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Jaguars Preseason Recap: Week 2 = Awful

Watching the game last night was a terrifying and concerning event for me.  The cognative dissonance of watching the Miami Dolphins look like playoff contenders and the Jaguars look like bottom feeders despite knowing that this team is better than it looks really ruined my night.  That and the eight minutes of "technical difficulties" that the local Orlando broadcast went through in the second quarter.

The Jaguars were awful and they were worse than awful with their starters than anything else.  The passing game was rough, to say the least, with Mike Walker still dropping passes and Troy Williamson accumulating a whopping zero catches.  There was a play when Troy was sent deep, but he did not blow away the coverage and the pass fell incomplete.  Ryan Hoag was our leading receiver, with a 53 yard catch.  You might recall that the Jaguars did an awful lot to improve the recieving corps, yet two weeks into preseason and Ryan Hoag is outperforming everyone else?

But despite all the offensive miscues, the fumble, the missed pass to Mike Walker, nothing scares me more then the unmitigated disaster I saw on defense.  Typically it's considered a bad sign when defensive backs lead the defense in tackles.  When Rashean Mathis makes more tackles than Mike Peterson (5 to 3), you know that there's a problem.

Quentin Groves is learning that his speed is a liability in stopping the run, as he failed to have any sort of real effect on the field.  The rest of the defensive line was a mess, making Chad Pennington look like a real quarterback and even allowing two nine yeard scrambles.  There was no push, no speed, no emotion, it was watching professional athletes go through the motions.  I can only imagine what Gregg Williams is feeling right now as he breaks down film and realizes just how fundamentally awful they played. 

This team is at what can only be the lowest of low points.  The offense is out of synch to a huge degree, partially because the receivers are decimated by injury.  The offensive line is not performing like the powerhouse of last season, again because of injury.  If it's always darkest before the dawn, than I've never seen anything more black and bleak than this game.

Even the bright spot, a nice return game with Brian Witherspoon, is now a problem, as he's suffered from a sprained ankle, one he described as "real bad". 

Enter the Teaching Moment:

I'm sure everyone has used something bad as a point of reference toward making something good.  It's refered to as a teaching moment, a point where a leader can utilize bad results as a chance to correct future behavior.  Sometimes a bad game is just a bad game, they'll look at the film and correct a thing or two and it's not a problem.  A game like last night's debacle is not that type of bad game.  It must be made into an example to the entire team.  It must be driven into their heads that they are not a hyped theam that's playoff bound.  They made the Miami Dolphins look good, and that's disgustingly bad on the Jaguars part. 

This game, this film, this whole encounter with the Dolphins must serve as a teaching moment.  Jack Del Rio has to turn this into a moment where the team comes together and moves on, because if the team of last night is the team of 2008 we'll be thinking about the draft in December, not the Playoffs.

-Chris

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Chris -

I was at the game. On the Williamson play, it looked to me like he had his man beat and then lost track of the ball and slowed down. If he had kept running, he should have caught it for a score. (Did anyone else see it this way?)

I was watching Quentin Groves and he was literally thrown to the ground on several plays like a rag doll. Quentin does not seem ready at all for anything more than situational downs.

Another player on defense who seemed off was Rashean. He was playing too far off the wide out and kept getting beat. The reason he had so many tackles is his wide out kept catching the ball. This is a very bad sign for the regular season if he does not revert back to the Rashean of 2006.

I know there were worries from national pundits about Drayton Florence, but he seemed to have a solid game and hit a defender hard on a running play that came his side.

My overall thoughts were the offense had timing issues – and these can be corrected in the next few weeks.

But, I am very worried on the defensive side of the ball due to the lack of pass rush and line penetration – and worse – coverage issues.

Steve

by sejaguar on Aug 17, 2008 10:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was there and focused on Quentin Groves too

He clearly needs a lot of work. He looked winded and tired as the second quarter wore on. Early on he pushed hard but got no where and then began to be tossed around. I saw guys give him a good shove and he went flying out of the play. They now have good film on him and he is a development project. Clearly strength and conditioning are an issue.

On the Williamson play you refer to, are you sure it wasn’t Mike Walker? Was it the fourth down fake go deep play? I only saw Troy in there for maybe 5 plays.

Chauncy Washington is also not an NFL running back to be feared. There is no ability to break a tackle. Maurice Jones Drew breaks almost every tackle until they pile on. Chauncy goes down easily.

Matt Jones showed nothing more than Matt Jones. Thee is no real jump in ability here. The only difference is he is using two hands instead of one.

Kahlif Barnes is a liability. David spent his time getting up off the ground. I don’t think his confidence in his line and his receivers is there this year. He looks like he is all alone out there.

Mike Peterson looks like he is not in the last year of his contract but his last year in football. Where was he?

Finally why is running up the middle so possible against us? Where is John Henderson? I saw someone wearing his uniform last night, but I didn’t see him.

Overall, this looked like the first home game of last year when the Jaguars looked tired and confused. I am beginning to wonder about our Defensive coaching. Mike Smith might have been much better than we ever knew.

by Tkopa on Aug 17, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

Okay everyone… remember the important thing here is not to panic!

Joking aside, this rush defense has been a slight concern of mine. I too was without the television. Relying on the LB’s to stop the run can be a little tricky and will likely give up yards we don’t want to lose. It could possibly be the return of the bend – don’t break defense. I hope Greg Williams is holding aces.

by Jaghomer on Aug 17, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

If he had kept running, he should have caught it for a score. (Did anyone else see it this way?)”

I don’t know if he lost track of the ball or thought he was too far down the field but it clearly looked like he was slowing down when David released the ball. You would think with the top guys out, the timing would be better with some of these other guys.

I still say once they get back to their identity of run first, they’ll be fine. I hope they start next weeks game as if it were a real game.

by pksiv on Aug 18, 2008 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I said before, its Preseason. Perhaps all the talk of being a Super Bowl contender and dethroning the Colts went to their heads abit. We should still be fine though.

-John

by FSBlueApocalypse on Aug 17, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its time

Its time to get Harvey into camp.

by JagSoldier on Aug 17, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Distressing

I didn’t watch the game (ESPN doesn’t show many Jags games), but I stayed up until 1:30am my time to listen to the game on Field Pass. Things that concerned me greatly:

- the O-line were playing like they wanted the QB to get hit, hard and often.

- no running game at all (take away a few QB scrambles and how many rushing yards did we total?)

- even with 8 in the box from the Dolphins, we couldn’t get any decent passing game going

- no pass rush at all, the Dolphins QBs could practically make a cup of coffee while waiting for someone to get open

- no pass coverage (although the lack of a pass rush certainly doesn’t help)

- no ability to stop the run. It’s a little disconcerting seeing the Jag’s D give up big running plays, play after play after play.

- rubbish tackling

I don’t know quite what to make of it. Either the team just had a really bad day, or both our O-line and D-line are going to struggle so much this year that we will be lucky to win any games. I’m obviously hoping that this was one big giant “mental mistake” from the team as a whole.

by KeithG on Aug 17, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Spice said something

Paul Spicer said something in the mid game interview that made me think. He said these guys need to treat this like a real game, there are guys out there fighting for a spot. Basically saying the whole team had taken last night off.

Maybe it’s wishful thinking…. but I don’t mind being positive :-l

by Pyrofish on Aug 17, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't push the panic button...

It’s still the pre-season. Still missing a few key players that will be there for the start of the season. Garrard will get back to form before then. He is a great professional player. Let’s see what next week has to offer before we get to excited.

by jagsfanbrunell on Aug 17, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree, no reason to over react..

this is probably a good thing to happen in the second preseason game. Maybe the team has been reading all the predictions of the Jags being Super Bowl contenders. I say with the coaching staff we have and the veteran leadership, this was just a blip and nothing to worry about. Preseason is just that, preseason.

by Jaggernaut on Aug 17, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont care if they lose all the pre-season games. doesnt count anyhow. a few top teams barely win any of their’s and they do fine year after year. the one thing i really didnt like was the seemingly lackadaisical attitude on the field.

Sean Jax Beach Bum

by cuffs007 on Aug 17, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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