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Around SBN: Two Minutes Of Thunder Basketball Wins The Game

Friday Mini-Camp The battles have begun!

             Derek Cox                        Jarett Dillard                 Mike Thomas

Make no mistake about it, this already has the feel of a very competitive camp.  First of all, it is very very crowded. There are a lot of players out there.  Things are very well organized.

A lot of the action took place too far away for me to see, so I can only report on the drills up close to me, the receivers.

The first drill was 15 yards up field, stop and curl back.  Troy Williamson is quick off the line, stutter step 1,2,3,4 curl back. Four mini steps to brake.  Mike Walker, four mini steps to break and turn. #19 Tiquan Underwood, four mini steps to break and turn. #87 Jarett Dillard two mini steps stop turn leap grab the ball.  Jarett Dillard can break and change directions.

Same on the 15 yards and cut over the middle.  You can see him actually assume a sitting position, just like in the video, before breaking.  The quarterbacks were not on target, but Jarett never missed even if he had to go high and to the left.  When the ball was six inches from his hands, it was as if everything became one and the ball was tucked away. 

J'uan Woods will not make this team.  He couldn't catch anything this afternoon.

Then the one on one drills.  I tried to see who was on who. One time Mike Thomas went up over Will James and fought for the ball along the sidelines.  He wasn't short when he leaped and fought.

Then Jarett DIllard #87 lined up and I wanted to see who he would victimize.  #21 lined up across, quick look at the program, DEREK COX!!!!  Now we had a battle!  Jarett went 15 yards, sat down and curled in. Derek was six inches off of him the entire time, you couldn't see any seperation. The ball was thrown and Derek stepped in front and snagged it.

The rotation came around again and there was #87 against #21 again. Jarett drove even harder, planted even deeper and came out quicker.  Derek had been driven off about three yards and the ball was thrown. Jarett heard footsteps and the Derek reached in and the ball flew high into the air. Derek tracked it the entire time and dove, missing it by about a foot.  Almost 2 for 2 on interceptions. 

Derek Cox looks bigger and confident on the field.  There is nothing that is going to happen in front of him that he can't handle. You can feel the confidence.

Troy Williamson broke deep twice and just waved at the ball as it flew by.  Maybe out of reach, I don't know.

In the 11 on 11, Eugene Monroe has a large behind.  That man is at least 200 pounds from the waist down.  He moves like he is on ice skates, just beautifully and effortlessly.

Tra Thomas is a large man but tall and equally balanced throughout his body.  Just a superb looking athlete.

#23 Rashad Jennings broke through the line and juked one way and then the other in an impressive up the middle run. He caught my eye.

Derrick Harvey got the edge and was closing in on the QB when the dump off pass to Marcedes Lewis was caught, two steps and a drop.  OHHHHHHHHH we all went.

That is about all I saw today, except Tiquan Underwood looks really nervous and better settle down fast.  He wasn't smooth or very effective.

It was a very different feel already to the season and it was a pleasure to see real receivers running real routes.  A lot of plays to the running backs. MJD broke free and Rashean Mathis took off after him and they raced for the goal line. MJD scored.

It looked like fun out there.  To any player who doesn't wake up quickly, you will be gone.  The refocus is complete, football was the order of the day today.

Get out there is you can, they are beginning to put on a show.

 - Terry

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I saw that Dillard vs. Cox play.

Derek Cox’s recovery speed is pretty exceptional. Beat by four steps, comes back and almost makes an interception, awesome. Also, Mike Thomas looked very quick. That Maurice Dupree laying out catch also looked great. Honestly though, Cox and Dillard both looked the best out of the rookies, smooth, quick, and the perfect fit for their roles.

by Kbot on May 1, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree - Standout performance

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by Tkopa on May 2, 2009 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cox will

He will be one of the best shut down corners in the league watch and see

by jesusjagfan2009 on May 2, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope

you’re right. Were you out there too?

by Ewdtrey on May 2, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You wrote

D’Juan Woods couldn’t catch anything, but earlier FanofJag said the same thing about Nate Hughes. Are we talking about the same person and someone may have been confused or are both of them out of the run most likely.

by Ewdtrey on May 1, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Woods was catching everything in the morning practice, ran a great route and got deep for a long ball that looked great. Woods is #14 and Nate is #16. Nate looked rather unremarkable in the morning. Dupree and Bobby Williams looked good in the morning though. I also thought Tiquan Underwood looked good as a KR and seemed to catch the ball well. JMO

by tigg75 on May 3, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the report

about the camp. That Cox/Dillard match-up was awesome, that’s sure. If anyone made/found a video from the day, I would love to see.
Thank you very much once again Terry!

by Zoltan from Budapest on May 1, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

No video allowed Zoltan

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by Tkopa on May 1, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yes

That is for good reason. I was stupid with my wish.
We must not get clue to our opponents!

by Zoltan from Budapest on May 1, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did Vic say the one year the Redskins charged for Training Camp admission?

The Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants were there everyday.

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by Jonathan Loesche on May 1, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The rules are weird

If you charge admission to minicamp/training camp, you have to let other team’s scouts in. However, if it’s free, other teams cannot send their scouts. When the Cowboys charged, they had to let in folks from the other AFC East teams.

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by River City Rage on May 2, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I found some videos

Not much, but not bad either, 2 made by the Florida Times Union:
http://www.jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2009-05-02/story/swift_improvement_down_the_line_for_the_jaguars
And what a piece they wrote about the battle for the offensicve tackle job!
I recommend it to all of you!

by Zoltan from Budapest on May 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how many...

of us(BCC) were out there today.

by FanofJag on May 1, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not

for the obvious reasons…
But really who else was there from BCC?

by Zoltan from Budapest on May 1, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was.

I was standing next to the stairs heading up to the left set of bleachers. I thought those on-side kicks were going to nail me in the face.

by Kbot on May 1, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be

happy if they hit me in the face. haha j/k

by Ewdtrey on May 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heck

I was almost hit today by a home run baseball when I playing some basketball just a few hours ago.

by Ewdtrey on May 1, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

So..

what did you see? Anything different? I don’t know where anything is out there, so I have no idea if you had another view.

by Ewdtrey on May 1, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh. i wish.

a combo of waiting tables and law school exams is keeping me from showing up this weekend. very disappointing.

by abeaugh on May 2, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know

who the workout guys are? Just a simple list of their names.

by Ewdtrey on May 2, 2009 4:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Workout Players

Austin Starr – K
Dewayne Lewis – CB
Mesphin Forrester – CB
Bobby Williams – WR
Joe Monteverde – LS ?
Craig Gelhardt – LS
Nadar Abdallah – DT
Jonathan Williams – DT

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by Tkopa on May 2, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that

I was looking for them everywhere. Do you know their numbers? If not, that’s fine. I do know I saw Nadar Abdallah in the photo’s they put up on jaguars.com.
Thanks a lot.

by Ewdtrey on May 2, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are the

engine which runs BCC this days terry! Thank you!

by Zoltan from Budapest on May 2, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks guys!

Keep the updates coming

by pksiv on May 2, 2009 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

great find

interesting article. if he turns out to be as great as he has seemed so far, i can think of a regional scout who could be in high demand for a better job.

by abeaugh on May 2, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Terry,

When Dillard and Cox were playing each other, did Cox know the routes?

Surreal to be Teal

by Surteal on May 2, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

As a corner in highschool, we never knew the routes even in one on one drills.

by Blair72 on May 3, 2009 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

what if they lined up to do the same route, wr after wr?

it is just mini-camp, if not though its much more impressive

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by Surteal on May 3, 2009 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

They don't do it like that.

It’s possible, but unlikely. At the same time though, the corner has an edge already, because they know where the ball is going. When its 11 on 11, there’s much more involved. One on one, you just stick to your man and play the ball.

by Blair72 on May 3, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's only easier

if you’re a good man to man CB. lol
Cover CB’s usually struggle more here.
It’s easier mentally for both though, generally speaking.

by Ewdtrey on May 3, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my honest opinion

a zone corner is a corner who’s not good enough to play man to man, and the zone scheme makes up for their lack of natural ability. I like to think man to man corners are your real corners. General rule of a corner is to never let anyone get behind you, however sometimes you know you have safety help in a zone coverage so you play the flats, etc. All you have to do is break on the ball when the receiver gets in your zone. In man to man, it’s you against them. You play the receiver. That’s why those double moves are so effective. You have to have talent and instincts, and if you get just a step behind unless your recovery speed is phenomenal, you’re gonna get burned.

I’m a man up corner. I struggle in zone schemes. Alot of corners you’ll see struggle in one or the other, but most are adequate in both. You’ll always see better play from a particular athlete in one or the other. Zone corners don’t have the natural ability it takes to play man in my opinion. Though it’s the hardest to play, I would much rather play man up than play in a zone scheme where I’m relying on safety help.

by Blair72 on May 3, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It takes a lot of trust

to play in a cover scheme. Generally it takes time to get good as a unit.

by Ewdtrey on May 3, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you

guys think that we have red zone potintion in any of this new prospects considering at the combind they finished 1,2,3 in the virticle jump? if so which one would you like to see the ball going to?

by jagsfan4life on May 5, 2009 5:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Dillard's

got the biggest play making ability in the endzone.

by Ewdtrey on May 5, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

do

you think he will make the team this year or next year?

zachary cleary

by jagsfan4life on May 5, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey

Isn’t Dillard kinda skinny? Do you think he’s going to have trouble with the jam?

by Blair72 on May 6, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah a little

but he’s got a pretty quick first step that helps. But he will struggle with that early.

by Ewdtrey on May 6, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought that was the popular opinion

we will see…..i still expect only situational awesomeness from rookie wr’s

Surreal to be Teal

by Surteal on May 7, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

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