Chinks in the Armor: Maurice Jones-Drew and Mike Peterson question coaches; teammates question each other
[Note by River City Rage, 09/15/08 6:49 PM EDT ] My original headline is, upon further reflection, misleading. I did NOT mean to imply that Maurice Jones-Drew and Mike Peterson were questioning each-other, my point was that Jones-Drew and Peterson questioned the Coaches, the latter part was in reference to Rashean Mathis "calling out without calling out" another player on the Hardy TD.
All is not well in Jacksonville this morning. The team, once considered Super Bowl contenders, is now 0 and 2, and faces the Indianapolis Colts on Sunday in a game that by the most relaxed of standards is a must win. For the Jaguars to seriously contend for the division or even for the Wild Card, avoiding a 0 and 3 start is critical. This is obvious, of course, but the team is clearly strugging with the disaster on the offensive line.
What concerns me is the change of tone out of the locker room. Two of the Jaguars vocal leaders, Maurice Jones-Drew and Mike Peterson each called to question the decisions of the coaches.
First, Maurice:
"There is no running game if you don't run it, and we just haven't ran the ball, that's all it is, there is nothing else to it," said Maurice Jones-Drew, who carried only seven times for 17 yards and has only 12 carries through two games. "We haven't run the ball, period. We've got to get back to what we are. We're a running team, period. That's all it is. Ask anybody, they'll tell you."
And Mike:
"I can't question it," Peterson said. "It's not my position to question it. I just play. I wish I could question it [but if he did] I'd be on the way out the door."
Peterson said the players have to make the play regardless of the call that comes in from the coaches.
"I look at it from the other perspective," he said. "I've got to make a play. I don't look at it as the coaches not having us in the right coverage. That's the easy way out."
While Peterson doesn't come right out and say it, he failed to reject the premise of the reporters question, and rather than saying "No, I don't question the decision", he instead allowed doubt to come through.
What bothers me about this is not that Jones-Drew and Peterson called out the coaches in their own way, but that they're probably right in their criticism. The Jaguars have suffered a remarkable devastation to their offensive line, that's for sure, but to abandon the running game in a grind it out, field position, physical slug fest is a sure way to lose the game. For all the incomplete passes to Matt Jones, I'd like to think that the Jaguars would have found a few more yards on the ground. On their touchdown drive in the 3rd quarter, they found some momentum in the running game and scored. Why they stopped and went back to the pass is beyond me.
I don't even want to talk about the pass play to Lee Evans. The Jaguars were set up all game long for that play. The Bills kept the passing game short and underneath for most of the game, and then when the time was right, went right over the top to Evans. Why the best receiver on the Bills was left on his own is beyond me.
Speaking of pass defense, this quote from Rashean Mathis really grinds my gears:
Cornerback Rashean Mathis, who said was the Jaguars were in a cover-4 defense with four deep back in coverage, was the defender closest to Hardy, but said it wasn't his man.
"I'm not pointing any fingers, but it was a busted coverage," Mathis said.
That's not the "team first" mindset I'd like to hear out of what should be a Pro-Bowl quality cornerback. Yes, he didn't name names on who blew the coverage, but Rashean likes to consider himself one of the best in the league, so there's no excuse why he didn't close down Hardy and save the touchdown.
Rough Stuff
The offensive line, regardless of condition, will improve when given the chance. Unless the coaches have zero faith in the line to open the running game, they must give them the chance to wear down the defensive line and open up rushing lanes. They'll need time and runs if they're ever going to return to the style of Jaguars football that we know and love.
Of course, this team also suffers from having zero impact receivers, considering that Porter and Williamson are on the sidelines, Mike Walker is still developing, and Matt Jones is still Matt Jones. The Jaguars are facing 8 and 9 guys in the box and will continue to do so until someone emerges as a legitimate pass catching threat.
Everything the Jaguars built in the offseason has fallen apart. Their star defensive end draft pick is late in development because of a hold out. Their "magic bullet" at wide receiver is sidelined for at least another week. Everything they did to put the team over the top against teams like the Colts is nowhere near where it needs to be as we go to Indianapolis.
We need Meester's Bicep to heal as soon as possible. Meester returning to center allows Norman to go to guard, which should bring us a little closer to a normal offensive line than we have now.
These are my thoughts, how about you?
-Chris
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OGN
Chris – I’ve been saying this since the close of preseason and I stand by it. This team has some glaring weaknesses that were not addressed (attempted to, but not addressed) in the off season. I’ve posted a comment in your Bills / Jags Post Mortum column regarding this. This is a 3rd place team in the AFC South – at best. I hate it, but it is what it is. And you MUST consider, we have a much much more difficult schedule than we did last year. AND historically, this team does not do well against it’s AFC South rivals (last year they were 2 – 4).
WR’s – Williamson was basically let go from a team that is a decent passing game away from going deep in NFC playoffs. There’s a reason we got him so cheaply. Good gamble on our part, but one I’m afraid that just isn’t going to materialize. Porter – having surgury on the hammy does not bode well for long term season health – and I’ve been harping on this – he’s never proven to be a number 1 receiver. He had a couple good years playing opposite Randy Moss and until it’s actually demonstrated on the field – it’s wishful thinking.
I’ll also throw this out to you since you have contact with the players. Last year’s team really had some chemistry, they had “IT”. This year’s addition seems to be lacking “IT”. Do you get the same sense?
by OGN on
Sep 15, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
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So far, I don't think so
I’ve not seen the spark, the light, the intensity that I saw out of last years Jaguars. Though I’m really hoping this adversity brings it out. They’ve got their backs to the wall this week, that could bring out the best in them.
We need Meester back, there’s no question about it.
-Chris
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by River City Rage on
Sep 15, 2008 10:46 AM EDT
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Meester
I completely agree with getting Meester back. He’s our best O lineman – intelligent and nasty! Missing him has really hurt. I’m also concerned how healthy he’ll actually be.
by OGN on
Sep 15, 2008 11:08 AM EDT
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I do think we have been out coached
There is really no other way to look at it. The O-Line is not the total problem. We have been beaten upstairs. These are all good players on defense.
by Tkopa on
Sep 15, 2008 11:15 AM EDT
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Onside kick in second half... go for it on 4th and short in own end...
Del Rio clearly outcoached Juaron. If you gamble and win, you outcoached the guy, if we’d had lost those plays… I’d then say we got out coached… JDR is NOT the problem.
-Collin
by silencecs on
Sep 15, 2008 3:34 PM EDT
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We were not out coached
They have good recievers, a good o line, a good and up and coming QB, great running backs, and new O coordinator that still has the element of suprise considering the lack of film calling plays. How can you prepare against something if you haven’t gotten history to help you predict what can happen?
by Ewdtrey on
Sep 15, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
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yeah but,...
4th down with the game on the line we punt, and not well at that. They drive, they win, end game.
The call on defense to blitz in the Titans game was, for lack of a better term, ASININE. They had converted ONE attempt on third down all day with their starter. Would the chance of the backup on a few warm-up passes getting the first down be more likely. Wow! I know kids on Madden ‘09 who would have known not to make that mistake. JDR is the head coach. If he sees bad formations on the field he should address it. Not doing so makes it his fault. It’s not like he was on a cell phone call and missed the play. And if you have the #3 TD scorer over the last 2 years and the total yardage leader for the same duration, over LT and the like, and you give him 12 rushes in 2 games, you deserve to lose.
I am totally stunned at the coaching, ……. just like Drew and Peterson.
And it’s not like we have had a great offensive line before the injuries. Come’on, Look at Barry Sanders. He never had a good line. That’s why he has more negative yardage than anyone in history. But he also averaged over 5 yards per carry. Why? Because they gave him more than 7 carries a game. He would go 7 carries for 17 yards and then one for 72 and PAYDIRT. Had they given up on him running the ball, he would have left or retired sooner.
Now tell me, …… DO ANY OF YOU OUT THERE WANT TO SEE MAURICE JONES-DREW LEAVE JACKSONVILLE BECAUSE OF LACK OF PLAY? Not me, and his contract will run out soon.
To be master of oneself and never waiver in ones resolve.
- Maximus Desimus Meridius
by jagsrock on
Sep 16, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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I garantee you
MJD wont leave. He will get paid what he wants when it’s his time. The Jaguars don’t really have a choice. Greg Jones is good, but he can’t do everything and Freddy T has got to retire eventually. Besides he doesn’t need to run the ball 30 times to be happy. Besides if he did carry the rock 30 times a game I’m sure he could do it, but not for a whole lot of years; not the way he runs at least, no one does at any size minus a few exceptions.
BTW before the injuries we had a great O line for running. I do agree our pass blocking was just a little above average.
by Ewdtrey on
Sep 16, 2008 5:51 PM EDT
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I’m buying Porter to be great and why,OGN, do you already think Williamson isn’t panning out? because he got hurt? you’re weak OGN. Have some confidence. JAGS
by harveyismyboy on
Sep 15, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
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Saw the Game Again
After seeing the game again its very clear what the problem is. On offense I saw the Bills D have eight sometimes nine in the box. There is no way Taylor or MJD will have any success running the ball against that. Teams have no respect for the Jags WR core, and are able to cover the Jags WR’s one on one which allows teams to blitz Garrard and hurry his throws. There isn’t a WR that can stretch the field, heck there isn’t one that can even get open consistently in the short area. The Jags WR’s are PATHETIC!
Watching Matt Jones body language teams will automatically know whether its a pass or run, because if its a run Jones won’t even move more than a couple yards off the LOS.
Defenses have figured out how to cover Reggie, being that he is only effective on certain routes, and hasn’t got the speed to separate. Just Don’t give him the inside where he can use his body, and play him tight because there is no fear of speed.
The defense actually played a good game overall, but unfortunately had a couple break downs at key moments. I am hoping this is just due to having a new system to learn, and will only get better.
The special teams were awesome, maybe the best in the league. The one bad punt by Podlesh were he outkicked his coverage team is the only thing I can really point out as being a real negative.
I can only hope that Porter can make defenses respect the pass, otherwise I think this team will be lucky to finish above .500.
by NASF on
Sep 15, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
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Vic agrees with NASF
If you read “Ask Vic” and his explanation, it is very similar to the one given by NASF. O-line did and OK job. Defense was good but on the field way too long because the Jags can’t sustain drives on offense with no deep threat. Opposing D’s are selling out to stop the run and it works. The Jaguars have “no” WR capable of stretching the field and opening up the run. The run/pass offense must complement each other. We need to see what Porter does. If he fails, I think the team fails. This is unsettling to think the season and success of the Jaguars may depend on an unproven free agent from the Raiders.
by jagsfanbrunell on
Sep 15, 2008 3:50 PM EDT
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This isn’t a good thing if this continues. Also, calling Rashean an elite corner these days is getting a head turn from me. As I noted in the Post Mortem, the running game seemed to be turning the corner in the 2nd half, and then David was slinging it around like we were Texas Tech. Simply put, if we start 0-3 we can kiss the division goodbye.
-John
by FSBlueApocalypse on
Sep 15, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
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Take it easy already!
Hey, we lost two close games. Yeah it sucks, but so what. Let’s not call out Matt just yet. Sure he dropped a crucial TD pass from DG, but I also don’t hear anyone calling out Marcedes our Dennis for their dropped passes. Is our WR group suffering? Yes, but it can be fixed by going back to a more concervative play calling scheme to get us back on track. Simply put, let’s stop trying to look like Indy or Cleveland and let’s run that ball more. Short passes worked last season and where is the TE in the offensive scheme? The TE was a featured part of our passing game and so far, I havn’t seen it yet. Keep in mind JDR’s presser this afternoon. He did say that this is similar in how the team started off last season. I know our schedule is more dificult, but it is what it is. Maybe we won’t make the playoffs like we were predicted too? Just enjoy the ride. BTW, I’m confident that Porter will return this week and we’ll really have something to be excited about after we play Indy. Would you all be pissed if we lost 34 to 37? I wouldn’t be!
by keef on
Sep 15, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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The two things in retrospect that is really bothering me
1. Garrard is making alot of throws he didn’t last year
2. The defense has not made the kind of big stop we need them to the last 2 weeks
-John
by FSBlueApocalypse on
Sep 15, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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I am totally with you on both comments....
Can anybody tell me if David has completed a pass over 40 yards since the Broussard catch to start last year? The only one I can remember was in the post-season against Pittsburg and it was well underthrown. There were several in the Cowboys vs. Eagles game LAST NIGHT. What is up with that. It’s not our recievers fault if the long ball is not anywhere near them or even thrown at all. The safety doesn’t have to play centerfield if there is nothing coming at all. Is this a ‘coaching game plan’ problem or a ’ David’ problem?
To be master of oneself and never waiver in ones resolve.
- Maximus Desimus Meridius
by jagsrock on
Sep 16, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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Disagree
Have to respectfully disagree on this one. We really have to look at the questions asked (not just the answer). Take into consideration mindset, what was asked and when it was asked. Pride factors in as well.
Does MJD want more carries? Yes. Does Mike want to always be in position and not miss tackles? Yes. Would Rashean like to cover everyone on the field? Of course.
IMO, still one of the tightest locker rooms in the NFL
by RobbC on
Sep 15, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
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You may very well be right.
Leading questions might set up responses like this. Perhaps it’s more so the frustrating start, not any rift b/t players and coaches.
-C
Big Cat Country!:: The Official Home of the Unofficial Blog of the Jacksonville Jaguars!
by River City Rage on
Sep 15, 2008 8:36 PM EDT
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It will get fixed...
let’s have a little faith. After watching JDR’s presser this afternoon, I thought exactly the same thing. Last year we barely beat Atlanta. A play here a play there and last year we would have been 0-2. I think we beat them 13-10 or something and that was a team that the head coach walked out on in or around week 14 or 15 I think. Not to say that the Bills resemble a franchise similar to that, but still, we started off slow. I just hope that JDR relooks how he holds a training camp next year. Let’s beat INDY this week! GO JAGS!!! Hold the faith fellow Jags fans!
by keef on
Sep 15, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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A win in Indy...
would put this team in a great spot. Ten. plays Hou. It’s an AFC South weekend. Let’s get the win in Indy and put ourselves right back in the Div. race!
by jagsfanbrunell on
Sep 16, 2008 10:06 AM EDT
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That's right....
tell people that we lost to 2 undefeated teams and they will say, " It’s only been 2 games, undefeated means nothing." And I say, " It’s only been 2 games, 0 and 2 means nothing." Hell, if San Diego and the Giants can start like they did and get good results then why can’t we? Both losses were by 7 or less and with a banged up team.
It’s early. And we are a good team. The Jags do Rock !
To be master of oneself and never waiver in ones resolve.
- Maximus Desimus Meridius
by jagsrock on
Sep 16, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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let's stay positive...
last years start wasn’t that different, was it? Granted we beat Atlanta, but Bufallo is no Atlanta! We have to remember that this team has talent while other teams that have similar records right now, do not. Nobody is going to feel sorry for us and we shouldn’t feel sorry for ourselves either. The players sure as hell don’t. Make no mistake, we will compete and we will win games this year. I believe in the team and let’s all enjoy the ride like Coach Del Rio said. I highly doubt that we are going to have a losing season this year.
by keef on
Sep 16, 2008 7:49 PM EDT
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Believe it or not...
the Jags look surprisingly a lot like last years team. The nice thing about 0-2 is that I think it takes the pressure off rather than put the pressure on. I feel it so much as to think the Jags may just come away with the “W” this week. The team probably knows the Colts better than anyone, and the defensive changes have been to attack a team like the colts offense. If you watched Peyton against the Vikings, it was anything but impressive. Yes he won the game in the 4th quarter, but the Vikings did do a choke job. I’m going out on a limb here and going to say the Jags come away with this one and the Colts have a bad inaguaral start for their stadium.
For such a pessimist , I have been doing a lot of cheer leading. Go Jags!
by Jaghomer on
Sep 17, 2008 8:27 AM EDT
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I'm with you on that, dude.
To be master of oneself and never waiver in ones resolve.
- Maximus Desimus Meridius
by jagsrock on
Sep 17, 2008 5:54 PM EDT
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Recipe for winning
With you all on this one
#1. Jags come out with some passion last time (sorry the last 2 games there was more life in a graveyard then in the Jags)
- Garrad we are paying u all this money now get your head in the game be patient and get it done
- Who ever is calling the plays for offense needs to be slapped on the head for stupidty please have faith in what we got and use the wepons
- Defense get it done and mathis please shut up and actually cover people
Thank you
by crazyjesus on
Sep 18, 2008 12:09 AM EDT
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