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2009 Scouting Report: Better Know a Draft Prospect: Percy Harvin, WR, Florida

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I believe it says something about Percy Harvin's role at UF that I listed him as a WR and SBN's player index has him as a running back. Harvin's pure atheltic talent can't be denied. I believe he had just as much to do with UF winning last year's national title at Tebow. However, the question we all must ask ourselves is how does his game translate to the Pro level.

The player many see Harvin as being closest is Reggie Bush. We all remember how Bush was a can't miss guy who would set the world on fire. When Bush starts next season, he will have amased 3149 total career yards and 20 career touchdowns.

Harvin also played in Florida's spread offense, which may have masked his weaknesses and put him behind the curve on other essentials. However, what is the risk vs the reward.

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Percy Harvin: By the numbers

At A Glance
Position 1:  WR/Returner Height:  5'11
Position 2:  Running Back
Weight:192
Class:  Junior Age:  22
Projected Round: 1

 40time:  4.41

Harvin's gifts as an athlete are undeniable. However, one thing the table doesn't show is Harvin's injury history. Harvin never made it through a full season in Hogtown and that has to be a concern.

According To The Experts

Positives

Mocking The Draft: Harvin possesses possibly the best first step off the line not only in this draft class, but of the last several years. He's explosive off the snap, which allows him to immediately get open on slants routes. Harvin bursts into and out of his cuts with an strong plant foot. Coaches said he is a strong competitor with great work ethic

FF Toolbox: Harvin can run under 4.3 in the 40 and he is just as elusive as he is fast. Anytime he touches the ball he has touchdown potential, regardless of where he is on the football field.

NFL Spot: First and foremost you have to talk about Harvin's speed. Harvin may be the fastest prospect in this years class. Along with being fast, Harvin is highly athletic and can change directions like the wind.

 

Negatives

Mocking The Draft: Harvin might be good at a lot of different things, but a master of none. He might not be able to be relied on as a true No. 1 receiver and is far too slender to regularly carry the ball as a running back. Has a long history of injury problems.

FF Toolbox: The knock on Harvin, of course, is his size. He stands just 5'11'' and 195 pounds, so it remains to be seen how he will deal with bigger, stronger cornerbacks at the next level

NFL Spot: Harvin has a history of injuries, so durability is a concern. Harvin was not your classic type receiver, so things like route running are going to need some work. Harvin also isn't quite as big as you would like

Why Should Percy Harvin Be a Jaguar

Just as I said about Jeremy Maclin, Harvin would be a tremendous assett to the team. He would provide a legitimate home run threat. In addition, he could potentially be able to team up with MJD in the backfield. Harvin has great character and work ethic, the magic words for Emperor Smith.

-John

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What do you think of Percy Harvin?
Great player, would immediately help the Jags offense
150 votes
Not sure: Injury bug and poor route running vs pure skill
79 votes
Overrated player who won't transfer to the NFL
26 votes
John managed to go this whole article without taking a shot at UF? I'm impressed!
23 votes

278 votes | Poll has closed

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I'm sorry...

but I get a little pumped imagining Harvin and MJD on the field at the same time. I know we would all like the Jaguars to trade down, get him, and a few extra picks. If this could happen, I would be all for drafting Harvin in the middle of the first round.

by jagsfanbrunell on Mar 9, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok

You can have Heyward Bey, let the Jaguars have Harvin… Just kidding just kidding… I like HB also, either guy would be an upgrade to that offense.

by jagsfanbrunell on Mar 9, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i take dhb

but if we got harvin i would not disagree.
it brings up this question..
Maclin or Harvin in the mid-1st range?
or do we pass on wr in rd 1? i know its bap but wr will end up tied with a big man somewhere in the first

surreal to be teal

by Surteal on Mar 9, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DHB had longer catches, harvin had shorter catches

but i dont really know

surreal to be teal

by Surteal on Mar 9, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't

pay attention to that as much considering all the differences between the types offenses and what kind of catches were being made.

by Ewdtrey on Mar 9, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stats

Harvin: Rec. Yards 1,929 Rec. TD’s 13 Rushing Yards 1851 Rush TD’s 19
DHB: Rec. Yards 2,089 Rec. TD’s 13 Rushing Yards 314 Rush TD’s 2

Also take into consideration there opposition week in and week out and what they have meant for there respective teams. Could not find the YAC stats.

by jagsfanbrunell on Mar 9, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HArvin ar 8 or DHB at 18...

Which would you take now?

The End Is Nigh...

by silencecs on Mar 9, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's definitely the reason why DHB seems so appealing to me

He offers so much and it seems like whoever drafts him will be getting it at great value. 18 even seems to be higher than where most mocks have him. I’ve seen more than 1 mock where the Jaguars select him with the 39th overall.

by SoCalStites on Mar 9, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harvin without a doubt.

Harvin can be used in so many different ways. Is a natural athlete: versatile, fast, agile, and quick. He has great lateral movement and I don’t see any problems regarding his hands. I know he has a penchant for getting hurt but I wouldn’t look too much into it. Running crisper routes can be taught more effectively at the NFL level. While I see comparisons to Reggie Bush I think he is a better hybrid than Bush. With Harvin we could do all kinds of things. He can go deep, line up in the backfield with MJD, catch across the middle, etc. Ideally I would trade the 8th pick away and get him between pick 25-30 (i’m no draft expert).

by Slvrgun on Mar 9, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to add this: The Jaguars are desperate of an identity.

Our running game will not be the same and we are not considered a passing threat.

but…that could change.

I’d like to see a versatile and balanced team capable of beating you in the short to mid range game and occasionally the deep ball (maybe 2 or 3 per game). We already have a Brian Westbrook with (with NO2 Boost) in MJD capable of pounding the rock and catching the ball and running for extra yards. Throw in some more quick guys and we could have a very dangerous offense. If we can get a guy like Pat White (which I believe can be a successful QB in the NFL) and you have dual threats everywhere: guys who can pass and run, run and catch, run you over and catch etc.

I’d call it a Powered UP Finesse Team Lol.

by Slvrgun on Mar 9, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a college team to me

Dual threats everywhere just sounds like a spread offense to me. This isn’t college and the NFL defenses are much bigger, stronger, and most importantly, faster than college. If this team becomes a flashy, dink and dunk offense with finesse then I’d be very disappointed. I like my offensive line to be built of large guys who can move the defensive line backwards and win through a power running game. No reverses, end arounds, half back passes, etc. just give it to the running back and slam it between the guard and center for 5 yards then do it again and again until they put 8 or 9 in the box, then you pass over their heads.. You say the Jaguars are desperate for an identity, well that’s their identity and that’s what it needs to continue to be.

by SoCalStites on Mar 9, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Line up in a 2 TE set with the Wishbone formation

RUN THAT BALL!

Every down is fine by me. I love power football, that’s my cup ’o tea.

The End Is Nigh...

by silencecs on Mar 9, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wishbone!!!

The Wish Bone and the option spread(Georgia Tech) are beastly. I don’t know if it would work in the NFL, but if it does, pound it. Three yards and a cloud of dust.

Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.

by Bestjagfan on Mar 9, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sound pretty conservative....I like creativity...not gimmicks....

I know the difference between college and the NFL but that doesn’t mean you can’t be creative.

by Slvrgun on Mar 9, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying it's the way to win a championship...

I just said it’s my preferred method of football to watch. I don’t think any teams run the wishbone anymore… the Wildcat is the new form of it.

Physically abusing your opponent for 60 min is what I like… not a west-coast style pass attack.

The End Is Nigh...

by silencecs on Mar 9, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I may have oversimplified it a little

The ideal offense to me is a team that passes the ball too, but they run to set up the pass. There has never been a Super Bowl champion, or even a conference champion, that doesn’t run the ball successfully. Even the pass oriented Cardinals from this last season and the ’07 Patriots started running the ball well up the middle once the playoffs started. The last, true running oriented team that won a Super Bowl to me would be the ’05 Steelers. They were 1st in the NFL in rushing attempts and 32nd in passing attempts.

by SoCalStites on Mar 9, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good player. I would love to have him as a Jag next year.

by ajagsbeliever on Mar 9, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im with ya

we may be in the minority, but ive watched him and hes great i just dont see him being him in the nfl
look at reggie bush.
he is different, more of a wr they say. i agree but i want surefire picks this year, not percy harvins
You might say he is surefire, look at his production. Well what was his surefire position? When his athleticism isnt enough every week for the most brutal season he will have had his entire life, what will he rely on?

surreal to be teal

by Surteal on Mar 9, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how about more experienced at a particular position

surefire that they understand it
harvin supposedly bombed interviews

surreal to be teal

by Surteal on Mar 9, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love Harvin's play making abilities BUTTTTTT -

he is injury prone. Best to look elsewhere.

by OGN on Mar 9, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He can't stay on the field in college ball

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by Tkopa on Mar 9, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Having been watching him for 3 years at UF

I can tell you that Harvin has been much more important to our (and I do say our for UF, but I am very careful to never refer to the Jags as “we” or “us” or "our") team than Tim Tebow. Harvin is the true MVP of nearly every important victory. His skills are amazing.

……I also want no part of having him on the Jaguars. Percy always had a sprain or a pull or a bird flu or something; he was fantastic when he was on the field, but there were way too many times when he just wasn’t on the field. I loved watching him play, and obviously I’m a huge Gator fan, but as a Jaguar fan, the risks outweigh the benefits.

by MoveThoseChains on Mar 9, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Reggie Bush or Percy Harvin?

Who would you rather have? I got dibs on Reggie.

by Ewdtrey on Mar 9, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bush

Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.

by Bestjagfan on Mar 9, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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