Would I trade David Garrard for…
With all the talk of quarterbacks being drafted or traded, I thought we could take a moment and honestly evaluate David Garrard. In my mind, the easiest was to do this is to pretend every general manager from every AFC team calls us and asks if we want to trade even up our quarterback for theirs. In the end we will discover how many teams we would trade places with. I hear the phone ringing now.
"Russ Brandon, GM from the Buffalo Bills on line one, sir" Stacy calls out. I love when my imaginary assistant calls me sir. "Russ, big guy, what's up?" I answer. "Terry, would the guys at BCC agree to a Trent Edwards for David Garrard trade?" he asks. "Russ, we passed on Trent in 2007, selected Mike Walker instead. I don't think the guys would go for that, thanks for calling". I hang up. No deal. I do wonder if we should have drafted Trent back in 2007. As a third round selection, he was a steal.
"Bill Parcells on line two, sir" Stacy says. I don't trust this guy, I think before I pick up. "Tuna, you big tub of lard, what can I do for you" I ask bitingly. "I'll be quick", he says, "Chad Pennington and Ernest Wilford for David Garrard, you got ten seconds to respond". I hang up, no deal.
"Belichick on line one, sir", Stacy calls out. I pick up. "Brady for Garrard" is all the voice says. "Yes" I answer. The line goes dead. Bill is not one for words. That trade I would make. I think how Tom Brady would be behind our line and with our receivers. Better draft a receiver now I think, better get on the phone and find some players. You don't waste a Tom Brady.
"Rex Ryan on the phone, sir" Stacy says. "Tell him I'm not in" I answer. The Jets don't have anyone I would even consider.
"Ozzie Newsome on line two, sir" Stacy says. "Oz, you did great last year in the draft, congratulations", I say admiringly. "Thanks for making the trade, hope Derrick and Quentin develop for you" Oz says, he goes on, "We like David around here and think a Joe Flacco for David trade might interest you". I confess it does interest me. Joe represents a young gun with a lot of career ahead of him. I pull the trigger. "Done" I say. I hope Ozzie didn't get the better of me again.
"Pete Brown line one, sir" Stacy calls out. I don't even have to ask which team, the Brown's are icons in football; it is always a pleasure to talk to them. "Hello Pete, still running the probation center for the city?" I ask. "You're one to talk", he answers, "Carson Palmer for David Garrard, what do you think?" "Pete, I'll be honest with you, Carson is too beat up. The lack of a line there has destroyed his future, no deal" I say. I can't believe I turned down Carson Palmer, but I really think David is better suited for our offense,
Stacy pokes her head in, "George Kokinis line two, sir". "George, getting settled in Cleveland yet?" I joke. "Man, is it a mess over here", he answers, "We have two quarterbacks and a pile of head cases". "I need a calm steady force running this team and I thought you guys liked Brady Quinn, so how about an even swap" he asks hopefully. Wow, this is one I have to think about. Somehow it doesn't add up in my mind. I just can't see Brady getting it done here. "Sorry, George, can't do it" I answer. "Wait, how about..." he pleads. "Gotta run, George", I say hanging up. Cleveland is a mess; Romeo had let the inmates run the asylum.
"Kevin Colbert from the Steelers on line one" Stacy says. "Kevin, are you offering Ben Roethlisberger for David Garrard?" I ask. "Don't know why, but yes I am" he answers. I think Big Ben could run this offense better than any other quarterback. "Yes, we will trade" I answer.
"Rick Smith from Houston on line one, sir" Stacy says. I wonder how many phone lines we have. "Hello Rick, what's up". I ask. "How about your quarterback for ours?" he asks. I don't know why I took this call. "You mean Matt Schwab for David; you are joking right?" I turn him down.
"Bill Polian, line one" she shouts. "Listen boy", the voice says smugly, "we feel sorry for you guys, thought we would send Peyton down for a few years, have David report up here on Monday". Peyton for David, what do I think about that? Seriously, we should jump on it but I think David has better years left in him than Peyton has. I seriously do. If both were rookies, I'd take Peyton, but now? I wouldn't do it. "Bill, I'll send Jaxon Deville instead" and hang up.
"While you were on the phone Mike Reinfeldt and Al Davis left messages" Stacy says. I read through messages. Vince Young for David and JaMarcus Russell for David, they say. I throw the notes away.
"Brian Xanders from Denver on line three" Stacy says. I only have one phone; I think she is kidding me about having different lines. "Tell him no deal" I shout. Kyle Orton for David Garrard I chuckle, but wait maybe the draft choices are included? Would I trade David Garrard for Kyle Orton and two number one draft choices? I don't know but then Stacy interrupts.
"AJ Smith on the phone, sir" Stacy says. "AJ, what's up" I ask. "Phillip Rivers for David Garrard are you sure?" I ask. What do I think about this trade? Phillip is a head case but he does have his moments. The long ball is there, the reads, everything. I don't know. I think I would do it. I would trade David Garrard for Phillip Rivers, but it is kind of an even trade.
So, there you have it. I would trade David Garrard for Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Flacco, and Phillip Rivers. I passed on Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning, JaMarcus Russell and Vince Young. It's interesting that the guys I would trade for, most of them I could have had in the draft.
What I discovered was that I really do think David is a top quality quarterback. The Joe Flacco trade and the Phillip Rivers trade is more about youth than ability. We need a younger quarterback this year or next, but for now, David is more than fine.
Suddenly two guys in sunglasses come in my office. "Stacy" I yell. "Stacy had to powder her nose" one of them says. "Yeah, we got a message for you" the other one says. "Big Tuna don't like to be hung up on; he requests you call him back". Looks like Chad Pennington will be our new starting quarterback. Yikes, being a GM is harder than it looks.
So what about you? What trades would you have made? Did I call it as you would?
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Haha that was enjoyable
If any Colt fans read it, they’ll definitely be here telling us how great Peyton is.
I loved it
However, one thing stood out to me, Terry. The trade for Tom Brady, you said bettter get on the phone and get some players. You don’t waste a Tom Brady. Well, why are we wasting a David Garrard? That’s been the number one thing on my mind lately. I know the promises are out there. But money has become more important than acquiring the talent necessary. We need at least 2 quality receivers, not one. Anyway, loved it as always.
That was on my mind too!
Why are we not treating David like he is a Tom Brady? I think this draft will be more interesting than we thought. Gene hasn’t played his cards yet.
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That's what
I love in him, that I have absolutly no clue, what he will do on draft day. It feels a little bit insecure, but I’m Ok with it. I just hope he selects the right guys.
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 8, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Garrard is not a Tom Brady
Brady needs a decent O-Line (which we already have) and possession receivers. Garrard has a decent O-Line, even with possession receivers wouldn’t be able to put up the numbers Brady has. You treat a QB how he’s worth.
haha me either, same reason i dont want cutler
I agree, why are we wasting a david garrard? We need holt then a trade down for DHB!
ok its just what i personally want
surreal to be teal
I would be
disappointed if we traded for either Rivers or Cutler(more so Cutler). But I wouldn’t call it a bad trade.
I would pull the trigger on Palmer even if he is beat up and he is an SC alumnus. I would not trade for Flacco. I have a feeling that he will regress a lot this year. Cam Cameron did a genius job of making him look good.
I would not trade for Tom Brady. I know it sounds crazy, but he’s a little older and he doesn’t have as big an arm which is crucial for older players to age gracefully. (Don’t believe me? Let me give you examples: Brett Favre, Elway, Moon, Marino. It’s a fact of life. As you get older your arm gets weaker, but if you start with an average arm, by the time you reach your late 30’s those outs and deep balls get harder to throw. I know there are exceptions to the rule like with Montana, but now a days you can’t run a pure WCO.) Not to mention that he may never come back from his knee injury completely. Also before getting Randy Moss he wasn’t getting crazy stats that Garrard couldn’t get. He could also lose some of that “magic,” if he left that team and Beel Beelacheck. We all know Simpson may be a weakness of Romo’s, will Brady’s recent marriage do anything to his psyche?
I would trade for Rodgers. I would not trade for beat up Roethlisberger with almost equal play to Garrard, but with a price tag worth 40 mill more for possibly less play time per year.
Matt Ryan probably yes. Though I would be a little scared.
Brees yes, though he wouldn’t fit great in our offense.
Dude
Huge conflict of opinion. Brady is not old. He’ll get it done. Do you not remember the 2006 AFC championship against the Colts? Yeah, they lost, but who did he have as receivers? Have you seen any of those guys do anything since? You wouldn’t trade for Ben? Gimme a break. -1.
But, you’d trade for Rodgers? Rodgers kinda sucks bro. He’s not great. I don’t know. I didn’t know we had such different opinons. No, Brady getting married will change nothing. Maybe he’ll play better cuz he wants to impress her. He’s probably used to hittin’ it by now. No worries.
On a different note, we need receivers.
I should also
point out that I don’t like Brady. lol
I do like Big Ben, but I’d rather spend the money elsewhere while in this market/economy.
Me either
although I have 2 names, when i was in doubt if i was a GM and get the offer:
Drew Brees, and Matt Ryan What about them?
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 8, 2009 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I kept to the AFC or the article would have gone on forever
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I'd take...
Brady, Brees, Cutler, Flacco, either Manning,, Rivers, Rodgers,or Rothlisberger. But that is still only a handfull. And most of these are for youth. I like David and will be cheering for him this year and into the future, but I am not tied to anyone. I would certainly think about doing these deals. If anyone offered two first round picks for him, I would jump on that. You would have turned a 4th round pick into two first rounders(it would make up for Matt and Reggie).
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 8, 2009 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen to that
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by River City Rage on Apr 8, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
That was awesome,
it was the first thing I read this morning. Anyway, here’s who I would and would not trade for. Brady in a heartbeat. He has ice in his veins. Big Ben because he always finds a way to win. Palmer is too beat up, Peyton is to old. I would hestitate at firat but I would take either Brees or Rivers. Matt Ryan is the next great QB so yeah to him. Flacco still doesnt impress me so no to him. I might take Rodgers because he is good but also younger. I wouldnt trade R.J. Soward for Vince Young or Jamarcus Russel. Lets see who else…. No to Shaub, yes to Cutler, and no to Matt Lienhart. Brady Quinn? Give me one more season on him. In the end though I would trade Garrard and every pick we have in the Draft to the Saints for Mark Brunell to come home lol. Great article Tkopa
Funny story about Tom and Giselle if anyone is interested…
http://fanzak.com/fzrants/What_the_Brady_Happened_Just_a_another_day_in_the_Hood
I know things are never as good as you envision them...
or it’s never been for me, but like I’ve mentioned in the past….what if Gene hit on just 3 or 4 of the Jags picks. 3 or 4 difference makers? Serious impact. That’s what excites me. I think with Gene’s final say and scouting background, he’ll make some good decisions.
I live in jax beach and I found this comment…Peyton for David, what do I think about that? Seriously, we should jump on it but I think David has better years left in him than Peyton has. I seriously do. If both were rookies, I’d take Peyton, but now? I wouldn’t do it….absolutely hysterical
living amongs jags fans and if this trade EVER took place I dont think I would hear one and I REPEAT ONE JAG FAN frown, moan, or one word of disapproval over this utterly ridiculous comment of rather having david I cant throw long but i sure can throw that dump off pass well garrard instead of peyton. saying jags fans were be dilirious would be understatement. stop the pretending you wouldnt want peyton. its nice to write that but seriously we are not that stupid of believing a jags fan wouldnt want this trade for one second.
yes the first poster was right. if a colts fan read this they would be laughing and Im just going to add laughing hard.
Hmm
I didn’t say laughing. I said they’d be on here telling us how great lord Peyton is. Thanks for proving me correct.
They can laugh their asses off
While we are kicking them!!! I love this season coming up and can’t wait for a COlts game. Please God let it be openning day.
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I have the feeleing
that neither we start with the Texans, r against one of the NFC West teams(my candidate away 49ers)
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 8, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Away, that's my guess..
Or AT Tennessee.
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by River City Rage on Apr 9, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The Titans
will play against the Steelers on opening gamme, so you can count them out.
By the way next week (tuesday 7 pm to be exact) will be the schedule out!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 9, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
David still has a lot left in him and he was the 3rd most accurate passer in the league back in 2007 with average receivers and a so so line. Peyton is starting on the down side of his career and he started to show it last season. He is still good don’t get me wrong but his days are numbered. to trade David for manning hmm no manning would not fit the offense well but would trade for his brother Eli, Brady, or Brady Quinn plus a couple of draft picks
by jesusjagfan2009 on Apr 12, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions


































