Post Game Thoughts: I'll take it
by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 15, 2009 5:44 PM EST
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First off, I would like to thank John and the rest of the guys at Gang Green Nation for coming over and being so classy all week.
The Jaguars have often been called the most consistently inconsistent team in the NFL. Up one week and down the next. This time, they decided to trump that and go schizo in the process of one game. The Jaguars came out in the first half and took it to the Jets second ranked defense. Pounding away with Maurice Jones-Drew and then giving David Garrard time, the Jaguars stupefied defensive genius Rex Ryan.
However, in the second half, Ryan made a few adjustments that tipped the scales in his favor. Having Darrell Revis stick on Mike Sims-Walker was the first adjustment. The other was having his defense sellout to stop Jones-Drew. That combination managed to limit the Jaguars to just 18 yards of offense in the first 26 minutes of the second half. However, the Jaguars managed to rekindle the offense for a final drive that saw this team's best crunch time performance since the 2007 playoff win at Pittsburgh.
Offensively, I'm of two minds right now. I give Dirk Koetter a lot of credit for coming in with a solid gameplan that got the Jaguars up to a 21-10 half time lead. However, his refusal to adjust when the Jets clearly had it figured out is troubling. However, all in all I believe he did a good job.
Maurice Jones-Drew continues to show how important he is to this team. Jones-Drew had 91 yards going into halftime, only to be stopped consistently in the 2nd. Also, Mike Sims-Walker's forced absense showed how much he is a key to the offense. The fact Revis so totally shut him down shows he still has a ways to go before joining the upper tier of wide receivers.
The fumble at the goal line almost cost the Jaguars their season and is yet another bad red zone play in a season full of bad red zone plays. Expect more on that in this week's Comcast article.
Defensively, I genuinely liked what I saw from this team. I'll go so far as to say I think this was the best 60 minutes they've played all year. Until exhaustion creeped in during the 4th quarter, they were playing lights out and forcing mistakes.
The defense held the #1 rushing unit in football 60 yards below their season average. The Jaguars also held the Jets to a season low 3.8 yards per rush. If this isn't an indication the 4-3 is here to stay, I don't know what is.
Watching Mark Sanchez today, I thought about the first time the Jaguars went against Vince Young. Young was flat out horrible that game and convinced me he was never going to be an effective Pro QB. I don't get that feeling from Sanchez. He's learning on the job and makes plenty of mistakes, but he seems like he has the head and arm to be a Pro QB.
Congratulations go out to Rashean Mathis. His interception to start the ball game set the franchise record with 28 career INTs. H/T to Vic for pointing that out.
Also a shout out to Sean Considine. He played easily his best game as a Jagaurs delivering a few big hits to knock balls out and was a sure tackler today.
Whether or not you agree with Maurice Jones-Drew's decision to kneel at the one, I think it showed a great football acumen and how unselfish he is.
Jarrett Dillard's season ending injury is certainly a blow for this team. Perhaps this means Nate Hughes will get a second chance.
This was a game neither team seemingly wanted to win until the very end, with plenty of mistakes on both sides. However, the Jaguars got a big road win against a wild card competitor, and that is all that matters.
-Jonathan Loesche
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it must be acknowledged that Baby Holt is
out for the rest of the year. A major bummer but we knew some rooks were going to get hurt. Tiquan, heres your time to shine.
by harveyismyboy on Nov 15, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sunshine is acoming.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 15, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tiquan
Needs to step up to give him a locked shot at making the roster next season.
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 15, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Expect Nate Hughes to come off the PS as well
It’s going to be a battle each week during practice and the winner will be the one who is activated on game day.
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by JagsNguyen on Nov 15, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Thinking
Tiquan after Nate Hughes proved how good of a red zone receiver he is.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
by Bestjagfan on Nov 15, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking
Nate considering he made the team at the start of the season, and because he more resembles the type of player that Dillard was.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 15, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Revis
The fact he shut down Sims-Walker really isn’t troubling to me. He had pressure on his side for most of the time he was responsible for Walker, and Revis is the same guy who shut down Randy Moss earlier this season. He is right up there challenging Asomugha for the title of best corner in the NFL
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 15, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think as of right now
he is better than Asomougha
by Ewdtrey on Nov 15, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can actually say I predicted this upset
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2009/8/21/995574/looking-forward-to-this-season-i-am
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 15, 2009 6:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic summary John.
Until you wrote this i posted my explanation of my bold “before game predection” here
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2009/11/15/1158616/explanation-of-my-bold-prediction
Feel free to discuss/ distroy /oppose/ back it!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
my prediction was 7-9
I think we may get over it.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 15, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please you (and everyone)
Share the thougzts of my bold prediction piece at the fanpost section!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
like the title says… I’ll take it
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by cuffs007 on Nov 15, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
MJD is on the front page of Si.com
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don Banks liked MJD performance on the 1 yard line
but he piss to the cake with that statement in the end:
But don’t worry Jaguars fans, it’s still a long shot that you’d have a playoff home game to get blacked out.
Well Don; I think there will games this year which will be NOT blacked out!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, it's still a long shot for the Colts game to get televised. I'll be happy if we manage to get 50K vs the Bills
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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 15, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the locals don't fill the stadium after a GREAT victory like that
I’ll be VERY disapointed. What else they want from this team???
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Consistency
This problem isn’t going to get fixed over night but within due time if they continue to display a great product the fans win be back.
by leopold332002 on Nov 15, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you think that was a cheap shot?
Al Micheals before the Colts-Pats game was talking to his pro-Rams commentator and Said “Well my hometown doesn’t have a team, but maybe one day we will. Hey maybe your Rams will come” Burn.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 15, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i hope as long as my Jags are still in Duval i can care less about another person's team.
by leopold332002 on Nov 15, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1 to Leopold's comment
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 16, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
THANK YOU JAGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Mosul_DolFan on Nov 15, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
lol
Floridian Teams must help each other out sometimes.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 15, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great game to watch
But I still wish we would run it outside more often and throw a pitch or two into our game plan. It seems like we ran it up the gut like clock work even when it stopped working and they stacked the box. Thankfully MJD can move piles, but I’d love to see him in more one on one situations.
by Jags-Fan-In-Chicago on Nov 16, 2009 12:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I was thinking the same thing
but 5 things come to mind when thinking about why not.
1. We really didn’t run much after we started getting stopped.
2. They were zone blitzing, meaning they would probably go for losses if we tried them.
3. Running to the outside reduces the effectiveness of playaction, which we really needed.(Huge reason)
4. Our WR’s aren’t like our receivers of past years. Yes they can catch, but they are also not the blockers the old ones used to be.
5. We only had one blocking TE which makes harder to block on the edges.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 16, 2009 3:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta Make Adjustments
To be successful in the NFL you have to make in-game adjustments. Just watch the top teams in the league. Drive to drive they are constantly looking at pictures and making adjustments. I did not see Dirk Koetter make ANY adjustments from the first to the second half. That scares me and we are lucky to leave the Meadowlands with a W.
by jagshomer on Nov 16, 2009 1:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
He made adjustments
just don’t think everyone notices them, and they weren’t necessarily executed either.
Threw to the TE’s a little more. Kept Garrard back in the pocket. Threw in a couple more slant passes.
It’s hard to make adjustments too when you’re 3 and out. Gotta have time on the field to feel out what the other team is doing. Also keep in mind the rookies may be limited with the playbook, to an extent
by Ewdtrey on Nov 16, 2009 3:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone
Always finds a way to insult Dirk, Jack, or David G. Just take the win man. Damn
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-Akrobatik
by Bestjagfan on Nov 16, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some thoughts on the game
As much as I think that JDR is not the guy – I have to say that I liked his calls 1) surprise onside kick – even though it didn’t hit, I liked the call. It was poorly executed – Scobee needs to flatten that kick out better. 2) going for it on 4th down – it did hit, but either way it was the right call. 3) instructing MJD to NOT score. I’m usually a get the score guy – but in this instance I was really hoping for a 1st down to bleed out the clock. There is NO WAY I trust any Defense that can’t get to the QB – just remove them entirely from the equation and let your special teams execute an “extra point” FG for the win.
Other thoughts – I wasn’t happy that we left 10 points on the field – GOT TO FINISH.
Reggie Nelson – was in better position for this game – but still “tackles” like a complete pussy - I KNOW someone out there saw the same play I’m referring to and knows exactly what I’m saying here.
We had to get off to a fast start and we did on BOTH sides of the ball. D got a turnover right away and O stuck it in the end zone. This also helped to settle David and he had a good game.
LOVED the fact that the O executed on the final drive to overcome and win. They also bled out the clock – if we had scored to soon – I believe we would have ended up losing that game. Way to execute the “5 Minute” offense".
I am really “falling in love” with Mike Thomas. This kid just makes plays when called upon and delivers. He needs more touches IMO.
Dillard – bummer losing this guy for the season – rehap and get back for 2010 young man – you’re a keeper.
by OGN on Nov 16, 2009 7:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Everyone keeps comparing what MJD did
to Brian Westbrook’s play against the Cowboys in 2007 but the big difference was the Eagles were ahead in that game.
I’m glad it worked out but I really wasn’t happy with the call.
by pksiv on Nov 16, 2009 7:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great article
This was an amazing game, probably the best game of the year all around. Not to down play the great wins over the Texans and Titans, but this game felt like we were firing on all cylinders. MJD as per usual is showing everyone that he can handle the full load of carries, and is an unselfish player on that kneel down. As for Sims-Walker I think he had a great game considering he was being covered by one of the best CB in the game, and he still managed O.K. yards and a TD.
The defense was SICK this game, they took it to the Jets, and Pot Roast is amazing! I’m surprise to say this, but am happy too, Considine had a great game and is showing improvement. He was out of position once or twice in the beginning but he came back nicely.
I loved the play calling in the first half, but the second half play calling was killing me, too many 3 and outs. Dirk needs to break his habits once a defense figures him out. De Rio looked like the Jack of old, which I’m glad to see, lets just hope he can keep it up. Oh that worst thing of this game was losing Dillard, lets hope he can recover and become like another Sims-Walker (remember he had injuries that kept him back his first couple of seasons). However, I really want Underwood to get a chance, b/c I’m not a fan of Hughes.
by Messina on Nov 16, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Coaching mishap
I will say that I agree with Del Rio having Drew kneel at the one. We had just lost Mathis and our Defense was gassed. The blunder was that they sent Scobee out on 3rd down whis is right but only left 2 seconds on the clock. If there was a mishap they left themselves no opportunity. Glad it all worked out though. GO JAGS
by jagswinbig on Nov 16, 2009 9:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The second half production problems,
I think, can be partly blamed on David. We’ve all said it before. David has favorite toys, and he always looks at them first. With the Jets taking away 81 and 11, David had to figure out where the rooks were. Once he did, things started coming together again. Maybe it just seemed that way, but it’s the impression I get.
Great game, damn glad they put that one together! Go Jags!
by Pyrofish on Nov 16, 2009 10:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like you're reaching for things...
David completed passes to the rookies earlier in the game too. I don’t think he plays favorites… I think 11 & 81 are probably open more than the rest. Clearly the Jets thought so which is why they moved their #1 corner on MSW.
He did complete passes to J. Dillard(7yds), M. Lewis(25) and 2 to M. Thomas(20,7) in the 2nd quarter
by pksiv on Nov 16, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
Holt and MSW are his starting receivers. haha
I think we have to give some credit to the Jets for just playing well in that second half. Seemed whatever call was made on offense wasn’t going to work.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 16, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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