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Pete Prisco: Taking us to the Gun Show

I was told this morning that Big Cat Country was turning into a scouting site rather than a Jaguars site.  This is a fair criticism and indictative of my absolute disappointment in last season.  I overreacted in my depression and then counter-overreacted in my focus on the draft.  But there's a method to my madness, at least looking at potential future Jaguars is a way to think about 2009 in a way that's within the parameters of reality.  Others out there who comment on the Jaguars have a much less reality based way of looking at things.

Take Pete Prisco, for example.  He's proud to not like the Jaguars.  It's one of the things that makes his show interesting. (930 The Fox, 3-6pm weekdays).  Unfortunately, he's also in the Michael Silver club of inane statements about the Jaguars that have zero basis in reality.

You see, he recently told his listening audience that he spoke to some sort of "high-ranking" official withing the NFL who told him that if the Jaguars have blackout trouble, that whomever Wayne Weaver sells the team to would consider moving the team to London.   Vic Ketchman was there as well adding fuel to the fire with talks of blackouts and all sorts of doom and gloom.  Typically, we can usually count on these stories popping up during the "dead zone" of June and July, but Prisco opened up the can before the Pro Bowl could even kickoff. 

You see my problem here?  If my choices are responding to Pete Prisco suggesting that the NFL is ready at this current moment to sustain a team in London and that the Jaguars are the team to move based off of blackouts or looking in the crystal ball at interesting draft prospects, then yes, I'm gonna overload on prospect previews. 

I simply loathe the yearly banging of the "Jaguars are for sale, Jaguars are moving" drum.  It's happened every offseason for the last five seasons and I'm sick of it.  Every time Wayne Weaver says "the team will stay in Jacksonville" in response to yet another overblown story I feel worse and worse for Wayne for having to answer the same question each and every year. 

When there's a stadium in L.A. or there's a concentrated effort to play in London AND the Jaguars are clearly demonstrating an inability to stay in Jacksonville, then we can entertain these stupid ideas.  But as long as the Stadium is up to par, I don't foresee the team leaving anytime soon.  If you want to find a team that's in serious trouble of moving, it's the Minnesota Vikings.  But no, Jacksonville gets the stigma of being in all sorts of financial trouble because of "bad fans".

It's crap and people like Prisco and Ketchman know it.  The balance sheet of the Jaguars is not in the red because of the regular bowl seats, it's the club seats and deluxe boxes that struggle to fill.  The City lacks the big corporations to buy up huge blocks of seats and all the boxes, so it's a bit of a street fight to fill the seats that make the big money.  Don't blame bad fans for not having the purchasing power to buy the expensive seats, take the time and make a legitimate argument about the state of the city of Jacksonville instead. 

But don't throw around "inside sources" and vague rumors.  Don't start the offseason with that nonsense.  It's one thing to drum up news, another thing entirely to basically make things up.  If you're going to drop a line like that, you either name the source or explain why they deserve their anonymity, otherwise there's no way to trust it.

/rant

-Chris

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Its all Dead zone hoopla anyway Chris. Dont let it get you too riled up. What you say is true though. The city just isnt there yet and the Jags suffer for it. But the team will always get support from blue collored guys like us. This team isnt going anywhere.

by JagSoldier on Feb 6, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Annoying

it really is annoying to all of us hearing this every single year. Why can’t they just leave it alone? I don’t know. All we can do is buy our tickets and support the Jaguars.

Hopefully this selling the team crap ends up having a reverse effect, and fans go out of their way to buy more tickets or keep tickets they were maybe planning on dropping due to hard times.

That’s what it’s doing for me. I live in California now and was thinking about dropping one of my tickets this year because I can only make it to one or two games per season. Screw that. I’m keeping both and giving them away to friends when I can’t be there.

by jimbrophoto on Feb 6, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to get riled up over this

As long as Pete Prisco is saying it and Vic or someone big isn’t then I’m ok with it. As far as Bigcatcountry becoming too much of a scouting site, I can see where that’s coming from, but what else do we have to talk about. The Jaguars are not going to do much in free agency and everything else that we can talk about is just speculation that usually leads to some sort of paranoia.

by SoCalStites on Feb 6, 2009 1:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Alright, I could somehow rationalize LA

but seriously, LONDON!? I mean honestly, they would have to make an entire European division just to make some kind of sense financially. The London talk is pure BS to help keep the hype up the regular season games.

"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks

by Jonathan Loesche on Feb 6, 2009 5:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

London (Europe) is nonsense!

Yeah, Europeans like to go see 1 game pro year, but the disaster of NFL Europe showed everyone, that it is not a potential NFL territory. And England? Land of rugby and soccer? I just saw a couple of days ago a game of a 5th division team. Full house, thousands of people. Soccer is their sport, not the NFL. I remember after the Miami- Ny Giants game how many spectators said how slow the game was for them, there are to many breaks on the game, etc. I know people buy the tickets within ours, but they are from all across Europe (from Hungary for example, where the sport is literaly booms right now), but for 8 games? I don’t think so! NFL Team in Europe sounds so serious, like for a European the MLS (Major League Soccer). Plus one more thing, when they wanna play the games? 18:00(1:00 PM would start in that time) every home game? Plus how happy would be London with the Jaguars?
For me it is another attempt, to make us, Jaguars fan bitter and upset. I know after the 5-11 season and the Jaguars have a “not the best people ever see” schedule n ‘09, but with another blackout free season like ’08 was(let’s not talk about sometimes it was very close to be a blackout) the fans can send a message to everyone:
THE JAGUARS BELONGS TO JACKSONVILLE!!!!

by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 6, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry Pete Prisco was referenced

on such a high class site as this one.

I really don’t know, but my season ticket renewal form came yesterday and asked me to respond by February 20th. It is interesting the Jaguars Balckout references come in this period.

- Terry

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by Tkopa on Feb 6, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Coincidence?

I’ve never regarded the Jaguars PR department with much respect, but they somehow find a way to get people worried about blackouts whenever renewals or single ticket sales go out. Off the subject It’s a shame they don’t really understand the Internet. I’ve never had more trouble with a team than the Jaguars when it comes to media requests.

The Indianapolis Colts and Tennessee Titans have been 100% more friendly/helpful than the Jaguars whenever I’ve had issues/questions. Strange, isn’t it?

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by River City Rage on Feb 6, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How was with Vic?

When you made the interview with Vic Ketchman last year was an easy thing to make the interview?
I mean the preparation to make the interview was easy, or you must take some extra rounds to make the interview with him?

by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 6, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That was a brief "thawing"

Vic and I got in touch via email and it went from there. The interview itself was done over the phone and then (painstakingly) transcribed. The interview itself was about 45 minutes, the transcribing took much longer.

For new readers, If you’ve not read the interview. Here’s part 1 and part 2.

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by River City Rage on Feb 6, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

for the quick answer!

by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 6, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

*Looks over at tinfoil hat*

It would make some sense for the “Blackout” talk to drum up again when season ticket renewals would go up. Not to mention every team/sporting event is struggling. I just picked up 2 tickets to the Daytona 500 from the ticket office online for $80, including the ticketbasterd fees. Normally you can’t touch those for under $100 a piece.

"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks

by Jonathan Loesche on Feb 6, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's an American Sport!

Hasn’t European NFL proved this already?

Who has more Blckouts this year the Jags or the Lions?

by Jaghomer on Feb 9, 2009 7:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

OK I don't think this is really fair

Every one keeps saying that NFL Europe proved that American football wont work in Europe. Did anyone here watch NFL Europe? It was the most boring version of football I’ve ever seen. It was the scrubs who couldn’t make an NFL squad, but still wanted to keep their NFL hopes alive. If a player in their league made a good play or two, he was whisked off to play with the big boys. The league would’ve been doomed no matter where it was and it’s unfair to think that American football has no shot at popularity overseas. I agree with FSBlue that it is financially stupid to think that a franchise will play that far away and cause so much travel. There have been talks on ESPN that the effects of a west coast team playing on the east coast is unfair, can you imagine the lag that would result from that flight?

By the way I’d bet it was the Jags with more blackouts because wins aren’t everything. The Lions have loyal fans who go to their games regardless and the Jaguars haven’t quite reached that point yet.

by SoCalStites on Feb 9, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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