Miami@Jacksonville The View from the Stadium
It was a good day at the stadium, Oh yea, we lost. Sorry. You know what? I am not that disappointed. This team played very hard right to the end. We didn't have all of our muscle in today and even if we did, Miami has a lot of muscle. Miami looks to be rounding out as a playoff caliber team. We are not quite there yet, but we aren't as far off as we were a few weeks ago. We could have won, we almost won. In fact, the defense took it to them hard. If we had one more play on offense our playoff hopes would be strongly alive. That's OK, the Jaguars are OK, so let's take a look at it. By the way, if you stare hard enough at this picture you can see Jonathan and Collin, but you have to look for a long time to see them.
The game didn't start out very well. Jaxson DeVille got hung up on his high-wire act and hung upside down for almost 10 minutes as they tried to figure out how to get him down. As Curtis Dvorak hung 100 feet up over a stadium in a mascot outfit, I wonder if this thought passed his mind "How did my life come to this?".
In the first quarter, the Jaguars were just as hung up. I think Miami had the ball for 12 minutes and the Jaguars got to run all of 6 plays. It was clear Miami was the better team coming out of the gate. One thing about Miami since Bill took over, they are physical. I think the beating Houston gave David took a toll as David did not look sharp. The Dolphins smelled blood.
By the middle of the second quarter the dominance was complete. Miami drove down again and scored on a Chad Henne roll-out. Chad would begin a streak of 17 straight completions that the Jaguars struggled to stop. Everything was open for Miami, runs up the middle, reverses and receivers. We were dead. It was a complete beat down in the making.
Then something began to happen. The offense woke up. The blocking got better and the running and passing began to happen. Maurice ripped off a nine yard run and then Jennings ripped off a ten yard run. Both up the middle. At the goal line we saw what might have been Greg Jones final important play. He held open the Miami defense just long enough to get MJD through.
The defense woke up at this point. Miami had 14 points and the defense said that was enough. They began to get to Chad Henne and rattle him. Hitting began to happen and the ball began to come out. Gerald Alexander forced a fumble and Anthony Smith recovered it. Both of those guys have been playing very well and we have the nucleus of a very good defense in the making. 14-7 Miami at halftime.
Third quarter was one of the most fun quarters of football to watch in the stadium this season. Derrick Harvey set the tone of the second half with a huge sack. He played really well again today.
With the defense beginning their shutdown, the offense had to pick it up. The field was soggy and Maurice slipped a lot. No excuse, Ricky Williams got his 100 yards, but Maurice couldn't do it. They had him running back punts today and nothing good happened. Then lighting struck. Torry Holt pulled a vanishing move and reappeared behind the defense. David scrambled to his right and launched a ball that seemed to move in slow motion. The tension was amazing as we watched the high arc and the ever so slow decent. Please Torry please!!!
Got it! If I blew up this photo you could see the size of his hands. They look like a bushel basket. Torry didn't score but another catch of his had the Jaguars on the 8 yard line. Since they had their quota of red zone touchdowns for the game, it was time for a field goal.
Miami punts, Jacksonville punts, Gerald Alexander forces another fumble and recovers. We are on the 35 yard line. Just get a field goal, please! We can't move the ball and punt. Scobee for 57 yards? I would have tried it.
Miami punts and then the Jaguars fail to convert on fourth down while on the Miami 45 yard line. All we wanted was a field goal, please! Miami ball, Derrick Cox intercepts! A beautiful interception by the 103 best corner back in the draft. Once again, the Jaguars can't move the ball and punt. The defense holds and forces Miami to punt. The Jaguars fail to convert on fourth down again.
The defense had given the offense the ball four times to get 2 field goals or one touchdown. There was no way it was going to happen. Why did it end this way? Maurice could not get it going. Could it be he doesn't have 16 game legs? Is it the offensive line that can't block for him? He seems tired, they seem tired. I don't know.
So why do I feel OK with this game? The defense fought hard without Rahean and Big John. In Miami's last six possessions, the Jaguar defense forced four punts and two turnovers. They adjusted beautifully at halftime and owned the Dolphins in the second half. Miami is a decent team and this defense got it together and almost won the game for us. It was a pleasure watching this defense come alive.
The offense is where things didn't go well today. David didn't play well. Mike Sims-Walker is hurt and Torry can't carry a game. There was no third receiver today. Maurice looks like he has tired legs and can't break tackles as well as earlier in the season. Sadly, Greg Jones suffered a close your eyes leg injury I caught on camera. I won't show it today. He couldn't put any weight on it as he left.
We were beat, but this team fought hard every minute of the game. We are not quite a powerful team yet. We knew this was a year of finding new guys and Gene has done just that. If this team goes 8-8, I am calling it a great success. It is the start of what can get better, much better. This is a good team that knows it can compete. It is a bit tired right now, the veterans, especially on the offensive line, are not holding up. On the other hand, the rookies, this year's rookies and last year's rookies are coming on. Russel Allen is a great run stopping linebacker. Give Gene another year. In the mean time, prayers for Greg, and get ready for the Colts. The last game in the stadium this year is four days away. It was fun in the stadium this year and I think this team deserves a standing ovation.
- Terry O'Brien
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All I wanted was meaningful football in December
And I got it. Hey, the Dolphins can be our model. They had to rebuild too, and through smart drafting and powerful offensive and defensive lines, they’re looking pretty good. This game proved the Jaguars aren’t that far away themselves. Another offseason or two and everything will be great.
Nice recap, Terry.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 13, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions
Extremely upset for Greg
The guy just doesn’t have much luck with injuries. He is by far my favorite Jags’ player, not just because he went to FSU. You won’t find a better teammate than Greg Jones, who stays in the shadows and does all the dirty work. I just hope he gets better soon.
MJD
I agree with MJD starting to look tired. He’s being brought down by simple tackles that he eludes easily in the beginning of the season. My one question is why they don’t utilize Jennings or Jones (before injury) more often. Jennings is averaging almost 5 yds a carry. It would give MJD some rest between plays. IT seems like you only see MJD and garrard in the run stats every week.
Yeah
Am I the only one who wonders how Drew gets two yards every time, but the one carry Jennings get goes for ten yards?
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-Akrobatik
Yeah
MJD has looked tired the last few games, I think he has had too many carries and too many knocks this season. He has literally been run into the ground. Jennings looks like he is starting to get his game together, maybe it’s time to move into a two-RB system, instead of just having the odd run here and there without Mojo.
Not a 2 back system yet
Jennings is still learning the ropes. He’s definitely improving, but he’s still making slight mistakes that MJD wouldn’t. And most of Jennings’ yards come on obvious passing situations.
Maybe so
(and I agree). But a one-back system on a run first team is obviously too much for Mojo to handle over a 16 game season. The dude has all the heart in the world, but his body just looks run-down. He seems to have “hit the wall” so to speak.
Or maybe it’s the -line which has hit the wall? I don’t know. But Jennings looks fresh and sharp when he is on.
He'll develop well
I go to Liberty and saw Jennings play for 3 years and i still think he is a steal in the 7th round. He looks more and more comfortable with the ball each time he runs it. His blocking has gotten a lot better on passing plays and hes pretty quick with the short pass. Garrard just dumped one at him for a 4 yard loss yesterday. Not exactly his fault
He was
at fault for a sack yesterday though. But totally he’s getting better at pass blocking. It’s really remarkable how much he’s improved.
for a 7th rounder,
he’s turning to be a good investment.
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Most definitely
i wasn’t a believer early on. I thought the other guys looked better even though he possibly had more talent.
With the Ups come the downs
Now we must invest our hope in a 3-0 run against a starter-less Indy, an imploding Patroits, and a wimpy Cleveland.
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Caldwell: Colts will play starters this week
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 14, 2009 1:50 PM ET
The NFL Network and every AFC team competing for a Wild Card spot just got an early Christmas present.
Colts coach Jim Caldwell said at his press conference Monday in no uncertain terms that the team would treat this Thursday’s game against Jacksonville “exactly” like the previous thirteen.
“We’re going to play ball and approach it like we do every week,” Caldwell said. “The only thing that will deter anyone from playing time is a health issue.”
Caldwell didn’t appear to be leaving himself wiggle room by mentioning the health issue. He was clear throughout his press conference he wanted to “maintain rhythm” by continuing to play to win.
We suspect that the Colts organization didn’t adopt this approach because they were reading Florio. The Colts have traditionally rested starters early, but they have never clinched homefield advantage with three full games remaining.
Starting to rest now would mean five weeks between meaningful games. Caldwell wouldn’t promise anything about next week’s game.
“That’s all I’m going to deal with is this week. I’m not going to look beyond this game. That’s served us well,” Caldwell said.
Even if it only lasts another week, Caldwell’s decision also serves the league well.
The NFL Network game is far more attractive now, and the Jaguars won’t get a competitive advantage over other playoff contenders.
I expected this and I may get blasted for this, but I'm kinda glad
I absolutely know that the Jaguars are going to win this game. I’m extremely confident and I want it to be a legit win. We need the win and I know that people are going to be discouraged by this news, but the Jaguars are going to win anyway.
Well I wouldn’t expect a fan of a opposing team to think any different but that is also what thirteen other teams, many with a lot better record , thought at the time.
I'm not one who would usually say something like this
I really didn’t think the Jaguars would beat the Dolphins last week. That one didn’t surprise me at all.
+1
I had my worries about the Dolphins game too. For some reason, I think we’ll play the Colts to the wire, like we usually do. Might even take this one. It sure would be exciting if we do :-)
Of course, if we do, and we go on to win Foxborough.. our history says we’ll drop the one in Cleveland. Whatever happens, it’s good for our rookies to know what being in the hunt tastes like now. They’ll want it even more next year.
We were the closest to beating the colts,
we’re much better than we were then.
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they are really good to since then....
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Agree Bro
I’m glad someone else feels the same way. Us winning against Curtis Painter won’t gain us any respect around the league, and everyone will label it a fluke. If we can beat the Colts, and for some reason something is telling me we will; I legitimately had a dream about the Jags winning last night, I know this team is ready for the playoffs.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
Fluke or not
respect or not, I want a win.
Just Win Baby!
Losing Greg Jones and having MSW banged up is huge.
I'd rather
Have Peyton playing so its a legit win. Maybe not having Greg Jones will help MJD realize we aren’t going to power run against the Colts, and that spreading the defense out with an ace set would help our cause.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
True a lot of times...
but running right at the Colts is what we should be doing against them. But we still have to keep them on their heels. Maybe we should run some counters.
if you think the colts are going to sit their starters for a MONTH - you're smoking something
really funny. NO WAY. Colts have history (very bad history) on sitting starters for extended rests – They got bounced in their 1st playoff game – Pitt won superbowl as a wildcard that year.
Have to use Jennings more ...
… he just exploded on that one run, he’s powerful and he’s fresh.
Garrard sucks
He was a one year wonder and took the money and ran. His game check should go to charity. He was totally outplayed by a 1st year starter. If he plays average the Jags win this game.
You are so wrong I wonder why you posted this.
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agree
trade O-lines and running game today and we should see who does better. i agree that Garrard can do better at times but he is the most hit QB in the league and when was the last time you can remember the running game going off. This may be the first year also where he has decent recievers and figures the O-line struggles.
His receivers
kind of struggled in this game too.
And I hate to do this to the guy, but I have very little faith in Nate Hughes for catching anything that’s even remotely contested. Let the ball go right through his arms once, and ran out of bounds to catch a pass that was catchable in bounds.
Just Stop
Garrard did what he could with the plays called. Dirk called a bad game today. Whether or not it was to keep Jones-Drew happy I don’t know, but he didn’t make great decisions. Garrard didn’t throw any picks, didn’t fumble, and made some plays at times. The running game, on the other hand, look putrid for the fourth straight game.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
Honestly
Our running game has stopped scaring anyone. Our passing game is not yet good enough to succeed without a decent running game.
The Dolphins gameplan defensively was simple:
1) Stop Mojo
2) Force a 1 dimensional offense
3) Go after the QB hard.
It succeeded.
I'm usually in Koetters corner
but he really let me down this week. Granted the Dolphins’ D did a few things different this week in the run game, and our defense didn’t get off the field in time to give the team a chance to make adjustments in the first half, but he rarely caught me off guard in this game. The Dolphins’ D sold out, and we didn’t make them pay for it but once.
Same Here
I’m a Koetter supporter most of the time, but he called a bad game yesterday. Not creative, and didn’t break tendencies. Whether or not Jones-Drew is responsible for this I don’t know.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
koetter sucks
ive been asking for his head on a stick for a long time……he needs to adjust to what is happening on the field to devise plays to make the defense pay based on what they are giving up……,it looks to me that he utilizes 15 plays max randomly……..we need creativity!!!!!!!!
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
Yesterday
He wasn’t creative at all, but I have to wonder if this is to keep Jones-Drew happy.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
It has nothing
nothing to do with keeping MJD happy. They saw something on tape in the middle of the Dolphins defense coming in to this game. I saw it too. I wanted the Jags to run up the middle, a lot. Even when it didn’t work early I thought they shouldn’t be afraid to keep trying it, because one was going to crack, and they needed to slow their rush anyhow. The Dolphins had some wrinkles though, and Koetter just didn’t adjust quickly enough.
When did it work early?
The first two drives of the game went three and out.
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-Akrobatik
david absolutely sucked in the Miami game and any who deny it or blame the line
or the weather, or unlucky numbers (or anything / anyone but david) just isn’t dealing with reality. 59.6 QB rating. let me repeat – 59.6 QB rating just plain blows.
He’s been very inconsistent this year IMO. When he plays well, he’s awesome, but when he sucks, he sucks. I’d label him a decent QB – the inconsistency prevents him (and this team) from reaching lofty heights.
We do need a new QB. David has a couple more years, but the grooming process needs to begins asap.
He had a bad game, but he's hardly trash, as the post you're replying to implies.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 14, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
never said he was trash - I clearly said I think he's decent (aka - pedestrian)
and yes – he had a horrible game -- my comment was aimed at those who give DG a total pass no matter what – and that just ain’t right. The Miami debacle – was mostly on DG IMO.
Okay;I agree Clay but the interior O-line was there too
Let’s face it; our calling card on offense (MJD) is not funtcioning so well lately.
So he must take a bit of extra on him.That is also a factor.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 15, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
I really think it all started with Buffalo
Teams started seriously scheming to stop MJD and force Garrard to throw. It’s not a health issue.
I don't know that
anyone is giving him a total pass. But let’s(Us, as in the entire fan base) not try to get rid of the guy after every sub par performance.
No turnovers
Some nice completions. Bad playcalling.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
What was really sad about the Greg Jones injury
Was watching MJD’s reaction. He knew it as soon as it happened that he hurt his teammate and buddy and was clearly upset and frustrated with himself for doing so. It obviously wasn’t his fault, but he was frustrated with the situation all the same.
I think he was also mad that he got tackled/hit low.
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Nice Recap Terry
Collin looks like he is 12.
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-Akrobatik
And the cheerleader on the far left
Looks like a robot
by Adam Stites on Dec 13, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Or maybe
A tan marilyn manson.
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-Akrobatik
She's one of the
robots from Austin Powers. You know which ones. The girls that have smoke come out of their nipples.
Sad about Greg Jones...
but it looks like another week and another prospective rookie, Brock Bolen, will get a chance to play. I don’t know, but I don’t think Montell makes as a good FB… most his success has been on ST and when he’s come in to be a RB.
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I really
wanna see Montell Owens play at RB. I also wonder who will be our FB from now on. I actually think Greg was just starting to hit his stride for the season. He’ll be a huge loss against the small Colts defense. Gonna be missing a lot of plays on a short week. Gonna have to be creative this week just by the fact that a lot of our old plays wont work as well anymore.
This game showed us one thing clearly
We have some talented rookies (and some vets) who are performing well, but… overall our roster lacks enough talent to be seriously threatening. We are still 4 or 5 key players in key spots away from being a good team.
Overall, the team has out-performed expectations given the roster we have. Another good draft/off-season and we will be much better.
The thing that has amazed me as the season has progressed? We all thought the O was going to have to carry the team because our D was not going to be effective. We all had expectations of an explosive offense, and a weak defense. In truth, our D has performed admirably, and one several occasions has kept games close while our O has loooked lost.
Jack Del Rio and Mel Tucker
have really done a commendable this year. I’m truly shocked by the amount of progress on defense, especially lately.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 14, 2009 10:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
commendable *job
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 14, 2009 11:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
especially with the current talent and injuries
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well it does hurt our Pass D
but our Run D is in the upper half of teams
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how bout my boy tearing shit up for about the 5th week in a row yesterday?
aint looking so bad now huh OGN?
by harveyismyboy on Dec 14, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the picture Terry
(I like the very first one too-and not because of the cxheerleaders-I discovered pretty much John and Collin)
I have a very sad/empty mood today; I wasn’T able to concantrate football after the game.
It was a very big missed oppurtunity. The only thing that cheer me up is this:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8147d1c0&template=no-right-rail-with-comments&confirm=true
We are still the 6th seed. But nowq we need to win out; and in NE I think this team will lose…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 7:10 AM EST reply actions
You can't be negative about this game...
It was hard fought. Miami is just positioned better with talent than the Jags. 6 years of bad moves can’t be made up for in one year. The Jags will be fine.
+1
The Dolphins are 1 year further along the “re-building road” than we are. They are actually starting to look like the “real McCoy” as far as playoff teams go. They play the same style of football as us… they are just better at it, as they have fewer talent gaps in the roster.
sugar coat it all you want
Its a quarterback driven league and the Jaguars don’t have one. The numbers don’t lie. Garrard’s numbers have been padded by good first halfs but he plays terrible in the 2nd half and when they need a score to win the game, he chokes. We are looking at least at two more years of rebuilding, because next year they need to draft a qb and then develop him. Until the Jags get a qb, they will be average at best.
Brady, Rothlisberger, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning...
I got news for you… there’s a whole lot of good QB’s that aren’t going to the superbowl this year. Want me to continue? Romo, Schaub, McNabb… to tell you the truth, I’ve never thought that much about Drew Brees until this year. Peyton has always been the Devil, but a QB alone ain’t getting you there. I’ll agree that Garrard isn’t a visual leader and he’s probably .400 as far as QB’s this year, but I’m afraid the Jags will have plenty of time to find a QB. You gotta hope the stars align and all is right with the world (and JAX).
2010 Draft is loaded with QB's
Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Case Keenum, Jimmy Clausen, Jake Locker, Andy Dalton(maybe), just to name a few. If we pass on a QB in this draft I will really question because I’m still not sold completely on Garrard. This is one of the best draft for Qb’s coming out so we can’t pass on this.
Will Keenum come out
Or Locker? And what about Mellett (Arkansas)? Who would be the most ideal QB for the Jags?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Locker and Mallet
There is no way those guys fall to us. They are easily top 10 picks
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-Akrobatik
Tebow may go higher with that...
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
Clausen, who will probably end up being the best pure quarterback in the draft this year, is in there, plus Bradford and McCoy.
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-Akrobatik
My worry with
Bradford is I don’t know how he plays with even a decent pass rush coming after him. How is McCoy any better for this team than Garrard?
I don’t like Clausen. Nothing about his talent or the way he plays, but I just don’t like him. Though he could be one the best out of this draft.
Believe Me
I hate Bradford, just another Chad Pennington. McCoy has no arm strength either. Clausen would be nice, because he can scramble a little, which I find as my number one trait in a quarterback. However I don’t want to take a first round QB. Thad Lewis in round four sounds about right…
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
I don't really see the Bradford
Pennington similarities other than lack of arm strength. Bradford does have a weaker arm, but he’s not Chad weak. I would compare him to Matt Leinart. Good touch passes. Slow to read defenses and not very good with the intermediate passing game. Both had superior OL’s.
Pennington
Throws almost the exact same kind of touch pass Bradford. Pennington is also about 10 years older. In ten years, I guarantee Bradford will have the same, if not less arm strength than Pennington
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-Akrobatik
I'm not sure about this
but I think Bradford may have a stronger arm than he displays in games. Just doesn’t use it because its not his type of game.
Could Be
I think his stock could rise or fall considerably with his showing at the combine. If he can throw those deep outs in front of scouts, he could work himself back up into the top ten. Like you said about Clausen above, just not liking him, I feel the same way about Bradford. I can’t place what it is, I just wouldn’t want Bradford on the Jags.
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-Akrobatik
I rather us get a Qb in the 3rd or 4th
The class is so deep if even a couple juniors declare. Dan Lefevour, who looks like a Drew Bledsoe and Tony Pike would be awesome.
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I liked
Tony Pike last year even before Vic started talking about him. He has most of the tools, and I like his accuracy. Does he have it though. Not sure. Collaros sure seemed to.
They say the reason his backup did great was because of the
Coach and the system. We’ll learn more after the season when everything is set in stone.
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I'm not sure what it is
But last year Pike seemed to have a lot more arm strength.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
You act like if we don't draft a QB now we are doomed.
Sure we need one but I am not going to get all emotional and pick one because this draft has been labeled “a draft loaded with great qbs”.
Keenum has not declared. Locker is coming back for a senior season.
by floridafalcons#63 on Dec 14, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
dont say case keenum dude
he sucksssssssssss
by harveyismyboy on Dec 14, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Are You Kidding?
Garrard has led three game winning drives already this year. Do you even watch the games, or do you just read what the media says, and copy it down? And don’t just post and dash, respond to this. I want to know what your thinking was when you posted that.
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-Akrobatik
I'm glad
I’m not the only one who feels, ok, after the game. I thought I’d come here and see hate, but BCC proves once again that we have knowledgeable and good fans.
I thought, for the most part, the O-line looked better than the last game. Not as good as they should be, but better. I thought there were some key drops by WR’s that should have been made. What a great catch by Torry, but also what a bad drop.
I feel good about this game. Not great like if we’d have won, but I have a good feeling for the future of the team. Who would have thought our rookies would be playing this well?
I'M a bit sad because how this game turned out
BUT no matter how the season turn out I’M PROUD OF THE ’09 JAGUARS! They id far more so far that I expected.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
The future is bright
Just think of this: we go into the 2010 offseason with the following youngsters established as either quality starters, or decent backups:
Sims-Walker
Thomas
Dillard
Miller
Monroe
Britton
Knighton
Cox
Alexander
Russel Allen
Add in the usual veterans like Mojo & Mathis, and some potentially good players like Harvey and Jennings. That “core” of players is TONS better than what we had going into the off-season this year.
this makes me happy to see
There are some solid players on this list. If Gene can have another solid draft (minus our 2nd round pick) this team is by far on the rise and makes me excited to see.
And a scat back
For third downs.
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Is he more
Speedy or elusive? Both would be great.
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Sounds good
We just need a homerun threat other than Jones-Drew. A Reggie Bush type playmaker would be great. Noel Devine would be pretty sick. The Jags could have a lot of options with a playmaker like that. Drew split wide, Devine in the backfield. Sounds good.
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I like Noel Devine
He’s a MJD type RB. i also like Evan Royster i think that’s his name
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I think my favorite
super underrated player is a guy out of ASU, Dimitri Nance. He’s not a chance of pace really, but I still really like him.
For chance of pace guys, I like one of the guys out of TCU, Ryan Christian.
Curtis Steele is another 3rd down guy out of Memphis. He’s a cross between a Chris Johnson and Benard Scott.
Anthony Dixon
Out of Miss. State. He’s not a scat back by any means, but I think he is going to have a great pro career as a lead back. Guy reminds me of Beanie Wells with slightly less speed, but nice open field burst and great power.
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We may have deep threat WR in either
MSW, Williamson, or Underwood.
LB is a need,
DT is strong but if we trade henderson, I’d want another, and OG, OC really need help.
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Williamson and Underwood
Both have some work to do in training camp next season. I think we keep these receivers next year, in no particular order
Sims-Walker
Holt
Thomas
Dilliard
Williamson
Underwood?
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What do you think of Nate Highes?
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He Could
Beat out Underwood with a good training camp/pre-season. But he is going to have to find a niche as our true deep threat. Because I don’t see him offering too much as a intermediate or short receiver. He struggles to catch contested balls.
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Hughes could be a
a short pass receiver too, as long as it’s like right off/on the line of scrimmage.
Word
I could see him catching screens for us. We have to throw to him behind the line of scrimmage or thirty yards downfield. Nowhere in between.
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+10
Rome wasn’t built in one off-season. And this is just one game. When we win, we talk all week about all the positives. When we lose, we focus all week on the negatives. Truth be told, our team has a lot of positives. Every team in the NFL has negatives, even the mighty Colts. The Jags are headed in the right direction.
And it’s funny how some people think that Tom Bradys and Peyton Mannings grow on trees. QBs are only as good as their supporting cast – very, very, very few can win without a great team around them. (Remember everybody thought Sanchez was the steal of the draft when the season began – where’s all the hype now.)
In other words, just drafting a good QB is not the cure-all.
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
Rome wasn’t built in one off-season.
Neither was Sparta. ;)
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LOL!!!
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
+1
Way to have the right perspective.
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by MoveThoseChains on Dec 14, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
I don’t know if everybody would call it the “right” perspective – I can’t quite remember but I think I’ve been wrong before.
But imagine how much damage we might be doing this time next year with another year of this team being together and another stellar draft!
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
our biggest need no doubt
is interior OFFENSIVE LINEMEN! you heard that right. and then any sort of playmaking Dlinemen. i dont care what else we get. stack the lines.
by harveyismyboy on Dec 14, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
better find a qb
Until they find a qb, the Jags will be mediocre at best just like the $60 million choker they have now.
Garrard didn't choke
didn’t play well. Not horrible, but he didn’t choke. His only pass on the last viable drive was a 16 yd completion. Can’t blame him fro anything that happens after that.
So should we lead off our scouting reports in February with QBs?
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 14, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply actions
Nope
How bout defensive ends…
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I still
want a DE in the first round. If I had to pick a position. As many needs as we still have, I wouldn’t mind trading down. Seems as though Gene drafts 1st rounders in the 3rd round anyhow. I wonder if Carolina is interested. haha
Ha
Defensive end is still a big need.
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Yeah,
besides Safety, Interior O-line, a Pass-rush specialist, QB is a big concern/need.
I’m also going to continue finding some more under the radar guys who could pan out to be big. So far i’ve liked:
Tony Pike (Cincinnati),
Tim Hiller (Western Michigan),
Dan Lefevour (Central Michigan),
John Skelton (Fordham),
Andy Dalton (TCU, Junior),
Bill Stull (Pittsburgh),
Levi Brown (Troy).
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I was the first to mention Pike on this site
perhaps because i now live around Cincinnati, but I love the guy
by harveyismyboy on Dec 14, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Where in Cincinnati do you live?
I live by UC, and I love Pike too.
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by MoveThoseChains on Dec 14, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
When Cincy started getting some national attention, I found
about Pike.
I’d be very happy to get Tony.
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QB OR BAP
There are enpugh good QB’S in this draft that we do not have to draft one in the first round of the draft. We have other pressing needs to fill, Also not every team needs a qb this year so we should be even better than 2009
Remenber it is not who you are , but what you do that defines you. GO JAGS
Gene has a plan
I believe in Gene and what he is doing. He would never have made the mistakes and buried this franchise the way Harris did. He will turn this around but it will take 2 more years because if he didn’t know it before yesterday, he knows it now – this team needs a quarterback or it isn’t going anywhere.
BREAKING NEWS:
Jaguars activated FB Brock Bolen from practice squad. Waive CB/KR Brian Witherspoon.
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Good
Witherspoon is about worthless.
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YES!
I really liked Brock in preseason, I hope he can prove to be a good UDFA pickup. As for Witherspoon, he just didn’t have it and I felt better when Mike Thomas ran it back….to the 40.
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We have now 14 rookies and 28 new guys on the 53 roster....
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
The Future is very young
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Yeah
But can these guys earn the playoffs this year?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
They've fulfilled their purpose
The ultimate objective is to save the team, which i believe they’ve set in motion. I want us to milk the Colts sellout to the last drop.
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Why is everyone so happy
to get rid of Spoon. He was doing job as a gunner. He had the best return average of anyone on the team. He hasn’t turned the ball over this year. (He did twice last year) But what more did you guys want from the guy. I want our best returners, that we have left, to play either on offense or defense only.
Something
Else Devine would provide, a returner who could score a few touchdowns. We need some more playmakers.
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I Love How
After every loss, this blog erupts with quarterback talk. But after every win, everyone doesn’t mention it. Garrard played well with what plays where called.
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I'll say it every day if you want
David Garrard looks excellent at times and terrible at others. He is way too inconsistent for my taste and this team will turn a corner once they get a QB who can put in a good performance week in and week out.
He played
Well with the plays given to him bro. I’m sorry, its my opinion and I feel its a good one. On the game winning drive, the one time he was able to pass he completed to Marcedes for a first down. The playcalling was bad yesterday, I usually support Koetter, but the playcalling sucked. Add in a sorry interior line, and I’m not sure many QBs would be putting up outstanding numbers.
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Exactly
No turnovers, when he was given time and a receiver remembered how to run a route he put one up for 62 yards. Had that pass been to Deshaun Jackson or Chad Ochocinco, it would have been a touchdown and not a field goal.
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I wish we had a
Desean. At this point I would even have settled for a Williamson. I think our WR’s let us down a little in that game. No one seemed to be able to stay on their feet or get open.
Player
Like him only comes around once a decade. A return man who can play receiver as well. Devin Hester can return all day long, but he can’t play receiver.
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Man
I was such a proponent of his coming out of college. Had seen play since college. He went to the same high school as Marcedes Lewis. I don’t think a person on the planet can adjust to a pass better than he can. And there are no better punt returners. Could become the best in the league, possibly ever.
I Agree
He is a rare breed. To think the Eagles got him in the second round is sickening; fell that low just because of his size. He was amazing last Sunday night, there were three times where I legitimately said “Wow” out loud. That was the most burst I’ve ever seen in a punt return. He went from standing still to full speed in about 6 yards.
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Really?
I knew Desean went to Poly, but for some reason I didn’t know Marcedes went there. Seems like I should’ve had it the other way around.
Speaking of
Ocho Cinco and “terrible”…Carson Palmer did not complete a pass over 15 yards. The former pro bowler had a whopping total of 94 yds passing.
And for those that thought that Garrard was so horrible against the Niners, Warner just threw for a grand total of 178 yds with no TD’s 2 picks and 2 fumbles. Keep in mind this is the same guy that took them to the SB. And he had his entire allotment of healthy receivers in Boldin, Fitz, Breaston, and even Early Doucet.
Why do these QB’s seem to get a pass every week, and we ever want to do is replace Garrard with Tim Tebow or some other unproven college QB.
We don't - They do.
Some of us believe David can do it. He does have off games and he has sharp games. A QB hit like David has been is lucky to stay two years in the league.
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+Infinity
Exactly. Warner looked horrible last night. I went over to the Cardinals blog, and they are blaming other things, like you said Warner got a pass. So did Palmer. David G is a player, just needs the pieces.
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Well guys
I think we are at the point of the season where we can all say, win or lose, that the future looks bright for our beloved Jaguars. Our receiving corps look to be fixed, our offensive line has improved, our defense is improving each week, and the rookies look EXCELLENT! The Jaguars are a team on the rise and us real fans know it. We can moan about Garrard, but when he is good, he is really good. When he is bad, he is really bad. He is OUR quarterback, and I back him until Gene sees fit to put some pressure on him to perform consistently or get some young gun to put him on the bench. All I can ask for on Thursday is that we show America that we are a team to be reckoned with. For all intents and purposes, we are still in the playoff lead. We win and we are in! Yeah we gotta go 3 – 0, but isn’t that what getting respect is all about? Isn’t that what will put butts in the seats for next year? Isn’t that more than we could have asked for this season? I am proud of the team and the way they fought yesterday. We are a team on the rise and this time I think we can say that Gene and Jack will keep us in that position for years to come.
by DeeMoe on Dec 14, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It would really help us out, if you guys beat the Pats
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It'd help us if you lost to the Titans and Texans,
maybe we could help each other?
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No if we kick the Pats ass somehow
Thae Phins and we can go to the playoff TOGETHER!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Miami being the AFC East champion, not a wild card
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by MoveThoseChains on Dec 14, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yep!
If we winout; we are the 6th seed!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Oh
For a moment I forgot the Patriots actually had a down to earth record this year.
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Nah you guys can just help us that one time.
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by Patssuck456 on Dec 14, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope they do
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Injury report(yeah we have one already)
29 (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Indy player NOT practiced today; and 2 was rested officialy Bethea and Freeney:
http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=injuryreport
From the Jags MSW; Ingram; and Greg Jones DNP; Cox; Henderson; Mathis; MJD; Zach Miller; Daryl Smith; J. Williams and Forney was limited…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions
this is a joke
http://www.jaguars.com/News/injuryreport.aspx
I mean the Colts IReport…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
alot of benchwarmers
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It is almost Patriots-ish...
I hope it misfires Thursday
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
The radio guys were calling for garrard's head,
and Pete Prisco said he has “sources” which say Jaguars will draft a Qb in the first round. Personally i think if Garrard had a good O line, which is a luxury on itself, he’d be pretty good. However, last game he was partially to blame for being inaccurate even when he was given time.
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I don't care about Prisco
I care about what Gene will do!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
same here
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Beat the Pats!
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions
We will do all we can BUT
They always beat us-in 2005 playoffs; 2006 regular game at home(we missed the plyoff because of that-partly) and in 2007 playoffs…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 14, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
well this is the year to beat them...
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Off topic
What kind of camera took the pics? They’re nice.
Nikon d5000
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The Jags are in such good shape...
Think about it – the weakness’s lie in low draft positions. Guard/center – LB – safety.
Yeah okay we need a QB and another D Lineman and not having that 2 pick will hurt bad – but if the Jags can assemble a draft like last year or should I say as valuable as last year – get the shades out baby – I see an AFC South Title! (start with small steps).
Great Game
I’m a Dolphins fan, and I’ll admit, it was a rollercoaster. I guess it’s essentially the same experience that a Jags fan would have had, with the Fins being fortunate enough to come out with the win. The Dolphins came out dominant and every bounce went in our favor. Later on, everything was going the Jag’s way. It seems like the Dolphins were given every opportunity to put the game away but couldn’t capitalize until, literally, the final seconds. Conversely, the Dolphins did everything they possibly could to let the Jags take the lead, and once again, they couldn’t put it away either.
Do us a favor, Jags, and kick some Patriot ass. If we win out and you win out, maybe we’ll see each other this post-season.
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Word
Maybe if we weren’t missing our best defensive lineman, best defensive back, and our number 1 receiver wasn’t playing crippled the end result would’ve been different. I’d love to meet them again in the playoffs.
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Preseason, every year
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