Starting at WR, #81, Torry Holt?

by Jonathan Loesche on Mar 23, 2009 10:30 PM EDT in Rumors Comment 25 comments

The hot rumor is that the Jaguars are currently in contact with Torry Holt's agent, and may be coming for a visit. This would go along with Gene Smith's statement that the Jaguars would go after a veteran WR.

Holt is 32 and would be in his 12th season if he starts 2009 as a Jaguar. However, Jimmy Smith posted three 1,000 yard seasons after 32. Let's be clear, Holt is no longer the dominant #1 receiver he was for most of his time as a Ram. However, he would be head and shoulders above any of the current receivers the Jaguars have.

If this is a situation similar to Tra Thomas, I'm all for it. If we can pick Holt up on a low risk contract, where all the guaranteed money is up front, then I say go for it. What do the Jaguars have to lose? He instantly lands them credibility as a legitimate threat.

Even if we don't sign him, what's the risk of bringing him in for a visit. What can it hurt? If nothing else, ESPN might actually stat bother to get our players names right again.

-John

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Draft scenarios if Jaguars land Holt?

More chance they draft Sanchez (or Stafford if we’re lucky) or do you think that this would be a good chance to grab either Maclin or Harvin to have holt help groom? I’m leaning towards Maclin or Harvin. I also think it’d help out Mike Walker a lot as well, he was saying in one interview how he idolizes Holt and would love to learn from him.

by JagsNguyen on Mar 23, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Whoever is high on their draft board and it won't by Hypechez.

by Slvrgun on Mar 23, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

surreal to be teal

by Surteal on Mar 24, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Greatest Show on Turf: Volume 2

Well, not really. But I would love for us to sign Holt to a 2-3 year contract, and give our receiving corps a boost. He may not be the burner he once was, but he is still a legit deep threat. Holt would also help Walker and whichever rookie we draft/pickup learn the position even further.

Maybe not the greatest show on turf again, but about as close as the Jaguars are going to get to a Pro Bowl receiver until Mike Walker becomes great.

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by Bestjagfan on Mar 23, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

At this point..

I’ll take an average show on turf.

by SoCalStites on Mar 24, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm with you there

by JCJag on Mar 24, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

or on grass for that matter

by Ewdtrey on Mar 25, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Before we jump the gun, there’s about 14 other teams interested in Holt, maybe more. The Jags obviously don’t want another Jerry Porter incident marring the organization so I don’t see them offering a lot. But I wouldn’t mind having him and say Harvin, Crabtree or Maclin. Sounds kinda nice Crabtree and Holt.

by cliff1982 on Mar 23, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And Northcutt

In the slot. If he stays below five drops I’d be happy

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by Bestjagfan on Mar 23, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right now

Harvin is the best choice out of the three. Crabtree, although very good, has foot issues and Maclin had a good not great pro day and is not a player on the big stage like Harvin. Both harvin and maclin may be around in the second round with the way OL is being addressed

by DeeMoe on Mar 24, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Harvin has had his share of injuries as well....

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by silencecs on Mar 24, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Harvin has trouble staying on the field

Crabtree only discovered a stress fracture during the combine look inside. I don’t think either sounds better than the other from a durability point of view.

Of the three, Maclin is looking like the top favorite, but I hate a receiver that high in the draft.

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by Tkopa on Mar 24, 2009 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, the only 1st round WR I'll be happy about is Heyward Bey

I’m in the minority on that viewpoint too. I know most people don’t want a WR in the first bc of our abject failure at the position.

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by silencecs on Mar 24, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah maybe him

But (mostly I guess because of the “sucess” of the 1st round of our WRs I will have a bad feeling about a WR draftedin the 1st round. But of course, if the guy turn out to be the next Jimmy Smith, or Calvin Johnson then pick him…

by Zoltan from Budapest on Mar 24, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

NOOOOOOO!

There are no WR worth a top ten first round pick, even Crabtree. I have the strongest feeling that we will draft one on the first day— er second day since the first day is only two rounds. I think we will get a small school productive player. Can anyone say with me Johnny Knox?

by DeeMoe on Mar 24, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not the biggest Knox fan

I like Austin Collie from BYU late. Ramses Barden will go in the 3rd or 4th and I really like him. Mike Thomas from Arizona is a personal favorite too. This draft is too deep with WRs to reach for one of the hyped guys early.

by SoCalStites on Mar 24, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Knox

is a good 6th or 7th rounder. But he’s got a lot of learning to do, and he doesn’t play 4.34 fast. He looks more like a 4.5 guy on the field. I don’t really like Barden. He’s very much like Matt Jones. Tall, not strong going for the ball, not a great route runner, and kind of slow.

by Ewdtrey on Mar 25, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok Ok

I see your point, let’s see what happens with Torry Holt. I am also curious to see what a healthy Mike Walker can do. He kinda teased us in Pittsburgh, got hurt and lingered on the bench or maybe didn’t catch David’s eye enough.

by DeeMoe on Mar 24, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mike Walker

is going to be a stud. Heres a guy that I do have a good feeling about. As long as he can stay healthy he will prove it.

by JagSoldier on Mar 24, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I Agree

I see such great potential in Walker. Maybe the next Derrick Mason, except Walker is bigger, and has better hands. Mason always body catches.

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by Bestjagfan on Mar 24, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've kinda had it with "potential" at WR for the Jags.

Last year’s squad was LOADED with POTENTIAL. What ACTUALLY transpired on the field was the worst WR corp in the league. Walker is injury prone. He can have all the talent in the world, but if he can’t get onto the field, who the hell needs him. So I completely disagree with the ’Stud" prognostications

Harvin is also injury prone – look elsewhere in the draft.

I’d love to get Holt. Unlike the Porter disaster of last year, Holt has an actual accomplished resume as a #1 WR and he’s a high character guy to boot.

Completely blow up last year’s WR losers. Get a high character, high work ethic guy like Holt – get young, hungry WR’s in later rounds and UFA’s who can actually run correct routes, can actually get open, and can actually catch a ball IN AN ACTUAL GAME and not look just look great in practice (a la Williamson). Then we may be onto something. Drafting 1st round busts at WR needs to stop ASAP.

by OGN on Mar 24, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Walker Was Drafted In The Third Round

So I wouldn’t label him as a first round bust. And, I wouldn’t say he isn’t hungry, even now, either. There was recently an article on Jaguars.com about Walkers story and how he is still hungry, and how he would love to have a veteran addition like Holt to help him refine his game. Who knows, maybe the new strength coach will be able to keep Walker healthy.

Last years group weren’t all losers. Jerry Porter, Matt Jones, sure, I’ll agree there. But, Williamson and Walker just had trouble staying healthy. Williamson never dropped a pass either, and I remember the Denver game in which he had something like a 50 yard touchdown pass called back because of a holding penalty by, who else, Khalif Barnes.

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by Bestjagfan on Mar 24, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

C'mon guys

Our receivers didn’t really suck in 2007 (or at least we didn’t notice it as much) when David had time to throw. We just had a bad case of the dropsies, which didn’t really magnify itself because of MJD and Fred running the 2nd best rush offense in the league. In 2008, you lose your top three offensive lineman before the first quarter of the first game. I’m surprised we held it together for half a season and even were in some ball games. So now you see our problem magnified. This year, we will have a healthy offensive line and a healthy Mike Walker who , IMO, has is the most dependable wide receiver on our team. I believe this is the breakout year for him. I believe Vic when he says he has #1 potential and this is the year we see it. Torry Holt is the cherry on top because of name only. He will be 33 before the season starts and unless your name is Joey Galloway most 33 year old receivers that have played as much as he has don’t have much left in the tank for speed. He knows how to get open and will share that with the young talent we have and will get.

by DeeMoe on Mar 25, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs