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Owen Daniels - The best tight end in the AFC ?


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Player Team G Rec Yds Yds/G Lng Avg TDs 20+ 40+
Heath Miller PIT 7 40 353 50.4 25 8.8 4 1 0
Owen Daniels HOU 7 39 497 71.0 44 12.7 5 7 2
Dallas Clark IND 6 38 485 80.8 80 12.8 3 6 2
Antonio Gates SD 6 34 474 79.0 37 13.9 2 8 0

 

     I know I'm a homer, so just wanted to get some other opinions about who has been the best tight end in the AFC this season.  And I am just talking about this season, wasn't comparing career stats on these guys.  Colts fans were going to ban me for voicing this argument on their blog, so I decided to make my first fanpost on BRB.  Also posting on the Jags blog to get input from a division rival.

Poll
Who has been the best tight end in the AFC this season ?
Antonio Gates
4 votes
Owen Daniels
23 votes
Dallas Clark
26 votes
Heath Miller
1 votes

54 votes | Poll has closed

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I can't argue with the Clark supporters.

Just thought OD needs to be mentioned as a top tier tight end. Mercedes is pretty good too, he tore me up on Madden.

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by CFHTim on Oct 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Marcedes

has the greatest upside of them all. And probably the best blocker excluding maybe Heath Miller.

by Ewdtrey on Oct 27, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Lewis.

And I would expect his numbers to compare with these four, if he had a top tier QB throwing him the ball.

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by CFHTim on Oct 27, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah...but he is a subtle troll...

We’ve been enjoying his presence over at Stampede Blue for a while now. It almost makes me wish we had an 0-6 record so he would just move along…

by peytonsurdaddy on Oct 27, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

.....

why is this on the jaguars site

by jlana24 on Oct 27, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Wanted to get an un biased opinion.

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by CFHTim on Oct 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ongoing battle vs Colt Fans?

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 27, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say who's the best If these gentleman

would produce the same numbers with David as QB

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a really difficult decision between Clark and Daniels

As to who is better right now. But if I could have either one on the Jaguars, obviously it would be Daniels simply because of the age factor.

by Adam Stites on Oct 27, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I personally like Dallas Clark better,

He’s on my fantasy team and i like how he plays as like a TE/WR hybrid. You can make the arguement for either of them tho.

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 27, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright, let's do this right...

1. As already stated by everyone above with a brain, you are NOT going to get unbiased results by polling teams whose tight end is in the polling.
(Ex.: "So-And-So is obviously the best TE in football because he plays for my team and since I am a winner and I only back winners, then by the Transitive Property So-And-So is a winner and is therefore the winner of this poll.")

2. You are not going to get unbiased opinions from teams who are in the same division as any of the candidates in this poll.
(Ex. 1: "I hate So-And-So’s guts because he plays for our division rivals and always makes our defense look like a pack of drunken hillbillies stumbling around in the dark looking for their lost coon-hound ‘Cletus’, therefore, I would sooner set my ass-hair on fire than vote for him.
Ex. 2: "So-And-So, our division rivals TE, regularly beats on us like orphans at a Catholic monastery, and since I know we’re awesome then the only logical explanation is that he is the best fucking TE to ever walk in cleats. He gets my face-saving vote.")

3. You are not going to get an unbiased opinion from inter-division rivals either, such as between the Colts and the Pats or the Steelers and the Pats, for much the same reasons as stated in point #2.
(Ex.: Pats Fan: "Gawd, I hate those douchebag Colts and Stealers! They’s always a takin’ what is rightfully owas’ as the best fans in the facking universe! I would rather stick my cawk in a gawdamn wood-chippa’ than vote for they’ra guy!")

4. You’re not going to get an informed opinion from any NFC fans do to lack of familiarity with the candidates.
(Ex.: NFC Fan #1: "Hey, who do you think the best TE in the AFC is, buddy?"
         NFC Fan #2: "What the hell is the AFC?")

Conclusion: Poll the remaining AFC East teams (Bills, Jets, Dolphins). They have little-to-no dog in this fight and would be the closest thing you’re going to get to an unbiased and informed opinion. Hell, we’ll even give you the Pats. Go ahead and ask ‘em.
To make it truly fair, though, you need to change that Coltsbanishment crap in the body.
Unless, that is, you’re afraid of a fair fight?

by peytonsurdaddy on Oct 27, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

that a little trollish

We have a unbiased opinion actually since we play both of you twice a year. So it would be fine to ask for an opinion from someone who is in neither camp. I’m sad to say this but I think Dallas Clark is better, but if you want to discount our opinions, go ahead. Troll on.

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 27, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You misunderstand...

I wasn’t trying to “troll” up on you guys. I was trying to determine the least biased location for a poll like this while adding a bit of humor to my comment. I can’t really see how you were offended by this, but if you were, my apologies…

by peytonsurdaddy on Oct 27, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its alright

Just a small misunderstanding. Tho i’d think any opinion other that SD, INDY, HOU, or PITTS fans would be acceptable.

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 28, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daniels is Top Tier

but I don’t know about the best. It’s a matter of preference I suppose. I chose Miller for the fact he’s a good run blocker and he’s a pretty decent option in the passing game.

Daniels has gotten a lot better in the blocking area, but he’s still behind Miller in that department.

Ignore the hype; look at the results.

by harperslaw on Oct 27, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm Pretty Sure

I’m gonna have to go with Antonio Gates. He doesn’t have the top numbers out of the group, but he does have the most explosive plays. Plus, career wise, he rules all of these players. Antonio it is

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by Bestjagfan on Oct 27, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

My problem

with Gates is that he’s used almost exclusively as a receiver. Clark and Daniels both block more than Gates, or have in the past. Miller however is a proven all around TE.

by Ewdtrey on Oct 28, 2009 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Daniels tries to block, but I get what you’re saying. Above people were talking of their receiving numbers, in which Gates is the best excluding Tony Gonzalez. Miller is the best blocker out of the group, no doubt… and not a bad receiver.

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by Bestjagfan on Oct 28, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder

how good a receiver Miller really is. He just isn’t givin the chances the other guys are.

by Ewdtrey on Oct 29, 2009 5:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's Got

Great hands and is a good route runner. I don’t think he has as much speed as Daniels and definitely not as much as Gates. But he is too often kept in to block, like you said.

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by Bestjagfan on Nov 1, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if it's just me

but Clark and Daniels both look faster in games than Antonio Gates.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 1, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Gates

Is bigger I believe, so he may look slower. Clark is fast, but he has nowhere near Gates’ quickness when breaking in and out of routes.

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by Bestjagfan on Nov 1, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

blocking... it counts even for recieving ends!

No doubt OD is exciting, but I’ve watched him closely vs. the browns last year and Owen Daniels was the worst player on the field. It was actually comical once I pointed it out to my friends and we started watching him get bounced around. He was individually responsible for what seemed like a dozen blown plays for losses and couldn’t even stop guys from going across the field to run down a play.

I actually thought there was some mistake and they had some other guy wearing 81… I really did!

Dallas Clark may not inspire anyone with his blocking, but he mixes it up a bit and slows people down when he needs to. He’s tougher than you think; it’s just that his line doesn’t need him. That along puts him a couple of levels above OD in my books… and although it’s a dreaded NFC comparison, he’s about a dozen steps below Witten.

For what it’s worth I saw OD actually block on a running TD in the SF game, so maybe he’s getting better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF0amv_MrGc#t=0m09s

by alsonot on Oct 27, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Daniels

Yeah, he gets pushed around a lot in run blocking. I remember watching a game last season where he was on the other side of a stretch play. He got beat by his man so fast, he chased the play down from behind across the field.

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by Bestjagfan on Oct 27, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's improved

a lot this year IMO, but he does have some ugly moments.

by Ewdtrey on Oct 28, 2009 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree on both points. I think this is a large function of being a converted QB. I expect him to continue to get better every year with his work ethic.

by nolander on Oct 28, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

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