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Offensive Line Combine Results and Analysis. Michael Crabtree needs surgery

Jason Smith threw up 225 lbs on the bench press 33 times. Oher  managed 21 reps, and Eugene Monroe reached 23 reps. Both have longer arms than Smith does, but that still doesn't account for the entire discrepancy in strength. This will only cause Oher to fall further and the Jags are clearly trying to move out of the #8 spot, so it may end up being a marriage of need and availability.

Michael Crabtree will be lucky to be a first round pick... He's got to have surgery.

This will hurt his draft status big-time. I really struggle seeing him taken anywhere before the 20th pick or so. He's got to have surgery or at some point his foot will simply break completely, that's how stress fractures work. If not treated correctly, they will eventually fracture completely, resulting in a broken foot for Michael. Medical tests are the main reason you have a combine, things like this must be discovered prior to selecting a player. 

It also appears that John Henderson is on the trading block as he has been linked to two trade rumors that both originated from Jacksonville radio... Don't be surprised to see him in another uniform next season too. We are acquiring picks, and as I've said before, there is no sacred cow in Gene Smith's pasture. I'm convinced the guy would trade Jack Del Rio, David Garrard, and his own mother in a package deal for the right price of picks... I love it!

Jason Smith looks to be the most NFL ready lineman, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him gone first. On the other hand, Andre Smith apparently showed up out of shape and didn't work out; apparently combine officials couldn't even locate him this morning. That is not good for his draft stock at all.

While Alabama offensive tackle Andre Smith isn’t working out and has drawn criticism for showing up out of shape and for combine officials being unable to locate him this morning, his competition is making their case to NFL talent evaluators.

Way to go Andre! 

I have a hard time believing he'll still be a top 10 pick with all the character concerns. His suspension from the Sugar Bowl, his struggles with weight, and now we find out he couldn't be located for some of the most important interviews of his life. If you're not going to work out then you've got to at least interview well. 

A list of the top 10 performers in some of the major combine drills. Offensive line and TE.

Jared Cook, TE out of South Carolina was rumored to run in the 4.3's. He turned in a dissappointing 4.5 and likely hurt his stock. If he had run a 4.3 like he mentioned he did when he came into South Carolina and expected to do at the combine, then he'd have been a likely top 15 choice. As it stands now, he may slip into the second round. 

-Collin

 

 

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are the rumors

maybe akin to the ones on jagnation?

btw im new and thank you for the intense coverage

by Surteal on Feb 21, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A big welcome to you

I hope you find a home here and enjoy the site. Please be a part of it. Also, scroll through some of the past stories, if you are new, there is a lot of good information already covered. Our goal is to have every BCC reader ready and informed for the draft.

-Terry

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by Tkopa on Feb 21, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the welcome terry

ive been reading for about a week and a half and its number two on my list of sites to visit after vics blog, which i read that you guys like so its good that i get to skip arguing that the guy knows what hes saying

by Surteal on Feb 21, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts about this post

Percy Harvin will benefit the most.

I thought Michael Crabtree would be a top 7 pick, leaving more OT for us. I don’t like our luck on this.

If Gene can get enough draft picks, Jack, David and his mother can go. I suspect David and his mother would draw the most interest.

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by Tkopa on Feb 21, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If we trade

Henderson and get more picks, who can we get to fill in his position and possibly Mier’s position also, since he has underperformed too?

by ajagsbeliever on Feb 21, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Grady Jackson?

just kidding. If Big John went down, who would we get to fill in? We would have to scheme with the players we have and see where the strength from FA and draft filled in.

The truth is, no one right now can replace John. No one replaced Stroud and we suffered. I honestly think we are in a three year rebuilding process.

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by Tkopa on Feb 21, 2009 8:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

So if we do move out of the 8 spot, I still think Oher would be a great pick. I think he’ suffering from the same kind of “Second Guessing” that caused alot of guys to fall unnecessarily. That being said, Crabtree’s injury is huge. A team that may have gotten him may now target one of the Tackles instead. That being said, be interesting if the Jags trade out and he’s still on the board. He would be a steal.

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by FSBlueApocalypse on Feb 21, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thats what I'm hoping for

If we could trade back to maybe 12-15 that would be great. If Oher is still there, that would be icing on the cake. I don’t think Oher is all that big of a risk, even though I was kind of hoping he would get more reps on the bench, and maybe a little faster 40 time. Oher should be higher on the Jags board than Andre Smith now. But I would not be opposed to taking Andre Smith if we drop back to 15, and Oher is not still there.

by Bestjagfan on Feb 21, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't worry about bench press

Guys with longer arms can’t put out as many reps simply due to the extra effort they have to expend compared to guys who have shorter arms. Plus the 225 bench press is pretty stupid in the first place, its more a test of muscular endurance than raw power, obviously being able to overpower guys for short bursts is more important in the NFL than being able to punch out 30 reps on the bench.

by acpc2203 on Feb 22, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is a great post

Collin deserves credit for this post. He is keeping us all informed in a wonderful fashion.

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by Tkopa on Feb 22, 2009 12:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Collin.

You could be completely right in stating you think he’ll drop out of the top 20. I also think that would be an EXTREMELY HUGE mistake for that to happen. This injury would not affect my decision one bit whatsoever. He’ll be ready by Mid-May, completely fine by training camp and all that hooplah. I would really really love it if he fell to us at eight and would have no problem picking him. Its one minor injury that will be fixed and like Gruden said,“41 touchdowns in 2 years.”

I also have no problem with taking Smith. I would feel lucky if the best OT prospect fell to us and would make us a better team. It was stated that he came overweight at 350, but in fact NFL network found out he’s actually 330 and will continue working out now. His suspension was a minor thing and I think the JAGS would help him put these minor things in the past.

by harveyismyboy on Feb 22, 2009 2:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There is a flaw in every player if we look hard enough

The real question for Gene and the staff is whether it is a fatal flaw or a minor distraction.

Harvey, I’d like to compliment you on how well spoken you have become. When you first came here you threw obnoxious bombs around without backing anything up. Now you have a defined point of view and some very compelling points you state with grace and intelligence. Welcome to BCC. I look forward to reading your opinions.

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by Tkopa on Feb 22, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I got a fever, and it needs...

LeSean Mckoy to be in teal and black next year. Watching highlight tapes of this guy is causing me to halucinate images of MJD and the Real Mckoy tearing up the field for 300 all purpose yards a game. With both of them in the backfield, every single defense in the NFL will cringe when they have the Jags the next Sunday. What do yall think? If we got this guy in the second round after trading back and hopefully picking up a LT in the first round. Wow… I can already see it now. MJD = The Hammer, The Real Mckoy = The Sickle. The Hammer and Sickle… That’s hot

by aibtureman on Feb 22, 2009 7:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We need two second round choices!

Maybe three. Gene would be a genius if he could get three second round draft choices.

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by Tkopa on Feb 22, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Nickname

The Giants have Earth, Wind, and Fire. The Titans have Smash and Dash. We need a catchy back field nickname too. But in all seriousness, I think LeSean McCoy would be a great addition, especially if Gene Smith can get us three second round picks. Hammer and Sickle. Man thats a sweet nickname.

by Bestjagfan on Feb 22, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I agree. We need some more second and third round picks. I saw some highlights on McCoy too. He is like a bigger (wider) MJD. If we got him we would be a good threat to opponents. We have to also think about WR’s too. I was impressed with Mike Wallace today at the combine. He would be a nice addition to the Jags. If we get a few 2nd round picks we could possible get both players. Trading Henderson could give us some picks, but if we trade Henderson, we will also have to think about getting a DL. We also need a safety and CB. So, there is a lot of needs and the bottom line is that we need more picks. I would love to get more picks by trading down, but not from the first round unless we can get a LT and still trade down to get more picks.

I also was impressed with Brain Robiskie. He could be a good pick too. Percy Harvin could kill two birds with one stone and be a running back and a WR (but he will probably go in the 1st round). All good things to think about.

by ajagsbeliever on Feb 22, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Robiskie Did Well

Brian Robiskie did really well at the combine. His best 40 time was 4.49, and he is an outstanding route runner, with good hands. If he could fall to us in the second round, where he is projected to go right now, that would be awesome. He could start next year, as he may be the most polished receiver coming out of the draft. I just don’t understand why the scouts have him falling into the second, he seems like a prototypical wide out to me.

by Bestjagfan on Feb 22, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's because

he doesn’t play at his combine speed on flim. Kinda like Jonny Knox. I didn’t think either would run as fast as they did.

by Ewdtrey on Feb 23, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

top ten

Crabtree will be a top ten pick, I’d take him if he fell to eight.

by kickandsnare07 on Feb 23, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Raiders pick ahead of the Jags

and knowing Al Davis, there’s a good chance they’ll take him.

by SoCalStites on Feb 23, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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