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Looking Backward:
Ok, we're back to reality in Jacksonville. After beating the Texans and stunning the Titans, the Jaguars revealed a little more of their true colors in a 41-0 beat down by the Seattle Seahawks. The team faced adversity, losing Mike Sims-Walker due to a "rules violation" and the distraction of whatever the heck Quentin Groves was doing on the road on the way to the game. In both cases, the players apologized to the team, the Weavers, and the fans for their behavior. Unfortunately for both, there's not much for us to highlight in the red zone.
We also learned something about Dirk Koetter's offense, that it's far less effective without a solid slot receiver to open the box for the running game. Houston and Tennessee showed us that Wide Receiver Mike Thomas is a game changer, not so much when he catches the ball, but when teams are forced to account for his motion. This end-around or reverse option forces a linebacker to respect the threat, putting one less player in between Maurice Jones-Drew and the end zone. Putting Mike Thomas on the outside, opposite of Torry Holt, took away that threat.
Surprisingly, Tight End Hybrid Zach Miller didn't receive much in the way of action. I envision him developing into a Dallas Clark sort of player for the Jaguars, perfect for the slot in the same way that Mike Thomas plays, though it's yet to be seen what happens on the field.
Looking Forward:
The Jaguars now look toward a home game against the struggling St. Louis Rams (Limbaugh's?). After the Tennessee game, we saw the Seahawks and Rams as a pair of easy wins, pushing the Jaguars to a 4-2 record at the bye week. Now we see a Rams team that probably smells blood in the water going against a Jaguars team that looked overwhelmed and underprepared. That said, I can't imagine a situation where the coaches could sit in that film room and watch the debacle and not dedicate every waking moment to salvaging a win out of the situation. If there was any week where the Jaguars could show some sign of a pass-rush, this would be the week as their offensive line is sub-par and Mark Bulger is coming back. Bulger, despite being my back-to-back fantasy football championship quarterback a few years ago, is a quarterback that can be pressured into making mistakes (and often out of the game).
Stat of the Week: The New York Jets, with Blitz Happy Rex Ryan, had four team sacks going into the Monday Night Game. The Jacksonville Jaguars have a total of four teams sacks with a much more passive approach. Why is it that the Jets pressure the QB and the Jaguars tackle air?
Final Thought: My thoughts on Jack Del Rio are well known. This is a big week for him. There's no excuse for the Jaguars to fall to the Rams at home. Falling to weaker teams is a common trend in the Del Rio era, he needs to break character and deliver a win. It's as simple as that. Should Del Rio lose, the drumbeat will start to get awfully loud.
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I thought last week was "the week" to generate a pass rush with the M.A.S.H. unit Seattle was fielding
The never ending question of pass rush – answer – we have none and our pass rush specialists are B.U.S.T.S. We will need to address this with new personnel during the next couple of off seasons.
Totally agree with you RE: JDR – inconsistency has been his consistent trait
Go Jags
MSW
I still don’t understand this coaching group. Why couldn’t Del Rio simply suspend MSW for th Rams game instead of deactivating him a few hours before a potential turn around season game. We would have been better prepared if we had suspended him on the Rams game on every level. I feel this is a case of the coaches pride getting in the way, Del Rio is on the hot seat.
Tony Ducks.
I hate to say it
But I agree with Del Rio, he benched a backup against the Texans, he couldn’t NOT bench MSW for the same thing. What kind of message does that send?
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by River City Rage on Oct 14, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd Give Del Rio Credit
At least he was consistent for once :)
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
I agree with the benching too
We should be outraged at MSW for missing curfew. What could he have been doing in out late in Seattle that puts the team first ?
Had this been Harvey or Nelson we would be crucifying the the player this week.
I also agree with the benching
What do would the team or you yourself think if a co worker got special treatment b/c they were a top performer. I’m sure they do that in college however… but this ain’t college football.
In the face of adversity, what you do from then on dictates who you really are...
Also...
Would it have affected the score? MSW can’t make an INT or sack the QB… just saying.
In the face of adversity, what you do from then on dictates who you really are...
I agree with Tony
Suspending your best receiver right before the game is cutting off your nose to spite your face. There’s got to be a better way to discipline professional football players. Treating them like they are in grade school or on a pop warner team is silly. Last year when the team was playing bad, Jack decided to change the locker room assignments around. Boy did that do a lot of good. It reminded me of when I was in kindergarten and the teacher changed by desk assignment around so i could sit by little Johnny. What Jack did in Seattle for missing curfew, in my opinion, did more harm than good. Sure it sent a message to the players that he means business. But unfortunately that doesn’t win football games. If you’re nascar car owner and you’re driver has just put you on the pole of the Daytona 500 for the next day and he shows up a little late and misses curfew. Do you sit him and put your tire man in the car? Heck no. I think they should fine him, make him run laps, make him stand in the corner, or not invite him to the jaguars christmas party. But hurting the entire team, all the fans, and the game in general, to prove a point is nonsense. I think Jack’s on his way out… and deservedly so..
It does win football games
It wins football games in the future, and the Jaguars are much more concerned about the future at this point. If you as a coach take it easy this time, players will continue testing your limits, seeing how much they can get away with. Now they know: they can’t get anyway with anything, leading receiver or not. It was the right call.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 14, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The worry for me
… about the lack of MSW is that it highlighted Garrard’s biggest weakness as a QB: he needs serious chemistry with WRs before he tries to throw their way. Yes, the offensive gameplan was built around MSW and yes, the motion of Thomas was missed. But, no team’s entire offense should be built around a single receiver. What if MSW gets injured in the first play of a crunch game? The offense still needs to perform, and Garrard needs to target and find other receivers. You can’t just do nothing.
I’m sure there was a lot more involved (an under-performing O-line etc.), but it seemed clear to me that Garrard was a lot less comfortable without his favourite toy.
"Should Del Rio lose, the drumbeat will start to get awfully loud."
There’s something about the phrasing of that sentence that really bothers me. Maybe it’s the thought of Jack winning or losing games. It’s the team that wins or loses games. If you can’t get to the quarterback, then you just can’t get to the quarterback, and Jack isn’t going to put on pads and try it himself. The fans are going to be desperate for a scapegoat if the team loses to the Rams, and the coach is always the most convenient scapegoat. I am usually especially bothered when people want a change just for the sake of change, without bothering to check if there are better options. As I explained in my article a couple weeks ago, I really don’t think there are any [that are willing to come to Jacksonville].
…that said, there really is no reason to lose to the Rams.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 14, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
i beg to differ
look at the 1-15 Dolphins of 2 years ago… coaching and personnel change and the team has done a 360. I believe we have a great GM in smith but old knots need to be cut loose.
Tony Ducks.
Sad but true
This is a W. Unless the Rams will steal the mind of the Saints or Giants for sunday, everything but a W is inexcuseable!The Jaguars showed from themselves a quite ugly picture in Seattle, time to show that they an play.
By the way, anyone read this?
http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2009-10-14/story/jones_drew_says_jaguars_abandoning_run_game
This is also might be good enough fo an article….
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 14, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
working on it
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by River City Rage on Oct 14, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
If we barely win, by a margin on less than 2 touchdowns
something is wrong
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I don't get it (Mojo's comments)
When we whipped the titans it certainly wasn’t by running it. And quite frankly, our running game was not great against the seahawks. 34 yards, including one 18 yard run, off 12 attempts from Mojo. Including that 18 yard run, it’s STILL less than 3 yards per attempt. Why would we try and stick with that?
I thought we were all tired of the “3 yards and a pile of dust” boring offense? Personally, I think we’ve looked best when our passing game has been effective. We need to use passing to open up those running lanes for Mojo because he cannot run with 8 in the box with our O-line.
move the chains has accepted mediocracy
and defends it with passion.
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If the Jaguars are mediocre this year, that will be an upgrade over last year.
In the entire time that I have been defending Jack Del Rio, I have never heard anyone make a better suggestion. It’s always “oh he’s got to go, he’s not the guy”. Tell me, who is the guy? But no one ever tells me. No one can tell me. We ran Coughlin out of town, punishing him for his mismanagement of the salary cap and personnel without any regard for if anyone out there was actually better. Jack Del Rio has already been held accountable by being stripped of any say in personnel matters. Shall we punish him further again without any regard for if anyone out there is better?
You’ve accepted a self-defeating cycle, but you’re convinced that this ride just goes straight instead of around and around and around.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 14, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
In essence, firing the players is exactly what is going on right now.
The blood-letting of this past offseason continues with the weekly roster moves and will certainly continue after this season. The talent level still needs to be increased at too many key positions.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 14, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but you can fire half of them...
This team has 27 players on it who are new or relatively new to the team this year. I’d say that’s pretty close to firing your whole team… lol
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the turnover will continue - this org needs "Playahs".
I believe that in 3 years, there will only be a handful or so players left rom the 2008 roster.
I've heard some of suggestions on "who may be better" - Cower & Shanahan, just to name 2.
We’ve also seen relatively “unknowns” (coaches) making their mark in the NFL in recent years as well, especially assistants from the Belichick coaching tree. Is there another ‘diamond in the ruff’’ ready to be unearthed? I would imagine that Gene is far more knowledgable on that score than I or anyone else on this site. We can flip the arguement around on you as well – After 6+ years of demonstrated inconsistency – why are you still willing to ‘play a pat hand" and “hope” things will improve with regards to coaching. If you believe JDR is the best answer for the Jags – then that’s your opinion and I respect that. There is however, a good case to be made for the other side of that arguement
In order to be faIr – I do think JDR is doing a better job this year. It is my belief that the accountability that Gene is infusing into this organization has also impacted the coaches.
I personally don't believe Shanahan is any better
Think JDR is bad for winning one playoff game in 6 years? Increase that to 10 years, and mix in a consistently inconsistent defense, and you have Shanahan. I agree that Cowher would be better, but I don’t think he would ever agree to come here, and I don’t think Weaver would ever agree to pay him the exorbitant salary a Dan Snyder or Jerry Jones would pay. Also, the mark that the Belichick assistants and others have been making has been generally negative (Crennel, Mangini, Zorn), and it’s too early to judge ones like McDaniels. In that context, I truly believe Jack is the best answer.
I couldn’t agree more with your last statement. It seems like Jack is truly “getting it”, and again that leads me to believe he is the best answer for the Jaguars.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 15, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Jack did the right thing
How much more effective can a benching be to a player that is supposed to make an impact on the game than making him watch his teammates get beat like that from the sidelines because he couldn’t follow the rules? If he has any pride as a Jaguar he is very embarrassed right now and determined to make up for his mistake. Personally, I will take a bad loss once if it serves as a lesson that no matter how good you are, you can be benched if you don’t follow the rules, and no matter how good you did last week doesn’t make you that good next week. Losing this game isn’t going to be what stops us from winning a championship this year, but it may be something that helps set the culture for the future of these young players.
by Richierich_420 on Oct 14, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions

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