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The Return of the 4-3 Defense, Series by Series: First-Half

 

Rather than just give my overall observations of the defense's play, I figured I would try something new, and go series by series on defense and give my evaluations in real-time (or real Tivo-time). This requires me watching each play numerous times, and as a result is very time-consuming, so unless the response is overwhelmingly positive, this may be the last time I do it in this style. Let me know what you think of the format in the comments, and recommend it if you like it.... Here we go...

KC first possession - Bad Podlesh punt, Chiefs take over on own 43 yard line.

Lots of movement defensively before the snap. Harvey and Groves are our every down DE's.

Cox is a tackling machine, and rarely seems to miss anything he gets his hands on.

KC is clearly targeting Groves side. Groves should've been in position to stop the short flare pass to the RB, but was out of position.

Derrick Harvey is blowing the RT off the line and is a force in the run game.

KC runs toward Groves, and he was easily pushed aside. He's not an every down DE.

KC runs a toss to Groves side, and he whiffed on the tackle in the backfield.

KC gets a field goal

Second KC possession

Incomplete pass on first down thanks to pressure by Groves. He's clearly a DPR trying to play every down.

Short slant pass, incomplete again. Harvey almost got to the QB despite the quick pass.

Henderson and Knighton are the reason KC has yet to even attempt to run up the middle. They are absolutely mauling KC's guards and Center, it's not even fair. Keep in mind, KC led the league up to this point in runs up the gut, so the fact they're shying away from it is very telling.

3rd and 10, the Jaguars return to the 3-4 defense with Groves roaming and blitzing from the LDE with his hand off the ground. Knighton drops into zone coverage, Daryl Smith blitzes and almost get to Cassel who rushes the pass, but completes it. It's clear they want to feature Daryl Smith in a pass rushing role, but I don't like switching back and forth. 5 yard gain, Reggie Nelson makes what appears to be a tackle, and by himself no less!

Jaguars did well to hold to three-and-out. Our defensive line is dominating at this point up the middle, and Harvey is owning his man, he really is playing very well, and when Del Rio said he's a force in the run, he wasn't kidding. Since blowing up the RT early on when they ran to his side, they have run exclusively to the left. Still no runs up the middle either.

KC third possession

1st down, lined up in the 4-3, very little movement before the snap. Offensive man in motion, but the defense makes no adjustment, the Jags are apparently in zone coverage. Right at the snap, Daryl and Gerald both release and hit the line's right side. KC had called a run left, to Harvey's side. Nothing doing, as Harvey easily stood his man up and assisted on the tackle . Bryan Smith (#53) was in for Groves, and boy is he fast. He was unblocked due to the overload blitz with Daryl and Gerald, and actually caught the back from behind when he hit the Jags' stout line. Our run defense is substantially better in the 4-3, and Harvey, Knighton, and Henderson are going to prove tough for any team to run against.

2nd and 8 KC is in the shotgun. KC runs a WR bubble screen. Knighton recognizes the linemen's attempt to disguise the screen immediately, and even though the play didn't go towards him, the fact he recognized it so quickly is encouraging. Bryan Smith is still in for Groves, and could have made a play had he been in better position. Clint Ingram easily shed the block of the other WR and made the tackle. 

3rd and three, KC in the Shotgun. Ellison, Knighton, Harvey, and B.Smith are on the line. Run to the HB from the shotgun up the middle. barely two yards gained, and the Jaguars were clearly playing pass. Our run defense looks stout. 

Three-and-out again. Nice work Team

KC's fourth possession ball on their 30 yard line. Single back set. Groves back in for B. Smith, they appear to be rotating them each series, we'll see who wins what is evidently a position battle. Ingram and Smith blitzed on that play, it was well picked up by KC, but the wide open TE dropped the pass on the drag pattern. Cox would've blown him up had he caught it though. 

2nd and 10. Julius Williams is in for Harvey. KC runs at Williams side, he is blown back in a one-on-one battle. Daryl Smith was on that side as well, and was easily blocked.

3rd and 6, KC in the shotgun. John Henderson and Montavius Stanley run a stunt and Henderson should've had a sack. It was vintage Hen, as he totally tossed the offensive lineman aside and dove at Cassel's feet. Julius Williams stayed in for Harvey on that play, and brought some pressure. He is possibly our fastest DE, at least from watching today's film.

Three-and-out again. Nice work Team

Torry Holt fumbles. 

Fifth KC possession at Jaguars 20. Groves is in again, and Harvey has returned. Knighton and Henderson are the DTs. KC is in the offset I-formation. KC runs towards Quentin's side, and he is easily pushed aside. KC is exposing a weakness here that is concerning... Only one DE capable of stopping the run. Gerald Alexander can hit, and made the tackle, while ringing his own bell.

1st and goal from the nine. KC runs a screen pass that fools everyone but Knighton and Durant, who both combine to make the stop. I am very impressed with Knighton and his grasp of the mental aspects of the game. That's a Temple education for you, though. 

2nd and goal from the five. Single-back set. Cassel throws a rope which Reggie Nelson promptly rips out. Is this the same player we saw a week ago?!?

3rd and goal, KC in the shotgun from our 4. That should tell you how badly our line is owning theirs. KC runs out of the shotgun formation, and let me tell you, Terrence Knighton just absolutely wrecked KC's center and made the tackle. Groves was easily pushed aside. Although the ball wasn't run his way, I saw Gerald Alexander blitz to Groves side. It is so very clear that the Jaguars are having to compensate for Groves inability to hold up in the run game. A better team will exploit us, and every blitz can't come from Groves' side, it just won't work. That being said, the Jaguars held again and stopped KC from finding the endzone. 

KC's sixth possession 

Quick sideline pattern, but Mathis makes the tackle in bounds. 

2nd and 3 - Harvey drops into Zone coverage, and sniffs out the screen, he's held by the offensive lineman, but no flag, and Harvey still makes it to the tackle after a gain of 6. 

1st down and 10. KC in shotgun. B. Smith is easily blocked to the inside, Harvey is ridden down outside in what could be considered a hold, although it wasn't blatent. Cassel had a man, but overthrew him.

2nd and 10. KC in the shotgun. Harvey drives his man into Cassel, forcing him to roll-out. Cassel finds a man on the sideline who scampers up to the Jaguars 38 yard-line. It was encouraging to see Harvey overpower his man so forcefully. A solid bull-rush is a necessary component to any successful DE's repertoire. 

1st and 10. KC in the shotgun. Jacksonville in the 3-4 defense. Harvey just pancaked the RT and cut inside the RB to force the early and errent throw. Derrick Harvey is looking like Reggie Hayward. He's absolutely owning on almost every play, bring pressure against the pass, and blowing up run plays. Using both speed and power, he's been stellar, and the eyes don't lie. Iwuh was in as the fourth LB in the 3-4 front. 

2nd and 10. KC in the shotgun. Jaguars in the 3-4 with Groves and Harvey as the DE's. Harvey is double-teamed and Cassel rolls out and throws incomplete. Not much beef on the line of scrimmage there. 

KC misses the FG, end of the half.

Notes: Where is Derek Landri?!? I haven't seen him in for one play this entire half. Derrick Harvey is clearly better with his hand on the ground in both the run and the pass. Terrence Knighton looks like a younger John Henderson, and plays with exceptional balence and intensity. Gerald Alexander is playing the SS position well, and Reggie Nelson looks like a different player. Can he continue to play this well each week? 

If you like this format, please let me know and comment, because this is substantially more time consuming, and unless there is an extremely positive response, I doubt I'll do this again. Let me know your thoughts.

-Collin Streetman

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Thanks for the hard work on this post

Excellent analysis through and through. It’s clear that this team has a lot of pieces in place, but the DE spot opposite Harvey is the biggest weakness on the defense.

It’s easy to game plan against a defense with a hole in it.

by Adam Stites on Nov 10, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Right you are, and unless we can somehow manufacture another every down DE, we'll get exposed.

Not Groves, Bryan Smith, or Julius Williams are run stopping DE’s.

Reggie Hayward really was irreplaceable.

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by silencecs on Nov 10, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw Julius

get jacked up in that game, but he usually is much better in the run game. I expect him to bounce back in that aspect, but he will never be a good pass rusher. He’s got quick feet that make him look faster than he really is, but he’s only about 6’ making his strides shorter than everyone elses.
Groves when playing aggressively has a really good bull rush, but when sitting back he easily gets blown off the ball. If we can get him to play in more of an attack role he can play on more downs, because he has plenty of strength. He just doesn’t have a lot of mass or a great anchor to make up for it.
Bryan Smith has the best first step on the defensive 7 man front. You can see that in his college film. But he’s weaker than Groves or even Ingram.
Anyhow, except for the things I mentioned this is very indicative of what I’ve been seeing all season.
And you’re right on about Hayward. I really think this could be a really good defense if we had another healthy Hayward.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 10, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by silencecs on Nov 10, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

A new D Line Coach is on the Christmas List

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by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Jullius

Is actually more of a run stopper in my opinion. Like you said he is never going to be a great pass rusher. I remember in those training camp oklahoma drills he was immovable in a run blocking simulated drill.

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by Bestjagfan on Nov 10, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

GREAT GREAT GREAT WORK.....

Apprecieate the Effort….

And it really is an entertaining, illustrative way of analyzing defenisve play.

Just a Note……
I think Landri was inactive for the game due to an injury……

by jaxjags.. on Nov 10, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

Oh and I think that...

In the play where Nelson batted the pass in the End Zone……. eventhough it´s encouraging to see him making that kind of plays he had a loooot of luck, cause the Wr was open way before and Cassell took too much time recognizing that and throwing the ball, that time gave Nelson a chance to recover his position and reach in for the ball.

But I did see a couple of GOOD tackles of his own that surprised me.

Alexander played real nice, and he closes very aggresivley into the line when blitzing or disguizing a blitz.

by jaxjags.. on Nov 10, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Right on about Alexander. He seems to be a solid blitzer and tackler.

As long as Nelson can continue to tackle, we’ll be ok. If he has another game like he did againt the Titans, we’re in trouble

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by silencecs on Nov 10, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't

go as far as to say that Alexander is a good tackler. He’s a good hitter and he did tackle well against the Chiefs, but he’s not great at wrapping up regularly. I believe Considine is actually a better tackler and more in position regularly, but Alexander is a better blizter and he has better hands.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 10, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

he knocked the ball away from Derek Cox, who would of intercepted it.

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by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I hated the play as much as the next guy

but you can’t expect him to see behind him. Ideally you want that to be a pick, but you can’t blame for trying to make a play. If Derek wasn’t there, it’s a great play.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 12, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Very good idea

It is very good to see what our 4-3 did in the first half. Thanks Collin!

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 10, 2009 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

+1

I’m glad to see that people other than the coaching staff recognize what Harvey brings to the team. Just about everybody, including Vic, thinks Harvey is sucking huge because he isn’t on the stat sheet.

by KeithG on Nov 11, 2009 3:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent

This was a really informative, interesting feature. I really enjoyed reading this a great deal. I love this type of analysis, it’s a good step ahead of what I view on my own — I am following the ball, as a fan, so I never get to see individual blocking and defensive assignments. Great stuff. I really appreciate the time you took to do this, and signed up for an account here just so I could comment and encourage more.

by Jim09 on Nov 10, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks brother.... Just for you, expect the second half Thursday... ;)

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by silencecs on Nov 10, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Great job Collin

I love reading stuff like this.

Someone else already pointed out that Landri was inactive due to injury. When healthy, Do you think they might try to substitute him in occasionally for Groves on running downs?

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Nov 10, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

At DE?

If so, that’s what I’ve been hoping for. But as of right now, he looks like he is dogged by an injury/added weight. Considering the extra DT’s we have now, I wouldn’t be apposed making Landri lose some weight and become DT/DE hybrid. Gotta get him out there IMO. He’s got a really good first step, and he’s the only player we have with a good spin move. That could be really useful as a change of pace move as our front is really bland on moves as of right now.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 10, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm... Landri at DE... Maybe, it definitely would improve the run defense.

I would be all for Landri in on running downs and Groves relegated to a DPR position.

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by silencecs on Nov 10, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Shoot

we’ve had Ellison out there on run downs and he isn’t that pass rusher that Landri is.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 10, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Great

Do continue.

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by viator on Nov 10, 2009 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

Keep an eye on

Montavious Stanley. He always seems to collapse the pocket. And it seems like every 8 plays or so that he plays, he tips a pass.
Ellison to me doesn’t really have a role. He can’t run stuff as well as any of the other active DT’s. And he’s not the pass rusher that Henderson or Landri are.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 10, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Landri's problem

at DE isn’t anything other than his range in the run game IMO.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 10, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched Stanley and on the play that Hen almost got a sack, He and stanley ran a Stunt, and Stanley took on the double-team and held his ground while Henderson rolled around him.

Stanley has found a role as a substitute DT, and there is virtually no drop-off in play when he’s in the line-up. I’ll agree that Ellison is a true 3-4 DE, and doesn’t seem to fit the DT position as well. I will say that both have been pleasant surprises, as I didn’t expect either to be the force they have been against the run.

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by silencecs on Nov 10, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

This is terrific Collin

Thank you so much for the effort. Very encouraging to read your perspective on the strong play of Harvey. If he is solid, with Knighton and Big John in the middle, with Mathis and Cox, we just need to be concerned about safety play and the other DE. I think Julius Williams has potential if he hits the weight room, and hopefully we’ll get Reggie back next year.

Great work.

by ruffdaddy on Nov 10, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

We'll have to re-sign Hayward, as his contract is up.

We definitely need another DE, and it was evident that one of our DE’s is a weak-spot. I expect the Jets to exploit that weakness on Sunday.
They will run the ball likely close to 40 times if they can. If the Jaguars hold them to under 30 rushing attempts, we win the game barring any unforeseen turnovers or mistakes, because that mean’s we got their offense off the field.
We’ve got to do something about stopping the run this week again. The Jets are a much better running team than the abhorrent Chiefs.

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by silencecs on Nov 10, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing that makes me feel

more comfortable about stopping the Jet’s run game is that they don’t have a Chris Johnson and we wont have Russell Allen trying to stop it.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 10, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah Heyward (and Ingram)

are must-resign FAs in the upcoming offseason.
I expect Gene will draft 1 or 2 passrushers next yyear (If we not picking TT; I expect that the 1st round draftchoice will most liely be a DE(Of course I know we are now on BAP)
I would sign a veteran solid FA passrusher in the offseason too

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 11, 2009 3:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think

either is a must-resign. But as cheap as they will probably be, they will probably be resigned. We have good depth at LB so Ingram may not be as important. As for Hayward, he may be replaced by someone else.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 11, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ingram is a must resign player

He is young; good; hard hitter. He needs to be keep here!
Hayward-If there will be no REAL passrushers coming next year we MUST keep him too. Bryan Smith as a starting DE tells all how the position is looking right now….

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 11, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmm... topic of discussion tonight...

Of all our LB’s ingram is clearly the weakest. He’s a hard hitter, but isn’t overly fantastic. He’s a greeat locker-room presence though, and could start full time for a number of teams. This is a contract year and he’ll want to be paid this offseason. We could always tender him, as he’ll have under six accrued seasons and we’ll be in an uncapped year, so he’ll be a restricted free agent.

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by silencecs on Nov 11, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

If he plays like that Collin

the Jaguars can easily resign him. Yeah he have a little down year; but he is a very good LB; and if Durant and Daryl Smith plays the way they play-I think Ingram can be that 3rd guy there too.
But I repeat myself he is the most importnat guy to resign from the 2010 Fas (and by the way the Jags might can resign one-two 2011 FAs in the next offseason-causein 2011 there will be a bunch of core key player contract will expire!!!!: Durant; MSW; Uche Nwaneri, Marcedes Lewis )

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 11, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Ingram

and he might be favorite LB, even though I think Durant is the best and Smith is second. However, with players like Iwuh and Allen waiting in the wings, it’s not a huge need to resign Ingram. I’d like to resign him, but I wouldn’t doubt Gene Smith’s ability to draft someone even better, younger, and cheaper. With all that “GM” talk aside, I’d still really like to see him resigned for the moral aspect as wells as his overall play on the field.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 12, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

We will see

The guys on the BCC radio (To be exact john) suggested; that Gene must give Ingram a 2nd round tender; and if someone what him; give us a second round; if noone wants him on that price sign him …Win-win deal in my opinion

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 12, 2009 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That's what I would do

but it may not be what Gene does. He may think the grass is greener on the other side.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 12, 2009 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Of the 2011 guys

I would resign all of them. Durant and MSW are big playmakers. Uche is on the up and up. Marcedes is the only blocking TE we have, and he’s improved every year he’s been here. Once the rookie tackles get going I expect Lewis to take another step forward on the stat sheet. He’ll probably be cheap too. On that note, MSW might get a little expensive by then. I wouldn’t be all that surprised to see him leave in FA, probably garnering us a pretty good compensatory pick in the process. Remember, WR’s are a dime a dozen; especially with Gene Smith acquiring them. haha

by Ewdtrey on Nov 12, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

As much as I want to agree with you on principle,

It took the Jaguars this long to find a true WR like MSW. I’d be very hesitant to let a sure thing go like that, especially after all the patience it took to let him recover from his major injuries.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Nov 12, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I would really really

hate to see him go, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him leave either through a trade or through FA. But I also don’t doubt Gene’s ability to replace him with whatever pick we get for him.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 12, 2009 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

We need sign 1-2 among these guys next year.

I don’t wanna lose Durant soo him might can get a new contract. Uche too he is a young guard; we need him.
MSW must prove himself a bit more (that he can stay healthy)

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 12, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Original Content!!

This is what people come to BCC for. I get tired of reading a rehashing of old stuff, it takes time to write original material. Thanks for the time.

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by Tkopa on Nov 10, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Great Post.

I feel like I saw those series after reading that. I am not a Chief fan by any means, but I feel bad for Matt Cassel. Reminds me of watching a young Mr. Mittens, having the confidence beat out of him, game after game.

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by CFHTim on Nov 10, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

I really

don’t think any QB could succeed in that situation. The OL just sucks balls. But in either case I don’t think Cassell is the guy anyhow. He looks like he’s been hit too many times now. I’m surprised Garrard held up so well after last years beating. I definitely think he doesn’t get enough credit for playing with that lack of an OL last year.
Todd Haley is a good coach but he doesn’t fit the personnel. Or more like he doesn’t have the right personnel to fit his offense(scheme).

by Ewdtrey on Nov 11, 2009 3:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Great piece

Keep it up!

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by thatdamnLovett on Nov 10, 2009 11:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

When able do this again

great article lots of trsearch and information THANK YOU

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by ARMJAG on Nov 11, 2009 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

EXCELLENT POST!

And this was only the first half? Will there be a 2nd half post? Only reason behind not seeing Landri is still recovering from an injury… I think he was listed as out during the Titans game.

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by JagsNguyen on Nov 11, 2009 7:28 AM EST reply actions  

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