My Preliminary Draft
by Tkopa on Jan 7, 2009 8:44 PM EST
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Round One: Michael Oher, OT-Ole Miss
Backup Eugene Monroe, OT-Virginia
Round Two: Duke Robinson, G-Oklahoma
Backup Eben Britton, OT-Arizona
Round Three: Percy Harvin, WR-Florida
Backup Rhett Bomar, QB-Sam Houston State
Round Four: Rashad Johnson, S-Alabama
Backup Trevor Canfield, OG-Cincinnati
Round Five: Jason Phillips, MLB-TCU
Backup Patrick Chung, S-Oregon
Backup Derrick Williams, WR-Penn State
Round six: Clay Matthews, OLB-USC
Early Round Logic: Since first round draft picks have a 50% success rate, go for the offensive line in the first two picks. If you hit on both, wow, set for years, but if not, someone comes through.
Round 3 logic: If a really good WR makes it to round three, take him. If a really good QB makes it to round three take him. The QB doesn't seem to be a need but if he hits, he becomes trade bait later or sooner or later you must develop a young QB.
Round 4&5 logic: Just best available player. Would love a good safety and a good MLB. I don't think we are as set at LB as we think and competition is a good thing. A very competitive safety would shake things up. Derrick Wiliams is a poor mans Troy Williamson.
Round 6 logic: Please please please get Clay Matthews. His Dad was so fabulous that I know his namesake won't let him down. If ever there would be a hard working kid, Clay is him.
P.S. Preparing this draft taught me how tough it can be. I tried to pick people who wanted to play football and weren't a reach at the draft position. It is only a preliminary look. Add your choices to the discussion. - Terry
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No D-Lineman
I am somewhat suprised to see no DT(s). If you had to insert a DT somewhere where would you take one?
by Jermaside4 on Jan 7, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can't find a D-Lineman that is a sure thing.
Can you recommend one? I looked but there doesn’t seem to be a good third round selection.
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by Tkopa on Jan 7, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice List
Nice list, and I like your draft strategy. Percy Harvin may not fall all the way to round three, but if he does, it would be great to grab him.
by Bestjagfan on Jan 7, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Percy Harvin
is 5’11" 195… and I that’s a media guide weight, not a true weight. I have major concerns about how he’d hold up in the NFL. Even before he got hurt this week, and before I realized his ankle had been a problem before, I thought he was way too small.
What kind of role would he have on an NFL team? I’m thinking a Wes Welker like receiver, but with even more speed. You want him for his YAC, not necessarily his deep threat speed, although it makes for a nice mix. Welker’s not really anything more than a catch-it and-fall-down possession receiver, so I guess he’s a bad comparison. I don’t see Harvin playing RB unless he gains 10 – 15 lbs, or even then really.
Well maybe he COULD play RB, I just looked up Chris Johnson and he’s only listed as 5’11" 200lbs. Yeah, Harvin will never make it to the 3rd round, he’ll probably go early 2nd.
by JirafaBo on Jan 8, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
error
I said Welker wasn’t much of a YAC guy, then I saw that he led the NFL in 2008 in YAC with an average of 6.8 per reception. Guess he’s does it with more of a consistant 5 – 10 yards YAC, instead of the big long runs.
by JirafaBo on Jan 16, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I meant to correct you a long time ago. I must have gotten distracted or something. He probably gets most of his yards from YAC. He hardly ever goes deeper than 12 yards or so. He’s also a pretty good punt returner.
Harvin is faster, but Welker is a little shiftier. They are decent comparisons.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 17, 2009 2:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like it.
I’d replace Harvin (who I don’t think is still on the board after he runs a 4.2 at the Combine: i.e. Chris Johnson) with the Best Available DT
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by River City Rage on Jan 7, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chris - who?
I tried to fit a DT in at third round, can’t find one. Any suggestions?
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 5:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clay Matthews
wont last till the 6th. He wont last past our 5th pick.
I know of a DL that I would like as a late pick or FA.
A DT from Iowa. And I don’t mean King.
I’m talking about the other guy, Matt Kroul.
He’s not big even though we do need a big DT eventually, but we could also use another Derek Landri which is who this guy reminds me of. They are about the same height and weight and the same motor and style.
Because of the lack of depth at the DT position, I would stay away from the first DT’s, because we would probably have to reach to get one of them.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 7, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Do you agree with taking him at a 5th round?
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 5:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think,
that we will trade back this year, for example in the 2nd round to get more picks in this draft?
by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 7, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
depends on how the QB's perform in the combine...
If all 3 QB’s have amazing showings, then some teams may want to try to trade up to get that much desired QB to be their long term answer. Flacco and Ryan have performed wonders this season and may cause a team to think that one of the QBs could be their quick fix. Miami is a team that NEEDS a new star QB. This will be chad’s last productive year undoubtedly so they may want to trade. Although The Tuna is the last cat I would want to negotiate with.
by silencecs on Jan 8, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good first round
Though I think we’ll need some luck with any of the 2nd/3rd rounders. I say they are all drafted ahead of our position in those rounds.
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Jan 8, 2009 12:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Probably true
But sometimes good value falls into the early 2nd round. If that happened with the second round guys I picked, we would have a quality draft. At least we aren’t reaching!
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 5:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Upon further inspection
Round 1: My top 2 choices as well.
Round 2: Duke Robinson won’t make it past Round 1. If we get Oher or Monroe in Round 1, I don’t think we’ll go for another tackle. My guess, Fili Moala, the big DT out of USC or maybe if Harvin or Jeremy Maclin fall, we get one of them.
Round 3: Somebody will be mesmerized by Harvin’s 40 time well before now. Bomar on the other hand is interesting. Has an arm and legs, but the head on his shoulders, considering he’s accepting a $10,000 check from a booster away from being OU’s starting QB tonight.
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Jan 8, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't like Harvin unless he is a bargin
No second round for Harvin in my mock draft.
First two rounds – high probablility success.
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also don't see any "can't miss" DT
I don’t want to waste a draft pick just because someone plays DT. The players selected have to be real players, real potential. There isn’t a DT that seems to qualify.
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fili Moala
is horrible. The only way I see him succeeding is if he plays in a 3-4 as a DE. He’s not nearly stout enough to be a DT but he’s not fast enough to play DE in a 4-3 or even a 3 tech in 4-3.
Ignore his stats and his size and the USC background. He will be bust at any round for us.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Cheung will be gone by round 2-3 in all likelyhood... he definitely won't be there in round 5
by silencecs on Jan 8, 2009 3:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If you approve, I'll set it up
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets skip the first round
With our track record we should just get as many second round picks as possible lol
by kterr on Jan 8, 2009 11:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Love your thinking Tkopa.
O line MUST be addressed and upgraded. I agree with taking a D lineman in round 3 but I don’t have a potential candidate at this time either.
Our WR corp needs to be blown up. We have way to many 1st & 2nd rounders on this anemic roster. That’s way too much $ for NO production. We’ll keep some of them but I’d expect Porter, Williams, and possibly Jones to be released / traded. Neither warrant 1st rounder $$. Take best available in later rounds.
by OGN on Jan 8, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Williams will be the only one not returning
Jones turned out to be a safe, reliable receiver in 3rd & 6+ situations and even that alone is worth keeping. Porter already got tons of the money and it wont cost a whole lot to bring him back next year. 1st rounder money has inflated quickly over the last 2-3 years so it’s not like Matt Jones’s salary is even that much.
by SoCalStites on Jan 8, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Jones was a late 1st round pick and his salary for last season was only like 660 thousand.
He was a steal for that price bro. He was the best we’ve seen him ever and he’s turned his attitude around. There is no way he’s gone, unless some team wants to offer a 2nd rounder, then we might actually bite.
by silencecs on Jan 8, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a little bit of
coke went a long way!
by Jaghomer on Jan 9, 2009 7:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
3RD DT'S
Alex Magee, Purdue 6’3 295 40= 4.94
Evander Hood Mizzou 6’3 295 40= 4.99
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Harvin=Westbrook
Hot Dog:$4/Big Coke:$3/Tickets:$1400/Watching Peyton Manning Cry:Priceless...
by Rufio904 on Jan 8, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not even close
Harvin=speed
Westbrook=everything you want
by SoCalStites on Jan 8, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the analogy isn't bad
They’re both fast, shifty, shy away from contact, and they are both fragile.
by MoveThoseChains on Jan 8, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you can compare Harvin to one of the all time greats yet.
I’m just now getting comfortable with making regular comparisons of MJD to Westbrook. Harvin has proven to be a college game breaker, but not an NFL one yet. I can’t wait to see what he does tonight though.
by silencecs on Jan 8, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MoJo = Westbrook
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mojo will within 2 years be better than Westbrook.
Or is he already?
Anyways, Matt Jones has to stay. He came up big on so many third downs this past year.
by harveyismyboy on Jan 8, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DT
What are your opinions on Gerald McCoy DT? Some mocks dont mention him period some have him going as high as around 10 in the first round.
by Jermaside4 on Jan 8, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is he a Sophmore?
He is highly rated but not a senior or junior that I can tell.
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I'm Young
Who was Clay Matthews’ father? and does this kid actually have potential?
by harveyismyboy on Jan 8, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Clay Matthews Father is Clay Matthews Jr.
He played something like 19 seasons in the NFL and went to the Pro Bowl 4 times.
His brother was Bruce Matthews, played on the O-Line and went to the pro bowl 14 times now in the HOF.
His father (or grandfather, depending on which Clay Matthews we mean) was drafted in 1949 and played for the 49ers as both an offensive lineman and a defensive end.
In short, Clay Matthews USC come from the deepest family roots in football. He will be the third generation of “Clay Matthews” to play in the NFL. What kind of pressure to succeed do you think that brings? Also, he sites his father as his role model.
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You didnt put up any CB's
What does everybody think we’ll do about Corner position?
by harveyismyboy on Jan 8, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
SORRY
As many of you would like me to, I have no comment on this “Preliminary Draft” =) I have found it better to wait until the deadline for underclassmen to declare. Anything before that is just wishful thinking! (however, there were alot of holes in that draft!) But Good job.
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not a finished product to be sure
Plenty of chances to improve before draft day. I just found it interesting to begin the discussion.
What “holes” do you see that are critical?
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AGREED
DT, CB, C, MLB. However, let’s be honest, this team almost needs something at every position for Depth. We don’t have good depth on this team. I don’t think Rob Meier will be our starting DT next year, I don’t expect Reggie Heyward to return. Rocky Bernard is a free agent DT and a big body and he’s an under the radar kind of guy. We need to decide on MLB quickly! Are they going to move Daryl Smith to Middle and go with Ingram and Durant as outside backers? I hope not, because neither one of them can cover worth crap. Smith on the other hand can cover. I like Durant going to MLB instead. We need a MAN shut down corner, we do NOT have that (RASHEEN) is a ZONE corner, not a man corner. (ASK MARVIN HARRISON AND HE’LL TELL YOU THE SAME.) Are we Re-signing Meester? If not, is Norman the answer? NO! We have alot to do I think, and it will take two years or so.
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All great points
So we can draft best available at each round regardless of position and benefit. I think as long as we get real players and not position holders we will be fine.
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
......
The problem has been that we have reached for several players in recent drafts and we have drafted guys that don’t fit our system or have misused! We draft Matt Jones and put him at slot for the first 3 yrs, WHY? He’s 6’6 230 and runs a 4.4… Id have him running a Post, Corner Post, Slant or a Fly, every time! But we had him running outs, drags, curls and all the small guy stuff! Then you have Mercedes Lewis who is a receiving TE and we have him blocking… WHY? Yes you have to do both sometimes, but he’s not a natural blocker. In this draft we need to start with the big ugly’s first! Because they make the difference! A GOOD D-line will make a secondary look like pro bowlers… They will force the QB to make bad reads and throw the ball away or make bad throws.
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I've said before
I like the feeling I get when thinking about this draft. Because we have so many needs the the BAP will usually fill a need too.
One thing that makes me a little sad about this is that there are no real game changers at the DT position.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
However, there are alot of guys that can fill holes and make a difference!
Peria Jerry DT 6’2 290 Ole Miss (58 tackles, 14 for loss, and 3.5 sacks)
B.J. Raji DT 6’1 323 Boston College (37 tackles, 13 for loss, and seven sacks) I LIKE HIM!!!!
Fili Moala DT 6’5 295 USC (32 tackles, 5.5 for loss, and 2.5 sacks.)
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Moala is no good
BJ is ok but I wouldn’t pick him until pick 30.
I don’t think Jerry is much better than Landri if he is at all.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ooo
I just found out that DE Everette Brown declared. We just finished drafting 2 DE’s last year, but I think Brown can be more of an everydown DE than Groves. And if we can’t get a good DT I say grab another DE and rotate one or more of them inside. I know people may not like my idea, but everyone keeps saying it’s about BAP and he could be at pick 8.
I’ve really grown accostomed to thinking that we will be getting one of the 4 best OT in the first rd so for me to change my mind it’s really hard.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 6:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Everette Brown is a beast
But we have more pressing needs than DE right now and there are 3 tackles who can be BAP at #8 as well.
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Jan 8, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Easy Now
Everette Brown will be a reach at #8 unless he is just a freak of nature. (could be the case, Im an FSU fan) However, here again, we drafted GROVES last year, in which he is a 3-4 linebacker, not a 4-3 DE….. Everyone Agree?
We should have drafted a OT last year in the draft since there was a ton of OT’s last year and then we could of taken brown this year! See, make me GM! LOL
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a hard choice for me
but if only Jason Smith is there of the top 4 OT, I think I go with Everette. The reason being that Jason may be a real good pass blocker, probably the best, he may not fit our run first mentallity. If that’s the case I don’t think he would be worth the upgrade over Barnes who we could resign. Whereas if we draft Brown we can upgrade the entire DL. And we have more wiggle room as to what we can do with the aging guys like Meier, Hayward (I still think he’s pretty good, but for how much longer?), Spicer.
The Giants were criticized for picking so many DE’s, but who’s laughing now.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have a point
Although I think we need to upgrade the o-line, you have a point about the Giants and their pass rush. If the top four OT go, maybe Everette is the right choice.
by Bestjagfan on Jan 8, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only if the top OT go before #8 (which I doubt!!!)
There are two player positions that require super high draft choices:
All time great running backs
Left Tackles
Almost everyone else can be found elsewhere.
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and...
in my opinion it all starts with the “O” Line. I know the ole’ saying defense wins superbowls, but think about it… how many times has a suck offense made it to the post-season? Not often. You have to put some points on the board. No… I think build the O line and get what you can for defense later in the rounds. BAP as long as he’s an offensive lineman HA!
by Jaghomer on Jan 9, 2009 7:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brown
Everette Brown is certainly a fine athlete. But we can’t waste a first round pick on another defensive end right now. We really need to focus on a left tackle in the draft.
by Bestjagfan on Jan 8, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WE WILL TRADE DOWN BEFORE WE TAKE A DE AT #8, GUARANTEED!!! BTW, THE GIANTS DID WHAT THE JAGS DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO AND THAT’S PREPARE FOR AGING PLAYERS! THEY DRAFTED MATHIAS KIWANUKA TO REPLACE STRAHAN…. TUCK IS A DT/DE AND THEY GOT LUCKY WITH HIM IN THE 3RD ROUND OUT OF NOTRE DAME A FEW YEARS AGO
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How many times have you heard about
one DE helping out the other. The differnce between Brown and Spicer isn’t the only dividends we would get by picking Brown. He would also improve the entire DL. It’s one of those, the whole is greater than the sum of it’s parts.
I can live with Barnes for another year if the interior of the OL improves and we can get back to our run game. Remember last year Garrard was well protected with the OL we already have on hand (Assuming we resign people).
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you noticed what happened to KC
I would have thought KC would have been ok without Jared Allen considering how well everyone else around him was doing, and they added Glenn Dorsey to their line. But when Allen left, that DL had one of the fewest sack totals in NFL history.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please
Stop, im getting a headache! We have to think Logically here, another Top-10 DE two years in a row? HHHMM…. yeah, not going to happen! Hell, i’d be an upgrade over Spicer, so what does that say? Barnes is AWFUL, any decent DE, tears him a new one. Draft an OT, if not one rated that high on your board at your pick, then trade down. PERIOD!
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this is why...
… the committee selection process didn’t work for Shack, Jack and Gene.
We need a single voice at GM. One that says “Offensive Tackle” end of discussion.
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If one of the top 3 OT's
are there at 8 this isn’t a disscussion anymore.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Whew! thanks!
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
trading out of the top 10 is usually really hard to do.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
It’s happened twice in the last two years! There WILL be 1 of the 3 OT’S worth taking in the Top 8 when we pick! Guaranteed! Im the new GM, end of discussion! =)
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be so sure
Who is likely to take (or needs) a OT in the top 7? Let’s see…
Detroit (Gosder has been mostly a bust and he’s definitely not a LT).
The Rams will pick one no matter what.
The Bengals.
The Raiders.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The way I see it
many of the top 7 teams can use a DE or another. In either case we will have a good pick, and in all likelyhood the pick will practically be made for us.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
our LT position may not be as a big as a problem as we’re thinking.
The Titans added one guy in Jake Scott, a guard, to their team. They kept LT Roos in his position and still the Titans reduced their sacks from 30 in 2007 to a league leading 12 this year. That’s what a run game does for you.
With this in mind, we might even be better off adding someone like Herman Johnson in the second round. We need interior help anyhow. And this gives us more pseudo depth at all positions on the OL. If Johnson starts at RGLG then either Norman and or Mo Wiliams can kick out to OT or any other position.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we will have a good LT to choose from
especially with GM floridafalcons#63 on the watch.
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by Tkopa on Jan 8, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say
trading out of the top 5 is hard to do. Top 10 hasn’t been as difficult to get rid of.
by SoCalStites on Jan 8, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True
but even when the Ravens traded with us they had to give up more than their fair share of draft points. They were lucky that most of their draft picks worked out(so far), but that isn’t always the case. Even then when you trade down you may end up somewhere you don’t like. This is again seen with the Raven’s trade. They had to trade back up with someone else to get Flacco. There are a lot of questions, when trading out of the top ten. Also top ten trades can kill a career/franchise just as easily as it can help it. That makes anyone skeptical. And it makes trade partners scarce.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't trade
a top 10 draft pick, specially, that the so much needs what the team has right now. But if the Jaguars can do it in the second round, I wouldn’t mine for some extra picks.
By the way, who would be for you a huge disapointment to pick in the 1st round?
Plus, what do you think if the Jaguars pick Malcolm Jenkins with that 8th pick?
by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 8, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have a hard time really scouting Jenkins,
the guy never gets thrown at. I’m a little skeptical of picking a guy that isn’t tested enough. Heck there were times he was getting a little careless in coverage. I don’t like that attitude in my players. I know he was prbably just getting bored, I would probably get that way too, but I don’t like/accept that in a top 8 pick.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 8, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t of said it any better
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Um......
did you see him in the Fiesta bowl game? HE GOT BURNT! I think he’s got potential, but idk, I think we might can find one later in the draft. Look, im not big on taking CB’s early anymore, cause let’s be honest, how many CB’s in the league that are GREAT have come real early? Not Many….
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 8, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ohio State guys...
make me nervous. If the team is consistently worse than SEC teams and other big programs like USC and Texas then there players probably aren’t as good as advertised
by SoCalStites on Jan 8, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not true...
the f—-eyes produce some pretty good NFL talent and without the pacman mentality – minus Clarrett of course (what a dork). Good mid-west work ethic. When I hear Ohio St., I usually think defense LB or running back. Just a generality though.
by Jaghomer on Jan 9, 2009 8:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hhhmm...
I wonder how laurinitis will do in the NFL. I like his leadership.. something the jags could use on defense
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 9, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
the best players are the best leaders. I don’t really like to worry about who’s the best yeller. If everyone knows what they are doing and everyone is a true football player that really cares about football a leader doesn’t have to do much more than play and maybe make some calls on the field.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 9, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Burnt
He sure did get burnt, more than once. A corner would not be the right choice with a number eight pick. If we traded down to later in the first and decided to take a corner, I really see star potential in Macho Harris.
by Bestjagfan on Jan 9, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Spikes
Brandon Spikes looked really good when I was watching last night, he seemed to be everywhere. Is he supposed to be going in the first round? might he be someone we would trade down to get? But there seems to be a very strong LB group this year.
by Jermaside4 on Jan 9, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree. He played brilliantly!
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by Tkopa on Jan 9, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also admit I was wrong about Percy Harvin
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by Tkopa on Jan 9, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Percy
It’s easy to look at his size and write him off as a track star. But he proved how tuff he can be playing in the National Championship with a bum ankle. And when he runs, he really runs with a good mix of power for a wide receiver type. In the NFL, that’s what he would have to play though. I don’t see him being a running back.
by Bestjagfan on Jan 9, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's got
thicker calves and arms than I thought. If he put more muscle on his upper legs and glutes, he could be pretty good in this league as a hybrid. He doesn’t exactly fit our system(OL). But he would do well with a team like the Eagles. In fact I wouldn’t put it past them to draft him. They already have a few guys back there(Correll and I believe Lorenzo Booker), but seeins how everyone there gets hurt all the time, they could use the depth and youth.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 10, 2009 5:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BOTH OF THEM
SPIKES AND HARVIN BOTH LOOKED GOOD THE OTHER NIGHT. I THINK SPIKES NEEDS TO LOSE THAT BEER GUT HE HAS (DON’T KNOW IF ANYONE NOTICED THAT) BUT I THINK HE WILL BE REALLY GOOD IN THE LEAGUE.
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 10, 2009 8:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Less Caps, if you don't mind.
I love your insights, but if I could implore you to stay off the caps-lock, it’d be super. I’m programmed to see all caps as yelling, and I don’t think that’s how you mean to come across!
Thanks!
-Chris
Big Cat Country!:: The Official Home of the Unofficial Blog of the Jacksonville Jaguars!
by River City Rage on Jan 11, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be great if we got OL in first and Macho Harris in 2nd
by harveyismyboy on Jan 10, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Hokie fan in me
would love to see the Jags snatch Macho in the 2nd round!
by Jacked Up on Jan 13, 2009 7:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
River City Rage
My apologies! Won’t happen again =)
by floridafalcons#63 on Jan 12, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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