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Boldin, Holt, Moreno, Harivn...What an Offense that Sells Tickets...It could happen!

Could this be the perfect situation for the Jags to work out the best trades and draft in the team's history? When looking at the state of the Jag nation, we need to understand that we must create some excitement and have some PLAYERS that our market will buy a ticket to see. That means offensive...offensive...offensive! And, Players our collage heavy town knows and will support. I am tired of watching us far short and we have a small window to make a real run at the Superbowl. So we must make the most of it now! It's not Garrad's fault either. He had an impotent receiving corps and a weak O-line giving him no time last year. Drafting another quarterback is not what you do to a person you claimed as your commander and paid big money to last year. The NFL is a business and selling tickets is what it’s all about in the end. So  consider this ideal scenario: 1). Jags trade 8th pick and a second round pick next year to Denver for their 12th and 18th pick this year. 2). Jags trade Cardinals a 1st round pick for next year and sign Antwan Boldin (A Florida Native) (Best Choice). Jags also sign Tory Holt. He is very dependable veteran and stable but not as explosive as Boldin. But at the very least we must get Boldin. He will get the Nole nation out to the stadium. Jag’s have the money to pull this off too. 3). Jags can use their 12th and 18th pick to get another top receiver and running back here. Although we signed Drew...he is an injury away from the sideline at any time and running backs take too much punishment and we need a backup in this critical position. I think we should take Georgia Running back Moreno at 12th pick (Generates huge support from the strong base of Ga fans in Jacksonville) and then Percy Harvin (A Florida standout) who is very explosive from anywhere on the field and will get the gator nation to buy tickets too. 4). The Jags should be able to pick up Josh Freeman K-State's QB in the second round to backup Garrard. A good safe pick or maybe even be able to get another Wideout like Ohio State's Robiski (very safe pick) in early round two. Then the Jags can focus on the draft to fill the problems in the O-line that was way too thin last year. This could create more buzz and ticket sales than ever in Jacksonville! Just think of that lineup. Garrad behind a good solid O-line with Jones Drew and Moreno in the backfield...Percy Harvin in the slot or H-Back spot and Antwan Boldin and Holt on the outside. What an offensive that could be! It would be defensive coordinator’s nightmare and sell a lot of tickets I’m sure. What do you think?         

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Holt

he signing can happen and I hope it will. Boldin-forget it-this team will rebuild itself via draft not by trading for else. Moreno well, I think it will not happen, I not heard anyone who considered him as a serious candidate for the jags. Harvin, could happen, we will see.
And by the way, yeah it is good when you have an offense with sexy names, but you nkow what sells tickets really? Wins, wins, and one more time wins!

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 19, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

You should stop playing Madden so much

Ok so let’s add the contract that Holt gets, which will probably be in the $5 million a year range (pure guesswork). Then add the Boldin contract of $10 million a year that he’ll demand in an extension. Add the Moreno contract for 12th overall which should be around $3 million a year. Add the Harvin contract which would be another $2 million a year. So money wise we’re spending an absolutely stupid amount of money on the thing that isn’t the problem.

We need to build the line to get back to 2007 form. “Then the Jags can focus on the draft to fill the problems in the O-line that was way too thin last year.” With what? The 1st rounders were spent. The 2nd rounder is gone. The 3rd rounder is probably gone too for Boldin. The 1st from next year is gone. So what’s left? You want a line that’s built from second day picks? That’ll be a crappy offense no matter how talented the receivers and running backs are.

The defense was absolutely terrible last year and your plan leaves it even worse than before. It’ll have to subsist off of second day picks too.

by Adam Stites on Apr 19, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree

i mean its great to imagine things, but the solid, proven way to build a team is from the inside-out.
We need lineman, they are not exciting, but they are the groundwork. You can’t build a house on air. That’s what we would be doing. We have to have a foundation. We do have some lineman, but we need those young, upstart guys on the line. Depth, and possibly some starters.

Great idea, but wait until next year to dream of that big wide-open offense.

Surreal to be Teal

by Surteal on Apr 19, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, the defense

the Jaguars must focus on that area in a big way this draft. The defese was tis team’s calling card.
The Jags must find a way to this will be once again be true for this team.

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 19, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Homey, Homey, Slow Down Bro'

Just go back to the drawing board and rethink this one man. Winning sells tickets; not big name free agents and overrated draft picks. We need to build the defense up, upgrade the offensive line, particularly at the right tackle spot. Granted, we need to get David G. some weapons, but don’t trade away all of your picks and your future to get them.

Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.

by Bestjagfan on Apr 19, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Drafting Gators Does Not Help Ticket Sales

We’re not the Jacksonville Gators. How many more Gators we gotta sign or draft for that to become true? No matter how many, it’s not going to help ticket sales in the least if you can’t pull of the wins. We need unconditional support. We can have Harvin, Boldin, Jerry Rice, TO, Randy Moss, Drew Miller, Howard Stern AND Jessica Alba out there running routes, but if David Garrard can’t stay off his ass, it won’t matter. We won’t win, and more fans will come up with an excuse to cancel their tickets. I personally don’t want the Jaguars to be the All-Gator team.

by Blair72 on Apr 20, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

touche

I heard she’s a 0-tech

Surreal to be Teal

by Surteal on Apr 20, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Jessica Alba as mascot, speaking to team…“Win the superbowl and you get me….”

Ok, I went too far with that one. Sorry. No disrespect. I’m a huge Alba fan…. : )

…..if you know what I mean.

by Blair72 on Apr 20, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

You all can

coach her if you want. I’ll be lined up across from her in press coverage, ready to tackle her. lol

by Ewdtrey on Apr 20, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Talk O Line before this other stuff

Blair is right we can have superman out there running routes but Garrard can’t throw balls or do hand offs laying on his backside invest that money in a good line then lets talk about all the extras

by jesusjagfan2009 on Apr 20, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

One more time I repeat

names can help boost the ticket sells, but what really sells tickets: Wins, wins, and wins!

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 20, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions  

What really sells tickets

Are big name winners. MJD for instance.

by Adam Stites on Apr 20, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

You right

but wins enough I think. Names like Maurice are the premium!

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 20, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

… or we could just trade all of our draft picks this year so we can pick up tebow next year :)
[/sarcasm]

by sgillespie on Apr 20, 2009 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

We should draft him

just to show how little he, like any other individual college player, effects ticket sales.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 20, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Money sells tickets.

And until Jaguars fans committ cash to support the team, winning won’t even get the job done. If I recall, two years ago (when we went 11-5) there were still blackout issues. So, the “winning sells tickets” argument isn’t even strong enough to overcome the reality that fan support through monetary commitment is actually what sells tickets and what creates a well-anchored franchise. And while winning certainly is a factor in driving that commitment, it is neither the end nor the beginning.

Unfortunately, the truth only comes out game-by-game.

by arthardie on Apr 20, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Mainly Because...

The season before that the Jags went 8-8. So people weren’t exactly scrambling to get season tickets. But then the Jags go 11-5 two years ago, and look what happens. This past season there was not one blackout because the Jags went 11-5, beat the Steelers in the playoffs, there was talk of getting to a Super Bowl…

Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.

by Bestjagfan on Apr 20, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it definitely won't be like that this season

Need I refer back to the article I wrote a few weeks ago, lol…

I agree. Losing apparently causes fans in Jax to come up with the most ridiculous excuses to cancel their tickets, when in reality it’s a fair weather thing.

by Blair72 on Apr 20, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

This season there could be anywhere from 2 to 7 blackouts, just because the Jaguars went 5-11 last season. But lets say the Jags pull an immaculate turn around this season and go 10-6 and squeeze into the playoffs as the sixth seed. The 2010 season won’t have a blackout.

Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.

by Bestjagfan on Apr 20, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what Vic wrote in his Q&A this mornign

it seemed like he was saying Wayne bought the extra tickets last season to preven blackouts. If that’s the case, a playoff win doesn’t even matter in J’ville.

Maybe you can theorize an answer to this question: Why is it so hard for the Jaguars to sell club seats (I think that’s what they’re called)?

by Blair72 on Apr 20, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that is

the biggest question the jaguars have when it comes to ticket sales. And somehow they must sold that problem soon!
About blackouts this season: I see 3 games which have the blackout threat: St Louis, Kansas and Miami (if the season won’t go well that late).
I think the 3 AFC South games are safe (specially Colts, Titans) then Arizona (home opener, defending NFC Champ, Fittzgerald), Bills with T. O. in town also might be easier then was last year,..St Louis will be a tough on because the hard schedule start (The Jags might stand 1-3, or even…. no, I hope that not gonna happen…)Kansas Is another tough one, but if the Jags are in the hunt, maybe not; but it is a candidate, and Miami, if the season won’t go well, but when the Jaguars are still contenders in that time, then I think there will be no problem.

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 20, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jags Go 8-8

Thats my official predictions. I would love to win 10 games though. If they can pull that off, Del Rio can buy himself two more years without going on the hotseat.

Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.

by Bestjagfan on Apr 20, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

This season is about winning time for the future&rebuilding

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 20, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think we're that far away man

We just need a couple of receivers, a DT, a corner, and a winning mindset.

by Blair72 on Apr 20, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

And some

Offensive lineman as well, I agree. And now that the Jaguars get Holt, we need one hungry lion in around the 2-3 round(and maybe one in the 6-7th).
1 problem less, I hope!think.

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 20, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zoltan

I agree that we need offensive lineman, but that would be to prepare for the future. If the line stays healthy, we need no linemen to make the playoffs. We made it in 07 with that line, minus Barnes (thank the Lord) plus Thomas

by Blair72 on Apr 20, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Dont Think...

We are ready to compete in the playoffs just yet though. 8-8 would be a successful mark to reach for.

Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.

by Bestjagfan on Apr 20, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The..

Noles won’t even show up to their own stadium on Saturday, no way they are filling JMS on Sunday. We have employed the most Gators of any team since our inception, and we still have blackouts. I would worry about the lines and then everything else.

I’ll be happy if we sign Holt, however don’t expect him to save us. I like Moreno or Well or any young running back to have behind Mojo.

by FanofJag on Apr 20, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

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