A look at the Jaguars rookie tackles from Pro Football Focus
H/T to ESPN's Paul Kuharsky for pointing this out, though I want to look at things a little deeper
The Jaguars two rookie tackles, Eugene Monroe and Eben Britton, have been the source of much discussion since they were drafted in April. Pro Football Focus has developed a way to normalize performances of offensive linemen, and when looking at Monroe and Britton, it provides some interesting data.
Amongst other things, Britton's performance against Buffalo was better than any single game by Joe Thomas. In addition, we all know Monroe was beaten badly by Dwight Freeney in Week 1, but I don't think we realized just how bad.
Quick caveats:
1.These guys aren't scouts, nor do they pretend to be. Grades are assigned based on production only, so a lucky break counts just as much as a perfect block.
2. These stats haven't been updated to include the San Francisco game, so who knows where the numbers will go when they are.
3. As far as the grading goes, any game where a player is graded 2.0 or higher would be a good game, 1.9 to -1.9 would be considered an average to mediocre game, and anything lower than -2.0 would be a bad game.
First, we will take a look at the Eugene Monroe. The eight overall pick in the draft came in with a lot of hype and was expected to be great from the get go. However, according to PFF Monroe is the 54th ranked tackle in the NFL. In comparision, Michael Oher ranks 14th and Jason Smith ranks 36th according to PFF.
However, we also have to remember that Eugene Monroe has started at LT every game, while Oher and Smith have predominantly seen their time as RTs. That means Monroe has had to see most team's best pass rush threat, and therefore a stiffer challenge. Well I'll just let PFF's chart tell it for me

That large red bar to start off the chart, that was Eugene Monroe against Dwight Freeney, and as far as I can tell, was perhaps the worst performance by any tackle in any game this season. For comparison, here are Michael Oher's and Jason Smith's charts.
While Eugene Monroe hasn't been setting the world on fire, the wood-shed beating that Freeney gave him skewed his results so far that it would be better if it was just dropped all together. Throwing out that game would bump Monroe all the way up to 27th in the offensive tackle rankings, a very respectable position for a rookie.
If there is anything else to take away from this chart, it is that Monroe is progressing well and is starting to become a legitimate player on the offensive line.
Perhaps the most striking thing with Monroe is that, while he was drafted for his pass blocking prowess, he has developed into a solid run blocker. He has yet to have a negatively graded run blocking performance, and has had several positive grades this season.
Also, another stat of note, after giving up 3 sacks and 12 QB pressures in his first two games, Monroe has given up one sack and two pressures the rest of the season.
The popular perception among Jaguars fans was that Eben Britton had been generally outplaying his first round counterpart. However, the folks at PFF would disagree with that. Britton is the 59th ranked tackle in the NFL according to PFF. Britton's chart is
Britton has not played very well overall at the right tackle spot, obviously. Britton has had two good games and the rest have been stinkers to varying degrees.
The primary reason for that is because of his pass blocking struggles. With the exception of the game against Buffalo, Britton has not had a single game where has been graded out as positive in pass protection.
In fact, the Buffalo game was the only game where he graded out positively run blocking as well.
That all being said, his game against Buffalo is a nice surprise and will hopefully serve as a turning point in his young career.
What can be taken away from all of this? We have two young lineman who are learning their craft on the job. They seem to be progressing well even if they aren't All Pros yet. Though I will be interested to see their grades for the San Francisco game.
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they are getting beat down.............
but they will get better……oh yes………they will
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by FRANKdubz on Dec 2, 2009 5:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
when they get a qb next year they will be
DAVID IS DONE……he couldnt even deliver on a 10 yard out he has been in the league 8 years its just time to move on ..hes not getting better even when are line gets solid noone in the NFL fears to play GARRARD hes a limited QB …………………………………Jags are getting Mccoy 21st pick this year…….then trading up in the 2nd rd to get Tim Tebow as a fb…… greg jones will be cut this year also toooooooo injury prone tebow will become the 1 yard machine to McCoys throwing legacy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO CATS
by DUVALCATS on Dec 22, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow that's definitely interesting
The one thing I wonder is if the results are skewed a bit for Eugene and Eben because the amount of time the QB holds the ball isn’t factored.
If David holds the ball just a half a second longer than every other quarterback, the amount of QB pressures, knock downs and sacks all increase. I’m not sure what the formula is, but when you look at the entire OT list it looks like those 3 stats are what directly affect the pass blocking rating.
by SoCalStites on Dec 2, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I've been doing a lot of timing
and this misconception that Garrard holds on to the ball too long all the time is bologna. Very few Qb’s hold on to the ball less than Garrard. And Tom Brady isn’t one of them. Peyton is, but very few others are quicker. VY holds on to the ball. Brady Quinn holds on to the ball too long.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 3, 2009 4:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
inconsistent David has his moments - I must respectfully disagree
he seems really lost if his primary guy is covered. Again – when David is on his game, he is good and then your statement is accurate – but when he’s not – he’s bad and he does hold onto the ball to long in those instances.
by OGN on Dec 3, 2009 6:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hm
I would have to agree with Ewdtrey on this one. From what I have seen, Garrard holds onto the ball less than most other QBs I watch.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Dec 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't exactly an opinion
to argue really. haha
I was actually watching games with a stopwatch in my hands. Not much to debate there. Yes I’ve seen Garrard hold on to the ball a little longer when his first receiver is covered, not more than normal though. Most of the time, when he’s holding on to the ball, it’s when we are in 3rd and long situation. A situation the teams was in a lot against the 9ers because of penalties or mistakes made by the whole team, not just Garrard.(Holding by Meester, PI from MSW etc)
I think the trick is not to get into obvious passing situations so often.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 3, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Bestjagfan on Dec 4, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh!!!!!!!
he isnt fsblue anymore……..hes jonathan loesche……….
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by FRANKdubz on Dec 2, 2009 6:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I've always been that ;)
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 2, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also I was looking more at the site
And I noticed that Brad Meester has a lower rating than both Monroe and Britton. In fact, he has the lowest rating of any offensive Jaguar. Make what you will out of that.
by SoCalStites on Dec 2, 2009 6:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like Brad
But we need to adress the centre position.
Veeeery interesting article about the tackles!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 2, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he was goos when he was young
Now he is old.
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by TheTealDeal on Dec 2, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lageman just said
Monroe and Britton are both improving:
Monroe is slightly getting better and better in finishing; and Britton is starting to looking better and better.
And he siad (and Vic agreed) the resl issue in the O-line is at them iddle…. I agree; the line rebuilding just started in 2009; I think we face another turn in 2010…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 2, 2009 6:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The tackles are improving
but the guards are not.
Jonathan is improving. Nice article!
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by Tkopa on Dec 2, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The arrow is clearly pointing up for John
by SoCalStites on Dec 2, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice... lol
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by silencecs on Dec 3, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1000
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 3, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very true
Sadly, unless Mo Pauncey declares, there aren’t any immediate starting guards in the draft.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 2, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Even
Sadder, we won’t be in position to draft him should he declare. Unless we are picking 32nd we aren’t taking a guard in the first, and we don’t have a second rounder, where he is guaranteed to go.
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by Bestjagfan on Dec 2, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We should look around in FAs
BY the way AM I the only one who think Gene must sign a solid; proved veteran passrusher FA next offseason? Not a name; but someone who is proved can hit and sack the QB?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 3, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vinny
is improving. Uche improves improves and then has setbacks. But luckily, it’s mostly mental for him. Meester is not flashy, but he’s getting the job done on a more regular basis than the rest of the line.
by Ewdtrey on Dec 3, 2009 4:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Uche a Lot........
He was forced into the rotation last season and so far has made immense improvements in his game………… I think that having Britton next to him has caused some setbacks in his results, but not in his game…….
by jaxjags.. on Dec 3, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vinny was a FORCE in the running game prior to his season ending injury......
He even started this season not at 100% in regard to his recovery……
I can´t wait for next season, I think that with tackle improvements we should have a great LG and a very decent RG…………
The one i´m not sure about is Meester……….
by jaxjags.. on Dec 3, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
San Frasisco's numbers are out
Monroe has the second worst game after Indy on week 1.
BUT Britton have another huge game in the Green!!!!!!!!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 6, 2009 2:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nwaneri has a good game too
Meester and Manuwai has ok game. So it was all Eugene last week???
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting, good for Britton, seems he is turning the corner
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