RUMOR: Sports talk radio says something untrue.
by River City Rage on Feb 10, 2009 11:09 AM EST
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Print[Note by River City Rage, 02/10/09 7:33 PM EST ]: Ok, let's clear things up. I was told by someone I respect in the field of sports that a Jacksonville Sports Talk Radio show spoke about trade details between the Cardinals and the Jaguars. I posted here to see if anyone who might be in the area might have heard that. I did not, as implied on the Jaguars.com message boards, say that I heard that the Jaguars were going after Anquan. If I was unclear, I apologize. [/ rant]
[Note by River City Rage, 02/10/09 1:41 PM EST ]: Nothing Substantiated. Just Talk Radio Nonsense.
Question: Did anyone hear anything on Jacksonville Sports Radio yesterday or today about anything regarding the Jagaurs and Anquan Boldin? I heard about something from a very indirect source and I'd like to track down what station and which show said it.
Thanks!
-Chris
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Boldin, Porter, Jones...
Sounds like a decent WR corp to me…
Although if we sign Boldin, Gene will almost certainly let every other FA walk to get some compensatory picks…
Never mind... he's still under contract...
I can’t see a scenario where we trade picks… Maybe Fred Taylor straight up… I wouldn’t pull that trigger no matter what though…
Hmmm…. I don’t like this… it sounds like it goes against everything Gene has said he stands for so far.
It's nothing real. I just want to know who in Sports Radio to mock tomorrow.
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by River City Rage on Feb 10, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
taylor?
There is no chance of the Cardinals trading straight up for Fred Taylor… That would be really nice but I don’t see that happening. For the right draft pick I wouldn’t argue with it. If this actually happens I hope he brings his A game.
You're joking right?!
Come one guys… there’s no way that they pull the trigger on another disgruntled, prima-donna wide receiver that’s looking to cash-in and then cash-out.
Have you forgotten about Porter?… huh… come on!
File this one in the same folder as ’ the Jags are moving to LA’. It’s talk show fodder, plain and simple.
If Gene Smith even hinted about this deal, he wouldn’t last long.
I think that is what Chris was trying to say... there is nothing substantiated here.
it goes against everything we’ve heard about GENE so far… I can’t see this happening.
He can play
I would think that Boldin is far more proven than Porter ever was. He has a lot of talent and is a playmaker. I wonder how exactly we’re going to step up our receiving corps.
I found this... don't know how accurate it is though...
Report this morning on Jacksonville radio that the Cardinals and Jaguars had talks last summer before training camp. Anyone heard this before?
Today with link audio from the website they suggest the Jaguars are ready to take the Cardinals offer. No mention on the complete package, but it’s a combination of picks and players.
They believe the following is the fixture in the deal.
CARDINALS trade – BOLDIN and draft picks
JAGUARS trade – JOHN HENDERSON and higher draft pick.
They discussed most likely the Jaguars would send a 2nd rounder, and the cards a multiple draft choices later on in the draft.
I Kind of Like It
John Henderson has really underperformed the past few years. Although it would weaken our defensive line even more, we could get a pro bowl receiver, and check that need off of our list. We could then trade back come draft day, and grab a defensive lineman with upside. Although we lose a second round pick if this deal is for real, we probably would have used our second round pick on a wide out anyway.
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ya i saw that too
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I think that this is a possibility...
We’d get additional picks, dump an overpaid and underperforming player, and get a proven commodity at WR, plus additional later round picks… What’s not to like about this deal?
I love John Henderson as much as the next guy, but it seems to me that we have to drastically overhaul our roster and remove players who aren’t performing at the high standard we’re accustomed to. Like it or not, Big John’s numbers have been down the last two years, and he’s got a cap hit of over 5 million i think, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see this go down. I wouldn’t be overly disappointed either, except that we have such a good track record for our second rounders.
We won’t be able to solve our entire O-line issues without a second rounder though. I was hoping we could snag an OT in rd 1 and a C in round 2, but that is need’s based talk, and we are doing none of that here at BCC… I say pull the trigger, although I wish we could find a way to keep our 2nd rounder.
Ok but then we need to get Meier out first!!
Meier’s cap hit is even bigger than Big John’s……..
funny you mention that...
Chris was just asking which player should be cut for a weekly roundtable discussion… Rob (don’t call me Seth) meier was my choice for player to be released. He way underperformed after signing his contract extension.
I like this deal too
I say resign Meester or a serviceable guy in FA and worry about drafting his replacement next year. Losing a second rounder would hurt some but in return we get a Pro Bowl WR and more late round picks. Maybe we can find a hidden gem or two in those late rounds, not to mention all the unrestricted FA’s that will be available. We know that next year is going to be a little rough but if we do good this Draft and next years we can hopefully be looking forward to a great 2010 season..
hold up
So, if we get rid of Big John and/or Meier, who are we going to get to replace them? I like the idea of getting a Pro Bowl WR like Boldin, but if we get rid of John and or Meier, who can we get to replace them?
I'm guess a rookie
Which is dangerously close to need-based drafting, but as long as the player is targeted and taken at a slot that makes sense, I suppose it’s ok.
by MoveThoseChains on Feb 10, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
This is...
Ludicrous… We’ve got to stop this type of thinking guys. A) The Eagles have two 1st round picks and my guess is that they are willing to shed one for a primary receiver like Boldin (This would make the deal much more desirable to the Cards). B) Regardless of Boldin’s skill, can we afford to decommit so hastily from the “build from the bottom up” ideas that our supposed “new era” of team management has promoted? Guys let’s take a breather and think about what you are saying. I’m crossing my fingers that we don’t dip our fingers into the bear trap infested cookie jar. It looks glamourous, but the downside is far too risky. Screw risk… Let’s build this team in a responsible manor.
I guess
the only 2 way this team would trade in the offseason is:A; players for more draft picks or B; if they didn’t found a guy to a key position neither in the Draft and free agency, but I guess in that time there will be no big names or just on a horrible price. So I guess, we don’t see any trade now, specially under this new era of Gene Smith. But it is just my opinion.
by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 10, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions
What's not to like about this deal???
What’s not to like is the fact that our D-line will be all funked up. lol If the talk is about underperforming look at Meir. Instead of Boldin why don’t we look at FA wideouts that won’t cost us any of our much needed picks?!?!?! Henderson has underperformed but w/o him what do we have? Harvey, Groves, whoever we keep at DT, Hayward and some rookies? God I hope not.
I said earlier
that I wouldnt be too against the trade but Kick is right and I definetly like the idea of signing a cheaper free agent WR. I was on NFL.com the other day and they have a list of all the FA’s out there and there are a few WR that we could probably get for cheap. Maybe they should trade Big John for as many draft picks they can get. They got a 2nd and a 5th for Stroud I think. Im sure John would get better picks. I would hate to see him leave but we could definelty target a DT in the draft if we had two 2nd rnd picks. I know thats draft for need talk but this is a rebuilding year like it or not.
I'm sorry
I’ve been misunderstood. I was told by a friend of mine who covers the NFL that he heard that Jacksonville Sports Radio said that there were trade talks and had details. I wanted to know if any Jacksonville area folks had heard that. I’m sorry for any confusion.
-Chris
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by River City Rage on Feb 10, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions
Tisk Tisk Tisk Oh Chris what are we going to do with you
How could you assume that if you wanted to know if anyone heard anything you could just ask? And then to phrase it like this:
Question: Did anyone hear anything on Jacksonville Sports Radio yesterday or today about anything regarding the Jagaurs and Anquan Boldin? I heard about something from a very indirect source and I’d like to track down what station and which show said it.
Certainly there must be a hidden message in there somewhere. It is certainly not possible to assume you just wanted to know if someone heard anyting.
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PLEASE...
Don’t look into this.. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN! Fred Taylor for Boldin, are you kidding me?? We don’t need boldin, we have to many over paid receivers now, just use them until there contracts are done, or to where we can release them and not take a big cap hit… Boldin for Henderson is unrealistic as it gets… (However, Dockett and Henderson on the Cards D-line is NASTY!) But, I don’t see it happening at all… Let me see what kind of inside scoop I can get from my jags insider, and I will keep you gys posted! The Cards are asking a first and third rounder.. we definitely DON’T HAVE THAT!
by floridafalcons#63 on Feb 11, 2009 10:18 AM EST reply actions
And the Jags probably regretted that trade every time Rob dontcallmeseth Meier did...nothing
Which was all the time. I’m all for getting younger and stockpiling picks and pushing out the old and not being sentimental and all of that Vic Ketchman stuff, but I can’t think of a worse way to address the defensive line than by trading away its best player. Do you want to see what a line that gets even less pressure than last year’s looks like? Because I sure don’t.
by MoveThoseChains on Feb 11, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
And Stroud did nothing for Buffalo
That being said, I do think it’s stupid to trade away Henderson at the moment. However, Stroud really showed signs of the injury again in the back half of the season and I was glad he was traded
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by Jonathan Loesche on Feb 11, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
The problem
I have with trading him is that would be o much rebuilding. We need some old guys to allow the young guys to grow. Another thing is that this is a game of replacement, but there is no one out there DT to replace him. Whats the most we could concievably get for Henderson; a low second rounder if that? Do you think any of the second round DT’s this year are as good as him? I sure don’t.
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