Quick Bytes: Monday Morning means Money edition

by River City Rage on Aug 4, 2008 8:00 AM EDT in Quick Bytes Comment 9 comments

Quick Bytes: The daily digest of everything you need to know about the Jacksonville Jaguars (and other things).

Holy Smokes, how things change in a week. First off, hats off to all the great fanposts and comments happening on the site recently. I love it. I apologize for my relative absence, I was on an extended family vacation and was distracted by beaches, sunshine, and fresh seafood. It won't happen again.

Now I can tell you that your humble narrator (me) is moving to Florida in a few days. Because of that, things might be hectic here for just a little while longer. But have no fear, Big Cat Country is going through it's usual preseason bumps, and we'll be in season form in no time.

On to the stories!

: Mike Peterson is the only Jaguar of note that is playing on the last year of his contract. He's angry about it, but in all the right ways:

After a big play during a training camp practice last week, Peterson reportedly screamed as he left the field, "I hope somebody's watching the film."

If Mike Peterson stays healthy and dominates the game like he has shown in the past, then by all means pay him a big fat contract. He's an emotional leader on the field and deserves to be rewarded. That said, if Mike Peterson spends the end of another season on the sideline due to an injury, I'd be hard pressed to stroke a big check with the talent that's behind him. The Jaguars have four outstanding linebackers, in 2009, Mike might be the odd man out.

: Matt Jones is doing very well. It's a good thing, because his future is on the line. Have you ever seen a player have so much good luck after such a terrible smear on his career? A month ago we were assuming he was the longest of long shots, now he's almost untouchable due to the injuries at receiver.

: Uh oh, the hype is growing. New Jersey is on to the Jaguars as a Super Bowl Contender...

: The Cincinnati Bengals are not very happy with the Jaguars right now, Keith Rivers isn't signing until the slotting process is completed by Derrick Harvey.

: Is Fred Taylor a Hall of Famer? Pete Prisco thinks he could be there. Big Cat Country firmly believes that there is a trip to Canton in the future for Fred. Remember, only Jim Brown and Barry Sanders have rushed for more yards per carry. Fred's in, in my opinion, if he can get another 1500 or so yards over the next two seasons, that or a dramatic playoff performance/Super Bowl.

Misc.

We've got some big stories in the works. Derrick Harvey will be addressed, some roster predictions, some training camp news, and of course, more of FBT's fantastic practice reports.

Stay Tuned!

-Chris

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Glad you are back Chris

Derrick Harvey was beautifully addressed by Jack Del Rio this morning on David Lamb’s show. To paraphrase the comment “Derrick Who?” “I coach football players, the ones on the field, we have moved on”. He said the organization was adament about their position and so was Derrick Harvey and his agent, so it is an impasse.

He said Derrick was no use to anyone right now and the only difference between him and someone on IR is he isn’t cashing checks.

I know there are different opinions, but I like this stance the Jaguars are taking.

by Tkopa on Aug 4, 2008 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree...

I have to admit that I was very excited on draft day when the Jags went way up there and got a player like Harvey. Although I believe that he would be great on this team, he is still only one guy. This is a very good football team with or without Harvey. It’s time to move on, give he and his agent the cold shoulder, and like JDR says, concentrate on his team that is at camp. It’s camp time now, preseason is here, and the season is just around the corner. No time to waste on problem children, it’s football time.

by jagsfanbrunell on Aug 4, 2008 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

Agents are scum suckers in cases like these.

However let’s ask this question…could Derrick tell his agent to cool off and accept the offer? If no, then the agent is a pig. If yes, then we can begin to think of Harvey as not really being a “team guy”.

Unfortunately, the truth only comes out game-by-game.

by arthardie on Aug 4, 2008 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Harvey is only hurting himself.
Groves is continuing to impress as per Vic’s column today, Wyche is impressing, Hayward has been impressing, Spicer is a lock.

That leaves 4 DE’s that are impressing in camp.

I see only one loser.

p.s. CHRIS! we can’t have you going awol like this again, i have missed your thoughts on camp.

by Joeyy89 on Aug 4, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Have no fear!

I’m back in full force. It was nice to spend a week with the fam, but I was seriously jonsing for some Jaguars news and notes!

-Chris

Big Cat Country!:: The Official Home of the Unofficial Blog of the Jacksonville Jaguars!

by River City Rage on Aug 4, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good Business

Agree with you, Tkopa. The Jags FO has made a business decision regarding what they are willing to pay for the product and are not accepting the market instability. Harvey and his agent have every right to work within the present pay structure but I have to agree that things are bloated and for a small market team the Jags are making the best decision for the franchise. I refuse to make anyone out as evil.

If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. But do not care to convince him. Men will believe what they see. Let them see.

Formerly known as The Village Idiot.

by bwfull on Aug 4, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Harvey will sign but not soon

The problem right now as I see it are two things:

1) Mr. Kremer is worried about his business recruiting next years class. Sedrick Ellis got $10mil per yr and $20mil guaranteed at the #7 spot. The Jags are interested in $4mill and $15 mil guaranteed. That difference makes Mr. Kremer look ineffective. His business is at risk.

2) Derrick Harvey has been licking his chops over $20mil guaranteed money. He needs to come down out of the clouds and that will take awhile. He is young and stupid and needs to learn “it is a business”. He isn’t a God and he isn’t even that important. The draft can go to your head.

It will work out when both sides agree. I don’t think the Jags are in any hurry to do this and I think they are right. They have to power and will enforce it. No real emergency here. Atlanta, Miami, Jets, New Orleans, they had issues. The Jags are healthy.

by Tkopa on Aug 4, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good Observation

You are right on. The Jags are entirely in the driver’s seat on this one. It will work out and to the Jags advantage; and I do believe the agents are sitting there somewhere saying “I can’t believe they agreed to that!” for other signees’.
I would like to think that the Jags front office is sitting somewhere, swanking, eating a fat lobster and saying, ” I wonder what Harvey is doing right now? Not eating Lobster!” and then snickering, but the organization seems to have too much class for this non-sense.

by Jaghomer on Aug 4, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Welcome back Chris,

What did you bring me?

Jus’kiddin’. Anyway, If Jack is ready to move on, then let’s go win some games. Harvey will sign, y’all are right, but for alot less money than he planned. After Kremer went to the press, this coaster is headed downhill. Harvey needs to sign before the Jags have moved completely on, or all of that guaranteed money will go “bye, bye”.

To be master of oneself and never waiver in ones resolve.
- Maximus Desimus Meridius

by jagsrock on Aug 4, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs