Random thoughts a long way from home
I had to travel to New Jersey for a week long corporate meeting. I picked up a bit of the game at a TGI Friday's and saw enough to know Seattle wanted that game bad. It was a pleasure to have this site to come back to and see what the thoughts and comments were. I am heading home tomorrow and will be at the game on Sunday. Collin is coming in on Saturday and he and I will take in the game together. He promises to educate me on what I am seeing on the field. Maybe I'll just get drunk. Anyway, from a distance I have some thoughts...
I think the common lesson between the Titans game and the Seahawks game is this.. whoever controls the lines will probably win the game. When we control the offensive line, David looks good. Dirk Koetter looks brilliant. We score points. When we don't control the lines, Jack Del Rio is fired, David holds the ball too long, blah blah blah. It will be the same story each and every game.
The only thing these two games showed me was that our drafting in the last two years was directionally correct. If two of our 4 top choices performed at a top pro level right now, I think things would look different. Maybe Alan Fanaca was a better choice than trading up for number 8. The Jets are giving Mark Sanchez time to have fun. Honestly, that is our problem and the Jaguars know it and have tried to correct it.
Is coaching our problem? I have a hard time thinking Andy Heck, the offensive line coach, is doing anything wrong. I have seen what Dirk Koetter calls for plays and I don't think he is major source of problem. So maybe coaching is a problem in some areas, but in other areas our guys get whipped. It was interesting to see Miami whip the Jets defense. The Jets had painted the picture of a defense as firm as a wall. Rex Ryan had to apologize. Sometimes guys get whipped. I think on the offensive side of the ball, it isn't coaching. It isn't David. Seattle just beat us. OK, so it happens. We embarrassed the Colts a couple of years ago and they simply burned the game film and moved on.
Maurice Jones Drew sounded off his week and I read the article. I honestly don't know how I feel about that. Part of me says "Well you porky little shit" and another part of me says don't take losing too easily. I get what he is doing but I am not sure it won't wear thin as the season goes on. What is the next level? Play me or trade me? Where is MJD going with all this? I hope it doesn't become a regular occurrence. I don't know, but it gives me the impression of weakening JDR and calling out Dirk Koetter a bit. All things considered, I am a bit negative on it.
Jonathan was right in his article about Jaguar crunch time. Last year, the three game stretch was Cleveland, Cincy, Detroit. Test taken, test failed. The Jaguars face the same test stretch and Jonathan was right to call it out. Seattle, Rams, Titans.
I did read all the articles after the Titans game about how we would be 6-2 and how good we were and just shook my head and remained silent. A few of you tried to gently bring people back but most of you were having none of it. I sent Collin an email after his article last week and said "I think I know who is making the Kool Aid". The only thing I can honestly say is what I said after the first Colts game, I am still confused as to what kind of team we have. Moments of joy and moments of disappointment. The only troubling thing was the offense collapse. The defense is not going to progress as fast as the offense and so the offense must carry us. We need at least one side of the ball to be exciting.
The real question put out there this week was "who is going to LA". I think it makes a good poll question, but I know this, Wayne Weaver said they can't make it at 45,000 attendance. How much is the problem the economy in your mind? If we had knocked on the door of the Super Bowl last year, would the stadium be full? I guess the question I am asking is "Does Jacksonville still love the Jaguars?" I don't know. Tickets are available at reduced rates everywhere in town. Have I seen the last of the full stadium games?
In the "at least we are not them " catagory, there are too many teams that do not look like they are getting up off the floor this year. I have never seen a year where football is this bad in so many places. Buffalo, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Oakland. I still can't believe the Titans are winless. What happened? I think football needs to divide into two divisions. The really bad teams in one division and the really good teams in the other. All playoff teams come from the good division. The top two teams in the bad division get to play in the good division next year and the bottom two from the good division get kicked down. Everyone in the bad division has 50% of their salary taken away and given out as bonuses to the players in the good division. Any coach who spends five years in the bad division must leave NFL football for 5 years. Televised games of teams in the bad division can show commercials during the game and as many commercials as they want. There that is my solution.
OK, so to end on a happy note.... I am excited to have Collin visit and get to the stadium this weekend. Should be a fun game. First, i want to get home and see my wife. I miss her. See you at the stadium!!! Sandra, I'm coming home!!
Terry O'Brien
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Terry O' Brien
I’m going to answer your question the best way i can so here is my answer to the ticket sales problems. I think they’re 4 reasons why we are in the position this city is in today and i’m going to give them to you.
For instance, #4. reason why we are in this position is the marketing by the Jaguars organization. I just don’t understand why Wayne Weaver didn’t hold training camp at Orlando at any point during our tenure as a franchise. Also, i don’t get why players don’t go to places like Tallahassee, Orlando, and Daytona to do autograph sessions to help promote the team. We’re the least popular team in the league and part of the reason why is because this team don’t do much to promote the brand in a positive way. They should be more aggressive in promoting the team and finding creative ways to convince our fans to believe in them. In other words, they need to create a better connection between the fan and themselves.
- reason why i think the Jags are in this situation is bad timing. I’m not just talking about the economy although our unemployment rate is 11 percent and the State of Florida has the highest foreclosure rate in the U.S. I’m talking about the Florida Gators are down the road and unfortunately, they are on a successful run that was nonexistent during the 70’s and 80’s. Before we have gotten the Jaguars, 70 to 80 percents of people in this town was Florida Gator fans because that was closest we had to a professional football team. So some people in this town hold this team to the Florida Gators standards and when this team isn’t as successful as them during certain years it’s like a turn off to some of the people in this town who still holds the gators #1 in their hearts. Some people in this town also loves the Gators more than the Jags because of the perception of the colleges athletes being pure, gimmick offense and they’re playing for the love of the game and the Jags perception to some people around here are spoil millionaires, divas, and thugs which i think it’s unfair to use those types of stereotypes towards the team.
- reason why i think the Jags are in this situation is because of the fans themselves. We’re not blameless although some of us are doing our parts but others in this city are spoil, impatient, and have unrealistic expectation for this team every year. It don’t helped that in our division the colts always winning the division and going to the playoffs and people in this city wants the same success for this team. People in this city wants to associated with winners and i think some people around here has to be realistic with the fact that we aren’t going to have a winning record every year. We need more loyal fans in this city and not people who flip flop because it’s not helping this team long term.
- reason why i think the jags are in this situation is because of the Jags management. Personally, i’m tired of the people in this city taking the negative hits when since 1999, we had 2 playoff appearance in 10 years and 1 playoff win. It also doesn’t help that at times this team plays unprepared and uninspired at times to the point that just when the jags gets a little momentum going and people wants to jump back on the bandwagon, they lose to an inferior team and therefore, they get ****** off. Also, during the Shack Harris era, not only we draft and brought in free agent bust but some of those players have given this city a negative image by using bad judgment and therefore, put a bad taste in some people’s mouth. Also, not anyone on this team besides MJD who isn’t a big star, don’t have nationwide star power who would command the dollars of blue collar town. We don’t have a Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Larry Fitzgerald, Ray Lewis, or Drew Brees who would command a must see in person persona about them. We don’t have someone who dominates ESPN headlines in a good way nor command the attention where they need to be on national T.V. aka Brett Farve. In addition, except for the Tennessee and houston game this year, this offense hasn’t been exciting and joyful to watch so therefore, some of those same people would rather spend their money elsewhere instead of on this team.
I’m sorry for my explanation being so long but i had to give you reason from my point of view. You might disagree or poke holes in my argument but i’m giving you my reason base on my observation of the relationship between the team and the city of Jacksonville.
by leopold332002 on Oct 15, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I want to say is...
thank you for taking the time to compose this response. I enjoyed reading it.
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by Tkopa on Oct 15, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the biggest response i've ever seen
Props to you man, I don’t have enough words in my vocabulary to write that.
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by TheTealDeal on Oct 15, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
All VERY good points! I’d like to add that it does seem like the Jaguars are doing a great job this year in promoting the brand… though I’m unsure if it’s because of the amount of unsold tickets or a turnaround in the marketing department. Jaguars are hitting a ton of segments and I’ve done things such as having ads on billboards, NFL.com, and PFT.com… to giving Jaguars.com a facelift and hitting social media sites such as Facebook. Way things are going… even though they did start a bit late, is heading in a direction where we may see all of the things Leo suggested starting next year and I like it!
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by JagsNguyen on Oct 15, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle is special circumstances
The real 3 game test is StL, Tenn, and KC.
by FSBlueApocalypse on Oct 15, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I think that is this years Cleveland; Cincy; Detroit trio. Seattle is a not bad team, They could beat maybe the 80-85% of the league with the way they played in last sunday.
The upcoming 3 teeams has the same(Chiefs) or worse situation(Rams and yes the Titans)like the Jaguars. A 1-2 result would be inexcusable in my opinion, even from a rebuilding team. Maybe the 2-1 either…
Maurice-This weeks statement is ok with me, if he would stop for this season. He is the franchise player, he is a leader, he must act like that, and one more comment like this weeks is surely not helping on us.
Terry your 2 division idea is very interesting-but to be honest with you, if that salary cap thing gone, I think the league will heading to be a 2 division leageu-and I mean not the AFC and the NFC-but the have’s and the haven’t ones (I mean money sadly)
But all I focusing is the Rams game and I hope when it will ends, there will be less or no more bad taste in our mouth, which is the case after what happened in Seattle…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 16, 2009 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I was making some koolaid to be honest
I will sit in silence from now on. My emotions ride the rollercoaster with this team. It’s ridiculous.
by Blair72 on Oct 16, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your silence would be similar big mistake
then was my error on last Sundy with the Battleteal T-shirt (Ok my was worse, much worse…).
I agree with OGN, you are passionate about the jags, you need to share it with us. I always open to everyone’s opinion, but you Blair os my “special to watch” list. So don’t mute yourself. If all goes right Sunday will be a happy one.
Don’t go to exile, my friend. BCC needs personalities like you biiiiig way!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 16, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs


















