A Conversation with Jacksonville Jaguars Editor-in-Chief Vic Ketchman: Part One
A Conversation with Vic Ketchman: Part One
I was fortunate enough to talk to Jaguars.com Editor-in-Chief and leader of the Ask Vic Community Vic Ketchman in a long conversation. Vic and I discuss everything from the end of the Byron Leftwich era to the expectations for the 2008 Jacksonville Jaguars. Vic, if you're not familiar, can be read every day at Jaguars.com. This is part one of three of our chat.
Chris: What are your thoughts on the hyper-intense coverage of OTA's and Minicamp? Do you think it the scrutiny over what are in essence underwear practices become harmful?
Vic: It's a matter of keeping it in perspective. Achieving perspective makes it all worth while. Achieving perspective is the important thing. I don't think that the coverage is nearly as important as the reading of the coverage because there's just not a lot to write. The spring practice season is, other than if a news event occurs (someone gets hurt, a particular news issue that can be featured such as a change in offensive philosophy, a change in the quarterback position), other than for real news items such as that, it's a benign reporting time. The onus is on the reader to make sure that he, in my opinion, reads the information for what it's worth instead of trying to read into the information. You're just not going to get depth chart decisions, you're just not going to get long term impact from what happens in the spring practices.
We saw that a year ago. All of the 2007 spring OTA's were dedicated to the reestablishment of Byron Leftwich as the teams starting quarterback. All of the 2007 OTA's were dedicated to Dirk Koetter reclaiming Byron Leftwich's career. By the end of the preseason, he was gone. Whatever happened in the OTA's period, as it related to Byron Leftwich was meaningless. That's the critical thing, keep it in perspective. The reader has to keep spring in perspective.
Chris: The Byron Leftwich situation: Was that one of the more surprising events you've covered with a team?
Vic: You know, I don't want this to sound self-serving in any way, but the answer is no, and here's why. We, and when I say we I mean the sports writers that cover the team, were given several little hints and indications along the way, going all the way back to the end of OTA's in 07. We were given several little nudges that should have let us know that this wasn't written in stone.
Hint number one was Jack Del Rio's voluntary admission of interest in Daunte Culpepper. The moment he voluntary expressed his interest in Daunte Culpepper, and the operative word is voluntary, you had to know. You had to be really thick not to know that this wasn't a done deal. At that point in OTA's, there was like a week left, it wasn't going well. When the coach comes out and expresses in a quarterback, another quarterback in the league, that's a very strong indicator that the coach is not satisfied
That was one indication. Then we came forward into training camp and at about the one week mark David Garrard started throwing the ball like Sammy Baugh. Coaches, People started saying little things. I would have a coach say this to me or say that to me, that's the way it's supposed to be. Sportswriters are supposed to be on the inside and they're supposed to have relationships with people in the know and in the decision making arena, and they tend to try and help the writers understand that something is happening, in case you missed it. I didn't miss it because you had to be blind to miss this one. It was so completely out in front that you had to be absolutely blind not to see. I don't want to say that, I don't want to offend people who are sight challenged. You had to turn your head not to see what was happening. The guy was throwing the ball, as I said, like Sammy Baugh and when he carried that into the preseason and did it over and over and over, there was no question in my mind that there was an issue involved and nothing was written in stone.
I can say that will all confidence because if you go back and find a tape of the pregame radio show that brian, jeff and I did for the game in Green Bay, what you'll hear me say is that in my opinion, Byron Leftwich was facing a crossroads game, was facing a critical game as far as his future with the team. I don't think I came out and said it, that his career was on the line, but I was sending every possible hint I could in this pregame radio show that he was under the microscope that night. When it went as bad as it did for him that night, there was no doubt in my mind what was going to happen. Guys making his salary, guys in his position don't go to the bench, they get cut.
What happened there, it shouldn't have been as dramatic as it seemed. It should have been something that we saw coming.
Chris: I remember being a fan and a writer during the end of the Leftwich era and treating all the obvious signs as something other than the end of Byron. The Cullpepper announcement was Jack sending a message, nothing more. I fell into a delusion that Byron was the guy and no matter what I saw, myself and a lot of other people wouldn't process what our eyes saw with our brains. Hindsight, of course, is 20-20, but for every obvious sign, I'll admit to a big sense of denial.
Vic: Chris, I was harshly criticized for telling people there was a quarterback competition, for suggesting that Byron's status with the team wasn't written in stone. I wanted people to know the truth.
Chris: I can only imagine the deep-seated nastiness you received in the Ask Vic mailbox for implying that Byron was on the outs and David was coming in.
Vic: Oh yeah, the Byron versus David thing was a hot potato, there was a firestorm of opinion, both ways. Immediately I was perceived as coming over to the David Garrard camp. I was only in one camp, the camp of the truth. Of respecting my readers enough to provide them with the truth. It was more obvious than anything I've ever covered. It was written on the practice field on training camp, it was written on the faces of the coaches, it was etched on their lips, it was muttered in the hallways. There was no question that there was an issue at quarterback, and the issue was very clearly David Garrard's blockbuster performance in preseason games and on the practice field versus Byron Leftwiche's less than satisfactory performance. There's really no other way to put it. I just wanted people to know what was going on because I was sure of my information.
Chris: Not to jump topics too quickly, but I've got a tongue-in-cheek question from Collin: He, and all our readers would like to know more about your relationship with Mr. Snoop Dogg.
Vic: Ha ha, You're really not going to ask me that question.
Part Two: Expectations for the Jaguars! To be Continued!
-Chris
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I admire vic for his knowledge of football, and the way he speaks. I can’t wait to hear the second part of the interview.
by Joeyy89 on Jul 2, 2008 6:27 AM EDT 0 recs
Nice Job
Chris,
You really got him to open up, or maybe he just likes to talk, but you hit on great subjects. Thanks.
by Tkopa on Jul 2, 2008 7:55 AM EDT 0 recs
$$$
Did you ask him if I could have a job there? The HR lady is probably going nuts with me emailing her every month!
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by cuffs007 on Jul 2, 2008 3:10 PM EDT 0 recs
Leftwich vs Garrard Controversy
I think to some degree the controversy can be contributed to a guy named FBT on the Jags message board who writes camp reports, who continually reported that Leftwich was looking great, while Garrard was struggling. So that resulted especially for fans who have to work or are out of town that are unable to attend practices to see what is actually going on with each player, to believe that Leftwich and not Garrard was having a great camp. Yet when you read what Vic was reporting, it was the opposite. I personally have no qualms with Vic, and I certainly will go by what Vic is reporting much more so than some guy on a message board who has a history of petty 3rd grade arguments with other message board fans. Unfortunately there are for some reason fans who rather believe FBT than a paid professional who has covered than NFL for over 25 years, and rather label Vic as a biased supporter of Garrard, or a Leftwich hater.
I am so glad we have such a quality reporter with integrity who cover the Jags, in Vic Ketchman. The guy is giving you this long interview because he loves the game, and wants to help out a fellow writer such as you Chris. It just shows you what kind of guy Vic is. If your reading this Vic, I want to personally thank you for all the great work you do, and that I appreciate all that you must have to put up with, to give the fans all the great info you provide while being HONEST and UNBIASED !
by NASF on Jul 2, 2008 4:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Vic Ketchman is another reason......
that the Jags are a successful franchise on the way up. But the real reason I wrote is off the subject, but I feel a need to say “Please Mr. Favre, go away and stay away. If I have to listen to one more story about this ego maniac, who for some reason feels a need to play this same game of “maybe I will, maybe I won’t”, holding his team hostage once again. He WAS a great qb but those days are gone. I guess he still has some weapons but they seem to be causing more collaterial damage for his own team. I may be in the minority, but I find Favre’s behavior and actions over the past few years, classless and selfish. How else can you describe his announcement a few months ago that he would consider coming back if Aaron Rodgers was to get hurt, thus creating a negative mindset of Packer fans pulling for that injury to happen. And how about when they drafted Rodgers, Favre came out and said he was his competition for a job and not to expect any veteran help from him. Once again I ask “Please Mr. Favre, go away for good”. I’m sure if he stays retired, John Madden will eventually get over it and be able to talk about someone else.
by Jaggernaut on Jul 2, 2008 8:25 PM EDT 0 recs
Controversy on my shoulders? Sorry, but no.
As much as I appreciate the sentiment that I was the evil genius behind the entire quarterback controversy, I think it’s pretty clear that this wasn’t the reality at all. My reporting on training camp was supported by several other people that also attended these practice sessions and wrote the same things that I did about the performances of both quarterbacks.
The quarterback controversy was born LONG before I wrote the first camp report where Leftwich was involved. It started the day he was drafted.
Byron was unpopular with a certain segment of the fan base that resented him simply because he was obviously drafted to replace an icon here in Jacksonville. So, for those people, he was to blame for Mark Brunell ultimately being traded even though Byron had about as much to do with who drafted him as you or I.
When he did eventually replace Mark, he was hated for that.
When his style of play didn’t match what we saw from Mark Brunell, he was hated for not being mobile and for being a pocket passer with a long release.
When that argument was exhausted, people went after things like the way he spoke, the lack of urgency they perceived when he was on the field, or the way he buckled his chin straps. The list of excuses for why people couldn’t stand Byron Leftwich was an ever-evolving littany that saw no end. Ultimately, the mindset shifted to “Anyone but Byron” for this group of fans, and that continued right up to the bitter end.
Unfortunately, a few key facts were always ignored by this faction of fans that actually DID create the QB controversy.
First, as a starting QB, Byron had a winning record, and it was a solid track record that most quarterbacks would be happy to stand upon.
Second, when Byron was drafted (and he was projected to be a top 10 pick in the draft, so there was clearly a reason that we selected him), the new coaching staff that Del Rio had put together included an offensive coordinator who was a disciple of the West Coast Offense, which was CLEARLY not the type of offense that you’d utilize with a classic pocket passing QB. The fact that he had the second most prolific rookie season for a QB in NFL history (at that time) behind only Dan Marino was completely ignored by the people that hated Byron for what he represented in their minds.
Up until VERY LATE in training camp last year, Byron was STILL the best QB on the roster. David Garrard struggled throughout spring and summer practices, and those struggles DID continue into training camp. Even all-knowing paid professional, Vic Ketchman has confirmed this.
It wasn’t until the second week of training camp that David Garrard started to put things together and his game started to elevate. Prior to that, he was still struggling to gain any sort of consistency with his accuracy, which was something that had plagued him from the start of his career here. Again, Vic has confirmed this by his reporting as well.
Never in my camp reports did I ever refer to Byron Leftwich as looking great out there. What I DID document was that he was better than David Garrard, Quinn Gray, and the host of camp arms that were brought in while he was still here.
What I DID document was the fact that he had clearly improved in the area of his footwork in training camp last year. During the first two weeks of camp, it was obvious that he had been coached heavily in that area, and it showed. He was never going to be a mobile QB, but he had made strides to shorten his drops and at least somewhat speed up his release. He was holding the ball higher and not going to the windup nearly as often when he was delivering a pass. Unfortunately, when he got into game situations in the preseason, he reverted to his old ways, and that was a real problem.
Ultimately, the downfall of Byron Leftwich was a combination of things including his own unwillingness to make significant changes to his game, coupled with the fact that he remained supremely confident in his own abilities despite the fact that he was obviously struggling.
As much as I’d love to be the person that at least partially helped to birth the QB controversy, I simply can’t take any credit for that. Byron was always a better QB than he was portrayed to be here in Jacksonville. He struggled with gaining support from the fan base for reasons that were almost completely out of his control, and the one area where he could have made a difference, he didn’t work hard enough to address them.
As anyone who’s been to training camp knows, it doesn’t require a rocket scientist to be in a position to figure out if a QB is doing well or if he’s not doing well. If a QB is repeatedly missing the mark, struggling with his accuracy, it’s as obvious as the nose on your face. I simply documented what I was seeing. If you’ve been at a camp session with me, you’d understand just how balanced and fair my comments are, especially when you look at the notes that are taken on each play during the practice sessions.
by FBT on Jul 8, 2008 1:17 PM EDT 0 recs
Your camp reports are good stuff
I had missed some of the later comments in this thread, so pardon my late entrance.
While I’d love to see one writer have that much power, the Byron situation with the fans is just as FBT describes. He was never accepted on day one and nothing the coaches, Byron or his supporters would do could change that.
Don’t change a thing FBT. Your reports are top shelf. We all look forward to seeing them again in a few weeks!
-C
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Jul 8, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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