Jags-Bills Post Mortem

by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 14, 2008 4:21 PM EDT Comment 21 comments

Oh where to begin, where to begin? Trent Edwards 80% completion rate? Not turning the onside recovery or the fumble recovery into a touchdown? The running game's resurgence only to disappear either through coaching or execution late?

This was supposed to be the game that got the Jaguars back on their path to Tampa. This was a game the Jaguars have typically won. A team from the North coming down to Florida on a hot September day was supposed to wilt. It looked that way to start the 2nd half. The Jaguars turned a 10-3 Bills lead to a 13-10 Jaguars lead. A Trent Edwards fumble seemed to be the beginning of a "Knock Out Punch" for the Jaguars. Matt Jones got his hand on a ball that would have made it 20-10 but couldn't hold on. Following a Scobee FG, it seemed like the Jags were the ones wilting.

Trent Edwards was 20-25 for 239 and completed his first ten passes. Mathis hasn't been close to his 06 form and like most recent losses, every defensive series can best be summed up with stuffing the run and giving a QB all the time he needs.

Following this week I'm sure San Diego is licking their chops. Indy escaped Minnesota, we look like a team that needs a top 10 draft pick, not a Super Bowl run, and NE won't be the same team without Brady.

I'm not hitting the panic button just yet, but I'm getting close. A win over Indy will settle a lot, but thats not as easy as it sounds.

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Who'd have guessed?

The Jags 0-2? Those line injuries hurt the offense a lot again, and the pass D just got beaten badly. This is a game the Jaguars SHOULD have won for sure.

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by MrNFL on Sep 14, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yes the Jags should have won this game. I think our season starts next week. If we lose that one then o well.

by RJINTAMPA on Sep 14, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It hurts, this one does.

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by River City Rage on Sep 14, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd say we can just about forget the playoffs

I know it’s early and few people are as a big a fan as myself, but we ch-ch-choked again and these two opening games were supposed to be relatively “easy”… I guess the crypt-keeper was right… we’ll be lucky to be #3 in this division.

-Collin

by silencecs on Sep 14, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would have agreed

last year that these were relatively easy games. But the Titans and Bills are playing some good ball this year, and they are healthy. Off the top of my head, they are probably 2 of the 5 hardest games of the season. Really, most our preseason issues seem to be shored up. The offensive line played admirably. The D line played well. The secondary had a few hiccups, they need to learn you can push recievers out of bounds when they are in the air(Rashean)…
The recievers I think let us down. I don’t think Dennis should be in the game when the game is on the line late. We match up somewhat well against the Colts, at least better than in the past.

by Ewdtrey on Sep 14, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

dennis can catch

who do you propose to put in?

by Tkopa on Sep 15, 2008 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Our O-line is killing our running game

I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

by Orlando Rays on Sep 14, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

not over yet

If we beat Indy next week it will ease this pain severely. If we lose to them, all hell will probably break loose with the Jaguars fanbase. It’s sad but true. If we loose to Indy, expect the rest of the season to be blacked out. I’ve accepted this loss and I’m moving on.

One thing I learned last week and it’s a valuable lesson… I hate when football season is over and I don’t have any to watch. I’ll be damned if I’m going to spend my days pissed off during football season. Win or lose at least we can watch and hope for the best for our team.

by jimbrophoto on Sep 14, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

amen to that

I’ve waited too damn long to get here to be pissed. I’ve still got the faith. I am counting down the days till Brad Meester comes back though…

-Chris

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by River City Rage on Sep 14, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Meester's the man!

by Ewdtrey on Sep 14, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Almost at the breaking point...

Disappointing loss and 4th Quarter today, it wasn’t a must win game but at home it might have well as been. WR drops and lack of plays killed the Jags this game, not to mention the running game didn’t come alive until the second half, only to be abandoned when we needed it. With 4:10 left in the game down 1 pt, why not run at least once, Taylor had been moving the line up to that point and Buffalo’s D was ready to collaspe. The red zone turnover before halftime was costly, even a FG would have been much needed, and the 2 wasted time outs was another blow. All in all the Jags are 0-2, Jerry Porter has yet to play a down, the running game sucks, and Garrard has been poor. Thus I think as scary as it is to say @ Indy is a must win next week!

Go Jags!

by Jagz8 on Sep 14, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It is worth nothing that both the Titans and the Bills look like they are going to be damn good teams this year. We lost narrowly to both, even with all our O-line and WR receiver issues. This season is not yet done.

by KeithG on Sep 14, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think you ment noting not nothing.

by Ewdtrey on Sep 14, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Correct

You are right – I did mean “noting”. Sorry, typo.

by KeithG on Sep 15, 2008 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whatever is wrong

won’t be fixed until the season is half over. We encountered a jinx that invaded our team during the OTA’s. I hate to say it but 2008 is a fight uphill season. It is a test of the players and the fans to hang in there to really appreciate the glory that is delayed but on the way. All franchises go through the test. This is our. Hang in there, it might not be our year. This jinx might be too strong, but our time is coming. Keep showing up and stand by the team.

by Tkopa on Sep 14, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well Said

when you set expectations high, as in SB and undefeated season, the failure to do so stings. This is a time to evaluate the Jags Management and how this poor start to the season is handled. The injuries are proof that this is not a ‘one man’ or ‘one postion’ fix it game. Even teams with poor starts, mature through the season, and can still make for an exciting year. I don’t believe the season hinges on the Indy game. I expect this season all teams will have too much parity, and that you will see a .500 team make the wild card.

by Jaghomer on Sep 15, 2008 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Missing Pieces = missing the playoffs

D line once again displays inability to generate QB pressure – hence 80% completion rate. Although it was nice to see Groves make a play. Our #1 draft pick was MIA. Also, a very disturbing trend with the D – for the second straight week, when we absolutely had to have a stop in a crucial point in the game – the D gives up a long TD drive. This is also the second straight week that our D cannot make open field tackles.

O – well this has been consistent since preseason – we have no play makers outside and it has come back to bite us. Our off season aquisitions DID NOT address this need. We can hold out hope and offer prayers that Porter will deliver, but he’s never demonstrated that he’s a number 1 and until I see it on the field, I’m not buying it. He had a couple of good seasons playing opposite Randy Moss – nuff said.

Opossing D’s are going to continue to take away the run with 8 – 9 in the box and run blitzes (second straight week we’ve seen this – get used to it). O line got creamed with injuries last week and that certinly doesn’t help – but I keep harping on missing Meester – he’s more important than you know.

I’m not enamoured with the play calling either – but it did improve in 2nd half. This team is going to HAVE to establish the pass first in order to open up the run. This means 3 WR and much more pass plays on first down. Even though he can’t catch, they should also chuck one or two downfield to Williamson to help open up some underneath stuff – since our current crop of WRs cannot create seperation (causing Gerrard to press and force a few balls he shouldn’t – hence more INTs).

Next up is Colts — so 0 & 3 is starring us in the face. Given our pathetic pass rush, expect Payton to get well quick and have a big day. With our upcoming schedule – 1 & 4 or 0 & 5 is a very real possibility.

by OGN on Sep 14, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Its a scary future

After yesterdays game I began to wonder who the problem was. The QB or the WR’s. I mean why are we not throwing the ball down field? We dont even attempt too. You could see the field shrinking yesterday. The scary thing is that if it is the QB then we are screwed because right now we are stuck with thim and he is better then the backup. If its the WR’s then we need to release the bums and go look at someone else out there. My point is that all our expectations are falling short so far. Maybe Jerry Porter is the answer but he has missed so much time that I dont know. I dont even want to start on the O-Line problems. I did think that the defense looked okay though, but there was still to many mistakes. Like I said, its a scary future.

by JagSoldier on Sep 15, 2008 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs