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2009 NFL Draft: Open Thread/Live Blog , Part 2

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The 3rd round was 80% more dramatic for the Jaguars than we expected.  Derek Cox, the corner from William & Mary (or the Flat Hat Club, as I call them) was a stunning pickup that cost the Jaguars their 2nd round pick next year.  I get the impression that he's a stealth prospect that other teams were hoping would fall, but Jacksonville pulled the trigger early.

(H/T to Leon321 for finding these Cox videos)

At this link you can find a great video of an 89 yard punt return for a touchdown against Northeastern in 2008:

http://www.tribeathletics.com/files/fb/2008/video/nu/cox89pr.html

Here’s a video of Cox’s 45 yard interception return against N.C. State:

http://www.tribeathletics.com/files/fb/2008/video/ncst/coxtd.html

http://www.tribeathletics.com/files/fb/2008/video/nu/coxhit.html

Terrence Knighton is a more traditional run-stuffing defensive tackle.  Not much drama there.

What do you think of the draft so far?  Any other surprises?

-Chris

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can i just say

the amount of comments on these threads this weekend have done the jags proud

by Joeyy89 on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree… The First blog was at 300+… Great job Guys!

by floridafalcons#63 on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Killin' it

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

breakin for lunch see you guys later

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Wayne weaver should be pleased

People care about his team even after a bad year.

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chris, you made me laugh out loud

when you reverted back to the old statistics joke in a previous thread

by Blair72 on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kiper

Said we reached for Cox, I kind of agree.

by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anytime you take a DI-AA school talent in the first 3 rds its a reach

by floridafalcons#63 on Apr 26, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless

Other teams were about to take him. NFL Network is talking about Michael Mitchell right now. The Bears were just about to take him when the Raiders did. Everyone said the Raiders were crazy, but if a demand was there maybe they weren’t

by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In actuality

we drated Cox in the 2nd.

by Blair72 on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey it’s better then drafting a kicker in the 3rd like we did the other year I guess, or was that 4th when we drafted Podlesh?

by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The EA Sports playbook make me wonder if the animations for Madden have been updated since it was on the original Playstation

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by FSBlueApocalypse on Apr 26, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, Seattle Took WR Deon Butlet, scratch him off as well…

Atlanta REACHED for CB Owens

by floridafalcons#63 on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yahoo! Sports Analysis

Terrance Knighton

Analysis: The Jaguars got one of the more intriguing defensive tackles in the draft. Knighton is a tall, long-armed lineman who can be stout at the point of attack and does a nice job shedding blocks. A bit of a reach here, but he has the talent to become a starter.

Derek Cox

Analysis: The Jaguars aggressively moved up to get one of the most talented small school guys in the draft. Jacksonville needed to find a potential starter at corner and I think Cox has the skill set, but he may need some time to develop.

by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Andre Brown
Javon ringer
James Davis3
Rashan Jennings
Cedric Peerman (I LIKE)

by floridafalcons#63 on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mathis was a small school pick up

maybe gene notices the same potential in Cox

by mattarne on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well - he better be a starter and be at least as good as a 2nd rounder.

With a 2 – 3 year rebuild ahead of us, I’m just a little uncomfortable mortgaging next year’s draft.

by OGN on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No WR

we need a WR who can be a force, near Holt, Walker, Northcutt, and Williamson (if somehow he will remain with the team)

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Patriots

picked up 2 addtional 2nd rounders by trading back twice in the 3rd. Gotta love it.

by Blair72 on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THAT’S THE WAY TO DO IT!!! GENE, LEARN FROM THEM

by floridafalcons#63 on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IM OUT...

  Holla at yo boy! lol

by floridafalcons#63 on Apr 26, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cox Videos!!

At this link you can find a great video of an 89 yard punt return for a touchdown against Northeastern in 2008:

http://www.tribeathletics.com/files/fb/2008/video/nu/cox89pr.html

Here’s a video of Cox’s 45 yard interception return against N.C. State:

http://www.tribeathletics.com/files/fb/2008/video/ncst/coxtd.html

Amazing INT:

http://www.tribeathletics.com/files/fb/2008/video/nsu/coxint.html

Big HIt:

http://www.tribeathletics.com/files/fb/2008/video/nu/coxhit.html

by Leon321 on Apr 26, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice!!! THANKS!!!

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good stuff

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The price was

a7th this year and the second next year.
12 picks, and jaguars are on the clock, and I hope they pick the best BAWR!

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there goes iglesias

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Murphy or Dillard

BAWR, Gene please, we need some weapons. No more Unknown picks! At least for today!

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm liking these picks...

3 big guys and I got my CB. Hoping he is the small school pass by.

by Jaghomer on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Slowly we can see

who will pick in 30 minutes in the 4th
Candidates? Who are still in?

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How many more picks to go in the 3rd? I took a break and had lunch.

by ajagsbeliever on Apr 26, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Round 4 is underway.

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

starting 4th now

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 picks to go!

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dillard or Murphy?

I say murphy, guy is fast as shiot

by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Get a WR

Don’t really get much value in trading down in the 4th

by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's gotta be a WR

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Your candidate is also

Dilaard and Muphy or you have other names in the mix?

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dillard is my guess.

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he got the the silent weapons in the 1st and 2nd

now time for the ones that go “BOOM”

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it might be a reach

I understand what you guys are saying, but we’ll be sacrificing a lot of value by going for WR right now in my opinion. The middle tier guys all just went in a row. The Jaguars really should try to trade down to get one of these guys. Right now my board looks like this:
1. Victor Harris
2. Duke Robinson
3. D.J. Moore
4. Mike Mickens
5. Rashad Jennings

by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone else noticing that Jaguars.com is quiet today?

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Vic is still try to find out who Cox is(hahaha)

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Murphy, gotta grab him now

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has Shawn Nelson been drafted?

The tight end out of S. Miss?

Jacksonville Jaguars. It's what I do.

by JvilleJag2 on Apr 26, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dont think so

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rams get a 300+lb beast @ dt

so wrs are still there

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Moore and harris still in?

Now al of sudden that 2nd looks way too high I must say

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Think

There are 5 that are draft eligible

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he feels he got 2nd round talent in the 3rd

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cincy goin' WR?

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jags Are Up Next

Lets hope for a great pic boys!

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gene Smith on Cox
"We did a lot of work on this guy," Smith said of William and Mary cornerback Derek Cox, who the Jaguars made an aggressive move to trade into position to draft. "The last guy I evaluated out of there is Darren Sharper."

If Cox turns out to be the player Sharper was, Smith will be praised for the trade. Until then, however, there will be questions. Smith said he expected them.

"I knew I would have more questions. That’s fair," Smith said to a media that grilled him on the Cox pick.

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Vic is on the double

http://www.jaguars.com/news/article.aspx?id=7809
About Knighton.
Is he looking like Big Rich Collier a little bit?

by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i want

DJ Moore

cos he is quite good imho

by Joeyy89 on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me

or does NFLN go to a commercial every time we are about to pick?

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they took a center

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Thomas

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Thomas, Wide Receiver, Arizona

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thomas

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

more speed

Everybody knows when he's coming to town
They're locking the doors
And they don't make a sound
People want him dead but he won't die yet
First he's got to live
With all the things that he did

by thatdamnLovett on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Thomas/WR/Arizona

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by FSBlueApocalypse on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Thomas Combine

Combine Results:
40 Yard Dash : 4.4 seconds
Vertical Jump : 40.5 inches
Broad Jump : 126.0 inches
3 Cone Drill : 6.65 seconds
20 Yard Shuttle : 4.28 seconds

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

More:

Regarded as the school’s best all-purpose threat, Thomas closed out his career setting the school and Pac-10 Conference all-time record with 259 receptions. His 3,231 receiving yards placed eighth in league annals and third on the Arizona record charts, as his 23 touchdown grabs tied for third in Wildcats history. He amassed 4,891 yards, the fourth-best career total at Arizona.

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

Sounds pretty good to me

by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How Tall

Is he?

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Height/Weight

Height: 5’8"
Weight: 195

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great, another slot receiver

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've had a ton of Basketball players at WR

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly, MJD was our best receiving threat last year

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by FSBlueApocalypse on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dont ever judge small guys....ala MJD

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by kterr on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thumbs up for Thomas!

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Thomas vid

http://draftguys.com/index.php/articles/dgtv_1/mike_thomas_video/

I wish we could grab Shawn Nelson too – I’m amazed he’s fallen this far.

by alsonot on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why cant people

just accept the jaguars picks, and that they may know more about football than us.

maybe, just maybe that this mike thomas is better than dilliard or murphy

by Joeyy89 on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You can’t tell me Gene is using the BAP now, the last 3 picks have all been need picks, actually the whole draft has been.

by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

We are drafting like the Falcons.

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Hope

That wasn’t the deciding factor between Thomas and Murphy.

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weird too, cuz I live an hour from Tucson and go through there all of the time

and my Jags drafted them. Where’s SoCal, maybe he knows more about this guy.

by Blair72 on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha sorry

I had to go break the news over on AzDesertSwarm.com.

I really like him. I had him ranked between Dillard and Collie. He’s just a do it all guy who only fell for his height. I’m pretty stoked about this pick for sure.

by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

20 bucks says we go QB next round

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by kterr on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Rhett

Bomar still on the board?

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mike thomas

has got me excited.

i bet he generates so much seperation, his speed changing abilities looked awesome

by Joeyy89 on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nate Davis in the 5th

Anyone?

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why

Not being offensive, just wondering.

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bomar is bigger and stronger

He can stand tall in the pocket and make all the throws.
Nate Davis is a little shorter and holds the ball weird.

by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bomar is a boneheaded decision away from having been the starter at Oklahoma the last few years

He has all the tools, but he’s been in football no man’s land @ Sam Houston State

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by FSBlueApocalypse on Apr 26, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm

i dont like nate davis,

maybe 7th but we traded that :/

by Joeyy89 on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mine are the same as before

1. Victor Harris
2. Duke Robinson
3. D.J. Moore
4. Mike Mickens
5. Rashad Jennings

by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It

Would be sweet if Macho fell to the fifth.

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like no one wants DJ Moore

Maybe Cox wasn’t a bad idea after all

by MoveThoseChains on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brain Hartline Is Gone

Damn, I wanted him in the 6th.

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Question for the trivia people

When was the last time a guy who played his college ball in CANADA was drafted?

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by FSBlueApocalypse on Apr 26, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

William "The Fridge" Perry

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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

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by FSBlueApocalypse on Apr 26, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There Goes Chip Vaughn

So much for him in the fifth.

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There's still plenty of good CBs

Along with Dillard, Collie, Murphy, Ogletree and Cosby at receiver. The 5th could definitely be a stud

by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chip Vaughn

Is an in the box safety, who could make the run d impenetrable.

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andre Brown

From NC State is still there. He could be good in the pros.

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