The straw that breaks the camels back?
Teams acquire players that become inseparable from their identity. The 49ers have Joe Montana, the Dolphins have Dan Marino, and the Colts have Peyton Manning. For the Jaguars it is Fred Taylor and for the modern era Browns, it was Bernie Kosar.
During Week 8 of the 1993 season, then Browns coach Bill "The Asterisk" Belichick cut Kosar because of "Diminishing skills." Browns fans reacted in anger, some refusing to attend games, and simply made a bad situation worse. Already mired in rumors of leaving, within two seasons, the Browns would leave Cleveland to become the Baltimore Ravens. Many see the release of Kosar as the final blow to public support for a new Stadium for the Browns and the trigger to bring the Browns to Baltimore.
Today, the Jaguars sit on another such moment. The release of franchise legend Fred Taylor has visibly angered a fanbase already grumbling from a catastrophic season. Say what you want about salary cap hits and getting old, Fred Taylor but people's butts in the stadium. I have bought two Jaguars jerseys in my life, a #8 Mark Brunell in 1996, and in 2003 a Black Fred Taylor.
This is a team already struggling to get people into the stadium, and I believe this move was done for the wrong reasons. If Taylor was willing to take a paycut, the Jaguars should have allowed him to remain with the team and retire on his own terms. He was a piece of the franchise that had people coming back, and would have helped smooth over the transition to the 2009 season.
Now, the team has alienated many in its fanbase, including yours truly. I hope the team rebounds in 2009, as I could see this moment being pointed at by many when the Jacksonville Jaguars started becoming the Los Angeles Jaguars.
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Having lived the Kosar situation
I can’t really get across how intense the backlash was. Skybox seats waiting list disappeared and 25% were left unsold. Corporate support dried up. No matter how much winning the Browns did, as long as Belichick was the coach, they didn’t care. Art Modell kept saying he believed in the coach and the team would go to the Super Bowl and the fans would return. i don’t beleive he read the situation right. That city loved the Browns but hated the management. They could not longer tolerate Modell or Belichick. Cutting Bernie was unforgivable.
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I did renew my season tickets
I am not advocating an abandonment of the team, just relaying what I saw in Cleveland.
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Overreact Much?
Look, this is not the end of the world. I love Fred Taylor just as much as the next guy, but he isn’t getting any younger. $6M is a lot to pay a backup running back. I’m glad they didn’t pull a Packers-Favre fiasco.
I just renewed my season tickets...
Do not use this as an excuse to not buy tickets. If someone only truly cares about the Jaguars if they have Fred Taylor than you most likely are not a dedicated fan. If you give up on the team because of this than go buy tickets for the next team Fred goes to. I love Freddy “Shake and Bake” Taylor just as much as the next guy, and praise him for how he has helped the Jaguars in the past but the last thing I will do is give up on the Jaguars and not buy tickets. If somebody doesn’t like the Jaguars now that Fred is gone, than you were never a true Jaguars fan and we don’t need you.
Ridiculous
Grow up man. This is excessive and stupid. This should be a place to help fans be mature, and a good one for them to vent on things. As one of the posters on this site you have a responsibility to be able to handle this decision and write a little more positively about it.
Everyone is bummed we won’t see 28 in teal next year, but it is what it is. We’ll move on, and someday soon we’ll see Fred’s name plastered on the Pride of the Jaguars. We’ll sit in the stands and cheer our asses off for him and he’ll love every minute.
No matter where Fred plays football the next year or two, he will always be a Jaguar.
Help us cope with this, not kick us when we’re down. Thanks.
The sky is not falling, John
The 49ers are still in San Francisco, despite the owners being universally loathed by the fans. The Dolphins survived 7-62, Jimmy Johnson, not going to the playoffs for years and years, and nearly going defeated. If the Colts had an MJD waiting behind their Fred of a Peyton Manning, they would be fine too.
The old Browns wanted a new stadium, but there are no stadium issues here. Maybe a couple cosmetic things mostly for the benefit of the Florida-Georgia game, but no big problems. The Jaguars are not going anywhere. It’s simply not happening. Sorry, Pete Prisco, Mike Silver, Roger Goodell, and all of the rest of you.
by MoveThoseChains on Feb 17, 2009 10:31 AM EST reply actions
I agree MTC... This team is not going to move anytime soon. Maybe in 3-5 years if we're struggling to sell tickets still, then we can talk.
No City in America has enough excess cash flow to finance a new stadium right now. Talk to me when Minnesota fixes the Vikings stadium (which they can’t afford to do), until then they are my top team to move in the next 3 years.
Plus, an NFL franchise is a great hedge against inflation in the future. If our currency starts to be highly devalued then an Owner would still have a viable product which is going to be worth more based on the inflation.
Ex. If a team is worth 1 billion, and the dollar drops in value 20%, then it now costs someone 1.2 billion to purchase the team. The franchise’s value doesn’t decrease concurrently with the dollar… (Confused yet?)
When your talking about Billionaires, you always have to look at in from an Economics perspective. Losing Fred Taylor is NOT going to prompt a move.
-Collin
The End Is Nigh...
I agree about the Vikings
And thanks for the lesson in economics…I learned something today!
by MoveThoseChains on Feb 17, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not trying to kick you down Jim...
I just can’t stand talk of not buying tickets because of Fred leaving. I am upset as well, and not trying to argue, but when people start hinting towards ideas of not buying tickets, and giving up on the Jaguars I cannot sit here and let them turn their back without a word. We each have ways of handling the situation. It will be fine, the Jaguars will withstand, and all I am saying is if we lose a couple fans because of this… that is their decision and I do not support it.
I don't understand the sentiment of wanting to abandon a team based on the release or trade of a player either bro.
It just doesn’t compute. The Jags were around before Fred Taylor was in the NFL, and they’ll be around when he’s retired… Why quit on the team, especially if you love the sport and the team as much as some of them profess to.
Gene Smith sure has made a splash… that Cat’s got ice water in his veins, and it makes me excited for the future of our franchise.
-Collin
The End Is Nigh...
I agree
Hopefully the Jags are around for another 100 years and hopefully we will be able to draft/sign and see many many more guys like Fred Taylor on the team in the future. You have to look at the big picture no matter how much his leaving hurts. Im a Jag fan forever.
Who was a fan of the Jaguars in 1995, 1996?
And how many current players were on the team in 1995? None of them. When Brunell was released, I was sad because I was a BIG Brunell fan, but I am and will always be an even BIGGER Jaguars fan! Vic K has stated that a team has a true fan base when the fans root more for the helmets than the players. This is very true. Look at how long the Steelers and their fans have been around. How many player changes have they seen? I bet quite a few. When Franco Harris was released did the Steeler nation colaps? I don’t think so.
by jagsfanbrunell on Feb 17, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions
I agree...
I just passed a buddy of mine going to my next class. He is a die hard Ravens fan and the only thing he said to me was “Hey brotha, it’s an end to an era. You know what that means, right? The beginning of a new one”. That brightened my day a little. I’m going to miss Fred. Period. But I am excited by what I see from Gene Smith as well. I look forward to the new era.
I liked that story too...
however, I had the opposite experience. My uncle just called me and said “you root for a classless organization!” I tried my best to defend the Jaguars decision, but he insited that “you don’t just cut”a Fred Taylor." He made some valid points about team and player loyalty. It made me really think about that side, but in the end I realized that the Jaguars are an NFL organization, where the business is winning football games, period. Will giving more opportunity to MJD help the Jaguars win? Absolutely! I am sad to see Fred leave, but I am equally excited to see Drew in his new role.
by jagsfanbrunell on Feb 17, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I don't understand
“you don’t just cut a Fred Taylor.” If an aging player’s skills are declining and an organization has come to the conclusion that they will be better off without that player what other option do they have? Hang on to them until they decide to retire?
If
that type of thinking produces a playoff birth, then count me in!
by jagsfanbrunell on Feb 17, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Kosar? This is ridiculous.
Think about a great vacation. On day one, it seems like the world is perfect. No work, all play. But soon enough, that last day rolls around and it’s back to reality. And you think to yourself, “I can’t believe it’s really over. That went by so fast. It seems like I just arrived yesterday!”
Well, as much as I love Fred Taylor (my favorite player of all time), the vacation is over. I’m sure Fred is thinking about his first time out of the tunnel in Alltell’s SW corner. We’re all replaying his great moments, and wish we could see ol’ 28 shove another DB 5 yards off the ball.
But that is no more, and as Vic Ketchman says, “It was a football decision.” Do you not see how this is also an act of courtesy to Fred? Now he can go and play for another team, rather than rot in a crowded backfield. This move shows that the new administration plays a serious, intelligent style of ball, and they’re putting on the pads early. And damnit, after years of lackidaisical draft picks, and wishy washy defenses, finally someone is coming in with a steel jaw, holding folks accountable, and making decisions that benefit the future of the franchise.
We love Fred, but the vacation is over. Time will conquer all of us. There’s no way to break that tackle.
Godspeed and God bless to the greatest player ever to wear the Teal and Black! Now, let’s all hope he gets on a team that NEEDS him and he can pass his idol, Jim Brown, in rushing yards. Fred deserves a chance to achieve his dream. Go Jags.
Unfortunately, the truth only comes out game-by-game.
Sad to say but all good things come to an end.
I love Fred and greatly appreciate what he has contributed to this team (who could forget his 90 yard TD run vs Phins in 99 playoff 62 – 7 ass whipping).
I agree with the move to release. This team has a lot of rebuilding to do – get to it. The torch must be passed, as it hs with every other franchise in NFL history. To think that the Jags are somehow insulated from this fact is simply not a realistic expectation.
Thanks Fred and good luck.

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