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After the Patriots Game, some thoughts

First of all, I can't imagine being a Jaguar fan and not coming to Big Cat Country. I have been so pleased with the site and all of you. We keep each other informed in a very intelligent fashion and never let this site degrade into the cesspool most other web-based blogs become. Thank you to you all.

I don't want to post a negative article about the Jaguars; they worked very hard this year and don't deserve that. I will have more to say about that in a moment. There are, however, some things I don't understand.

The first thing I don't understand is the offensive line. As recent as two years ago this was a good offensive line. Three years ago it was a tremendous line. In 2005 the team had 1,959 yards rushing and allowed 32 sacks. In 2006 they had 2,541 yards rushing and allowed 30 sacks. In 2007; 2,391 yards rushing and 31 sacks. In 2008; 1774 yards rushing and 42 sacks. In 2009 we have 1,900 yards rushing and 41 sacks. Andy Heck, line coach, has been here the entire time. Dirk Koetter took over for Carl Smith in 2007. 

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So what is causing the decline in the offensive line? Did Vince Manuwai and Brad Meester get that old that fast? Is the Dirk Koetter offensive hard to block for? From what I see in the pictures, our line looks more confused in assignments than just getting beat. I don't think they are as bad individually as they are as a group. The running is not dependable and the third and fourth downs with two yards to go are not a given. I don't know if that is a symptom of past injuries or missed blocks. I see both, but somehow, that unit looks in more disarray than I ever would have imagined. It is not terrible, but it is not playoff caliber either. I rarely see a holding penalty but I see David get hit. I don't want the penalty, but I'd like to see a bit more desire to protect David. Our injury riddled line of last year will allow less sacks than this year. Why? This is not a typical Andy Heck coached unit, and not one I expected.

 

The next thing I don't understand is the defensive secondary. Mel Tucker has been a good coach for pass defense and especially the defensive secondary. I don't know how Reggie Nelson can be singled out in game 15 as a problem when they have watched him all through training camp, preseason and 14 regular season games. Has Mel Tucker been hoping he would get better and coaching him to get better or did this just happen? Why is Reggie Nelson suddenly being discovered as a weakness if he wasn't all year long? If he has been a weakness, why was he on the field starting? I have trouble believing he can't play this game, but I might be wrong. 

Why does a team pass defense allow quarterbacks to set records for completions and yet never take a pass interference penalty? That has to be a defined policy of the coaching staff and what they preach; allow the completion before drawing a penalty. Again, this is not the Mel Tucker unit I expected. Once again, I see more missed assignments than lack of athletic ability. Confusion and caution is what I see most in the secondary, more than lack of ability.

I think what I am seeing is a team not as prepared mentally to play week in and week out as I hoped. There is something wrong in the Jaguar preparation for the season and individual games that seems to lead to erratic play. Sometimes they get it, other times they are completely out of sync. The same goes with the play calling, sometimes it is brilliant, sometimes it is questionable. I wonder if the different "experiments" and coaching changes stymie players ability to come in and easily learn the system. I am not sure there is a system sometimes. That was harsh, but with the 3-4 experiment and Maurice saying we don't run enough, we saw enough player discontent with the "system" to believe something is bothering the team. Something makes the Jaguars unstable.

Now I promised this would not be a totally negative post, so back to the Jaguars as a team. Tony Dungy and Bill Belichick both taught their teams how to fight to the end before they learned to win. Neither coach stepped in and won a Super Bowl year one or even made the playoffs, but they both had teams that fought hard. In 2009, I appreciated the Jaguar effort most of all. If there was quit in this team, they would have lost to St. Louis, Kansas City, Houston and Buffalo. They would have repeated 2008 and maybe worse. The fight to the end was the real strength of the team this year. I am hopeful that the spirit of fight, along with constant player upgrades leads to a winning culture. This spirit of fighting is what Jack Del Rio brings to the team. Keep chopping wood. I enjoyed that aspect of this team the most.

I do have to ask the coaching staff to look at themselves, however, to ensure they are doing everything they can to help these guys develop and win. I just don't believe these collapses are all player problems. Something is still not right in preparation and readiness. Fighting hard is not enough, winning takes effort and brains.  I believe Jack knows how to win. I think we need him and his coaches to firm up and develop the system and then translate how to play for success to the players better. We are not a stable team, but then again neither is Houston or Tennessee.  The top teams are stable. I want us to get there.

- Terry O'Brien

 

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" Why does a team pass defense allow quarterbacks to set records for completions and yet never take a pass interference penalty? That has to be a defined policy of the coaching staff and what they preach; allow the completion before drawing a penalty. Again, this is not the Mel Tucker unit I expected. Once again, I see more missed assignments than lack of athletic ability. Confusion and caution is what I see most in the secondary, more than lack of ability."

My sentiments exactly, Terry. I go nuts watching the secondary look around after a big play, as if “Duh, which way did he go? Which way did he go?”

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by cuffs007 on Dec 27, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

I think we need another Question to raise too Terry

What is happening when the team left Jacksonville. We see 1 greta away game (Ny Jets) 1 good (Texans) 1 okay (colts) and 4 terrible…
I don’T get this,.

I think we would lost even with last week’s offense; but within a margin of a TD. Now we scored afer it was over (with an almost all rookie blitz drive!!!)

Someone answer me that question too.

By the way another classy; very well written debate starter article Terry. Rec’s and Well done.

And I have a feel good story too:
http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2009-12-27/story/fred_taylor_makes_some_memories_at_reunion

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 27, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

Nelson

Has always been a liability in my opinion. This is not new.

by Slvrgun on Dec 27, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

Then why was he a starter for 14 games?

That is what has me baffled. You start your best players. If he wasn’t the best, why was he out there?

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by Tkopa on Dec 28, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

1st round pick. Sad as it is, that does provide some level of assurance

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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 28, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

A first round pick is going to have an advantage over a street free agent. Not right, but its just the way it is.

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by Bestjagfan on Dec 28, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Also I don't think the Jaguars are not mentally prepared.

They are just getting physically whooped. O Line is old. D Line is young, and inexperienced. LBers are overrated. And the Secondary is basically a patch work of rookies, guys nobody wanted, and Mathis who some believe is in decline.

by Slvrgun on Dec 27, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

I though we are a "tough physical" team

every HC coach; saying that. Is that not true anymore?

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 27, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not true anymore

the offensive line got soft, the secondary whiffs on assignments and tackles, there isn’t as much intensity as there used to be. They may be tough, but they sure aren’t physical.

by Lancers46 on Dec 27, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Mathis has been hurt

so I’ll wait to pass judgment until 2010. To me, though, it doesn’t look like an intense group. The defense isn’t a group of ballhawks and Lord knows they don’t want to hit anybody. Tackling form across the secondary is poor, and that can be attributed straight to the coaching staff. Teach the man how to tackle … what if he doesn’t respond or refuses to use said technique? Bench his ass. Release his ass. No gray areas. Discipline also needs to be stiffened. This is a very undisciplined team. Being caught out of position is a sign of not being disciplined. All this said, these are all really one-year fixes. One offseason set of TCs and OTAs and so forth. 2010 should be a playoff year.

by Lancers46 on Dec 27, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

The least penalized team in the league tells me we are discplined.

What we lack is speed. Our Defense looks like a slug covered in salt on the field. It is too slow. I want an attack and swarm Defense.

by Slvrgun on Dec 27, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Well just like above

you’re going to be last in penalties if you aren’t aggressive.

by Lancers46 on Dec 27, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

What is "old" about the O-Line?

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by Tkopa on Dec 28, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Britton and Monroe - Rookies

Manuwai – 7th season.
Uche – 3rd season
Meester – 10th season.

These guys play for 15 years on the line. There is nothing “old” about this group. Hurt maybe. Confused maybe. Old? nope.

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by Tkopa on Dec 28, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Well being hurt is sometimes worst than old

Manuwai might need more time to get his game, or maybe he will never be the same.
Meester is on slide down.
I like what I see from Uche, just he needs to give his best on every play he is not doing it right now.
We need to think about OG and C on this years draft.

Don’t get me wrong I realy like Manuwai, and Meester… but same thing for them as for others, need to show on the field.

by Nikola R on Dec 28, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

agree 100%

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by Tkopa on Dec 28, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

So you think Center and Left Guard are young?

These are some of the most important positions on the team. The O Line is as old as its oldest player. It is Old.

by Slvrgun on Dec 28, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, by any standard this is a young line

are you just being a troll?

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by Tkopa on Dec 28, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

No but I think you don't know what you are talking about.

You are the same one who wrote an entire front page article on why Tebow should be a Jaguar. Give me a break.

by Slvrgun on Dec 29, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't believe that was me buddy

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by Tkopa on Dec 29, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

This article is dead on

I’ve seen some really bad coaching this year. The technique in the defensive secondary is horrible. They safeties are like that head dude from the Immortals on the 300; easily tricked. Every Sunday we here analysts say the safeties are supposed to be as deep as the deepest, but then we see the Jaguars safeties biting on underneath routes and letting receivers run wild deep down the field. The tackling is horrible. For a bunch of grown up football players you would think they knew how to tackle.

But I also agree about the defensive speed. It’s severely lacking. How many times have we seen a blitz and the defender just couldn’t get to the QB? How many times have we seen receivers catch the ball with nary a jaguars defender even close. This defense is missing closing speed. We can’t play man defense because of it. We can’t get pressure because of it. We’re forced to play cover 2 zone and against our defense, which refuses to get pressure, that’s every QB’s dream. Teams are using our defense as the “get over the hump” game. And that’s just not gonna do for the Jacksonville Jaguars defense. Maybe Jack should hand it over or at least put in some travel time to learn how to really play defense. That’s what I would do. I would send my staff to see different coordinators so they could learn how to really coach a defense. When the clock hits all zeros next week, the entire defensive staff and players should be rolling tape of the Jets, Steelers, Packers, and Ravens defenses learning how to play.

by moufpuncha on Dec 28, 2009 2:17 AM EST reply actions  

Next week...

…we’ll have to hear about the resurgence of Derek Anderson and how he’s back on the rise because he went 29 of 30 on the Jaguars secondary with 4 touchdowns. We’ll have to hear about how he’s gonna carry the Browns until week 1 of next season when they get blown out.

by moufpuncha on Dec 28, 2009 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess what bothers me is...

… the teams you mentioned that know how to play defense, they used to reference Jacksonville as a team that knew how to play defense. We were in the gold standard at one time.

Is it players or preparation that caused the year-end slide?

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by Tkopa on Dec 28, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what's hilarious?

With all the teams that lost, including both 8-6 teams, WE CAN STILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

Let me repeat that: WE CAN STILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!

Since we control the conference record tiebreaker among the 7-8 teams, we can make the playoffs if we beat the Browns in Week 17, and any four of the five 8-7 teams lose. And if both 8-7 teams lose and we win, we’ll get the fifth seed on the conference record tiebreaker!

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by Orlando Rays on Dec 28, 2009 7:53 AM EST reply actions  

Correction

If ALL FIVE 8-7 teams lose and we win, we’ll get the fifth seed on the conference record tiebreaker. Then the Jets, Dolphins, Ravens and Broncos would have to vie for a deeper tiebreaker.

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by Orlando Rays on Dec 28, 2009 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Great Article

I sure hope someone solves this problem. If not, we’re in for years of the same type of season. The bottom line is we have a so-so offense, a mediocre quarter back and a terrible defense. Reggie Nelson has been bad from day one, if it takes our coaches this long to realize it, we need new coaches. The reason our secondary doesn’t get any interference calls is they are always 5 yards away from the receiver when the ball is caught. When’s the last time you saw someone in the secondary knock down an accurately thrown pass? In my opinion, trading and cutting players like Mike Peterson, Gerald Sensabaugh, Paul Spicer, kahlif Barnes, Drayton Florence, Brian Williams was a mistake. We tried to do too much too fast.

by Swizznuts on Dec 28, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

I guess I wasn't throwing the coaches under the bus

I am just wondering why a very good line coach is having trouble getting good line performance and why a very good defensive coach is having trouble getting good defensive performance on a consistent basis. The close games don’t bother me, the blowouts do. They are so far off the norm there must be a special cause.

Perhaps the combination of new people, new coaches and new experiments was too much. You might be right.

A lot of the players you mentioned that were let go were very highly paid. The team had a number 8 draft pick and a new Maurice Jones Drew contract to pay for. I don’t fault Gene for trimming cost. With the exception of Paul Spicer and Kahlif Barnes, I agree the others would have helped the team this year. Maybe we couldn’t have afforded them?

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by Tkopa on Dec 28, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

After further consideration

I can’t see where any of the let go guys would have made a big punch this season. None of them have played exceedingly well in other places.

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by Tkopa on Dec 28, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Some of those listed guys

Needed to be let go, like Spicer. Sure his “Duvaaallll” thing at the beginning of games was cool, but he just got old in between 07 and 08. I do agree that Gene got a little cut happy. Drayton Florence was a guy who could have been kept. His salary was a little high, but it wasn’t outrageous. They could have even restructured his contract. He was a pretty good nickle back once he was moved there, and offered nice depth. Better to have him in for an injured Rashean than Tyron Brackenridge.

The whole Gerald Sensabaugh incident was way overblown, I agree with you. A person has every right to have guns in their car. He was in his small hometown anyway. He was more than likely going to shoot around with them in the woods or something. He was a nice safety. I’m sure the coaching staff wishes they had him now. He’s having a nice season in Dallas.

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by Bestjagfan on Dec 28, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Gerald

Needed to be resigned though, but I think he would have been worth the money.

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by Bestjagfan on Dec 28, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

But tell me who has excelled with their new team?

Drayton hasn’t been good in Buffalo. Sensabaugh in Dallas was nothing special and Mike Peterson has “petered” out in Atlanta. Honestly, I think we are doing about as well with them or without them.

Just my thoughts.

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by Tkopa on Dec 28, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I Agree

That none of them moved on to become superstars with their new teams. Mike Peterson needed to be let go, he was old and getting on the coaching staffs nerves. Drayton has been alright in Buffalo playing nickle. Tyron Brackenridge has played well at times, but I think Drayton would have been an upgrade during the time Rashean was out. We all know Rashean is injury prone. Sensabaugh is doing alright in Dallas. I haven’t seen him play too much, but from what I’ve seen he’s playing well. With our current struggles at safety, I think bringing Donavan out of retirement would have been an upgrade.

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by Bestjagfan on Dec 29, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Sensy

has played well at times, but he’s pulled a few Reggie Nelsons. BTW, is it me or did we seem to have some confusion with Nelson not in the starting lineup? Granted Nelson is confusing in his own right, but there definitely seemed to be some confusion amongst the DB’s that isn’t normally there. Usually they just get beat, whereas this time people were running wide open in the back of the endzone.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 29, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

There were a lot of miscommunications.

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by Bestjagfan on Dec 29, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You have a right to have a gun, sure

But riding around with an AK?

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by Jonathan Loesche on Dec 28, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

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by Tkopa on Dec 28, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yezzir

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