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“All I really want is a market deal,” “I’m just waiting,” Harvey said. “I’m loyal to the Jaguars.”
“We’re hoping to get a resolution,” Kremer said.

I got your resolution, stop being a leach and talk realistic numbers. I mean come on, ‘somewhere between 10% and 75% is reasonable. What kind of idiot are you.

Harvey, dude look up the word ’ loyal ’, trust me you don’t know what it means.

Groves in in camp for just over 3 million. Do you really think you’re that much better than Groves…..I mean I’ve seen you both play. Try that for market value.

Walk away from him. Save the money to sign real players. I don’t like this agent and now I don’t like Derrick Harvey. Sit him out, wait him out, turn him out. Just move on without him.

why does everyone think he should sign for amounts lower than the picks after him? it seems like the big issue is whether he should get 18 or 18.5 million guaranteed. these are complex contracts and take time. it’ll work itself out.

“Another bone of contention between the sides is that one of Harvey’s incentive clauses would be tied to 80 percent playing time, which is more than any Jaguars defensive end has been on the field in the past three years because the team rotates its linemen”

Does anyone else think this would be a ridiculous thing for Harvey to agree to?

I agree that the money being asked for is outragaeous, but maybe there are two sides to this. It is also worth remembering that Harvey didn’t ask the Jags to draft him at 8. There are monetary consequences to taking top draft picks, crazy though they are. I’m just amazed more of the veterans aren’t a bit pissed at how “little” they are paid compared to all the top draft picks this year.

Like I posted about Harvery waaaaayyyy back when we first drafted him…he doesnt want to be here…if he did hed take a deal as he is unproven…look at Garrard..he took less than he couldve gotten because why? He is all about the team…period.. I think the signs were always there from the beginning and he is begining to prove the naysayers wrong.

Groves will be the man in J-ville…peterson’s heir apparent…mark my words AGAIN!

It is a sign of deperation. He is looking for someone to help him in the negotiations. He is not winning and does not have a winning hand. It is a bluff and the Jags are calling it.

I am proud of our organization.

Jaguars MLB Mike Peterson says he’s playing angry because the team hasn’t tried to extend his contract.

Peterson considered holding out, but opted to let his play do the talking. He is in a contract year. “I get chills just thinking about it,” he said. “That’s why I’m so angry. I go out there and play, and I’m mad. When I come off the field, I’m angry. I want to continue here. I want to retire here.”

Does anyone know what offers are being submitted and rejected? Before we target either side as the problem we need to be sure that we’re not making up a scenario and then attacking Harvey…straw man.

To state that Harvey doesn’t want to be here because he won’t sign the contract is ludicrous. Does Fan like Garrard more because he didn’t play the “hold out” card? Sure. Garrard is also older, wiser, married with child and a different person than Harvey. I have no idea what Harvey’s situation is but you can’t take the hold out as an indication of the kid’s desire to play, ability to play or overall character. Is Fan willing to make that a universal condition of one who holds out? If that is the case then all players who hold out don’t want to play for their team and aren’t really that good.

This is a business deal where someone is trying to maximize earnings with their employer. The employer is looking out for the best interest of the company. Both are working within a flawed system. I’ve never understood the need for Fan to make this a good guy\bad guy situation.

Agreed Tkopa, agreed. I’m trying to see both sides of the story, and I can see both points of view.

If the team doesn’t need him, why did they trade away so much to get him? If you are going to actively seek out a #8 (remember, the Jags CHOSE to take him at this position, and traded away a fair bit to get him), you presumably think he is gonna make a difference to your team. Otherwise, your FO needs firing. Why do this if you don’t need him as a player?

On the other hand… as you say, the amount is just silly. There is NO way I’d personally pay him more than MJD alone, let alone him and a whole bunch of others combined. But… do you expect a #8 draft pick to stand up in today’s setup and say “hey, I’m not actually worth that much… pay me less, please”. Again, he didn’t create the system or the payment structures.

As a Jags fan, I hope they get it fixed because I believe Harvey can make a difference for us over the years. At the same time, the thought of paying him so much when he is unproven turns my stomach. The system is broken, it needs fixing. It’s not Harvey’s fault, and taking it out on him individually is unfair on the player.

I agree…
The longer Harvey holds out the more he’s going to hurt himself. No other team can sign him untill next year. If he doesn’t sign, he’s gonna have to figure out a new way to make money while he waits. I really hope Harvey can sign for a reasonable amount, because there is no reason for the Jags to give in. We don’t need another DE, we just want one.

The Jags will win this match, because they hold all the cards.

If Harvey were smart, he’d have his agent take the lesser money guaranteed in return for only a 2 year deal. That way if he really is that good, in2 years he could say “Mo’ Money or I’m outa’ here!” Derrick , there is more than one way to skin a cat… uhh, I mean a colt.

Derrick is a good college football player but he has not proven a thing in the NFL till he does he is just another good college football player . His money will come maybe not in this contract but his next one

Wow… I gotta hand it to the front office, Kremer, Harvey. I was steaming, jumping all over that “hate Harvey” band wagon, but like the gangstas say, ” it ain’t personal, it’s business”.
Actually I am relieved that the Jags front office is not that stupid when it comes to the finances of the team (just call us the Dallas Doughboys). Poor Harvey is the only sap to loose in this stand-off if you think 4-5 mill is losing. Ah, to be young and stupid again.