On Letting Greatness Go: Fred Taylor and Marvin Harrison
Fred Taylor and Marvin Harrison: AFC South Giants, both bound for new teams
It's hard to say goodbye:
2009 will be a very strange season for the AFC South. Two giants among men, Fred Taylor and Marvin Harrison will be suiting up for another team, one that's likely to take them out of the division. Both players spent over ten years with their respective franchise, and to an extent, represent the best and brightest of their teams history. Fred Taylor, without any doubt, is the best player in Jaguars history. Marvin Harrison will be forever linked to the offensive success he's found with Peyton Manning. Both players found themselves on the outside looking in at their teams due to their contracts.
[Note by River City Rage, 02/25/09 1:04 PM EST ] If you're a Colts fan, please skip the next paragraph. You'll get all the flattery of Marvin Harrison in the rest of the post, but without the hostility.
Now, in all fairness, this could be an article that praises the Jaguars for handling the Fred Taylor situation with class and dignity and degrades the Colts for demanding that Harrison take a pay cut, but I'll refrain. Instead, I'd like to explore what it means to release a player that nearly defines your franchise.
The Jacksonville Jaguars find themselves in a position where a roster spot is worth more to them than productivity on the field. Fred Taylor would have taken a pay cut to stay with the Jaguars, but was allowed to leave because no pay cut could replace the value of the roster spot that Fred would hold instead of a developing player. There is, of course, no guarantee that said developing player will be nearly as impactful or important to the team as Fred Taylor, in fact there's no way any player can replace Fred in that sense. Rather, the Jaguars must commit space on the roster toward developing a new team, they need every spot available to them for a young player so that they've got every shot to be evaluated and developed.
The Colts, on the other hand, find themselves with the declining skill set and overwhelming salary of a player that they've already replaced with Anthony Gonzalez and Reggie Wayne. They too can use the roster spot of Marvin to develop young talent, but did the right thing in parting ways with the veteran. It's beyond rare for a player to spend his entire career with a franchise. That Marvin and Fred did spend so much time with the Colts and Jaguars speaks volumes about their importance to their teams. That both became free agents before the start of free agency shows that their teams respect them enough to let the move on.
I grew up with Fred Taylor wearing Teal and White (or black). I've not known a Jaguars without him since he was drafted. I argued for him when he was called fragile Fred and I'll never forget his spectacular runs. Marvin, on the other hand, brings bad feelings, simply because he was as close to uncoverable as you could get. Marvin reminds me of the many close games with the Colts that were put away as losses because Marvin ran a route so crisply and was in total sync with Peyton that the best the Jaguars could throw at them was not good enough.
So in this post, at this moment, I say good bye to Fred Taylor and good riddance to Marvin Harrison. The AFC South is worse for their absence, that's for sure.
-Chris
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This confuses me.
Now, in all fairness, this could be an article that praises the Jaguars for handling the Fred Taylor situation with class and dignity and degrades the Colts for demanding that Harrison take a pay cut, but I’ll refrain. Instead, I’d like to explore what it means to release a player that nearly defines your franchise.
I thought that the Jags cut Taylor – as in didn’t want him back. Whereas the Colts tried to keep Marvin, by restructuring his contract. Heck, even the owner spoke with him…
Seems to me the quote should be reversed.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
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by peytonsthebest on Feb 25, 2009 12:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
BTW
other than that, good article and nice read.
It is a bummer losing someone who has made such a lengthy impact for your team, isn’t it?
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Feb 25, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I stand by my words.
Wayne Weaver, Gene Smith, and Jack Del Rio flew to Ft. Lauderdale to meet with Fred to let him know that the team was going to release him because they needed to get younger. Fred offered to restructure, but the team said they’d rather release him than have him take a pay cut. On top of that, they did so with plenty of time before Free Agency began so Fred could find a team early.
They didn’t ask the best player in franchise history to take a pay cut, and I think that shows a lot of class.
The Colts, in my opinion, handled it in a very weird way. 1st, forcing a legend to take a cut to stay with the team, then the “imminent release” followed by the 11th hour intervention by the owner (seemingly against the wishes of Bill Polian), it looked to me like a mismanaged situation, especially considering that it was no surprise to anyone that Marvin’s contract was going to be huge in 2009.
Also, wasn’t Harrison’s deal redone a few years ago to open up space for Freeney or Sanders contracts? The backloading of Harrison’s contract might have been a favor to the team a few years ago, so asking him to take a paycut becomes even more insulting.
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by River City Rage on Feb 25, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon..... Class??
Making him not take a pay cut, but instead cutting him is classy??
I’m not thinking anywhere near the way you are…..
I mean, forcing a legend to to take a cut to stay with the team, is weird yes……… but forcing a legend to leave the team for no good reason and denying him the stay even when he offers a pay cut is weirder dont you think???
I mean the Colts didn’t kick Harrison Out the way the jags did…………..
by jaxjags.. on Feb 25, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see
What do you mean “no good reason”. Is being a 33 year old running back with thousands of carries and at best would renegotiate down to three million a year on a roster that for the sort term needs as many young and developing bodes a good outcome for the Jaguars? The Jaguars have a very good reason in releasing him, that they did so the way they did is the epitome of class. I’d rather them release him now rather than pay him a big roster bonus and then come to the same conclusion in August and cut him then, when he’s far less likely to be picked up by another team.
The Jaguars set him up to sign with another team for good money rather than take a pay cut and maybe (a big maybe, but a definite possibility) that he find himself on the outside looking in.
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by River City Rage on Feb 25, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then your not being classy...... that's being expedient.
Cutting Fred would have been nothing if he had a journeyman’s career……
But hey man……….. we’ll put it plain…… the jags simply dis-respected a deal they had mutually signed years ago…………..
I don’t know…… but it sort of gives me the feeling that at least the colts tried to keep Harrison but the jags simply wanted no more Fred……….
by jaxjags.. on Feb 25, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was classy of them
I think to keep him would have been demeaning. He wouldn’t reach the Jim Brown line. He wouldn’t end up in the Hall of Fame. He was going to be back up and he was going to be paid like one. Personally I think I would be offending someone if I asked him to take a backup role and then tell him he’s not worth the monetary value he’s placed upon himself.
Imagine you’re in there trying to a work a deal and he says he wants 4 mill and a starting spot, but you only value his services at 2-3 mill. I’d hate to tell someone as classy as he is that he’s not as good as he thinks he is. In the end, keeping him on the roster would be just an attempt to crowd please.
Also keep in mind, he said if he was going to restructure his contract he was gonna want more money up front.
by Ewdtrey on Feb 25, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can add....
Derrick Brooks to the list.
by Jaggernaut on Feb 25, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice article
I like the pic of Fred you used. I miss the teal jersey with the black pants, that looked sweet. I agree with everything you said, it will be different not seeing Fred in teal but we will all get accustomed soon enough. As for Marvin, I say dont let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. I wont miss the incredible catches he put on us. Now if we can just do something about Peyton.
by JagSoldier on Feb 25, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Peyton, unfortunatly for us
Is very young, regardless of his actual age. He’s so rarely hit that he’ll play well into his high 30’s
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by River City Rage on Feb 25, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
33
33 for a QB is still young. Favre played until he was 39.
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by BigBlueShoe on Mar 5, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
I love the Teal with Black pants, it might be my favorite uniform.
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by River City Rage on Feb 25, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All black........
There’s no uniform like that one………
I love it……..
by jaxjags.. on Feb 25, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite part of the picture of Fred
are the people who are ankle high. Colts.
by SoCalStites on Feb 25, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh, really.
There’s just no way I would do that intentionally…
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by River City Rage on Feb 25, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can only imagine
how difficult it was for Gene and JDR to have to inform Fred that he was being cut. Can you imagine telling your all-time leading rusher and biggest name that he was being cut.?A lot of you are upset at the organization claiming that they showed no class but I disagree. Would you like to be the one who had to break the news to the Jaguars best player in their short history that he just wasnt what they needed anymore? They treated the situation like professionals and so did Fred. He is 33 and they need youth on this team. They get it and he gets it. But it still sucks to see our hero go.
by JagSoldier on Feb 26, 2009 9:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not to blow smoke up your...
but that was very well stated.
by jagsfanbrunell on Feb 26, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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