Colts @Jacksonville - The view from the Stadium
by Tkopa on Dec 18, 2009 9:46 AM EST
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Make no mistake about it, the Colts wanted this game. Although Dwight Freeney didn't start, he came in on a number of series to try and shut us down. When I have more time, I will document how much Eugene Monroe has developed as a left tackle. He has become an amazingly good player, but that is later. We played the Colts even up and take away the return for a touchdown and we might have won this game. I would have to say special teams let us down once and Eben Britton and Reggie Nelson let the team down with poor performances. Other than that, it was a good game. Since you all saw the game on TV, you know the story. Let's look a little deeper.
I don't know what the offensive line did during the week but the fire was back and Maurice had fresh legs again. The only guy I don't like is Eben Britton. He needs a lot of work in figuring out what should be happening. This is your opening drive and if Eben blocks Brock, Drew is free. Nope, didn't happen. Maurice got his 100 yards but surprisingly a lot of runs went to the left, Eugene's side. That is Brock Bolen taking out two Colt defensive guys.
David got nailed on this play and no one blocked. Eugene thought it was Maurice that picks up a blitz but Maurice never moved. I think this is rookie development. This resulted in a field goal.
Somehow I think Reggie thinks he is playing soccer. He doesn't use his hands anymore. This is him on a blitz doing that side blocking stuff again.
This is Reggie on the Dallas Clark touchdown. Again, notice the lack of arms and hands.
Of course stopping Peyton Manning requires a super human effort so Derek Cox has been working on learning to fly. Once he masters this technique, he will be a pro bowl player. Speaking of pro bowl players, it was good to see Rashean back in the game. He had 5 tackles, but his presence changes the game.
Again Eben Britton gets beat. David took a pounding this game and came back each time. Well almost each time. The final drive was not clutch.
David may have had a bad final drive, but on this throw to Mike Thomas he was being hit again. It was a good performance for three quarters. But we needed the fourth quarter to win. With Mike getting his first touchdown, that leaves only Torry Holt shut out this year so far.
The Jaguars are playing in a tough division with rookies. We have come a long way. Let's pray we don't have any serious injuries in the last two games. In short, we almost had fireworks in the stadium last night.
And that ends the 2009 season at the Stadium, 5-3 at home. We are so very close.
- Terry O'Brien
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If anyone gets cut after this game, It's Reggie Nelson...
What a terrible performance by that wuss… I was sick to my stomach. He can’t cover or tackle for crap. He will be traded for a 4th rounder AT BEST after the season. I bet Shack Harris and Gene make a deal for a 3rd, 4th, or 5th rounder for Reggie. The guy flat out blows chunks.
He’s garbage. I have his autograph, went to a special deal to get it, and I don’t even want him on this squad anymore. Just absurd…
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by MoveThoseChains on Dec 18, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Ha
This time Vic drops a not so subtle hint…
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
and not so new
Vic and others have been lamenting Nelson’s play for some time. That’s why we signed Alexander, Considine and others. I would be surprised to Nelson still on the team next year.
We should trade Indy
Nelson for Melvin Bullitt straight up.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
DIFFERENCE.........
- 18…….WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO SAY…….maybe next week will be better.
I wouldn't be too harsh on Nelson for the blitz getting picked up
Addai is an elite pass blocker, hands down his best skill. He regularly stones LBs that come through untouched. Good ones two. Addai got the better of Ray Lewis twice in the Ravens game, once as a runner, and nearly as impressively stopping him dead on a untouched blitz.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Nelson hasnt been anything since his rookie year......
let him ride the bench………pick up eric berry in the draft………..
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
Eric Berry is going to be picked in the top 10
Barring trade we wouldn’t be able to get him.
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good ones too*
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 18, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Cut Him
You are absoultely right, Nelson must go. We are only playing with 10 players when he is on the field b/c he is either, out of position or can’t tackle. Watch the replay of his tip that lead to the interception. He turns, runs up field, but for some reason doesn’t even attempt to block and let’s the Colts player tackle Smith. Make a physical play, contact, anything and Smith might get 20 more yards, b/c it looked like he had blockers downfield.
garrard is raising my eyebrow as well...........
I think we have to start looking at a QB…….. Dont get me wrong. He played great last night……but choked once again. We had plenty of time to score, it wasnt great coverage, it was a bad throw…….im getting tired of his inconsistency.
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
yeah yeah frank
where are you on this site after his 3 comeback game-winning drives earlier this year? but now he carries the team for the whole game and has one bad drive, not the whole fourth quarter, and youre here to rip on him? We all knew he was GOING TO put it in the endzone on the drive in the 4th when marcedes had the 20 yd catch called back for a bullshit ghost false start. no flag was thrown. that drive was going to be a touchdown and you wouldnt be ripping on him today if his line played a little better.
by harveyismyboy on Dec 18, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
yeah yeah nothing..........
it was an illegal formation call anyways…..trust me ive been on david’s side for a long ass time…. we need to draft a replacement soon……. im not saying to cut him right now….maybe drafting a QB will make him play better……he is a good QB that makes bad decisions….. he was GOING TO but HE DIDNT with plenty of time on the 33 yard line…….
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
I hate to say it but I agree
Here is the way I look at it, as a long time DG Defender. 3 possessions in Miami terroritory under 8:00 in the 4th quarter and nothing. 2:16, a timeout and 2 min warning and nothing.12-18, 40%, $60 million. If not last night, when? I guess we get it for the Rams, and Chiefs, but not the big boys. Last night was the stage. It was set, No more excuses. When is the next opportunity? And will it ever be bigger than that? I left the stadium realizing last night that as long as David is our QB, we are nothing but a Wild Card team, if that. I am not expecting the next Peyton under center in Jacksonville, but a QB that has to take advantage of an opportunity, especially when the other team didn’t do anything out of the ordinary to take that opportunity away.
I have mixed feelings on this one
I mean the guy played great for 3 quarters and laid an egg in the 4th. 31 points in the NFL more often then not will win you the game. I think we do find a QB to develop in the draft but, our concerns should be a pass rusher, a center and guards. Our secondary didn’t do too badly last night (just Reggie). The line played very well for the most part too. If we CONSISTENTLY played this well things would be a lot different. The thing that is so great is how the arrow is pointing up for such a young team.
by Jmac823200 on Dec 18, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And I agree with that sentiment
This team needs to find a future QB for this franchise, but the rest of the roster is what needs to be the focal point of the rebuilding.
By no means are the Jaguars one QB away from a Super Bowl. In fact if a new rookie QB was thrust into David’s roles with this squad, I’m sure we’d be worse.
Agreed
We have some work to do on defense. Like JMac said above, 31 points should win you a game.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
haha adam
In fact if a new rookie QB was thrust into David’s roles with this squad, I’m sure we’d be worse.
like theres ever been a rookie QB thats been of MVP caliber?
by harveyismyboy on Dec 18, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
+1
It’s too easy to blame the QB for a loss. David was not the problem Thursday night.
It's easy to blame them
because every single one of them makes mistake on at least 1 offensive play. Just too many moving parts to play perfect so it’s easy to say that one of those mistakes caused to them to lose a close game.
he obviously will stay with us...........
but we need to draft the future of the position next year and start breaking him in…….are there any good QB’s in FA next year??
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
The draft is full of good QBs
Why would you want one from FA?
by Adam Stites on Dec 18, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
And I would imagine
… that plenty o NFL teams are going to be targeting those potentially good QBs. My concern is that we will draft a guy who is slightly better than David, but still nowhere near being the “elite” QB that this team would obviously love to have.
There are 32 teams in the leauge right now
and there might be 4-5 QB’s that I would consider “Elite” and most of those have been around for a # of years.
An Elite QB only comes around once every few years and there are a million different things that factor into their development into that elite status. (i.e. not going to OAK or CLE) .
Just look at Ben Roethlisberger. I seriously doubt he would’ve turned into the QB he is had he gone to CLE. He was fortunate enough to be on a winning program with Defense and a running game as it’s strength. That enabled him to develop while he won and not dump all the pressure on him.
But I totally agree that we need to draft someone. I’m just realistic that getting a QB better than Garrard is a lot easier said then done. Even though this is a QB heavy draft, there’s no guarantee than any of them will ever be better in the NFL than David and I certainly doubt they’ll be better than him next season.
A lot
Depends on where they are drafted. I think Jamarcus Russel could be a nice quarterback if he wasn’t drafted into that hell hole Oakland.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
I agree
That’s why I said “slightly better than David”…. because realistically I think that’s about as good as we can hope for. It’s easy to say Garrard is not as good as Manning blah blah. It’s not so easy to find somone better than Garrard, because he is still pretty good, despite what all the haters say.
My personal opinion on Garrard: this team could certainly use an upgrade at QB … but that’s easier said than done.
well u never know with rookies.......look at reggie nelson lol
i was just asking…….i would only want a high calibur QB from FA……not a JP Losman…..
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
There are no high Calibur QB's in FA
Look at what happened in Chicago ?
You have to draft and develop and even then it’s a crap shoot. Hopefully Gene will be able to find someone in the draft that can be developed quickly, but to think we’re going to sign anyone who will be better than Garrard by the start of next season is just silly.
Thing Is
They don’t need to be developed quickly. Garrard sure as hell isn’t elite, I came to that realization last night, but he is better than your average Trent Edwards. David is a nice stopgap, who may even get us deep into the playoffs next year if our development as a team in general keeps at its current pace.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
If they're high caliber, they don't go to free agency
Their teams keep them. J.P. Losman might be the best it gets.
Didn't he sign with the Raiders?
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
Yes He Did
How awesome would it be to see him be the Next Kurt Warner (let’s be realistic, but good for him for making the jump to the big time!)
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He Couldn't Be Warner Because Losman Was a 1st Rounder
Buffalo traded Dallas their 2004 2nd Round, 5th Round, and 2005 1st Round Pick.
Those players turned into RB Julius Jones (now with Seattle), TE Sean Ryan (now with KC), and DE Marcus Spears.
By trading up Buffalo missed out on Aaron Rodgers, Roddy White, or Luis Castillo in 2005. In 2004 they missed out on Bob Sanders, G Justin Smiley, and RB/FB Greg Jones.
Sometimes patience is a good thing.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
lol that is why it was a question............
i was asking if there was anyone coming to free agency…….i never said " lets get somebody in FA"…………
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
i agree..........
i know Tim Tebow wouldnt be the best pick………..I would give him a shot though(dont shoot me). Who do you think is the best fit for us??
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
You actually think...
Tim Tebow would do a better job than Gerrard???
not right off the bat..........
but where are we going to get if he keeps choking like this??? i want somebody in there where i know what im getting every week. Tebow may be a huge bust…….the point is, we need someone else back there…………and was anybody at the game wondering what the hell happened to the screen pass????
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
There are a lot of prospects not named Tebow
Who look stronger, faster, smarter…. Well just plain better.
Nobody has any idea
what they’re going to get with ANY rookie QB next season.
That’s the crap-shoot that is the draft. But I’d be willing to bet there isn’t a single QB in the draft that will play better, under the same run-for-his-life circumstance, then Garrard is playing now.
I’m not saying he’s great. But he’s has his moments and he’s better than any rookie QB is going to be with the protection he’s being given.
I really like...
Houston’s Case Keenum. I saw him go through 4 progressions in the C-USA championship game with a couple minutes left and fire a beautiful ball between 3 players for a touchdown. If it weren’t for a ball going through a receivers hands on the next drive, I believe he’d be the talk of the town for putting the gae on his shoulders.
I am amazed at some of the stuff the kid does.
The guy's a gamer
He seems like a tough young leader. If he can be had in Round 3 I wouldn’t mind seeing him in teal.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Didn't Tebow choke....
in the SEC Championship game? It happens to the best of qb’s.
here's some QBs
Tony Pike
John Skelton
Bill Stull
Levi Brown
Dan Lefevour
Thad Lewis (Shout-out)
Tim Hiller
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My boy Thad Lewis on that list.
Haha
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
I think you made mistake on this one
“David got nailed on this play and no one blocked. Eugene thought it was Maurice that picks up a blitz but Maurice never moved”
-it wasn’t blitz, Foster was his guy, and he played Eugene like a drum, he gave him that fake step move, Eugene should have something to think about for next few days.
Mercedes played very good, I realy like his blocking.
I will show the complete series of pictures. Eugene never moved to block him and he looked at Maurice like it was his responsibility.
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It might have been a compete miss by Eugene. I can't be sure.
That’s why I said it was a possible rookie development.
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The guard didn't help Monroe out
I’m not sure if it was Uche or Vinny, but I think Monroe thought the Colts were going to shoot Foster inside and stunt a linebacker from the outside. The guard was pre-occupied with the backer at the line of scrimmage (who wasn’t blitzing, just faking a blitz). Monroe thought the guard was going to pick up Foster, and the guard thought he was going to pick up the blitzing linebacker.
It was a massive breakdown of concentration from Monroe, and the guard never looked left.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Yep - you got it.
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A couple of rookie mistakes, Reggie "Erased the Jaguars' Playoff Hopes" Nelson, and having a decent but not elite QB
Those are the only things that separated the Jaguars from the Colts this year. I’ll take that. If next offseason is anything like this past offseason, the future will just continue to look better and better.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 18, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions
You are a doofus
Hey man please stop going to the stadium to watch the game because you obviously have bad seats, try the television. A, Britton is by far our best lineman and B, Eugene gives up the sacks and C, MoJo has kind of disappeared since the Jets game, the lineman didn’t change did they?? You sound kind of bitter man tell us what’s really on your mind, don’t half-ass this shit dickhead. But, then again you are just another writer, err… blogger.
Haha.
Ciao
I guess it's a lot easier to troll than to have any idea what you're talking about.
Pictures are worth a thousand trolls.
I suggest you dig around the site and find the graphs charting our linemen’s success from week to week. Britton will improve, but he’s not blameless.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 18, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I am sure your mother is proud of you.
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Dude
Monroe made a mistake in passing game. But Monroe is the better Tackle right now, and he will soon be our best lineman, probably for years to come. Keep in in mind not giving up a sack doesn’t mean you don’t make mistakes. How many sacks has Meester given up all year? 1.5
I think can all agree he’s our best lineman right?
Britton is good and will probably be our second best lineman in the years to come.
Blameless??? Never said that :)
Yea i’ll dig around. Hey dude, did you watch the NFL Network last night, they were crazed about Britton. The Jags stole him from the draft, a STEAL. Lets all look at charts and graphs to decide whether we should go to the game or not and support the team. Fair weather fans. You people having a blog is like giving a loaded gun to a cracked out teenager.
Ok, I realize I'm giving you exactly what you want by not ignoring you
But….first you tell Terry, a great guy who’s done a fantastic job covering the Jaguars, to stop going to the games….and then you accuse us of not going to the games and being fair-weather fans? All while talking about the NFL network broadcast, which means you didn’t go the game either?
It’s clear you don’t want a deeper understand of the team we all love and support. This site is not for you.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 18, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
This site is not for him
It is for decent humans with brains.
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C'mon
Let the site be for him. It’s entertaining.
Perhaps the lesson we should learn from this is that none of us want to be criticized for what we do. We all make mistakes. Even when we are on top of our game, someone thinks they should see more productivity out of us. Better results, quicker.
We don’t all have someone standing by to call us an idiot when we “drop the ball”.
Unless you are the best there is at what you do, you should think about your words before you hurl them at someone. Imagine yourself in the same situation. How would you respond? Do you think it would spur you on, cause you to excel? Or would it weaken you, break you? I operated under similar conditions in my youth, and it pissed me off. I don’t know that it improved my work. The boss claimed it did. For me, it just made work less fun than it already is.
This is not directed at you, Terry. I’m just jumping off of you.
The soapbox is high.
Vae Victis!
Excellent deduction!
Haha. It’s funny how so many people point their fingers while engaging in the act themselves. You see it everywhere. We’ve all forgotten the face of our father.
Vae Victis!
You were saying
it’s hard to point fingers because then you become part of the act. A catch-22 is a book about 2 bad choices to choose from. You use the phrase a catch-22 for quandaries that have no right answer.
What does that mean?
Something, something blog and loaded teenager with a loaded gun…
What’s up with that? Break that down for me.
Vae Victis!
Garrard?
Umm did anyone watch this game? Garrard made a couple bad throws in the 4th quarter and all hell breaks lose about him not being the guy! Garrard played one of his best games this year, and went toe to toe with Peyton Manning. Did anyone not see the TD throw to Sims-walker? that was a heck of a throwHis TD throw to MJD was made because Garrard was able to see the fireld and make a play. Think Byron Leftwich would have done this well? Heck NO! Garrard is a good QB especially for our young WR’s. Not every team in the nfl is going to have an elite QB, like Manning, and Garrard has done fine this year minus a few moments. Cut the guy some slack
THANK YOUUUUUUUUU
Finally someone is not so blind to his excellent performance last night. anyone can say it was MJD, BUT it was really Garrard who put us on his shoulders last night. i get that hes not a Super Bowl QB, but he is a very good QB. I hate all the shit he gets when hes by far the MOST HIT QB in the league!. Hes going to get replaced in the upcoming years, but can we just enjoy him while he makes plays like the td pass to MJD? that was all him.
by harveyismyboy on Dec 18, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that's what we're all saying
At least, that’s what I’m saying. He’s not the best, but he’s better than a lot of others. Because he’s not elite, he will struggle with inconsistency, and factoring his age and frequency that he finds himself getting owned in the backfield, he only has a few more years left. It’s definitely time to find a young QB of the future….. but the meantime, Garrard is fine. Certainly would not have been nearly as close in the Colts game without him. And it’s definitely easier to say you need an elite QB than to actually find an elite QB.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 18, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
I can tell you all one thing
Garrard played better against the Colts than Brees is against the Cowboys.
Yeah...
I actually believe that he can get us to the Super Bowl. We are closer than a many people think. I don’t know if we will make the playoffs but I was saying after the pre-season that we would make the playoffs because after each game I saw improvement (add to that, our schedule wasn’t really that tough). If you think about it, we only have to tighten a few screws and we are there. Unfortunately consistency is one of those screws!
It's possible
I really believe it too. I think he’s really got talent and physical ability, if he can just go for the checkdown or run a half second quicker, he’s dynamite. He really can be that guy. I hope he gets the chance before it’s too late.
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David is not the problem.
He did a great job, except in the fourth quarter where it could have been a miracle ending.
David will be around long enough to bring a new guy along. We can go all the way with him as the QB.
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I have no problem with blogging about football teams and its players, aside from the fact that blogging is destroying america but don’t say its players let you down because they do their best. Your all hacks.
And you're a friggin' moron
First, you speak of blogging destroying America, yet your grammar and overall writing style is hackish at best.
Second, it’s “you’re” if you are implying “You’re all hacks.”
Third, it’s true most players do their best. However, their best isn’t always good enough. I’ll take Steve Hutchinson’s best over Uche’s best any day. The Jags didn’t let us down. A couple of players did (see Reggie Nelson and the interior o-linemen).
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
go away scatback
people that post on this site are both insightful and interesting…you on the other hand are just annoying
Merry Chirstmas
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which is Merry Christmas's evil twin
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
by TheTealDeal on Dec 18, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I said everything from Reggie
Eben was in my opinion not that bad (watched the full game 3 times today..) but maybe I was wrong. Was he just bad on this game Terry ; or he was bad on all 3 home games lately in your opinion?How you grade the rookies who are currently playing in this 3 weeks (Hou; Mia; Indy)?
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions
I went through all the pictures again looking at Britton
I found about 7 times in the Colts game where he was beaten and I will document that. I am also upset he missed the block to seal the Miami victory. He made mistakes in that game as well.
I am not saying he is a bad player, I am saying he needs to develop and learn more. Eugene Monroe has moved ahead of him in my opinion
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Thanks Terry
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Congrats
I go to the Jags-Colts game in Indy every year, and it is always a good game. I hope you guys don’t waste a pick on Tebow like people are saying.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
Be sure
Hei s not our guy. Gene Smith not like him so much and he and only he will be picking!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 18, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
English, English, English and why this blog will make me famous!
Wow this blog is good! It’s even equipped with the handy guy who gives out English lessons.
“Colts Homer” is the only guy with some sense around here. Do not waste a pick on Tebow. Good Christian and all but the savior of the Jags, no dude.
Not saying Britton is a bad player? I know your not, your not that stupid.
Look - Clean it up or go away.
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If you can only agree with a Colts fan with homer in his/her's username
maybe this site is not for you.
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Ha
I said the Jags should get a scatback type running back a few weeks ago. I guess this is what life does to you sometimes…
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
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