Jags fall to Colts in Thriller: Bye - Bye - Bye... PLAYOFFS!
The title says it all... Peyton can't be beat... Garrard can... End of story...
Offensively, props to Rashad Jennings, MJD, and Marcedes Lewis
Thumbs down to Brock Bolen. He missed to many blocks. Also, Vince Manuwai looked bad again. C'mon man!
-Collin
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My hat off to you all...
This is probably the best game you guys have played all year… Your team played their hearts out and you all should be very proud….
Thanks-another classy gesture
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 17, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
great game guys
maybe the Colts took the game so serious because they don’t want to see the Jags in the playoffs.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Thanks Joe-another classy Colts fan
I wish your team all the best in the rest of the season.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 17, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'm gonna be honest, I don't
shake n bake is a classy Colts fan and all the Colts fans I talked to this week were very classy, but that doesn’t make me want to root for them. I don’t like them and I never will. I hope they lose their next 3.
by Adam Stites on Dec 17, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I tried to be classy too Adam.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 17, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry
If Collin gets to be a jerk once a year when we play the Dolphins, I feel I’m entitled to at least one jerk comment a year against the Colts.
by Adam Stites on Dec 17, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
No problem
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 17, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
socal i wouldn't expect anything else :)
you can be classy and hate a team i think :)
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Dec 18, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
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Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 18, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
My problem is
When the O played well-The D was bad; when D come to live; the O died (almost). Can we do both?
That ST TD was baaaaad.
So as Nelson-Sorry Reggie; the coach wanna see you and your playbook-Patience is over.
Congratulation to MJD; Mike Thomas (1st TD in the NFL); and Russell Allen (bye bye Clint ?!)
David is a good QB who will be never be an elite QB. But I don’T blame him. He played well
But this heartbreaking loss ruined my day at it has 18 hours (plus a rewatch the game with the Hungarian commentators)
And one more question: WHY THE O couldn’t play like that on LAST SUNDAY????
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 17, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions
By the way
it looks like this will be an 8-8 season. The ideal record before the season started- now it is bittersweet-a bit…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 17, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
BUT I need to say one more thing
Dispite the loss: I’M proud of the team; what they done so far. We need to collect more talent; and soon we are a REAL playoff contender!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 17, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think the biggest
mistakes the coaches made was to not have let Anthony Smith early enough. He played well once he got in there. Probably would’ve meant Nelson wouldn’t have played as much.
2. I think Groves should more early on. We weren’t getting enough pressure early on. I don’t think we sold out against the pass. In other words I wouldn’t have started Ellison over Groves.
I see enough of Nelson
I hope Gene can trade him for a lower round pick to…. somewhere.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
Just get rid of him
A 7th rounder with Gene picking would be twice as good. If we get any pick higher than that, it’s a bonus.
by DownTownJax on Dec 18, 2009 12:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And one more question: WHY THE O couldn’t play like that on LAST SUNDAY????
I think maybe it’s because your team seems to always bring their A+ game against the Colts, one heck of a game you have nothing to feel ashamed about.
by Ufanforreal on Dec 18, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah that is a good Q...
Answer is inconsistency!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I think this is one of the best Jaguars teams
I’ve ever seen. Garrard was threading the needle with all those TD passes. This game could have gone either way. While I’m happy my team won, I respect the hell out of the Jags. They are one gritty, tough team!
Thank you
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
oh and also, I'm not sure you all know the pain it causes us Colts fans to watch MJD
knowing that the Colts were just one pick away from getting both him and Addai (Polian said at some point after the draft that they would have taken MJD in the 1st if Addai had been gone, and they would have taken him if he had fallen the one extra pick to them in the 2nd round). Instead we got Tim Jennings (#23, target on numerous 1st down passes tonight), who sucks and we hate him.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
A victory would have been so sweet
The stadium rocked, the energy was good, the Jaguars outplayed the Colts for three quarters.
A victory would have been so sweet…..
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Wish I could've been there...
So close, and yet….not that far. I’ll take that this year.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 18, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
I'M proud of the team Terry
But I’m empty abit too. It will be a sad Friday today…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
outplayed?
not sure about that. The Colts offense was moving at will against the Jag defense. I call it a wash
by metal_militia on Dec 18, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
It was like each offense answered the other
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
Fuck MJD
Didnt mean that as an insult, its just frustrating how the Colts consistently cant tackle him and yet dont have many problems against other premiere backs. If only Polian found a way to trade up and get him like he said he wanted. Then it would make our running game awesome and eliminate the problems he gives our defense.
But we could've got Jennings
That guy’s money
by Adam Stites on Dec 18, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
how about trade. MJD for Jennings straight up. Jennings is money as you said
by metal_militia on Dec 18, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
I like the use of a catch phrase on this
Maybe it can be the new “We have to execute better” Reggie Nelson has another DYNAMIC game! Love it!
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
A little good news for you guys
The sold out stadium gave the Jaguars enough to pass the Lions in average home attendance by one fan per game.
Yeah
I hope the stadium will be looking ALWAYS like this next season!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
You know I keep hearing people say Tebow will sell tickets
I don’t live in Jacksonville, so I don’t see the bumper stickers and what not, but it seems like drafting him would decrease ticket sales. It seems like more Jaguar fans would be pissed off if he was drafted.
by Adam Stites on Dec 18, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
The guys who don’t go to the game all want him.. And those who are going to games don’t. Another schizophrenic sign. But I think Gene will not draft him. I think a safety; a C and a DE is missing more then a QB….
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
The problem is...
You internet fans don’t have a finger on the pulse of the town. So you don’t know. That’s the bottom line. You may think you know, but you don’t. You couldn’t possibly.
Tebow would sell tickets, at least for a year. That’s not good enough. If he sucks it backfires.
Unless Gene thinks that Tebow is the answer as a player with a specific position it doesn’t matter. I don’t think he’s going to draft for marketing. And it makes sense. The town has to support the Team. Not an individual, no matter how much a homegrown hero might mean to said town.
Vae Victis!
Like I said
I don’t live in Jacksonville, so I wouldn’t know like you guys know.
by Adam Stites on Dec 18, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed...........
u guys just dont know the effect of the Gators on Jacksonville………you dont think a lot of season ticket holders didnt renew when we cut Fred? well now you know
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
Gators fans are bandwagon fans
If they start to like the Jags because we draft Gators, they will expect the same type of record. When we end up with Reggie Nelson or Derrick Harvey instead of Fred Taylor, well, you already get the picture. We need talent, not hype. Tebow was shown up by a mediocre Alabama quarterback, whatever makes people think he can be like Peyton or Brees escapes me.
by DownTownJax on Dec 18, 2009 12:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bravo
You mean hype is not a replacement for talent? You, good sir, are crazy. Don’t you know that this is the NFL, and just by hearing Tim Tebow’s name DB’s are supposed to shit their pants?
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
What of the reverse?
Remember when Tebow showed up Bradford? What about Stafford?
The QBs aren’t squaring off against one another. It’s the defense a man has to wrap his mind around, understand how to diffuse it, dissect it. That’s what makes a great QB, the brain.
Save the Tebow remarks, I know what you’re going to say because you’ve written it before. I get it. That horse is dead, boys.
I’m not posting this with the intention of lobbying for the Jags to draft Tim. It’s out of our hands.
I just don’t like seeing people speaking disparagingly against men who do things that they themselves couldn’t hope to. I feel the same for those that are hating on Garrard. And again, save it because I know the reality of our situation. I just don’t understand the point of verbally nuking a guy. I think people who constantly crash upon others in judgment should always exemplify their standard for themselves before applying it to another.
And I know that none of us are NFL QBs, so just take my remarks home with you, apply it to whoever you are and whatever you do. Look to the mirror before you look to your neighbor.
That’s what I think. I could be wrong.
Vae Victis!
It's not Tebow that I'm against, it's his unquestioning fans
People put way too much emotional stock in this guy. Those of us who point out his downfalls aren’t doing it to make ourselves feel better, we do it to bring the discussion back to reality. We don’t feel like he is the answer and want to make it clear. By the way, Alabama’s Defense was ranked behind Florida’s before the game started. Please just trust the new management of the Jaguars to pick good players. I am not a Tebow hater, I am a Tebow as a first draft pick hater.
You really are in a bad mood
Attacking me isn’t going to help your cause at all. Please use reason and logic and evidence to make a case.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
No, I'm fine.
It’s not personal. I’m mad at your words. I’m in a great mood. You can tell, because when I’m angry I devolve. I don’t form sentences well, I go into physical mode…which is ineffective and useless because this is the internet and I can’t reach you.
A swing and a miss, folks!
Sorry, man. I hope I didn’t hurt your feelings. It’s just that, in my experience, Seminoles are quick to take a shot at all things Gator. Which is fine. However, Go Ponder!
I mean it about Ponder, I like that guy. We’ll see about Jimbo. Won’t we?
Vae Victis!
You know what
You’re alright man. We don’t have to agree about everything here, but you’ve got passion about this team. I can’t fault you for that. We have different thoughts about what is best for the team, but in the end, it’s what we both want. You’ve got my respect.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
Also
You might want to push your glasses up some, they’ve slipped down to the end of your nose. How’s that for reason or logic? I missed on both counts you say? Well, I guess that makes me the dork.
Vae Victis!
Is it the whole software developer thing?
People really love to pick on that… but not in person. I played left prop in rugby and could squat about 850 pounds on an H Press (Not anymore). You got me all wrong.
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By The Way
Please don’t do Ad Hominem attacks. I like that you brought up Bradford and Stafford, those are good points, but personal attacks will never prove a point and don’t help the discussion.
Oh, I'll do as a please...
Look, I yield that Tebow may not translate as a QB to the NFL. Many others who support him as a man have as well. He may do excedingly well, or he may fall flat. We’ll see.
It’s in the hands of Gene, no one disputes that. The question is, if by some cruel twist of fate Gene actually drafts Tebow, what will that mean to you? Will you stand by him (Gene) then? Will you support the team? I doubt it. You’ll line up with the rest of those that wish they could, but can only muster hate for those that can and cry your wittle eyes out. You’ll stomp your feet and gnash your teeth. Won’t you?
Fear…
That’s what the venom is about, whether you’ll admit it or not, it’s fear. Fear that it may actually happen. If you’re truly confident that it will not come to pass, aren’t you wasting your time on the subject? Let it go. I love Tebow, but I love the Jags enough to forget him as soon as he dons the jersey of another team.
The fact is, you are afraid. Fret not. Most people are afraid of something. Your phobia is Tim. Good luck with that.
I’ll be excited for my Jags either way. I look forward to April. And I look forward to the game against the Pats. Go Jags! Go Garrard! Go shut up, haters!!!
Yay!
Vae Victis!
I said it before
If he takes us to the Superbowl, I’ll eat my words and love it. I’m not going to cancel my season tickets based upon who we draft or cut. If Tim Tebow takes us to the Superbowl in an undefeated season, I will be sitting in the stands cheering him on at every home game. I’ll even buy a jersey with his name on it. My fear is that in two years, Jacksonville will suffer a dramatic blow. It kills me to think that this team could leave. We all want what is best for this team and this city.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
On that we agree
I need this team. Even if the rest of Jax could do without them, I could not. I’d have to be a Falcons fan? I guess…
I certainly wouldn’t love the Jags if they left. I’d understand, I wouldn’t blame them, but I wouldn’t forgive them. I may give up the NFL all together.
It would suck.
BUY SEASON TICKETS FOR 2010, FOLKS!! Do it!
Now!
Vae Victis!
I agree with you
I need this team too. I really love Jacksonville, and I would love to buy a condo downtown. It scares me to death to think of what would happen buying a place downtown and then watch the team leave. This team has been the catalyst for this city, and it is the only reason that Downtown has anything fun to do. I’m done with talking about college football
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What should scare you
Is the association fees that go along with some of the downtown condos. The bigger the building the more it costs to maintain it. And everyone who owns splits the cost, like it or not. Yikes!
Sorry I harassed you with college talk. Forgive me, and I’ll let it go.
Vae Victis!
It's like a country club membership
I hate mowing lawns, doing upkeep and dealing with traffic, so the average association fees aren’t bad. The one time repairs are scary though..I just love being downtown and walking outside to take the river taxi to the games is a breeze. It really is great on gameday to tailgate at the pool. Who knows, maybe I’ll even host a BCC party at the pool for next year. As long as everyone is wearing teal. :)
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That's right, Frank
It’s sad, but true. I know more than a few that didn’t renew because Fred was cut. That’s where we are. It is what it is.
Vae Victis!
If the Jags play like last night...
You can take the tarp off the second level seats. That was some damn good football. Easily the best effort made against the Colts, and the first close game that was not decided by a coaching error. It came down to the players this time and you guys have some great players.
oh well
i had a great time at the game. it was exciting, the crowd was amazing, and the weather was perfect. we definitely need to address the interior of the offensive line. also, as much as i hate to say it, reggie nelson needs a new brain or we need a new free safety. i’d like to see alexander and considine as the two deep safeties and toss nelson out.
overall though, great game, great effort.
A new brain?
That’s so crazy, it just might work.
by Adam Stites on Dec 18, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
god nelson blowsss
but what about Anthony smith starting? he has been playin extrenmly well with us.
by harveyismyboy on Dec 18, 2009 6:47 AM EST up reply actions
He got an INT i believe
so he got some playing time
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
Deflection
He deflected the pass to 52, but it could just as well have gone back to a Colt. It was a lucky play, he would have looked really stupid if a Colt got it. Probably would have wiffed on the tackle too.
by DownTownJax on Dec 18, 2009 2:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry
Thought you meant Nelson got an INT. Wasn’t about to give any credit on that play.
by DownTownJax on Dec 18, 2009 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He did cause
the pass to be intercepted. Also think he may have intercepted another pass later in the game.
Word
That looked like a pic from where I was sitting. I wanted Jack to challenge it.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
It definitely bounced up into his chest
I was saying it bounced off his hand, but my brother and dad said I was crazy so I just let it go.
I'm not okay with this loss
As I’ve said before, I hate to lose. I have that gut wrenching feeling again. We played well until we had two chances to get up on Peyton Manning and put the game out of reach. We went three and out both times, for the first time all game, that was when we chose to not execute and have to punt. We just pissed down our leg when we had that three point lead, and like I said while I watched it, sitting there in the stadium, it came back to bite us in the ass.
Reggie Nelson needs to be replaced this year. I’m getting sick of him being out of position, and then giving sorry ass effort on tackles. He was the final hitter on two plays that turned into touchdowns.
I still love Garrard as a guy, I think the guy has great swag; but tonight I think I came to the realization that, he isn’t the true answer at quarterback. He played great football, just like last year in the Thursday night game, but he blew it when it mattered most, and overshot a wide open receiver. I’m pissed at you right now Garrard, but you’re still my favorite current Jag.
The pass rush, as usual, was sorry.
I’m gonna go try to find a cure to this feeling I get, whenever I lose in anything. So far I haven’t found a cure…
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
Garrard isn't the issue
I’ve watched a lot of bad football being a Colts fan prior to 2000. And I mean the worst. Garrard is an incredible quarterback who plays inside a fairly simple offense. That’s the issue. Garrard doesn’t have four of five options on a play like Manning did. Garrard has two or three. And it’s just easier for coverage to be there when Garrard has to throw. There were a few plays last night where I thought you guys borrowed Payton – one was that ridiculous TD throw where Garrard found the open man over the middle on an all out blitz. That’s what great QBs do.
The pick at the end? Well, that’s as much on the receiver who failed to jump or defense the football as it was on Garrard. Believe me, we’ve seen Manning throw a few picks identical to that one.
I Hear Yah Man
I was pissed at Garrard last night. But like you said, once I was able to distance myself from the game, I realized Garrard had his best game of the season. His offensive line still got him killed as usual, but had some times where they put it together and gave good protection. I loved his quickness against the all out zero blitz. Hell of a throw for a quarterback a lot of people say holds on to the ball too long.
Had he not thrown that pick at the end that would have been the best game of his career.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
still love 'em
Win or lose…the jags are still my team. It’s been a roller coaster season but a hell of a season, and i’m proud of these guys. Can’t wait to see them play in Cleveland, so i can cheer them on in person for the first time this year.
I thought the same thing as Zoltan...
Why can’t the O and the D work well at the same time?
It was a hell of a game… edge of my seat the whole damn time. Exciting for sure. David screwed up at crunch time this week. It’s strange, other weeks he’s crunch-time and sucks the other 3 quarters. This week, he’s hot for 3, and starts losing it late….
Anyway, we can still get in the playoffs, we just need help…. so there’s that.
It's not over
Maybe it’s my optimistic nature but we are far from out of the playoffs. Yes the road is much harder and our rope is much shorter but we aren’t the only team that can have a collapse. We played an excellent game in which I’m proud of our guys. They played with as much heart as you can and displayed some talent in the process. Were not an elite team yet but we are well on our way. It’s not over yet. Obviously it’s not a win and in scenario but I encourage you not to lose hope. What else can you turn to besides looking onto next year? Exactly, nothing. Enjoy the feeling of a meaningful December while it’s here and maybe, just maybe the dice will roll our way and we’ll sneak in. Otherwise be proud of what you guys have in Jacksonville.I’ve been a huge fan ever since I started watching football when I was 7 and the jags just joined the league. I only wish I could go to a game. I’ve lived in a Chicago suburb my whole life and now go to eastern Illinois university. I almost got tickets to the jags colts game in week 1 but I had my first day of school the next day.
by Red White and Teal on Dec 18, 2009 1:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Thanks guys. You rock ; )
Number 27 is a hell of a DB.
Can’t blame Gerard as he just about matched the greatest Qb of all time pass for pass. He had 1 bad pass to an open Holt. The INT could be blamed on a mis-timed jump by the receiver. He had the Colts pooping bricks. You totally exposed the Colts weeknesses but those lucky bastards keep marching on. 7 times they have come back in the 4th. they are playing with fire and might be 1 and done in the playoffs.
Jack Del is the man. Your luky to have him. Your O-coord. called a near perfect game. Like everyone else, Clark dominates all LB’s. I’d replace an LB with another safety.
Your not out of it yet. We have the Steelers in Pitt.. The Jets play SD and Miami plays Pitt to name a few potential loses.
Thanks but we have the Pats away
And we have not so much luck there….
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
We're
Winning that game. We are going to beat the Pats.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
Met Derek Cox today
All I had to say was " I can’t wait to see you pick off Tom Brady next week" He had a huge smile after that. These guys can’t wait to make a statement.
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by DownTownJax on Dec 18, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's cool
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
The refs call that should have been 4th
led to a touchdown drive, and in the end the colts won due to having those points. No bad ref call + manning being cheap and hurrying up the play (he was even too fast for the media crew!) = Jags win this game.
Sorry to you guys :/
what was that no flag false start that nuliffied marcedes 20 yrder? BULLSHIT!!
by harveyismyboy on Dec 18, 2009 6:50 AM EST up reply actions
they corrected it to say it was
illegal formation… still not sure why they could never find the flag.
I saw it happening
I freaking out before the snap. I was like nooooo. Then I was cheering when I didn’t see a flag. The problem was Marcedes stepped up to the line of scrimmage, and Mike Thomas never got off the line. Rookie mistake. Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Dillard could be doing Holt’s job, but better. There was like 3 instances where if he would have jumped he could have made the critical catch.
Jags are better than their record reflects
I’m and Indy fan,…but also an NFL fan,I just wanted to say that I was really impressed with the Jags O on Thursday night,..and it seems to be the story of the season for the Jags,…another heart breaking loss.The Jags have lost most of their games by just a few points,…they could easily be the one on the undefeated train.The thing I see with the Jags is simply closing out the game when they have the chance,..that is the only thing I can see they need to improve upon,and when they fix that,…you will see their record reflect it.The Jags are a young team,and inexperienced,but that will change next year,…I have alot of respect for you guys,and just wanted to say that you guy’s have a great football team,and one to be proud of.
I disagree
I think this team’s record is exactly reflective of their level right now. They’re still in the middle of rebuilding and a group of such young players should be proud to be 7-7 and also proud of a heartfelt performance on national TV.
Yeah thanks
but I think we are at BEST a 8-8 team. We bring the hell to the Colts (but the end always losing-well mostt of the time; not allways) We need things to fix (passrush; a safety who can tackle; Offense and Defense played great AT THE SAME TIME; ) and then the jaguars will be a contender. We need 1-2 years and Gene Smith’s (our version of Bill Polian?) wisdom and good player policy.
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 3:24 AM EST up reply actions
My only sore spot on the game is
the play of Reggie “cant tackle” Nelson. He has to be replaced. His shoulder tapping, maybe I can slap the ball, give 5 yards of cushion, I will never be great, playing style is not meant for the Jaguars. Trade him, cut him, whatever……….just make him go away.
That and David's collaspe in the 4th qtr
he had a great 1st 3 qtrs then turned to dog poo. Inconsitency – thy name is David Garrard.
Reggie Nelson – I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a tackling display in professional football as Reggie has performed this year. There are really no words to discribe.
You know
I feel like MJD, no moral victories here. I think this was the best game of the season, though. I know this was a rebuilding year and I’m not supposed to be emotional and keep it all in perspective but I AM PISSED!!!! All we had to do was win and we’re in the playoffs! %$@$ Reggie Nelson! Looking forward to the next two games. Can David bring it again and have a chance to redeem himself? Can the team show some consistency? Vic’s inbox is in trouble.
We all seem to be in agreement...
Reggie, Reggie, Reggie… You make our defense look embarassing. I try to stand by you man, but another televised event shows your short comings. Was it me or did it seem like some (not many) of those passes to the secondary could have been defended with a hand out?
Other than that – an awsome game. And another thing – I was on the fence about this, but I truley believe that with a little tougher O line, maybe a RB to spell MJD, and a supporting defense, Garrard could take this team deep into the playoffs. I know he gets inconsistant, but last nights game, before the air ride passes (which I think is a confidence problem), he looked better than most NFL QB’s, Rotherlisberger – esque.
Can it happen? What do you think is the window on MJD and David? 2-3 years or more like 3-4 years?
yeah, the sad thing is
if we had anyone better on the team he’d surely be playing.
If only Reggie Heyward had stayed healthy I think we’d be looking at a much better year.
Agreed
Garrard played great last night up until the end. The more I look at it, the receiver may have mistimed his jump. Either way, it shouldn’t have been thrown as a jump ball. It’s so easy to have passes sail on you.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
The pass sailed
because he couldn’t step into the throw. Had the protection been even slightly better, things could have been different.
Same Here
I watched the game all over early today. Meester stepped back into him right before Garrard released the ball.
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I thought he did
when I first saw it, but I couldn’t confirm it. Too bad. It’s those little things that change games, that no one notices.
Word
Garrard catches the blame of the whole town.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
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What a stand up guy too
didn’t even mention it in post game conference as far as I can remember. I wonder how much other blame he’s taking that isn’t talked about.
Word
Postgame, he said (not verbatim, but close) “I threw it too high for Mike, and it resulted in an interception.”
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Eric Berry for out 1st round pick sounds good after that game...
Was a great game either way… I think if we didn’t spot them the 7 points on that kickoff return, we may have ended up winning. I think after that great drive for the score, for that to happen, it kind of deflated the team a bit.
In the face of adversity, what you do from then on dictates who you really are...
Didn't that already happen?
What was that guys name? Reggie or somethin
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Pretty Sure
It was for need as well. At the time our best safety was Sammy Knight
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Braks
not a good nickle type week to week. He’s not quick enough to hold up against players like Wes Welker or Davon Bess. He is a player though so I think he could be an average player there. Just don’t think he would be an upgrade there.
Anthony Smith is just like Nelson in that he bites on everything short, not a trait you want in a FS.
T Brack Fan
T Brack is really outperforming right now. We really got a steal with him. I love to see guys make the team and move on up. I hope he stays long term for special teams.
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by DownTownJax on Dec 18, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm really looking forward
to seeing how this team comes out next week.
Do they pack it in with the playoffs likely gone ? I don’t care if they win the game but I’d be very satisfied if they played with the effort they did tonight.
As strange as it sounds, the Colts have a better defense than NE does. If the team can find a way to get motivated for that game, they can win it.
Game
It was a great game last night/ Wehad our chance to win it but came up short. My fan post 2010 Jaguars needs stated exactly what we are missing rhis year and will get next.
Reggie Nelson is a back up safety at best unless he learns to wrap up and tackle
Garrard is a average QB who could win the super bowl if all the pieces around him are perfect.
This has been a outstanding season for the Jaguars for it showed them what ls ahead of them
Remenber it is not who you are , but what you do that defines you. GO JAGS
Sorry but
GREAT QB’s aren’t that easy to come by. 31 points should be enough and Garrard made a lot of very good plays along the way.
How long has Tampa been trying to draft a new QB ? How many other teams have drafted guys in the first round who’ve turned into nothing ?
While I totally agree we need to draft a QB for the future, I certainly hope we don’t replace Garrard for the next 2-3 years. I really don’t feel like starting over again and even if you draft a winner, that’s what you’re doing when you start a rookie at QB.
I mean would you rather have Sanchez ? They have a better defense and they’re not winning either. Matt Ryan has played great. No playoffs for them either. Flaco might get BAL to the playoffs… Stafford ? Nope. Tampa has been looking for a QB for years. So has MIN, WAS, OAK, CLE, KC, SF… the list of teams needing a QB is long. And many of those teams would LOVE to have a guy only as good as Garrard as the QB.
+1,000,000
It kills me how people don’t see this logic. Yes, we need to draft a franchise QB. Every team is looking for a franchise QB. I bet even the Colts are looking for one. Manning won’t play forever. How many QB’s are drafted in the first few rounds every year, and how many of them turn out to be better than Garrard? (We have a very good backup QB IMO as well) I am proud of Garrard despite the dissappointing ending. Like the Colts haven’t done this to every other team they have played or something. All Jags fans should be grateful for Garrard.
by Conservative on Dec 18, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
+1
Exactly. Draft a guy in the later rounds and continue to ride your better than average QB for a few more years. Garrard isn’t elite, but last night he showed me he is better than average. I can promise you one thing, Brady Quinn or Jamarcus Russel wouldn’t have had the team anywhere near close to the Colts in the fourth quarter.
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It's official...
Nelson is another 1st round bust. His tackling is a joke.
Time to revel in disappointment
8-8 is fitting, somehow.
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it was the dream goal before the season...
Things change fast huh?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
It's bittersweet, and as a spoiled fan
I was hoping for even better, even though my preseason expectation was met.
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Yeah, this game was disappointing
But considering where this team was last year, the team has made a lot of improvement. There’s no shame in 8-8, considering the talent on this team. We just need a few more drafts to finish building the team.
Thats the plan, yes.
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by TheTealDeal on Dec 18, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
BYE BYE REGGIE
Think about how embarrassed Reggie Nelson must feel this morning. With the whole country and players from all other 30 NFL teams watching and to see that effort. Seeing him for the first time this year, what would you think. I just watched the highlights on the NFL network. The Clark TD was the worst tackling effort I have ever seen. Extend your arms, head across the chest and wrap up. Your supposed to be a professional.
Not from a lack of effort!?
Are you kidding me! Did you see his “effort” at trying to tackle Wayne on that bomb pass? Hell I’ve seen high school CB and FS make more of a serious effort. Watch the play, he GAVE UP ON THE TACKLE!!!! Look at the shoulder bump he gave Clark, which in turn gave Clark the TD, I have three words for that OPEN FIELD TACKLE!!!!!!!!!!! It is football 101, wrap your damn arms around the guy and drag his ass to the ground. Nelson needs to go, trade in the off season cut him, bench him, I don’t care, he has been playing like crap ALL year. For every ‘good’ play he makes there are 4/5 terrible plays along with a dozen half efforts. I’m just grateful that other people are seeing his crap level of play.
Oh and for those of you that like calling for heads after a loss is too much, well watch game tape of Nelson ALL season and ALL last season, then you will understand.
I have to agree with the lack of effort assessment
How hard is it to tackle a guy a couple inches away from you?
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It's many factors
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REGGIE JONES
sorry to continue my reggie rant, but ESPN just destroyed him and his effort. Good. I think he might be the next Matt Jones. He might have played himself off an NFL roster next season with that effort last night.
You guys played a good game last night. I’m hopping on the “Keep Reggie Nelson around because he can’t tackle for shit” bandwagon, but that’s mostly because I want to see him continuing to not tackle Dallas Clark for the next few years.
If you guys could figure out a way to bottle whatever extra juice it is you bring against us every season and use it before every game, you’d win ten games easily.
So, because you guys played a good, tough game, you’ve been upgraded from the Jacksonville Dumpster Fires to the Jacksonville Sparkle Kitties. Get a playoff spot, and we may upgrade you to Jaguars. Get blown out by the Patriots, and you’re back to Dumpster Fires. Have a good season! :)
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Tough game guys. Some observations as an impartial (I mean other than hating the colts) observer.
1. Despite losing Garrard continues to look better. He did this in the Houston game and I saw it again last night. He extended plays AND made some really nice throws under pressure while being hit. He is really making a case for himself.
2. MJD, as always, is a little ball of death and iron. Man that guy is good.
3. The Colts can’t lose apparently. Honestly, every game SOMETHING wierd (as in Notre Dame wierd) happens and the Colts find a way to win. Maybe it’s just their year.
4. You are NOT out of the playoff hunt, yu are just IN the hunt as opposed to IN the playoffs.
5. Overall the Jags have impressed this season considering what the expectations were for this team at the beginning of the year. You have to be happy with that.
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by TexansForever on Dec 18, 2009 10:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the kind words
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by TheTealDeal on Dec 18, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Some of us are happy - Others will get there
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Offense dies after 30 points.
Disregarding the kick return and Nelson not playing like a Cover 2 safety….good teams get it done in crunch time.
We had 4 chances to beat the Colts. During the second half I saw the Colts daring us to run putting 8 even 9 in the box. If your QB can’t make the D pay then somewhere down the line you need to find someone else. I am not blaming Garrard but on several plays he overthrew WRs (Sims-Walker) wildly (Thomas) and almost had the ball intercepted on a number of occasions. It wasn’t like he didn’t have any time or that he had guys all in his face. So you know what I take it back —I do BLAME Garrard.
When you get 4 opportunities to beat a team and close the game you need to have someone do it and Garrard can’t. He showed the exact same thing last week. Numerous times we got the ball back with plenty of time and nothing.
Vic is wrong saying Touchdown Bomb beats Jaguars. No the Jaguars beat the Jaguars as usual.
While I agree
our defense actually stepped up a bit late in that game. In the first half I figured the Colts would score 50 if we gave them the ball enough.
I was SHOCKED twice at the end of the game First, when we punted with 2min+ left. and Second when our defense actually made a stop. I guess with the sack it was like 4th and 30 or something but I still never imagined we’d be able to keep them from running out the clock.
Sometimes you have to find enjoyment in the little things.
Keep in mind
during a lot of those chances, Garrard was let down, by either MJD false starting, Holt not jumping for the ball, Mike Thomas not lining up correctly erasing a 19 yard completion to Marcedes with teh game one the line, or that Zach Miller dropped a would be first down on a great pass under pressure. The point is, just because it’s the 4th qtr it doesn’t mean it isn’t an 11 man team.
Mike Thomas actually casued the illegal formation.
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Playoffs?.....Playoffs?......You wanna talk about Playoffs?
Guys, 9-7 (as long as the other 9-7 team is not the Dolphins) can still get us in based on conference record as long as no one in the wild card hunt is 10 – 6. If we play like we did last night against the Patriots and Browns, I think 9 – 7 is very possible. Good job last night, and go bury the Patriots!!!!!!
Look at it this way too.
If you can beat the Pats, the Phins have a better chance of winning the AFC East, then you won’t have to worry about us for the Wildcard spot.
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by Chupathingy on Dec 18, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
just average
QB payed highly, played just average;
coaching and drafting staff is just average;
thats why we and up 8:8
Wrong
Garrard played above average, and amongst QB’s that have played every game this season or last season, he is being paid below average. He’s paid more than crappy players like Fitzpatrick, Freeman(Crappy right now at least). Wow I’m surprised it’s even that few.
Look at this list of players that are giving less value for their paycheck:
Jake Delhomme, Jay Cutler, Palmer, Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, Tony Romo, Matt Stafford, Matt Cassel, Chad Pennington(Hurt, but availability is the best ability), even Big Ben(Who’s played well, but twice as well? How many 4th qtrs has he won this year? I know he’s lost about 5 with a chance to win.), Could argue Vince Young who’s only played half a season, Kerry Collins who’s not even starting last year but was a pro bowl fav last year, Jason Campbell, Jamarcus Russell, Matt Hasselback, Mark Bulger, Eli Manning.
Now which list looks longer?
Almost every single QB that is performing better than he is, is getting paid more than he is. And not just a little more. Big Ben 40 mill more, Rivers 40 mill more, Eli 40 mill more, Peyton 35 mill more, Donovan McNabb shorter contract but getting paid 50% more per year, Favre 5mill more per year.
Brees and Shaub are the only QB’s being paid evenly with Garrard and performing better, and in both cases they are obviously being underpaid.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 18, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right on
Except I would have to say that Matt Stafford is worth what the Lions paid. Watch the replay of the Cleveland game and he’ll make you a believer. The rest of the team…. that’s a different story.
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by DownTownJax on Dec 18, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
i really dont know where u got ur numbers but garrands numbers are poorly even with a strong running game and here u can look at his payroll.
http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/playersbyposition.aspx?pos=132
Just take the last game. his 4th quarter performance was terrible. how many receivers did he overthrow???
This may make me sound stupid, but
Reggie sucks, yeah, but I think I know what he was thinking going for the strip instead of the tackle. If the Colts have 1st and Goal at the 9 and 5:00 left on the clock they could easily milk a couple of minutes before hitting Clark in the end zone (again). I think he thought “I’ll go for the strip, maybe I’ll get lucky and surprise Reggie Wayne, but if not it will give our offense 5:00 to go 65+ yards for the go ahead score.”
As it was the Jags first drive failed (the Left Guard – I think it was Uche at the time – gave up a sack) it actually gave the Jags a second chance.
That being said, yes, Reggie sucks, and needs to either 1) find a new team or 2) decide I’m not Ed Reed, maybe I should just play within our scheme.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Vic mentioned something today that interested me..
besides saying that Gene will definitely fix it in the offseason….
He mentioned that Gene has been bringing in new Safety’s all year and I’m sure if any of them were better than Nelson, even as bad as he’s been, that guy would be playing.
Personally, I expect someone to be given a chance at that role next week.
Anthony Smith
Guy is always in position, despite coming from nowhere before he got on the Jags. Who had heard of this guy before then?
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I did
particularly when he guaranteed a win with the Steelers when playing the then undefeated patsies. Got burned deep, but I think he can be an asset as a SS. Still can’t believe the Rams cut him. They obviously made a big mistake considering that their franchise safety is on IR now.
He is the guy Bellichek said "We have played better safeties than him"
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Yeah
But I’M sure he will be targeted for interview next week…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 19, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
T-brack is one of the surprises on defense
The guy comes out to play every game, and he gives our secondary much needed, yet talented depth. Great job T-brack, keep up the good work!



















