4th and Short in the Redzone: My Attempt to Analyze a Failed Play
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009101111/2009/REG5/jaguars@seahawks#tab:watch
(The Play is at about 0:38)
There were many bad plays to choose from but I thought the first of our 4th down attempts in the 1st was one of the worst especially since it, more than any other play had the potential to get us in the game.
The Scenario: The score was 3-0 Seattle with 2:30 left in the 1st. The Jags let up a field goal, but the game was still in control. With a couple of big plays from Holt and Jones-Drew the Jags find themselves on the Seattle ten. Two bad passes and one good one later it's 4th and goal on the two. JDR makes the call to go for it.
The Formation: Jags line up in the I formation Jones in front of MJD, two tights ends on the right Lewis and Wilford on the outside, Mo Williams is eligible on the left side as a tight end.The formation says we're most likely going to do one of four things: FB dive, HB dive, misdirection play, or PA pass. A QB sneak up the gut would also be possible but we most likely would have spread the formation if we were going to try that.
This play was doomed from the start. At the time I was listening to the radio broadcast and Jeff Lageman said it was going to be a pass when he saw them get set. After watching the replay myself I can see why. Even in Low-Res NFL.com video I can see that every down lineman with the exception of Wilford and Vinny has their weight back in their stance. Just about anyone who has ever lined up in a three point stance on a football field knows that means they are going to drop back and pass block, pull, or pivot and seal. At this point, before the ball is even snapped, the Hawks know we are going to pass and most likely it will be to one of the two tight endson the right.
Execution: Garrard snaps and makes a lame excuse for a play action fake. Greg Jones goes out to the right flat, Wilford runs a four yard out towards the right corner of the endzone. The left gaurd pulls and everyone else up front attempts to seal the right side. Garrard rolls out right pump, fakes once, looks like he wants to tuck it, hesitates and steps back. No one is open, he throws it out of the back of the endzone, turnover on downs, depression sets in.
The defense was never fooled for a second. The linebackers took a single step up and went into coverage on the right. There were at least 5 blue shirts around Wilford and Jones. Jones was well short of the end zone so Wilford was the one man who had a shot to make the play but he was surrounded by blue.
Problems: Well it didn't work! A PA roll out like this one only works if you get the D to bite hard on the run. That's why I just don't get this play. Why have your lineman line up to seal or pass block when you are trying to sell the run? Why limit your options to two players? Dave didn't even have a chance to take it in himself b/c the entire secondary only had 2 recievers to account for. With all the brilliant plays we've called in the same situation I'm baffled with Koetter's choice here. The only possible explanation I can think of is that someone screwed up their assignment.
We have a big QB, 2 powerful runners, and a bulldozer (well at least he used to be) at guard. Don't get cute, punch it up the gut! Or if you want to pass SELL THE RUN!
Or......why not just take the three pts in the first place?
I know this was waaaay to in depth but for me this was the pivitotal point in the game and one of the lamest excuses for a play I've seen the Jags run for a while.
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That was the game ball
And we didn’t now it sadly.
It is a good decesion to analyze it!
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 12, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they didn't even put anyone to the left
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by Surteal on Oct 12, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've seen us use this play
a number of times, and usually it works. It just didn’t this time. The defense read it well, and they should be credited for watching their keys and for watching their fair share of game film.
by Ewdtrey on Oct 13, 2009 2:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your right
We ran a similar play against the Texans: http://www.nfl.com/videos/jacksonville-jaguars/09000d5d812f0c22/Garrard-gives-Jags-the-lead
But there are some key differences. We make the D respect the left side by leaving Wilford to the left. Also the O-line has their weight forward and shoot off effectively selling the run. The linebackers bite, go up field and give Garrard the room he needs to scramble in for the score.
It’s a good play but it relies %100 on making the D respect the PA fake. When lineman have their weight back and Garrad makes a weak fake it doesn’t have a chance in hell.
I’m just wondering why Koetter had the line pull or pivot and seal instead of shooting off the line.
ANY defense with an ounce of football sense would know exactly what’s coming.
Bad Play
Worse execution
But that’s just my opinion
by rusty904 on Oct 13, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the
execution was the problem. And I’m going off memory here, but I believe MJD was on the left side. That should be an even better distraction than Wilford.
by Ewdtrey on Oct 13, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What ever happened to the good ole quarterback sneak?
by SoCalStites on Oct 13, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They use it only in the 4th quarter
in playoffs…
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 13, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Tap and go… That would have been my call
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
by Bestjagfan on Oct 13, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought it was a great play call, everyone loooks at us as a run first team wih MJD
IDK what was so bad about it honestly. Thought there was no better call we couldve made and i agreed wwith the fact to go for it. one yard we needed, we dont get it, they start at 2, end of story. 3 points aint shit in this league.
by harveyismyboy on Oct 13, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do they run that vanilla shit on the goal line.
Get all your big guys in punch the ball in.
by Slvrgun on Oct 13, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We haven't
been able to do that as of recently.
by Ewdtrey on Oct 13, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Short yardage has been a problem. I still would have gone classic tap and go with Garrard
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
by Bestjagfan on Oct 13, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're gonna punch it in
I would have a lineup of Monroe, Vince, Uche, Mo, Britton. I like Meester a lot, but he’s not the most powerful guy we have if you know what I mean. Vince is exactly struggling, but in reality our offensive line as a whole has had a great punch. They are not playing aggressive. Uche and Britton are still playing really aggressive, but on the whole the OL doesn’t look like it did in 07. Monroe really was lacking his punch. But that could be attributed to him losing 14 lbs from the flu.
by Ewdtrey on Oct 15, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm At the Point
Where I like Uche better anyway. I think Meester should be let go, and pick up an interior lineman in the third or fourth. Uche is the future there, get him in full time.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
by Bestjagfan on Oct 17, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having Uche full time
at Center would be mistake at this point in his career. He’s a little slow into his stance, especially when pass blocking. He also doesn’t know near as much as Meester does about the offense as a whole, and Garrard needs a leader like Meester to help him as well as the 2 rookies with pass pro calls. Meester is also still better at pulling in space.
Yeah Meester may not be a big strong guy, but he was the key guy on our OL the years our run offense was dominant.
Here’s another lineup, but one that’s not just for goal line situations but for the next couple of games until Monroe steps it up.
From left to right: Britton, Manuwai, Meester, Uche, Mo
That would be a pretty good run blocking line too, I imagine. And we could probably run in both directions, instead of just the right like we have been.(Just till Monroe gets his strength back)
by Ewdtrey on Oct 18, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
darn corrections
Vince hasn’t exactly struggled
and our offensive line as a whole hasn’t had a great punch
by Ewdtrey on Oct 18, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should have just kicked the field goal and moved on...
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 15, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
but with the way our pass had been playing, we needed to take a bit of a gamble. At the very least had backed up on their one.
by Ewdtrey on Oct 16, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell Yeah
No blame on Del RIo, good call. I would go for it on fourth and one inside the five, all day. Defense just blew.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
by Bestjagfan on Oct 17, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a gambler
I like Del Rio’s guts. I said go for it as soon as I saw we didn’t get it. Great call
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
by Bestjagfan on Oct 17, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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