... she is pretty cute huh? :)
by silencecs on Dec 8, 2008 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats on the recent marriage Terry!
Great First post too… You are setting the bar awfully high… :0)
by silencecs on Dec 8, 2008 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why so serious about the avatars? ;) I mean, I know its *awesome*
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks
by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 8, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I followed Silences lead
and posted my picture icon.
by Tkopa on Dec 8, 2008 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please explain to me
How exactly would Brian Billick improve this team?
Would he improve our offense?
(the Ravens ranked 24th, 16th, 14th, 26th, 21st, 31st, 24th, 17th, and 22nd in total offense in Billick’s nine years as head coach)
Would he not trade away draft picks to move up to make questionable drafting decisions?
(trading up to get Kyle Boller in 2003)
Would he stay away from making questionable free agency signings?
(Steve McNair, who had one decent regular season in 2006, melted down in the playoffs, and then was never good again?)
Would he avoid losing to horrible teams like the Bengals this year?
(the only win the 1-15 Dolphins got last year was against Billick’s Ravens)
Also, congrats to Tkopa. I’ve been lurking around here for a while without having an account, and I’ve always enjoyed what you write.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 8, 2008 2:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know
That Steve McNair wasn’t technically a free agent, but the Titans weren’t going to be able to keep him. And if anything, the fact that the Ravens gave away a draft pick in the trade makes it worse.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 8, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right about Billick... I don't want him. I'd take Marty Schottenheimer though. He plays my kind of ball.
Jack will not be leaving though… James “HACK” Harris has got to go. I’ve done a 180 on this cat in the last three weeks. Our team is not good… bottom line. Plus we spent like sailors in the offseason and got nothing for it.
SPOON was starting over FLorence!!! What a waste of money that guy is. I woulda taken Lito sheppard for a 2nd rounder over spending what we did on Florence… And I think Lito is over-rated too.
Draft DB’s and O-Linemen. Plus at least one big QUALITY DT would do wonders for us. We’ll have a top 10 pick, and I wouldn’t have a problem with using it. People say trade it, but I say make sure you get a Star O-linemen. If you have to use a top 10 pick to do so, then do it. Just make sure you get it right!!! We need a starter from day one, that’s a fact!
by silencecs on Dec 8, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It has been really funny watching your about face on Shack
by Tkopa on Dec 8, 2008 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When I started defending him, we still only had 6 losses, and the team seemed to be halfway decent.
The utter collapse of the squad the last 3 weeks has led me to finally believe that unless we make some drastic changes, we won’t make the playoffs next year either. Shack has to go. His free agents have been so very unproductive it’s not even laughable. When I heard that Spoon was starting over florence, I lost it. That tells the whole story. The guy sucks, and Shack paid him like he was a probowl player.
These last three weeks have made me think that maybe it isn’t just missing all the breaks, and maybe it’s actually the fact that we aren’t any good.
-Collin
by silencecs on Dec 8, 2008 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't blame the disappointing season on the hype
But I blame the last few games on the preseason expectations. They were so highly touted and they fell so far that it just broke them. If no high expectations were thrown on the team they would at least be playing these last games hard. For that reason I don’t think the results we see in the final games of the season are something to be factored in to the firing of someone. By the way, them throwing the rest of their games away because of lack of heart is disappointing, but it happens in all sports to every team that can’t live up to hype.
by SoCalStites on Dec 8, 2008 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you make a good point, however, I was just hoping that Porter and Florence would start to show...
Some of what Shack saw that made him give them such a large amount of money.
The last game, Porter got hurt again (groin) and Florence was a nickel back behind Spoon and B.Dub. There really is no excuse for that. None whatsoever. I’m still pleased with Shack’s ability in the draft, but not Free Agency, and you have to execute in all aspects if you’re gonna be a contender. We didn’t make a run at Randy Moss, and he doesn’t make much more than Porter does… Just ridiculous… I really like gene smith and wouldn’t have a problem with him being promoted to GM at all. He’s been our top college evaluator, and that means he’s always been a part of the draft. With Shack gone and Gene in place, we’d still have the same draft mentality, which is what I want to keep, but the Free Agency missteps have got to stop… and there’s no sign they would with Shack staying in charge.
by silencecs on Dec 8, 2008 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When you compare what HACK
has done with picks / trades with what the Ravens did (4 picks = 3 on team, including 2 starters), oooouuch. That’s pretty lousy use of assets in my book.
by OGN on Dec 8, 2008 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind his draft moves all that much.
We can judge that in a year or two… but his free agents, they take NO developmental time and should’ve come right in and started banging out points and picking off passes… that hasn’t happened and it seems to me that he never scores in free agency. Time to go Hack.
Promote Gene Smith to GM…
by silencecs on Dec 8, 2008 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I went nuts when
they made the Porter deal. Other than a couple of good years playing opposite of Randy Moss, that guy hasn’t done a whole lot. I figure I can go a loaf my routes and drop passes just as good as that guy AND I’d only charge Weaver $20 M for the privledge – NOW that’s a bargain!!!!
by OGN on Dec 8, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll agree with you there
I was happy the Jaguars signed someone who appeared to be a field stretcher, but with the money he got paid it seemed like the organization thought he was an all star. A lot of the fans got that impression too.
by SoCalStites on Dec 8, 2008 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You cracking under finals Collin? Marty ball?!?!?!?! Really?
Though I agree on Florence. It’s a toss up between him and Bryce Paup as the biggest waste of cash the Jaguars have signed.
The O-line is priority number 1 in the offseason. Figure out who is damaged goods and who can come back. The way the schedule looks, we won’t even need to hope for one of the main LT’s to fall to us. Last time we used a first rounder on a tackle turned out pretty well.
BJ Raiji out of Boston College is the only “Monster in the middle” kind of DT this year
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks
by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 8, 2008 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don't like Marty ball
He just simply cannot succeed in situations where teams take away the run. He’s a run the ball, stop the run guy who doesn’t know what to do when teams load the box.
by SoCalStites on Dec 8, 2008 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet the Chargers would settle for Marty ball right now
Which is why I’m usually against firing coaches. It’s usually pretty easy to find someone worse.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 8, 2008 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Norv did manage to win a playoff game, something Marty never managed despite having the best player in the NFL
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks
by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 8, 2008 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Marty was HC in Cleveland and Cowher was his special teams guy
Cowher would run down the sidelines on kickoffs and punts and any of his players he out ran were in trouble.
Marty hired Lindy Infante as OC and Bernie Kosar put up a ton of passing yards. Marty knows the value of a good run and pass blocking line. He knows the passing game.
Actually, Marty would make a great DC.
by Tkopa on Dec 8, 2008 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Spoon didn't start
over Flo. Flo just took the harder NB position in the nickel packages leaving Spoon to man the CB position.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 9, 2008 3:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure
that Billick deserves credit for a lot of the Raven’s front office moves, but Ozzie Newsome and the Ravens have always drafted well in the first round (Chris McAllister, Jamal Lewis, Ed Reed, Todd Heap, Terrell Suggs, etc.). Er, minus Jamal Lewis, who despite owning a 2,000+ yard season, thought it’d be sweet to make a little extra dough on the side… sniff-sniff-sniiiiiiiiiff… dealing coke. Anyway, the bottom line is that Jack’s not likely to be leaving us this offseason, and I’m ok with that for now. I’d just like to see more consistency from season-to-season.
by car-ramrod on Dec 8, 2008 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll say it before and I'll say it again
What has always bothered me about this team during the Del Rio era is that we are always a rollercoaster that has taken success and ran with it.
-Follow up the huge win in Green Bay by getting shut out at home by Houston in a game that could have sent us to the playoffs
-Follow up that 41-16 beat down of Indy with 3 straight losses to keep us out of the playoffs
-This season as a whole when compared to last year
I saw enough to think this team hasn’t quit, which is positive.
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks
by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 8, 2008 3:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That has NEVER taken success and ran with it*
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 8, 2008 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How bout MJD's run
That was straight up redunkulous. Sheds Urlacher then pinballs off three other defenders on his way to a first down.
As far as draft goes, I really like the DT from Duke that was posted last week. If he’s available in 2nd round, I dont know but definitely 3rd if he’s there. I also really like the OT from Virginia that FSBLUE posted. I would like it if we stayed in the top ten and got him.
Nice scouting posts FSBLUE.
What are your guys thoughts on Monroe and Vince O.?
by harveyismyboy on Dec 8, 2008 5:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Monroe I'm really high on
Virginia is quickly becoming LT U with Ferguson and Alberts in the last few years. Monroe was the reason Albert’s didn’t play LT at Virginia. However, that Scouting Report was done with me figuring we would be drafting in the 10-15 range and needing him to fall. Now I think we’ll be in the top 8 and could grab Andre Smith from Alabama, who I think is THE top tackle in the draft.
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks
by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 8, 2008 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tkopa--No Surprise there!
Gotta join the crowd and congratulate Tkopa. I’ve commented before about how his insight is always on the money. And I agree with the points he made in this column. Jack needs to keep a healthy attitude and learn from his mistakes. But he needs a fresh start. He has let things go too far in Jacksonville. We do need to identify some core players who play to win and build a team around them. And that’s why Shack has to go too. Fred Taylor has always been the quiet guy who always got it done. Now he’s calling this team the worst he’s ever played on. As soon as that was said, I knew he didn’t mean the team wasn’t talented. He was talking about attitude and discipilne. Our team is going through the motions right now—they are definitely not playing every down. But you guys tell me—who do we have that can be that core? I really like Jack Del Rio and think he’s done a great job as a rookie coach. But the further we got away from the Coughlin era, the more the character issues started to surface. Someone needs to come in and clean house. And Jack can take his hard learned lessons, forget his rookie mistakes, and be an even better coach somewhere else. If anyone doesn’t think Tom Coughlin didn’t adjust his coaching style when he left, you haven’t watched the Giants’ organization. But it started well. Jack’s early teams played hard, smash mouth football. But that started too erode over time. I flew for quite a few years in the Marines and have seen some really great leaders. But their can come a point when you lose respect or control (or both) and you just can’t get it back. Jack’s there. It’s time to move on with valuable experience and lessons learned. He can still be a very good NFL coach—but not in Jacksonville.
by JAGS1995 on Dec 12, 2008 12:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think you're misinterpreting Fred
When he said that this team is the worst he’s ever played on I don’t think that had to do with attitude or talent. The secondary we have is and attack team that keeps everything in front of them, but the defensive line isn’t good enough to give them the chance to attack. The running backs are very talented but the offensive line isn’t strong enough to block for them. David Garrard is a great quarterback who has no receivers getting open for him so he can’t make the throw. There’s just too much contrast between certain groups on the team that has led to a bad mix. There’s talent, but none of the talent have been able to show what they can do at the highest level.
by SoCalStites on Dec 12, 2008 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You may be right...
I certainly don’t know what Fred’s thinking. But he’s been on bad Jags’ teams before and never said anything. I do agree that we just don’t have the right mix of talent. Your comments about the O-line and D-line are definitely true. But I’m still concerned about the team’s attitude. Jack went 5-11 his first season but the team played hard, and we were in almost every game. This year it looks like we’ve given up. Please don’t get me wrong, I think Jack Del Rio has done a very good job. But his departure may speed his own development just as much as the team’s. I’ve posted before that next year could be a huge turnaround. We’ll get healthy and our dedicated players will step up. But is Jack the guy to lead this turnaround? A new coach may be able to impact the turnaround even more. I may be way off base here. That’s why this site is a lot of fun. I enjoy all the different perspectives of Jaguars’ fans that know their team—and their football.
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