Bills @Jacksonville The View from the Stadium
by Tkopa on Nov 22, 2009 7:07 PM EST
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We won but I don't feel as good as I did last week when we beat the Jets. We should have won, we should have beaten them easily and instead we fought hard for the victory. I am proud of the team for hanging in there and winning. They are showing they want to win and that is good. I am not proud of the coaching in this game. We looked like we struggled most of the game and I still don't know how we won it.
The Bills came out just as confused as we expected them based on their week. Fitzpatrick started out throwing bad passes to receivers who weren't looking. The Bills first drive was everything we wanted, a wounded animal limping around on the field. Sean Considine intercepted the pass by doing just what he does best, standing in just the right spot. The opening drive of the Bills ended with us on their 28 yard line. Can you say run Maurice run? That is exactly what we did, right to the 12 yard line. So what genius play did we call next? The stupid wide receiver screen that goes nowhere every time. It is a risky worthless play that lost 3 yards. With second and 13, the run option was taken away and the Bills came after David. David ran like he didn't know what to do and we ended with a Josh Scobee field goal.
Why didn't the offensive line show up this week? They didn't run block and they didn't pass block. David looked like a pathetic rookie today for most of the game. Sorry, back to the game.
The Bills tried to move the ball and couldn't until a roughing the passer call moved it for them. At that point in the game, Mel Tucker decided not to rush Fitzpatrick and not to cover Terrell Owens. Terrell Owens caught 48 yards of passes in that drive and the Bills tied the game at 3-3. Just in case you say "well Terrell Owens is a top level receiver", he wasn't. He is slow out of the breaks and doesn't look like anything at all anymore. He could have been shut down easily if we had someone to do it. We kept screaming "Put Cox on him", but why do that?
The next series David was intercepted. The score board showed the ball bouncing on the ground and the defender picking it up off the bounce. THROW THE FLAG JACK we yelled, THROW THE FLAG!!!!! Nope. No challenge. Maybe he saw it closer than the zoom lens on the jumbotron. I don't know. 6-3 Bills.
The next series Mike Simms Walker and Marcedes Lewisgot into a "I can do better than you" battle as they both caught 24 yard passes. That moved the ball to the Bills 4 yard line when Paul Pusluszney pulled the filthiest play I ever saw. That piece of slime who should be and will be fined $25,000 for his actions grabbed Maurice by the face mask and twisted his head around full 360 and never let go as he dragged him to the ground by the mask. I wanted to run out of the stands and go after him myself, but figured the Jaguars would deal with it. Maurice scored and I was glad, up 10-6.
At this point the Bills found their footing and began to play football. Again, no rush on Fitzpatrick. No blitz. No pressure. It was as if we figured we would win and didn't show up to play. It was so lazy and so uninspired I didn't know what was happening. Field goal at the half 10-9 Jags.
Our opening sequence from the start of the second half showed Maurice going nowhere and David running for his life. It was the left side of the line, Monroe, Manuwai and Meester who let us down today. Pressure came hard against David. Finally Podlesh punted his one very good punt. Buffalo pinned at the two yard line. Come on defense, get him and make us proud. Nope. No pass rush, no blitz, no pressure. Fitzpatrick stood patiently as Terrell Owens ran past Tyron Brackenridgefor a 98 yard touchdown, Tyron Brackenridge is all of 5 foot 5 and Terrell Owens is all of 7 foot nine. At least that is how it looked. Two point conversion no good, 15-10 Bills.
The Bills had 350 yards of offense with Terrell Owens having 200 yards of it. He was so open and so not covered all day he could have had more. When one guy is generating almost 60% of your problems, maybe you should cover him? Nope. When a quarterback is starting his first game behind a really bad offensive line maybe you should pressure him? Nope.
The Jaguars had 325 yards of offense against one of the worst defenses. When you combine the Terrell Owens show with no real offense for the Jaguars you get COACHING ERRORS!!!!! AHHHHH it was so frustrating watching this game. Thank God for Marcedes Lewis and Mike Simms Walker. They showed up to play today. Even my idol. Torry Holt dropped balls today.
How did we win? Simple, with six minutes left in the game, we played Jaguar football. Short pass to MSW, Passes to Torry Holt, run by Maurice, touchdown to MSW. Oh, and a 53 yard pass for a Bills touchdown to Lee Evans was called back. In other words, we were one penalty away from losing. One flag by a referee saved this game for us. Against the Buffalo Bills, we needed flag help. God did we miss Rashean and Durant. Gene, the offensive line is not done being rebuilt yet. Better save a few draft picks for guards next year.
I am mad about this game. We won, but I am mad about this game. We came out uninspired with no game plan on offense or defense. A team without a coach and a quarterback whipped our butts today except they didn't get the win. Like I said, I am proud of our players for fighting. I am disappointed in our coaches. Write one nice article about them and it goes to their head. Same old Jaguars. Get on a winning streak and they relax. They better get their pads on this week, San Fransisco is no cake walk.
We are 6-4 now with some very interesting games ahead. If we win 3 of them, it will be a wonderful season. If we win two of them, it will be a good season. But please play hard, please play inspired. Lose if you must, but don't play like today ever again. It was not good football on either side of the ball.
- Terry O'Brien
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We just came out flat, and stayed flat for most of the game. The only reason the Bills really moved to ball on the defense was penalties however, so thats the brightside in that(other than the 98 yarder to T.O.). The offense could never get a good drive going, and maintain it. It’s hard to go down the field with a plan to gain 5 yards every play. You need some big plays. Jones-Drew didn’t have the day everyone expected him to have. I don’t think he ever had a run longer than 7 yards.
The problem with covering T.O. wasn’t really a solvable one. You say Derek Cox should have been stuck to Terrell, but you also say Terrell wasn’t performing in his route running today. I have a different opinion about how he played, but I’ll stick with yours. Anyway what I’m saying is Lee Evans is I promise you faster in and out of his breaks… I wouldn’t want T.Brak on him in his first action as corner all season.
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 22, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great point
Maybe Terrell was open becasue Lee Evans wasn’t. Didn’t consider that.
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by Tkopa on Nov 22, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah they had weapons. I wonder how we survive that game...
We need a healing touch on Mathis.
By the way Terry Posluszny played like a beast today; we can agree on that. If he don’t plays on this game; it wouldn’t be even close…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He will be fined for his dirty play
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by Tkopa on Nov 22, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
That was pretty ridiculous. I’m a fan of letting the players play, but that was a nasty facemask.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 22, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wanna know something funny
I think Paul was the same guy that completely turned MJD’s helmet around by the facemask last year. Personally I don’t think it was a dirty play. He’s a textbook tackler, as in he doesn’t dive at people’s ankles like everyone else seems to. Unluckily for MJD, Paul’s propensity for tackling people up higher means he’s going to be tackling MJD’s facemask, due to MJD’s short stature.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't Think
He should be fined. It was a nasty facemask though. I think your right, that was Posluszny last season. He had a great day, I just think he was trying to take out our best player. I can’t really blame him, Drew is now one of the greatest backs in the league.
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 23, 2009 7:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You really think it was intentional
and he shouldn’t be fined ?
Personally, I don’t think it was intentional.
by pksiv on Nov 23, 2009 7:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Football players do that all the time. Why wouldn’t you try to take some shots at their best player. I’m not saying facemask the hell out of a guy, but some rib and lower leg shots are to be expected.
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 23, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I called MJD
getting held to disappointing numbers bestjagfan. Lets put it on record. A win is a win though guys
by harveyismyboy on Nov 23, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1st review of the game
I hope this game is a wakeup call for many. We are heading for make or break games.
We must win 3=Playoffs.
I’m not sold on the 49ers Terry; plus as I said WE HAVE A BIIIIIIIIIIIIG X-Factor on our side on that game(later on that next week). We need Durant back. Mathis might not play so wee need to dfind someone on the CB spot.
The 49ers has playmakers-but No QB and I not like their HC either.
Big game coming up. Not the Jags go back to work.
Ugly win is a win-specially if you can learn from the mistakes! We will see if the Jags can learn it next sunday around now.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way...
The Saints barely beat the Rams last week and the Steelers lost to the Chiefs today. That’s right the CHIEFS! We’re now officially better than last year’s team and tied with the Steelers in the wild card race.
Positives:
D-Line played well even if it was a patchwork o-line. Big Hen got a couple sacks and Pot Roast keeps getting better.
No injuries to speak of (That’s big)
MSW proves his talent and toughness once again
Marcedes is starting to look like a first rounder.
Nelson continuing to tackle
TO wouldn’t have had a big day if Rashean was in
A W is a W is a W! So be frustrated during the game and happy with the win afterwords!
Wins are hard to come by in this league no matter who you’re playing against.
If you want to feel better go find a Steelers fan and tell him:
Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah, Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
by rusty904 on Nov 22, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Or a Cincy fan...
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cincy loses to oakland, indy barely beats the ravens,
it was a win. A Jaguars win. I take all of them with a smile. Remember the saying, “any given Sunday”.
by indianajagfan on Nov 22, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks guys..
Just my point.
A win is a win. Please stop with the “we should blow out this team or that team”. There is no easy wins no matter who you play in this league.
Its a W, i’ll take it.
by Alxgarder on Nov 22, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We're the 5th seed right now in the playoff hunt.
by leopold332002 on Nov 22, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
the 3 games which coming up next will define it is a 7-9/8-8 season or a Playoff sesason
Win all 3=playoffs
Win 2 then you need to win either of the Colts or the Pats=playoffs or 9-7
Win 1=8-8 sewason mission accomplished
Lose all 3.. Well let’s hope that is not gonna happen…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was it ugly? Sure, but we won and that's all that matters.
Also, you underestimated TO’s numbers. He had 197 yards on the day.
Had a great time today, once gain thanks!
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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 22, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What was your gameday experince John?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you came - I had a good time too!
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by Tkopa on Nov 22, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
im just glad we are playing meaningful football games heading towards December.
by Jagz8 on Nov 22, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yep!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Observations
Lee Evans never left buffalo, he wasn’t a factor.
Henderson got 2 sacks, which has happened 4 or 5 times in his career. Our sack total increases.
Brackenridge is at least better than Reggie as a backup CB.
Russell Allen is still raw, which is to be expected. However in the future he may work out as a starter.
Meester looked old and had an off day. Cecil Newton may get his chance next year.
Considine was a good pickup, very solid and finally got an INT along with a major deflection.
Mike Sims-Walker should be the main target, and I’d like to see more bubble and WR screens.
Good Win for an improving team.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mostly all the teams we needed to lose, lost.
So thats pretty good.
Optimistic View:
@ San Francisco 49ers- Potentially a win, W
Houston Texans- “Always changing the Future is.” W
Miami Dolphins- W
Indianapolis Colts- L
@ New England Patriots L
@ Cleveland Browns W
(10-6)
Realistic View:
@ San Francisco 49ers- W
Houston Texans- L
Miami Dolphins- W
Indianapolis Colts- L
@ New England Patriots L
@ Cleveland Browns W
(9-7)
Worst case scenario:
@ San Francisco 49ers- L
Houston Texans- L
Miami Dolphins- W
Indianapolis Colts- L
@ New England Patriots L
@ Cleveland Browns W
(8-8)
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree with you
and on the MNF I will root for the Titans 8sorry texans; I like you guys; “but business is business”
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing personal, Its just business
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see
more screens to Jennings. He’s a liability in pass pro, and he’s not a good inside runner yet. I actually do see improvement though.
I’m glad people are finally coming around with Considine. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but 2 of our bigger playmakers on D are street FA’s in Smith and Considine.
For a UDFA rookie, Allen is a beast. I really don’t see much of a drop off between Durant and Allen. And he looks like he could take over the MLB position next year, leaving oft injured Durant to play WLB again, moving Daryl Smith to SLB.
Meester did have an off day, but it was far from horrible. I think Uche had the worst day of all the OL.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
everyone on here's boy
manuwai sucked badddd today also
by harveyismyboy on Nov 23, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bubble screens blow
if thats what we run with MT. The most yards we have gotten on that play this year is maybe 8. I hate that we waste so many plays on that playcall.
by harveyismyboy on Nov 23, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have watched it 5 or 6 times at the stadium
It seems telegraphed or someting. It is going to cost us a pick someday.
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by Tkopa on Nov 23, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good teams find ways to win
Despite how poorly they may have played. Give the team some credit. They are winning the close games that they could not win last year. I don’t think it should have been a shock that the Bills might have some success against the Jags’ secondary, with Mathis out. I really hope that everyone won’t complain too much, because WE WON!!! So enjoy it!
by JagsAlex87 on Nov 22, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but they need to learn their lessons
3 crtical veeeeery hard game is on the horizon…I hope Durant can play on the next sunday. We must limit Gore; Somehow limit Vernon Davis; and Crabtree. Hope for another bad Alex Smith game; Somehow switch of Patrick Willis(you saw what Pusluszny di with us today; double that; and you get Willis) and hope for my X-factor will become a real weapon for us…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Smith's performance is of no consequence
All shall fall to the Jaguars’ Might.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Except Garrard is starting to become a Clutch QB!!!!!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
But realistically Frank Gore and their defense is the only threat to us.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crabtreee and Davis are good!
They need a good QB; and they are a dangerous team
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't fear crabtree too much
Davis is good but i think we can handle him.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Without Rashean????
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
derek can cover him
Rashean should be better by next game, how much better is the question however.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he will sit out
and if Derek Cox will cover Vernon Davis-Crabtree will be open-I watched the Bears-49ers game. He looked REALLY GOOD….
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vernon Davis
Plays tight end. So it will likely be Sean Considine if the coverage is man.
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 22, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Against our secondary with mathis out I fear any reciever
by cliff1982 on Nov 22, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really fear
Vernon Davis down the seem. It seems to be the best connection the niners have. And frankly, I don’t think we have an answer for it.
And I think the football fan community, as a whole, is really underestimating Alex Smith. With just average pass protection he’s a playmaker. Fortuntely for the Niners, we don’t have a pass rush. Also with the state our DB’s are in, the Niners could really hurt us if they decide to go 4 wide early on and leave the pedal down.
I’m actually expecting a loss, if MJD doesn’t get going early and often in that game. And even though the Niners aren’t super great against the pass, horrible actually, they know how to take away your best pass catcher. Just ask Sidney Rice, Larry Fitz, and Andre Johnson; who had a combined total of 182 yds; averaging only 61 yards each. In our case not getting production from MSW can really hurt our chances of coming out of there with a win.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vernon Davis
Has I believe eight touchdowns this season. About seven of those are off that seam route the 49ers run once or twice every game. Thats their go to play when they’re on the cusp of the redzone. We may have to show a cover three look to take that play away, but then of course that just begs for the underneath routes.
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 23, 2009 7:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Marcedes Lewis
Is Lewis starting to become the player he should have been his first year? Todays showing had me excited for what is to come.
The game was pathetic, but it was a win!
Still in the hunt.
by Pickle on Nov 22, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Marcedes looking gooood lately!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's playing at a late 1st round- 2nd round level currently
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Should have been"
Not every player “should” be a huge impact in their first season. In fact, TE is a position thatis different everywhere and often needs developmental time.
Antonio Gates’ first season:
Catches: 37
Yards: 391
Yards/G: 24.4
Avg: 10.6
1st Down:22
TD: 2
Now, I’m going to skip Lewis’ first year, but if we go to his second these stats look very similar to Gate’s first. And they keep getting better. Now, Lewis is by far no Gates. But he is good. The 1st Downs is huge.
Lewis’ second season:
Catches: 37
Yards: 391
Yard/G: 24.4
Avg: 10.6
1st Down:22
TD: 2
This year, Lewis’ catch avg. is 14, he has 2 TD and he is, in my opinion, one of the best blocking TEs in the league.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Nov 22, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only NOT bust 1st round draft choice...
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oy
I apologize. I didn’t post Gate’s stats right. His first season is as follows:
Catches: 24
Yards: 389
Yard/G: 25.9
AVG: 16.2
1st Down:19
TD: 2
by alwaysforgiven821 on Nov 22, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was like
upi posted the same exact stats twice. What a coincidence I was thinking.
I dont think Harvey and Nelson are busts yet. Nelson actually had a bad year last year, but going back to his rookie year he had a good rookie year and he’s playing well this year. It’s a hard position to master, especially with as little good instruction as he’s had. Keep in mind he’s had a different DC every year he’s been here.
Harvey is too young to call a bust yet, even without the sacks. Overdrafted? Yes, but he’s a productive player, and I really can’t imagine how bad this D would be without him.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Harvey had an excellent game yesterday
just watch the replay. bbut plays like staying home and tackling parrish for a loss on the end around is the improvement i love to see. and he got pressure, but couldnt get the sack like always
. I see definite improvement, just doesnt show in the stats.
Not enough has been said about some real positives from yesterday
How about Big Hen tearing it up for 2 sacks?! Our first multi sack game of year for a single player and its the revived Big Hen. I was proud.
Anthony Smith making a diving pick. good to see
Garrard leading the jags AGAIN to a GW DRIVE. He may be inconsistent in the meat of a game, but steps it up big time when it counts.
T Brack doing well besides the 98 yarder. but their final possesion the diving break-up? unbelievable play.
MSW playing like a true no.1 again. This guy is special. Did anyone else see when he got injured and the staffers tried to help him off and he literally kept shoving them away? Toughness. Next play, back in.
Running game sucked. For some reason I expected that. we play down to other teams weaknesses, has been a trademark of Jags football since I can remember.
But a W is a W!
by harveyismyboy on Nov 23, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Harvey
is usually pretty good about staying home for reverses and waggles etc. But I agree he had a good game.
However our lack of a running game had nothing to with the Jags playing down to the Bills level. The Bills were playing at a higher level than in past games. And in this game they were also somewhat lucky with playing so many men in the box, because had MJD broken through he would have had a good chance of getting a lot of yardage. In this case their D didn’t blink, so to speak.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 24, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's looking better
because we finally have outside WR’s that someone needs to be concerned about. When your 2 WR’s can be single-covered, the safeties are free to play the run and roam the middle. I’m thinking that MSW and Holt are opening up the middle a bit more than before.
by pksiv on Nov 23, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It does help
but the threat of the run and the lack of protection our OL was giving at times also helped.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh that game almost gave me a heart attack. If anything positive comes out of this (besides winning) I think it is winning when Jones-Drew is pretty much shut down all game. If we can win without depending on Jones-Drew so much, i think it’s positive.
by cliff1982 on Nov 22, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mike Sims-Walker is the Messiah's (MJD) right hand man
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he is
I almost shat myself when he got hurt, luckily it wasnt serious.
by cliff1982 on Nov 22, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking
Dang, that sank my battleship
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to the Jags. A win is a win.
Sometimes you come out flat and lose to a weaker team, but in this game all credit to the Jags for getting it together enough to beat the Bills.
I know we would all like to see our team dominate but for whatever reason it doesn’t always work out that way.
Look at the Lions vs the Browns. Some people might mock us for winning in that wild game, but I will take wins anyway we can get them. Lord knows we have been on the short end often enough.
by NorthLeft12 on Nov 22, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks very much
And what a game today!!!! WOW!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take a sorry win
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 22, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I brought this up before about letting other teams set records on us.
But I believe we set yet another crappy record today for the wrong team. That 98 yard TD by Owens was the longest in our stadiums history and the longest in Owens carrier. So far we let Kurt Warner break the best completion record ever, Chris Johnson broke a few franchise rushing records for them and us, and I’m sure there is a few more out there. Our D needs to tighten up.
by cliff1982 on Nov 22, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
In spite of the fact the D has given up record performances to the other teams, the Jags are 6-4. But is was just one play in the game. The defense did limit them to field goals the rest of the time.
by JagsAlex87 on Nov 22, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its just one lapse a game
thats why we rank poorly in stats around the league on Defense. we are tight for 90% of a game and then let teams tear us up fr 10% that makes it look worse than it was
by harveyismyboy on Nov 23, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HOLY COW
Are we serious? Is this what we have become? Crying because we didn’t destroy the Bills? Dude we won the game. Today was supposed to be a wet and nasty day but it turned out very nice. The game was very exciting and fun, during the last Bills drive thats the loudest I have heard the stadium/crowd all year. I would rather take this type of game any sunday then a complete blowout. At least the game was fun to watch, yeah it was frustrating at times, but hey WE WON. Also besides the big TD to T.O I thought the DEF played well.
by jags1981 on Nov 22, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Crying? Where do you read crying?
Questioning coaches calls yes. Not allowed in your view?
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by Tkopa on Nov 22, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted to wrote just that
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crying maybe a bit strong
but there is a lot of negativity and we should just be happy the team won. The Jaguars are NOT an elite team and the Bills, despite what everyone was saying going into the game, have played some very competitive games against teams that are better than the Jaguars are…
I’m happy for the W and hope that this gritty performance paired with the embarrassment in Seattle will help the team be ready for the up coming West Coast road game.
I still think the playoffs are a long shot but it is so awesome to still be talking them going into Thanksgiving.
by pksiv on Nov 23, 2009 6:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We not crying
I’m happy that
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'M happy that we won
But we need to be a bit critical because there were issues on this game.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Questioning Calls
Yes i agree we should be critical of the coaches, and I was also screaming throw the FLAG on the interception play. However it just seemed to me that we are so quick to point out the bad while overlooking the good. I get the feeling that we as fans want everything to be perfect and I think that is asking just a bit to much. After all even the great Payton Manning threw two ints todays, and the mighty Steeler DEF lost.
by jags1981 on Nov 22, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh My God, did you guys see what happened to the Bills offensive right guard Eric Wood?
I saw he had to get carted of the field but I had no idea it was this bad. They didn’t replay it for obvious reasons. Warning, if you don’t like seeing broken bones, don’t watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3sxYA16Qfk&feature=player_embedded
Anyways, sorry to any Bills fans, that really sucks and I hope he gets better soon.
by cliff1982 on Nov 22, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
O_O
That’s insane.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 22, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea man, never seen one that bad
It looked like it broke in 3 places
by cliff1982 on Nov 22, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was that Pot Roast who landed on him?
by cliff1982 on Nov 22, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Pot Roast
That was Stanley. I feel sorry for the guy. Luckily he’s a linemen, because that’s often a career ender at a skill position. I’m praying for him.
Speaking of Stanley, he had a great game. Easily better than Ellison IMO. But I’d still rather switch Ellison and Landri on the active list if it were up to me.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
HORRIBLE STUFF
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 22, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wood
Is apparently staying in Jacksonville over-night. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nflinjuries&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Ouch. That break made me sick.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Nov 22, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nasty
yeah i was getting mad at all the Bills players getting hurt. It seemed like every play another bills player was hurt. At least this one was for real. Sucks to be that guy. That looked like Pot Roast
by jags1981 on Nov 22, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to our season. We’re down the majority of our LB corps, a good portion of our secondary, and our already questionable OL has been smashed all year, preventing any degree of continuity. Here’s to high draft position next year.
It’s a shame it was Wood, because the rookie has been one of the better contributors this year.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Nov 23, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your LB's
were not a weakness on Sunday for you guys. Your weakness was at QB. The rest of the team played admirably. Your run blocking leaves something to be desired. I assume your pass pro is weak, but I can’t tell for sure because our pass rush sucks so badly.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely agree
The Bills were stronger than I thought.
My feeling was we could have stressed out Fitzpatrick more and given him less time to find TO.
If he is smart, he would find the open man. If he couldn’t throw accurately, he would provide opportunities to pick passes off. He was the weak link and the secret to victory for us.
Other than that, it was a hard game.
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by Tkopa on Nov 23, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh. He doesn’t throw accurately (in the short range) even when he has plenty of time.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Nov 23, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only reason our LBs didn’t look terrible is that we finally got Poz back (bad luck on the MJD tackle; Poz is a very clean player – gotta think it was a mistake) and we found a kind of decent surprise in Chris Draft a few weeks ago. However, we’re down 2 starting LBs, Mitchell and Ellison, and our backups were largely rookies/previous PS guys that have underperformed.
Some of the O-line is starting to get it, I think, but like I said, injuries have prevented continuity.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Nov 23, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
I think I am the most happiest jaguar fan on here that the jags won that game because I LIVE IN BILLS COUNTRY so that shuts them the hell up! ( not that they had much to talk about this year, but they can’t rub it in my face!)
by dan073eb on Nov 23, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Try being a Bills fan that lives in Patriots country.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Nov 23, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel sorry for you
Funny story. I think it was a year or 2 ago I went to watch our game at a Bills Diner with a friend that was a Bills fan. The place was packed with Bills fans. But I got so into the game that game that I forgot where I was and started cheering out loud on a good Jags play. Everyone dropped their eating utensils and started starring me down and got pretty heated. Boy was that awkward! Fun though.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I live in Atlanta and the Bills Bar is 3 blocks from my house
and the Jags bar is 8 miles and VERY smokey. I was so excited to watch this game with 100+ Bills fans. Only so I could actually hear the sound for a game.
I guess it might have been worse if the Jags were dominating but they got to do a lot of cheering and one of my friends, a Bills fan, told me before it happened that their defense always gives up the game winning drive… they pretty much expected it.
by pksiv on Nov 23, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard the same thing
haha. Some guy(A Bills Fan) was like don’t worry we will lose this in the 4th qtr. He said what gave him hopes was the change in coaching staff.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 24, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Until Dec. 17th when yo guys sell out your season to hopefully beat the Colts...
It never fails with the Jaguars… Against average teams you guys play like a high school varsity team and then against the Colts you pour everything into the game, lose and then implode to attempt a try at it next year…
A little trick I learned in sniper school can help the Jags…
Consistency = Accuracy = Kill Shots (Wins)
by Justin Pugh on Nov 23, 2009 1:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Does that mean we played a high JV team?
by SoCalStites on Nov 23, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No...
The bills are a team with absolutely no identity. You guys should have easily handled them. But because you have an idiot for a coach who is simply blessed to have one of the best running backs carrying this team, he hasn’t been bounced out of Jacksonville.
At any rate…
You guys should have blown out the Bills… instead you guys sucked for 57 minutes to have a late stupid penalty save your play off hopes…
Hope you guys keep winning…
by Justin Pugh on Nov 23, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Explain to me
why we should have blown out the Bills. All I heard going into the game was how bad the Bills were against the run and MJD will have 3 or so TD’s leading us to an easy win. But you can’t blame the coaching staff for the OL not being able to give MJD any running lanes for MJD. Personally I don’t blame Garrard, MJD, or any skill position player for the ugliness of that game. We just got our butts handed to us in the trenches. We may have been the favorites going into the game, but we are lucky to come out with the win.
In regards to the trenches, I think we need to find a future replacement for Uche. He has too many oopsies that seem to come from nowhere, leading Garrard having to prematurely leave the pocket.(Not good for a pocket passer)
Meester didn’t have a good game, but it wasn’t bad. Manuwai is playing well and hard, but had a hiccup or 2 of his own. Monroe looked like he took a slight step back(He was playing really well, especially in the run game. Very smart player.). Britton has been pretty steady all year, but I’m glad he’s a younger player because he looks like he needs to add a little strength(Not something I would have said coming into the year, because of his presence). I couldn’t get a good look at him to tell wither or not he was dipping his again.(Something Uche does too much.)
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 4:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree but want your comments on this
The passes to Terrell Owens took time to develop. Fitzpatrick had that time. Against Sanchez, we brought a lot of pressure forcing the turnovers if we could. In this game we made no effort to go after Fitzpatrick or rattle him. That gave time for TO to get open.
I just felt we could have held them well under 300 yards in offense and shut down the two or three scoring drives.
Our offense was not all coaching, it was performance. When MJD wasn’t going anwhere that is blocking.
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by Tkopa on Nov 23, 2009 6:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Against the Jets we had Mathis
I’d say the coaches didn’t feel comfortable leaving Brack out there by himself too often which they’d need to do to bring more pressure.
by pksiv on Nov 23, 2009 7:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Fitzpatrick’s not that accurate in the first place. Your coaches probably went the smart way with that actually.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Nov 23, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That play to
TO had nothing to do with the lack of pass rush. It was a 3 step drop and release. That mishap was just a mental mistake by Tyron. He was playing off, and he thought he had a beat on the QB and he ended up letting TO get behind him. Basically he gambled and lost badly.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 24, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WARNING! SMUG COLTS FAN SIGHTING!
I guess the Colts are the only team allowed to win squeakers and crow about it.
by NorthLeft12 on Nov 23, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What penalty
are you talking about???
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PUGH!!!! Something stinks around here!
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by JagsCub on Nov 23, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another bandwagon Colts fan, oh my
Thanks for telling us how to win. Like we care, as long as we win. You also seem to dismiss any time we’ve beaten the Colts. Have fun getting light reflected back into your eeyes by way of Peyton’s forehead.
Colts barely beat the Ravens, hypocritical yes?
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 23, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's alright
Peyton will choke again in the playoffs, like always and there 10-0 start will be meaningless.
by cliff1982 on Nov 23, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WTF
I wrote like 5 comments, and they all disappeared. Stupid glitch.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like
I finally redid them all. Boy was that a pain in the azz.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 4:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm odd
I know if you post too many comments too quickly SBN thinks you’re spamming, but usually they follow it up with spamming your account.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 23, 2009 7:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
May have just been
my comp or connection.
by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you guys struggled against the Bills...
You will not beat the Colts in December…
by Justin Pugh on Nov 23, 2009 9:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Please go to the Colts site and say positive things over there
You are neither funny nor intelligent and are not welcome here.
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by Tkopa on Nov 23, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have other feeling my freind about that game
Seriously… You might be surprised on that night….
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 23, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You barely beat us the first time! Quit your SQUAWKIN!!!
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by JagsCub on Nov 23, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Ignorant Colts fans are the worst
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 23, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey idiot,
See you after we win against your vaunted Colts.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 23, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair...
Fitzpatrick wasn’t starting his first game this year. He came in when Edwards got injured, started the next 2 games, got benched when Edwards came back, and this game was his third start since Edwards got benched.
When a quarterback is starting his first game behind a really bad offensive line maybe you should pressure him? Nope.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Nov 23, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My mistake in not checking facts before writing
and in going to the game with Jonathan and him buying the beer.
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by Tkopa on Nov 23, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No worries. It’s difficult for us fans to keep it straight at this point.
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by WhyBillsWhy on Nov 23, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The TD that got pulled back on a penalty
I just saw that part of the video. Had the Bill’s O-lineman not shoved his hand up into Harvey’s face mask, Harvey would have had Fitzpatrick on that play. Maybe, maybe not, but it wasn’t a definite touchdown as someone said above.
Hard fought game, I’ll take it. Having the character to come back when it counts is a great thing to have in your team.
by Pyrofish on Nov 23, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The chracter of this team is unquestionablly fantastic
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by Tkopa on Nov 23, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's good because they'll need to be like that
this 3 games will decise the Jags fate. And if they can show this kind of “fight for the team” attitude on all 3 games; then ladies and gentleman we have a playoff team.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 23, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This may be too simplistic but...
I just watched the NFL Replay and saw a distinct difference in one area of play between the first 3 quarters and the last quarter. The INTERIOR of the O-line. The rookies seemed to play well for the most part, it was Meester, Manuwai, and Nwaneri that had the bad day. Watch where the pressure comes from the first 3 quarters, in the middle all day.
Just sayin.
by Pyrofish on Nov 23, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
nice post I was seeing almost the same thing
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by Tkopa on Nov 23, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I see a
Guard and/or Center coming via draft
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 23, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just had some spare time...
With finals nearly over and most of my research papers turned in… I was up late and decided to just talk a little smack. You guys are a proud group of people on a three game winning streak. I am happy for the Jags. Even though I hate your team because you guys are not on the same level as the Colts.
But good luck headed down the stretch…
by Justin Pugh on Nov 23, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As I said we will see on week 15
I think the Jags might have shot there.
Remeber the awfull ’08 Jags defeat the Colts at Lucas Oil; and give a veeeery tough hard game on week 16; where they were realllly terrible; so…
WE will see….
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 23, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just expect what you dish
to be returned tenfold.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 23, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why does anyone here think we were just suppose to run over these guys?
This is not College Football. Everyone has a chance, any given sunday…even the Raiders.
by Slvrgun on Nov 24, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yep
That’s why I have some fears about the 49ers game:
Long trip to the west coast (baaad memories); Mathis is out(bad experince);Posluszny showed how 1 man can make the diffence-(Now double his effort last Sunday-and you get Patrick Willis).. MJD was stopped and limited by the 32nd Run defense(although he wil have an extra motivation this weekend!!!)…
So yeah; there are some warning signs..
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 24, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Patrick Willis is a freak of nature. A 255 pound middle backer who runs a 4.5. I’d be uncomfortable going across the middle.
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