Parting Thoughts
I put the axe to the grind starting 11am EST again tomorrow. I enjoyed this draft weekend tremendously and it reminded me why I became a part of BCC's staff in the first place. I expect to return in full swing shortly after Memorial Day. I just wanted to wrap up my thoughts on the first leg of the 2009 season and ask ya'll for some input.
1. Can anyone pleae tell me why Derek Cox was playing at William and Mary and not a major BCS team? A 6'1 corner who ran a 4.37 40 and could beat Superman in a leaping tall buildings contest should have attracted interest from someone.
2. My projected offensive line opening day
LT:Monroe
LG:Manuwai
C:Meester
RG:Pashos
RT:Britton
We'll find out very fast if Mr.Monroe was worth #8 money if his first career start is against Dwight Freeney.
3. I guarantee Gene Smith has Monroe in camp.
Now, onto reader feedback. I have had a few ideas bouncing around in my head for this upcoming season. I'll attach a poll and comments are always appreciated.
1. I want to start up a weekly College football article that will be posted on Saturday morning. It would be my thoughts on various game, players, storylines, etc.
2. An idea I've been toying around with since late last season is doing a video game preview. I never got them to the quality I wanted them, however, if there is interest I'll start on getting things in place.
-John
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i would love a college page
i will contribute for ms state at www.forwhomthecowbelltolls.com. I have a few writings up there including a follow-up to the spring game if youre interested.
But i don’t watch as much college as i should and all of us could always be better informed. Maybe we could assign certain people to certain teams or conferences and o write-ups every saturday. just a thought.
Surreal to be Teal
Is it just me...
…or do we have a lot of tackles. We only have a few guards, and everyone else is a tackle playing inside.
Just Curious
Do you think that this could be the last season that you see pashos playing for the Jags
by jesusjagfan2009 on Apr 28, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions
If he can play
Guard, and He is Ok with it, then no.
Otherwise yes!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 28, 2009 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
What's up with Mo Williams....
I have not seen him in a single “projected OL”…….
I know we are all hyped about our new draft picks, but man…. I mean, we can not just get him out of the picture like that……. He is way better than Tony Pashos, and I don’t think Britton is better suited than Mo right now…………..
Still, I would prefer Pashos at RT and Williams at G………
And then you have Uche, who really did a lot of improvement during last year…… I’m sure he’ll compete for that starting RG position……….
I’m happy cause we really have depth in all but the Center position, but I would prefer to play first with our veterans rather to plug in directly some rookies…………..
Even with Monroe, i would put Tra as the started heading into minicamp and preseason, and see what kind of competition develops with him and Monroe……..
It can’t hurt to have monroe as a sub for a year………..
I would think more like this…
LT: Tra
LG: Vince
C: Meester
RG: Mo/Uche
RT: Pashos
O-line 2009 by me
LT: Tra Thomas(maybe later during the season switch to Monroe)
LG: Manuwai
C: Meester
RG: Mo Williams/Pashos(?)
Rt: Pashos or Monroe/Britton (later the season)
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 28, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions
My line is…
LT= Thomas
LG= Manuwai
C= Meester
RG= Williams/Pashos
RT= Monroe
Monroe has played some RT before, I can easily see him and Eben switching this season… Or if Tra needs a rest put Monroe at LT and Eben at RT… Monroe will start somewhere, that’s guaranteed!
by floridafalcons#63 on Apr 28, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Why Cox played at a small school may be....
because he grew substantially after high school. I remember David Robinson, the basketball player for the Spurs, who played for the Naval Academy. He was 6’6" coming out of high school and shot up to 7’ by the time he graduated. In fact, he grew so tall that he couldn’t do the job he trained for, working on a submarine.
i think cox has gained about 30 pounds since high school and possibly a few inches
youre right on jaggernaut
Surreal to be Teal
Thanks...
but I’ve got him beat, I’ve gained 70 punds since high school and unfortunately I lost a inch of heught somewhere along the way! I saw on Jagnation that the Jags are looking at a young QB but I’m not a member so I can’t see who it is. Anyone know?
it was the stupidest thing
they were many hours behind my fanshot…..thats john beck
its all speculative, i was so dissapointed. i write better than that
Surreal to be Teal
We should do more scouting throughout the season.
You guys really taught me a lot this year. We should start watching prospects from the very start. Maybe we can find the hidden gems like Cox is supposed to be. Its an idea.
William & Mary
Maybe the kid is into academics…has anyone checked out his course of study & whatnot?
in the sirius interveiew, he said academics was one factor but coach experience was the big deal
i hope im not exageratting but i think the coach was there 38 years
Surreal to be Teal
How I thnk the OLine will be
LT: Tra Thomas
LG: Vince Manuwai
C: Brad Meester
RG: Mo Williams/ Eben Britton
RT: Eugene Monroe
Sorry but I take the vet over the rookie.
Thomas
Manuwai
Meester
Williams/Britton
Monroe/Penalty Pashos
Many reasons why people close smaller schools over big ones.
-smaller classes
-not as crowded
-less distractions
-money
-closer to home
-didn’t grow a lot until well after highschool
Exactly
Took the words out of my text. There are many reasons to attend a smaller school. For example, I know a guy who could have gone to Ole Miss to play football next season, but instead is going to La Tech. Playing time…
Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.
My best friend
Could be playing at Arizona State, but instead chose Penn for the academics and playing time.
I watched all the videos
Gene said Andy Heck had the final call on where everyone will play. No one is locked in to any position.
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YES!
That is the attitude. You must deserve to be a starter, I like that!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 28, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
John
I think both suggestions are great ideas. My 2 oldest boys would especially love the game reviews (9,7, and 2). I subscribe to game informer, but don’t let them look through it due to some of the graphic content. When older yeah, but not now.
Also, the idea of the college review is very intriguing. Talk about the opportunity to scout prior to the 10 draft. I agree with surteal in regards to possibly assigning people to a conference or games with players of interest. Great ideas!!!
My OL would be:
LT- 1) Thomas 2) Monroe
LG- 1) Manuwai 2) Nwaneri
C- 1) Meester 2) Norman
RG- Pashos/Naeole/Williams (In no particular order)
RT- 1) Monroe 2) Britton
With that said, it should never be assumed that these guys are shoe ins. According to Gene and Jack these guys are here to compete, and compete they will!
So what are the matchups for he OKLAHOMA this year? Anyone have a matchup you’d like to see?
MAnuwai, hands down… im not concerned about the middle of our O-line, it’s the edge im worried about…
by floridafalcons#63 on Apr 28, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d also like to see Rashad Jennings vs. Any of our LB’s… I like this kid and think he will have an immediate impact…
by floridafalcons#63 on Apr 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not video game reviews
I was saying how last season I would do an article breaking down each Jaguar game. I was thinking of doing that in video form with me breaking down plays, player tendencies, etc.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 28, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I guess I read, "video game preview" wrong.
So you mean you’re going to do a game preview by video. Right? I think that would be awesome! I also think it would be great to do a weekly podcast. I don’t know what that would entail, but would be cool.
I told you before
Derek Cox probably couldn’t run that fast or jump that high out of high school. Either that, or they just missed. The BCS does not have the market cornered on elite-pro-potential football players, and their scouts can’t be in all places at once.
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This is where I meant to write this...
I think we should have 2 differnt starting rosters, one early in the year and one we transition to eventually.
Start:
LT-Thomas, LG-Pashos, C-Meester, RG-Manuwai, RT-Britton
Later:
LT-Monroe, LG-Pashos, C-Nwaneri, RG-Manuwai, RT-Britton
I know Manuwai is usually a LG, but usually your road grater goes on the right side. Not to mention Manuwai is not the best pass blocker, and on the LG position pass blocking should not be your weakness. So I put Pashos a former RT with good pass blocking skills for a guard, at LG. IMO, he beats out Williams because he’s not coming off an injury and Williams’ experience at RG makes him a better backup for Manuwai at RG.
As for the Tackles, often times rookie tackles do well but they are babied along with TE’s and stuff. But considering we have so many divisional games early in the season I go with Tra Thomas at LT early, allowing Monroe to learn under him for the first few games.
RT is an easier position to learn so Britton can start from the beginning of the season. I’ve seen some people put Monroe at RT, but he isn’t as physical and his primary objective early on will be learning that LT spot. Not to mention Britton already has experience at RT.
At Center Meester will be the obvious starter early, but now Uche Nwaneri will know going into the season what position he will play so he can concentrate at Center, because Norman and Williams can be the primary backups at guard. Uche is younger than Meester and less injury prone, so he should be the C of the future. I know some people want Drew Miller to be the incumbent starter at C, but because he’s slow into his stance I think his future is at Guard. Not to mention Uche has more experience at Center. For anyone that didn’t know, Uche was supposed to be the backup Center until the guards went down, and Miller was playing Guard. However this transition will be a much slower transition than the one at LT.
This whole thing allows everyone to learn one position while putting the best players on the field at all times, whoever it is at the time while making a seemless transition. It also allows for the backups to learn just one position, so when they come in there is less of a learning curve. (RT doesn’t have a specific backup, but there are atleast 4 people that can play the spot, and Britton has shown in college to be very reliable.)
Talk about a young and powerful OL!!! That OL could be one of the best and youngest by the end of the year and for years to come.
I'm not sure what makes you think Pashos has better pass blocking skills than Manuwai...
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 29, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Pashos repeatedly has shown a lack of skill, both through getting beat and having to hold to avoid getting beat
Whereas I’ve always seen Manuwai as a well-rounded Pro Bowl beast of a guard.
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 29, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Well at guard you have
friends to help you pass block, whereas at OT you are left on an island a lot. Just try to pay attention to Manuwai in pass blocking when you get a chance. It’s pretty obvious he’s the worst, when the line was healthy. He’s a great run blocker though.
Stats( Which I didn’t even look at until just now.)
In the 4 years leading up to his injury he gave up at least 3 sacks a year, which isn’t a whole lot but for a guard that’s not very good. For comparison, Maurice Williams and Meester only gave up 1.5 sacks combined in 07.
Monro is Going to be There
You move Pashos to gaurd where he’s less likely to get caught holding because he’s less exposed, and could also lengthen his career. They’ve also said Britton will probably start out at gaurd and Thomas and Monroe will fill the two tackle spots. Bottome line, our line’s STACKED!

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