Bold Predictions: The Jaguars 2009 NFL Draft
by silencecs on Apr 23, 2009 3:20 PM EDT
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Time is running out, the draft boards are in their final stages of preparation, and before the week is through we'll know the make-up of our 2009 Jacksonville Jaguars. This will be Gene Smith's first draft as Supreme Ayatollah of the Jaguar Nation, and reports confirm he isn't taking this event lightly.
This should be encouraging to every Jag fan out there. We want to trade down and accumulate as much value as possible, and as many players as possible. The Jaguars sill need more mid-round picks, and trades will do that. Expect more than one opportunity for the Jags to move down to present itself. Gene sure has put in the effort to see this come to fruition.
The Jaguars will be able to grab value at the Number 8 slot regardless of Sanchez being there or not. I bet we can move out to a team that wants Raji before the Packers inevitably snag him, 8 is also the place to do that. If the Seahawks grab Sanchez, I expect Either Eugene Monroe, Andre Smith, or Aaron Curry to still be around. This is predicated on someone taking Jason Smith before us as well. I don't like the kid as far as run-blocking goes, but apparently some people are very high on him.
The Jaguars will have the opportunity to pass on Percy Harvin... TWICE. They will do so... Twice!
Recent medical concerns have surfaced about Harvin and his apparent previous operations. When combined with his drug test results, and purported attitude problems, I doubt he's taken until the middle of the 2nd round.
-Collin Streetman
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The Godfather Gene Smith
has a plan in place. Our team is gonna be looking a lot better after the next 3 days.
Wow! Gene is the man!!!
Gene has talked to EVERY TEAM about trades in EVERY ROUND. Impressive. We could not have a better guy in our front office.
I agree – so much for Harvin becoming a Jaguar – Gene will not draft any guys that don’t have high character. B.J. Raji & Andre Smith won’t happen either in my opinion, unless all the concerns about them are totally false, which I doubt. Yeah I know, I may have gone out on a limb with that one, but I’m putting it out there!
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
Big difference between Raji and A.Smith
Smith has been immature during the process and that can be straightened out. Raji ,on the other hand, is seemingly destined for multiple ESPN headlines for all the wrong reasons.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 23, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I know, Smith's character isn't necessarily bad
But I think his multiple bad decisions to go along with an apparent bad work ethic (and bad body) makes him a risk in Gene’s eyes.
Again it’s just a prediction, but I could be totally wrong b/c we don’t have all the info that Gene does.
For the record, I don’t think Raji is as bad as he’s been made out to be (same as Harvin) but I think Gene won’t take any risks b/c he can’t afford any misses in this draft.
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
Andre Smith's character
I think that his character issues have made him fall into consideration at the Jaguars spot. Had he not screwed up the bowl game, left the combine, and showed up fat at his pro day, he would easily be the number one pick.
At some point in the draft, the player’s potential will outweigh the character risks, and the Jaguars would be willing to try it. It think Andre Smith’s point is right around where the Jaguars pick.
Andre Smith
Has no “character risks”. He is a tad bit immature, and like John said that can be straightened out. No worry. No negative waves.
Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.
That is a fantastic point
Gene has been placed in a pretty tough predictament and there are a lot of eyes on him.
All really good points
You’re right, at some point potential does outweigh risk, and Smith should have been the #1 pick if not for all his issues.
If it was your $$$, would you draft an immature guy with the #8 pick and pay him #8 money? Gene will draft a leader on and off the field, MJD type of cat.
But you know, I hope I’m wrong, I love Percy’s skills, and Raji and Smith are both beasts, potentially the best at their positions. But it’s a deep draft, so I doubt it.
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
I would draft Andre Smith in a second
The guy might be immature, but he doesn’t have a bad work ethic, IMO. Same as what I was hearing about Vontae Davis. How can you be a shutdown corner and have a bad work ethic? How can Smith have a bad work ethic and be the most dominant at his position in the draft class?
I think Andre Smith just needs to have a little more self control with doing what he needs to do. He’s young. He’ll learn. He’s not smoking weed. He’s just not in shape as much as we’d like, and he had a bad agent.
Charlie Casserly...
on NFLN earlier this week talked about what are the main areas he looks at when drafting a player.
1. Character
2. Medical
3. Stuff
In that order I would think that immaturity would fall under stuff, which I believe is not the biggest risk. With the players that Gene and Jack are committed to bringing to this team, and the current high character guys on the team, I believe that selecting A. Smith would not be as big a risk as some would think. With Tra Thomas coming in, and all of the other guys who are currently on the OL, I believe the immaturity issue will be resolved. I can’t imagine that this locker room will let something like that go unchallenged.
My hope is that we gain value in trading back, but if we are unable to do so… I think he would be a great addition to the OL. If we go by what he has done on the field… then this man would be a great asset for years to come.
With Tra
Our offensive line is going to be good. If we could get Andre for the right side, that o-line would be elite. Thomas, Manawai, Meester, Pashos/Williams, and Smith; in that order from left side of line to right.
Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.
I would almost prefer
Williams over Pashos, but I’ve never seen Pashos play RG, so I have no means for comparison really. I just see Pashos committing too many penalties and allowing sacks at tackle, and it just makes me not like him. I’m biased against him at this point.
Same Here
I prefer Williams. It just seems everyone else has a man crush on Pashos, so I figured I had better throw his name in there. Pashos could be ok though, if he could just stop the penalties. His lack of pass blocking skills really hurts him.
Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.
Another great viewpoint - JagsCub, well played!
So I’ll fold my hand, throw in the towel, get down off my soapbox… for now…
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
Listen, I would draft Smith in a second, too!
And Raji. And especially Percy (not at #8 though!)
My point was that I think Gene will not take the risk at #8 if he has to make a selection. Everyone would call him a hypocrite after clearing house all off-season.
Hopefully we can trade back and it won’t even matter.
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
Peria Jerry.
A trade down and pickup of Peria Jerry would be awesome. I’ve got my fingers crossed for that.
A D-Line of Harvey/Groves, Jerry, Henderson, Heyward seems pretty nasty.
The Teal and Black are comin' back!
Taking Jerry would be great
Especially because he’s such an obvious player for the Colts.
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by River City Rage on Apr 23, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That Could Replace BAP
BAPTTCW. Best available player that the colts want. Haha
Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.
More like BAPTTCFW
Best available player that the Colts fans want. Nobody knows what the heck Bill Polian wants.
second round
if harvin is there, jags will take him. from encounters with him around gainesville, he seems like a good guy. weed, i don’t really care about. i don’t know where these stories about punching a coach come from, but i don’t think they hold much water.
the guy is a freak talent, and he would be insane as a slot receiver/third down back.
Did you see
Vic’s last value board? He said earlier this week this:
I plan for my final, all-important pre-draft value board to be posted on Thursday. To know who my selection for the Jaguars would be, pick the highest-ranked player available when the Jaguars pick.
.And look who has at 8:
http://www.jaguars.com/news/vicsvalueboard.aspx
This means he thinks if Sanchez is off board, that the jaguars can still trade down (with Denver to they get Raji, or.. NO, nonononono No!)?
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 23, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
This is kind of off subject
but does the draft on Saturday really not start until 4pm? I thought it was earlier in the past. It goes from like 4 to 9pm, and on NFL Network, 4-12am. Sunday it starts back up at 10am, but I thought it started earlier than that on Saturday’s. The preview starts at 11am on NFL Network on Saturday. I know that much. Looking forward to it nevertheless.
In the past it did...
But when they went with just the first 2 or 3 rounds only on the first day last year, I think they decided to push back the time this year because it didn’t take as long.
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Collin - Be Bolder
You know this space well. State a more bolder post. Go way out there!
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Everything
which creates good start to have a good talk is valuable. This post is no exeption.
(Of courseI know you joking Terry.)
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 23, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I was writing this as I ran out the door to dinner, that's why it isn't longer.
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I thought it was great!
I know you understand more than what you wrote here. Nice work. Hope you have time for a deep dive!
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Haha
The more debatable the post, the better. Allows for greater conversation.
Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.
Gene is the man?
Why hasn’t Gene been “the man” in prior drafts? Isn’t Gene and his staff responsible for the prior years list of losers that have been presented to pick from? What makes anyone think this loser list will be any different from prior year loser lists. Until Weaver gets some proven pros in that can evaluate talent (which he’ll have to pay for) it will be more of the same Byrons, Matts, Marcedes, Williams and 3rd round picks with broken hips.
The difference...
Is Gene has a proven record for scouting talent. If you google BLESTO, which Gene and the Jags are members of. You will find that Gene is in the BLESTO Hall of Fame as one of the best scouts they ever produced.
Furthermore, Shack had a consensus way of picking draft picks. Gene was not the one pulling the trigger. Had Gene been pulling the trigger I believe that we would not have had R. Williams, B. Leftwich, and M. Jones turn into busts for this team. I’m not saying that Saturday is a given, but I believe he will do a much better job. All his moves to this point has proven that. He says what he is going to do, and so far he has done what he has said.
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