2009 NFL Draft: 6th/7th Round Open Thread
by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 4:25 PM EDT
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This is it, final round and a half for the Jaguars. Not much for them to do other than wait for their 7th round picks.
I'm cooking dinner and starting to compose Monday's draft analysis, so pardon my slow response time.
-Chris
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Two picks left, no chance of trading.
This is the slow part.
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by River City Rage on Apr 26, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Miller's measurables are great
I’ll take a 4.5 TE any day. Let’s hope he’s a shadow of Jay Novachek
by Blair72 on Apr 26, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ive been stuck entertaining the in laws
by mattarne on Apr 26, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry to hear that
the draft has been great so far. Do you know the picks or are you more concerned with value and drama?
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the picks,
i guess i could just read the 1000 posts…
by mattarne on Apr 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st round..LT Eugene Monroe
2nd round..LT Eben Britton (both steals so far, britton will play RT or RG and wants to punish the teams who skipped him in the 1st)
3rd round…DT Terrance Knighton
3rd round…CB Derek Cox( trade with pats, we lost this 7 and next years 2, but they feel this guy will start)
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4th round..WR Mike Thomas (short and very very quick)
5th round…WR Jarret Dillard (60 td’s in 4 years..ncaa record)
6th round..TE Zach Miller (runs a 4.53 40 and is also an option QB)
anything else?
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems as though weve drafted all key spots and a lux with miller
by mattarne on Apr 26, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like we were very lucky...
to have a 4.53 TE prospect fall to us in the 6th – I suppose we couldn’t afford to reach with all our other needs.
by alsonot on Apr 26, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At First
I didn’t like the pick. But after seeing that highlight vid this guy looks insane.
Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.
by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
his competition was not nearly as quick as he was
just know that. take it either way
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Know
But the same goes for Derek Cox.
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zack Miller
Pick Analysis: Miller was a quarterback and transitioned into a tight end. He ran unbelievably fast at his pro day. He’s another developmental project, but guys who can run that fast are worth the pick. He’s big, fast and athletic.
by Jermaside4 on Apr 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who do we go to in the 7th? Saftey?
by ajagsbeliever on Apr 26, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BAP
In the 7th you just want a guy that’ll make the team
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we will have a great draft if we can get a good safety in Rd 7
by ajagsbeliever on Apr 26, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pegues of Miss State hit very well at the Senior Bowl
he was much improved with the jags staff. States coaching has not been the best
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What QBs are left?
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hoyer, Cantwell, Harper, Reilly and Harrell
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many hrs now
until the end of the draft?
by Joeyy89 on Apr 26, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's the over/under on Singletary saying something stupid?
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm stoked about Miller
The guy has unbelievable raw talent. He’s big, fast, and powerful. At round 6, I forsee this guy being a steal
by Blair72 on Apr 26, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hoyer in the 7th would be a good way to end the draft.
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wonder who else is left that would make us excited that is an unknown to us
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
miller did look like a player. he'll make the team
Gene smith just announced Mike Thomas will be our number one next year and is already so ballin’ that he’s gonna mentor Torry Holt.
by harveyismyboy on Apr 26, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously About 1
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Just making sure. Never now with the Jags. Haha
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*Know
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When does UDFA start? when can we start picking up the left overs?
by Jermaside4 on Apr 26, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Patriots Just drafted a long snapper... Haha
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not going to laugh
They probably just found the best long snapper in the history of the NFL. It’s the Patriots.
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Good point.
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe he
is a long snaper, who could catch a slot pass, or can be a tackle machine
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man...
Its a long time till the Jags pick again. Isn’t it like 250 something
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I Forgot
He was on the board. He has starting potential actually.
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Peyton goes down
I wont be scared to see Painter
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True Dat
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forget
Sorgi. He is the second in line
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Don't See How
Sorgi has kept the role as the backup there. Maybe its just that Manning never gets hurt and Sorgi has never been exposed to real season action. We could decimate the Colts if that little girly mouth Sorgi was under center.
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
night guys
its been fun enjoying the draft with you.
i look forward to watching the development of the guys we drafted together
by Joeyy89 on Apr 26, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What Time
Is it in England?
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Jacksonville in the eastern time zone? I live in Canada it 17:20 now
by Jermaside4 on Apr 26, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Apr 26, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Del Rio is on #8
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Apr 26, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on ESPN*
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."-Bill Hicks
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Xbox Live Gamertag: FSBlueApocalypse
by FSBlueApocalypse on Apr 26, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jack looks like he hasn't slept in days
Good
by TheHammerOfSpicer on Apr 26, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I Agree
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How
Gene could look alike???
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I either these days
haha
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might loke like me...( I watch myself in a mirror 3 minutes ago, when I was at the bathroom)
I didn’t sleep much in the last 48 hours as well.
of course i didn’t do any important thing like the front office
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but youre a true fan and you know it
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally
jaguars.com let it know, that we have a new player in Miller
His position is Tight End-so the jaguars will use him like that.
I wanna know about this interesting player/project
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really think everyone should forget about the QB thing altogether
It’s the same situation as Matt Jones. He’s not a QB so don’t even mention him playing it. Zach Miller is a TE and if he makes the squad it’ll be as a TE.
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so
Maybe if we do a Wildcat in ’09, then…
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope we don't
I like the running game. We have a ridiculous offensive line now. Why would we use a gimmick?
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this has truly been a solid draft
where is terry at?
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Todd McShay echos my opinion
A+ for first two picks….not pumped about 3rd rounders but absolutely love the recievers we picked up late
"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor
by kterr on Apr 26, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if Cox
is that good, like the jags belive, he and everyone will changed the way think now aboue pick
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wonder if they thought it was too high for durant and mathis because they were d2
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pats got myron pryor DT
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who is jason boltus?
NFLN is raving about this d3 guy
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he is a qb
could be one of our comps.
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really want QB Hoyer....he could compete for the back-up spot
"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor
by kterr on Apr 26, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rashad Jennings
Is still on board
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
isn't he a troublemaker?
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright Guys
Gotta take the girlfriend to dinner. It’s been great talking to you guys about the draft.
Peace Out
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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked it the old way
1 trough 3 day 0ne and the rest day 2
by mazatt on Apr 26, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Finally Vic's take about Miller
looks like Tice likes him a lot. And he describe himself as a poor men’s Tim Tebow:
The Jaguars’ sixth-round pick describes himself as a "poor man’s Tim Tebow." He’s Zach Miller, a 6-4, 235-pound small-college quarterback who’ll be making a position switch to tight end.
"I’m a tight end now," Miller said when asked what position he plays. His college bio from the University of Nebraska at Omaha, a Division II school to which Miller transferred after walking on at Nebraska (the big one), makes no mention of Miller having caught a pass.
Miller threw for 1,508 yards and 11 touchdowns and rushed for 1,061 yards and 18 touchdowns as UNO’s quarterback last season, but he played tight end in only one game, the Cactus Bowl, a Division II all-star game.
"That’s the only time I ever played tight end in my life," Miller said.
Jaguars Assistant Head Coach Mike Tice worked Miller out at UNO’s pro day and Miller said he felt a connection between the two. Apparently the connection was strong enough for the Jaguars to draft Miller and attempt a rare switch from quarterback to tight end.
Quarterback to wide receiver is common. Matt Jones, of course, made that move with the Jaguars following his first-round selection in 2005. Quarterback to tight end? Well, Jim Jensen comes to mind. Tight end was just one of several positions Jensen played with the Dolphins from 1981-92.
Miller was lightly recruited coming out of high school in Nebraska. His junior year was wiped out by a broken collar bone and he didn’t hit a growth spurt until he was a senior. He walked on at Nebraska as a quarterback but transferred to UNO when Bill Callahan was hired to coach the Cornhuskers and it became apparent Miller was not in the new coach’s plans.
The Jaguars are including Miller in their plans. He’ll be a project but he’s a big guy who runs the 40 in the 4.47-4.54 range, his college rushing yardage clearly proves he has run-after-the-catch ability, and he promises that "one thing that’s not going to be lacking from me is effort."
Miller is just another pick in what is clearly a good-guy Jaguars draft; strength of character is a priority.
"I’m the poor man’s Tim Tebow. I’ll take that," Miller said. "I think I can play in the league. The best football players step onto the field every weekend and to step onto the field with them is a great honor."
Jaguars wanna take a guy, just to say, we have him, we not need Tebow next year????
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
since we are small market
we do not need the rich mans tebow, tell florida to just “shh” about drafting him.
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know
There’s about as many people from outside Florida on this site as there are in Florida.
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember you saying that
I just think it’s interesting. Especially because everyone assumes that the only people who watch the Jaguars live in Jacksonville.
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what was that about no fans anywhere?
we are on the rise with this new offense, and hopefully the defense just got fixed with the emergence of Harvey and Groves and Knighton stuffing the run while subbing with meier.
Cox, well I hope he can guard like mathis
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If so
it is almost a full house draft. the offense almost ready to go, we have add O-line depth 2 Wr+ Holt, a new talented TE in Miller. I’m optimistic.
David can show what he can REALLY do this year
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the offense
I just hope they can stay on the field for a long time and keep our defense off. That group scares me a little.
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are next year's project
I think, but I have hope there as well. We will see
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am actually excited about next year
i feel like we had a top draft class, but wait theres more….
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
I would’ve won $20 if Fui Vakapuna was Mr. Irrelevant. I was 40 picks off.
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thats a difficult pick
well, the coolest name has been drafted:
Captain Munnerlyn
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well gene wanted captains...
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heres where we see what we couldve taken
by Jermaside4 on Apr 26, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this was for a trade up last year correct?
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we should take....
vince oghoaase DT Duke
by harveyismyboy on Apr 26, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
I totally forgot about that guy. If they want to go DT Ricky Jean-Francois from LSU is still available.
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have heard about "that DT from duke"
what do you know?
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i watched lsu
Jean-Francois was MVP of the nat’l championship……
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Rashad Jennings still available?
Or is he not?
by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know he has a knee problem he's still reocvering from but...
… I think he’s a nice pick this late in the draft. Hopefully the ’boys give him a chance to let it heal.
by alsonot on Apr 26, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah!
i was watching aq shipley, c
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
22 more picks....dun dun dun
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just 19
and counting back- Noe the best draft team in the leahue is on the clock.(NE)
Wh othey select? A kicker who can sack the QB?
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lebron James
He’s a terrific field goal blocker
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They picked a WR
He’ll go to the probowl. that is sure
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two to go
How about Robby Felix or Alex Fletcher and Otis Wiley to finish out the Jags picks.
by viator on Apr 26, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Wiley
But I don’t know much about Felix and Fletcher
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im still thinking derek pegues
maybe Greg Carr is he there? but it would make 7 wr’s
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6'6' 215 LB Greg Carr, wr fsu is avialable for what its worth
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carr is tall
Could work. May go undrafted.
by viator on Apr 26, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The thing the Jaguars need to do now
is pick the guys targeted by the few teams left behind them in the draft. The rest will go to UDFA and Gene will have to convince them to come to camp.
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UFA
Maybe bring in John Parker Wilson, Phil Trautwien, Greg Carr, and Marlon Favorite. Amongst others…
by viator on Apr 26, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just saw
some combine vids at jaguars.com from our new guys. looks like a strong group, specially that 2 WR!
Oh, in other news in Seattle Curry is in- Leroy Hill is out:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/draft-2009/04/26/seahawks.hill.ap/index.html
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
j'nathan bullock
basketball player convert to TE/OLB, half league was at pro day
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I remember hearing the story
It’s definitely interesting, but I guess the teams that were there weren’t overly impressed or he’d be gone
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until we pick:
Monroe: http://www.jaguars.com/multimedia/?id=3177
Britton: http://www.jaguars.com/multimedia/?id=3176
Knighton: http://www.jaguars.com/multimedia/?id=3179
Thomas: http://www.jaguars.com/multimedia/?id=3178
Dillard: http://www.jaguars.com/multimedia/?id=3180
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My Top 10
1. Rashad Jennings – RB – Liberty
2. Darry Beckwith – LB – LSU
3. Derek Pegues – S – Mississippi State
4. Ricky Jean-Francois – DT – LSU
5. Gerald Cadogan – OT – Penn State
6. Frantz Joseph – LB – Florida Atlantic
7. Trevor Canfield – G – Cincinnati
8. Jonathon Casillas – LB – Wisconsin
9. Kevin Ogletree – WR – Virginia
10. Ryan Purvis – TE – Boston College
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
beckwith should be gone
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you say Beckwith should be gone
Do you mean he was drafted and I missed it
Or he should’ve been drafted by now?
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mitch King
is STILL IN! I think he is the guy for 1 pic.
C j Spillman is the other candidate of mine
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If other teams don't want Mitch King don't draft him
Just get him in UDFA
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they like him enough that they wont want to risk it
by Jermaside4 on Apr 26, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think too
It is a 7th rounder, so they not lose much with the pick
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Specially
if the guy is good!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it is time for a list from me
CJ Spillman
Mitch King
Jonathon Casillas
Derek Pegues
Rashad Jennings (but only if he is not character concern)
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
something is wrong with rashad, RB’s drafter before him i’ve never even heard of.
by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bengals next, then the jaguars
I think it will be King!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it isn't
Just hope he doesn’t get drafted and I bet he’s all ours
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Nate Ness from Arizona
I’ve been in love with the guy since Collin did a scouting report and interview with him. He is going to be a great player in the NFL for someone, and I hope that someone is the Jaguars.
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 26, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He can be the other pick
But I think he will be end up in UFA
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nate ness
i will vote for collin here
GET NESS, youre welcome colling
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Get Ness, Laybourn, Cosby and King in UDFA
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to have to bid against someone else
I want Ness guaranteed
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 26, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every guy is playing
Now see Gene will bring King?
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good choice
But i hope the other 7 is Ness
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 26, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks - I still think Greg Jones wants to carry the ball a bit this year...
… plus we can always try wacky 3 back sets… in some senses he may be keeping Zach Miller honest (or perhapse the other way around).
by alsonot on Apr 26, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chauncey is never going to be anything better than a backup
If he’s your backup you’re probably not very good either.
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1581
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys
They waited until after the Jaguars pick to go to commercial. What?
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it truly is a new day
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let them battle it out, it'll be fun
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2009/2/17/762461/scouting-report-rashad-jen
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i guess im wrong but i thought he was very troublesom
i remember nfln reporting that a halfback had been to multiple schools and had gotten in trouble everywhere, otherwise he wouldve been good.
was it sheets? i can’t remember.
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He switched from Pitt to Liberty
But I don’t think it was because of character problems.
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now last jaguar pick
King, a safety(Spillman, Ness), or other?
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This draft is a MAJOR
OFFENSIVE UPGRADE
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
from nfl.com:
Jennings decided to transfer to Liberty for the 2006 season. Because his father was battling diabetes and he didn’t want the burden of caring for him to fall squarely with the rest of his family, he decided to be closer to his home in Virginia. One day, his brother, Butch, opened the door to his home. Standing there soaking wet from sweat was his younger brother. Rashad had run and walked 18 miles from his mother’s home in Forest to his brother’s home in Lynchburg.
by darkseraph18 on Apr 26, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like character positives not negatives
by SoCalStites on Apr 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes me feel better, im not going to cover it up
Surreal to be Teal
by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gene
So far SOOOOOO GOOOD!
He is truly a draft master!
Jaguars on the clock-.-I say mitch King or a safety!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nfl pedigree too
two brothers that played in the nfl
by darkseraph18 on Apr 26, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rashad
Some highlights, crappy quality though
by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tiquan underwood, wr rutgers
i don’t know him
Surreal to be Teal
by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Combine Results:
40 Yard Dash : 4.41 seconds
Bench Press : 7.0 reps
Vertical Jump : 41.5 inches
Broad Jump : 129.0 inches
3 Cone Drill : 6.62 seconds
20 Yard Shuttle : 4.11 seconds
by darkseraph18 on Apr 26, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is he better than Carr?
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by Surteal on Apr 26, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Underwood is an unheralded athlete who had to take a back seat to the team’s emphasis for a strong running game earlier in his career. But given an opportunity as a junior, he went on to etch his name into the school record books. The cat-quick moves, long wing-span, outstanding leaping ability and sure hands allowed the talented receiver to become just the second player in school history to gain more than 1,000 yards receiving in a season, joining Tres Moses (1,056 yards in 2004).
His stellar performances on the field forced the opposition to place constant double coverage on him the second part of 2007. That allowed fellow receiver Kenny Britt to match Underwood’s exploits, as he tallied 1,232 yards receiving last season. They became just the 26th tandem in NCAA history and the first in Big East Conference annals to gain more than 1,000 yards receiving in the same season.
At Notre Dame High School, Underwood earned All-County honors as a sophomore wide receiver and was again recognized as an All-County quarterback during his junior campaign. He returned to the receiving unit as a senior, catching 17 passes for more than 400 yards with five touchdowns in the team’s first two games before an injury in the third contest would sideline him for the rest of 2004.
In 2003, Underwood completed 70 of 103 passes for 1,144 yards and 16 touchdowns, as he also rushed for two touchdowns and caught 10 passes for 212 yards with five scores. During his sophomore campaign, he made 35 catches for 606 yards and 10 touchdowns.
Underwood was the starting point guard on the school’s basketball team as a sophomore and junior, leading the team in scoring in 2003-2004. He also competed in hurdles and triple jump for outdoor track team, where he set the state record for sophomores and juniors in the triple jump.
During his first season at Rutgers, Underwood was a jack of all-trades. He saw action at both receiving positions, in addition to lining up as a quarterback to take direct snaps in shotgun formation. He only threw the ball once, resulting in an interception, but gained 63 yards on the ground, as five of 16 carries resulted in first downs. He snatched four passes for 47 yards and fielded two punts for no gain, fumbling one in the Insight Bowl. He led the Big East Conference and ranked 19th in the nation, averaging 27.1 yards on 11 kickoff returns for 298 yards in 2004.
Underwood changed from jersey No. 10 that he wore as a freshman to jersey No. 7 for his 2005 campaign. He took over flanker duties in the team’s fifth game when Shawn Tucker suffered a season-ending ankle injury. He finished fourth on the team with 23 receptions for 290 yards (12.6 avg), leading the Scarlet Knights with four touchdowns. A broken bone in his right foot in the regular-season finale would sideline him for the Insight Bowl.
Eighteen of his catches produced first downs, converting five third-down plays in the process. In addition to his four touchdowns, he had key catches that set up five other touchdown drives and three series that ended with field goals. He also returned one kickoff for 11 yards and recorded three tackles (2 solos), including one for a 2-yard loss.
As a junior, Underwood earned All-American third-team accolades and was a consensus All-Big East Conference choice. He led the team with 65 receptions, the third-best season total in school history, as his 1,100 yards rank second on the Rutgers’ annual record chart. He had seven touchdown grabs, along with 55 first downs, converting 20 third-down catches. Forty-two of his grabs were for 10 yards or longer, including 18 for at least 20 yards. He had key catches to set up 13 other touchdowns for the Scarlet Knights and nine others that led to team field goals. He also registered seven touchdown-resulting blocks.
Underwood entered the 2008 season as one of the premier pass catchers in college football. A member of the AFCA “Good Works” team for his outstanding work in the community, he was also named to the Maxwell Award Watch List. He garnered All-American second-team preseason recognition, in addition to being a unanimous All-Big East preseason pick. He ranked second on the team with 40 receptions for 494 yards (12.4 avg) and five touchdowns in 13 games. He also gained 337 yards on 18 kickoff returns (18.7 avg) and assisted on two tackles, in addition to returning a blocked punt 70 yards.
High School
Attended Notre Dame (Lawrenceville, N.J.) High School, earning All-County honors as a sophomore wide receiver and was again recognized as an All-County quarterback during his junior campaign…Returned to the receiving unit as a senior, catching 17 passes for more than 400 yards with five touchdowns in the team’s first two games before an injury in the third contest would sideline him for the rest of 2004…In 2003, Underwood completed 70 of 103 passes for 1,144 yards and 16 touchdowns, as he also rushed for two touchdowns and caught 10 passes for 212 yards, with five scores…During his sophomore campaign, he made 35 catches for 606 yards and 10 touchdowns…Was the starting point guard on the school’s basketball team as a sophomore and junior, leading the team in scoring in 2003-2004…Also competed in hurdles and triple jump for outdoor track team, where he set the state record for sophomores and juniors in the triple jump.
by Pickle on Apr 26, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
very skinny WR
I’m surprised we didn’t go with at least one big prospect.
by alsonot on Apr 26, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well done, Gene Smith
Well done.
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 26, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NFL.com analysis of Tiquan
Analysis
Positives: Good height for the position. Has enough straight-line speed to make plays deep down the seam. Uses his long arms to block defensive backs in space for a short time. Reliable hands and able to make a move after the catch. Good vision as a runner. Has experience returning kickoffs, should get a chance there. Special teams gunner who works hard to keep punts out of the end zone.
Negatives: Very wiry build. Long strider who lacks suddenness. Does not get off the line very quickly and lacks the strength to get off a jam outside. Likely best as a number three or four receiver out of the slot. Better when facing the quarterback than trying to track the ball over his shoulder. Hustles to get to his target in the run game, but can gets destroyed due to his lack of upper body strength. Seems reluctant to go over the middle, looks to get hit before the ball gets there although he usually makes the catch.
by alsonot on Apr 26, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Walterfootball about the jaguars picks
2009 NFL Draft Picks:
8. Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
I will never bash a team for taking an elite left tackle in the NFL Draft. I don’t know what the Jaguars plan on doing with William Tra Thomas, but when they brought him in, I don’t think they anticipated Eugene Monroe being available. (Pick Grade: A)
39. Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
I guess the Jaguars didn’t get the memo that you can only start two offensive tackles; not four. What is Jacksonville going to do with Eugene Monroe, William Tra Thomas, Tony Pashos and Eben Britton? Perhaps some new formation like the Wildcat, only you use all offensive linemen? (Pick Grade: D)
72. Terrance Knighton, DT, Temple
The Jaguars really needed some help at defensive tackle to replace Marcus Stroud. Can Terrance Knighton be that guy? We’ll find out, but I like how Jacksonville is addressing both sides of the line of scrimmage. (Pick Grade: B)
73. Derek Cox, CB, William & Mary
So much for taking the best player available. Derek Cox is horrendous value in the third round. He fills a need though, so this isn’t a complete fail. (Pick Grade: F)
107. Mike Thomas, WR/KR, Arizona
Jacksonville had to find a receiver relatively early in the 2009 NFL Draft. Mike Thomas also provides added value as a return specialist. (Pick Grade: A)
144. Jarett Dillard, WR, Rice
Gene Smith really loves going back-to-back at the same position. He’s getting really good value here with Jarett Dillard though. (Pick Grade: A)
180. Zach Miller, TE, Nebraska-Omaha
Great… A second tight end named Zach Miller to confuse us all in our fantasy football leagues. Miller’s in this draft range, so this seems like a solid choice. (Pick Grade: B)
250. Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty
Wow… Rashad Jennings could have been drafted in the second round. Even if Jennings doesn’t pan out, this is a great pick in terms of value. Jennings could be a very solid complement to Maurice Jones-Drew. (Pick Grade: A)
253. Tiquan Underwood, WR, Rutgers
Solid draft value here. This is Jacksonville’s third receiver, which isn’t surprising, given the problems they had at the position. (Pick Grade: B)
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the criticism on taking Britton
Tackle is a position you can never have too much of a good thing
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Apr 26, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
And what’s wrong with moving one of them temporarily to guard?
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 26, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we also have to think about how our locker room respond...
I get the criticism, it’s justified in the sense that others may not see him as the BPA; but it was clear from the video’s the Jags had made up their mind on his relative position on their board.
by alsonot on Apr 26, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
he didn’t know, that Britton might will be this team’s RT for the next decade,, and don’t know about our plans. You should look what grade he gave to the AFC West teams:
Here you can see for every team the grades:
http://walterfootball.com/offseason.php
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea obviously who ever wrote that doesn’t realize what happens we you have no depth on the o-line. We found out last year. Plus brittons not playing LT he is competing for RT.
by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping to add an Anquan but...
I guess a Tiquan will do.
by Jaggernaut on Apr 26, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zoltan
you have made this the easiest draft to follow. Thank you for all of you insite.
by bigmousecountry on Apr 26, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Cox will work out. You never know. Wait to they get to minicamps and OTA's!
by ajagsbeliever on Apr 26, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is the risk
because of the second round to the Pats, but if he will be a starting Quality CB, and the others work out as ell, we have a veeeery good draft. What a start of the rebuilding!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm happy with it
We could of drafted Rashad Jennings there and no one would question it, but we got him in the 7th. It all worked out great I think.
by cliff1982 on Apr 26, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When are we allowed to sign undrafted free agents?
by Jaggernaut on Apr 26, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK folks
It is time to give some rest to my eyes! I hope when I wake up, and open it I will see a lot of good UFAs too.
It was a GREAT PLEASURE to follow this 2 days with ALL OF YOU!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 26, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Character & Chemistry
Folks, this is a completely new football team, replete with players of character. Look at who we got rid of (Jones, Williams, Barnes, Porter, Florence, etc.) … look at the free agents we signed (Thomas, Considine, Holt) … and look at the guys we’ve picked the past two days: smart guys, character guys, hard workers, team captains. This has all morphed into a watershed moment for this franchise. You can take issue with a pick here and there (I certainly question giving up next year’s 2), but you cannot question the positive direction of this team and its chemistry. Congratulations to everyone responsible for making it happen.
by ruffdaddy on Apr 26, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who are some of your UFA's that are still available?
by jagsfanbrunell on Apr 26, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
here's two
Spillman, C.J. – a do everything safety, but didn’t really stand out, fast enough for the NFL
Emanuel Cook – big hitting but slow and small saftey with stone hands, junior I think
by alsonot on Apr 26, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of the QB's left
I don’t see much available, but I think Jason Boltus is worth bringing in. His good numbers don’t count for much because he played at a division III school (Hartwick).
He’s big enough (6’3), smart enough (pre-med student). He throws hard, but has too long a windup and can’t throw the check-down passes with any touch (familiar?).
He doesn’t show great agility or footwork but I think hes’ got some of tools to get better, seems a little fast despite a 4.8 combine number; he’s ran a 4.74 and claims he can do better.
http://www.wbng.com/sports/34721904.html?video=YHI&t=a
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f2e201
by alsonot on Apr 26, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
more Boltus stuff
http://www.realfootball365.com/articles/nfl/13676
“That 40 time was better than all but four other quarterbacks, one of whom was Pat White. His 26 bench reps? Better than all but two tight ends, a half-dozen linebackers and every cornerback — you know, guys who play a position where being able to move around a lot of dead weight actually means something.
By the way, for some extra added insanity, in addition to putting up better stats on paper, most of Boltus’ combine numbers were better than Stafford’s — with their 40 times only .02 seconds apart."
by alsonot on Apr 26, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geesh Gene wasn't playing when he said he'd address WR and OT
We got arguably the two of best OTs in the draft and WRs with speed to burn. Other than Dilliard…every WR drafted runs a 4.4 or better.
by Slvrgun on Apr 26, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but dillard has a great vertical and above average hands
it will be interesting to see how many wr’s they keep. with woods and that other guy
Surreal to be Teal
by Surteal on Apr 27, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7:47 "Mr. Irrelevant" pick to Chiefs: Ryan Succop, PK
Watch him become the next Adam Vinatieri
AC/DC + Tampa Bay Rays = Big Balls on a Budget
by Orlando Rays on Apr 26, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a punter is great value there
Surreal to be Teal
by Surteal on Apr 27, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta get them early
Before they’re all gone after the 4th round.
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 27, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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