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Dr.FSBA: Or how being cynical leads to bliss

If I have learned one thing in life, it is to never get your hopes up. I sat there at halftime of the 1999 AFC Championship game with Super Bowl dreams in my head. We all know how that ended. I've waited patiently year after year for Bobby Bowden to retire, only to see FSU not be able to do what's right for the program. I went out and bought a Matt Jones jersey when they were first available, thinking he would be the greatest thing since sliced bread. I think you can see a pattern here.

I'm amazed at how optimistic this board has become since the draft. I put the over/under at two weeks before someone declares that there should be a 100 ft statue of Gene Smith placed in front of Jacksonville Municipal Stadium. I'm taking the under.

I've seen countless posts saying how this might be the best draft the Jaguars have ever had. Am I the only one who remembers all we've seen of the rookies is three underwear practices?

The 2009 Jaguars may have five rookies starting on opening day. Monroe, Britton, and Cox have already been penciled in as starters, while Knighton and Dillard certainly have a chance to be. A best case scenario for this would still mean that the Jaguars have "rookies" at those positions for the first half of the season.

Where am I getting at with all of this? I, like many others, caught Super Bowl fever last year. I drank down the Jonestown flavored Kool-Aid like it was going out of style and I'm not letting that happen again. You can pump up your expectations all you want. I'm just going to sit here and wait to see what happens.

I see a team that went 5-11 last year and is rebuilding. I'll sit here and cheer on the Jaguars, but, I will do it with cautious optimism. As the great Ben Crowshaw said, "If you keep your expectations low, you can never be disappointed."

-John

 

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When you get your hopes up, you just set yourself up for disappointment.

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by Bestjagfan on May 13, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah thank you

It’s about time someone said this. I’m optimistic about the future of this team, but I’m not ready to proclaim this as the best draft ever because it is absolutely impossible to know at this point.

by Adam Stites on May 13, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

A cautious fan is still a good fan. Did you get the MJD Madden10 pics?

Sean Jax Beach Bum

by cuffs007 on May 13, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes I did, sorry I haven't gotten around to posting those yet.

"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"-Bill Hicks

by Jonathan Loesche on May 13, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries. Posting them is, of course, up to you.

Sean Jax Beach Bum

by cuffs007 on May 14, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I KNOW WHAT U MEAN......

but i go into every year knowing that this could be the year……i am very optimistic and every move i think is a major move excites me. it gets me all hyped up. but I wont go around tellin everybody, " hey we are goin to the super bowl this year….". at the same time i know that this could be a year just like last year and hopefully not worse. but i do believe in this team fellas…. we have to. not only do the players have to surround themselves with positivity, the fans owe their share as well. we have to be there to cheer through thick and thin. you know how many people i have heard in this city say, “o, the jags suck……im not a jaguar”…. dude that hurts, but u know what……..im still a jaguar. we got to be there full blast and if we get our feelings hurt……………….so what?

by FRANKdubz on May 13, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Just for clarification

Dillard will not be a starter if Walker, Northcutt, and Holt don’t all get hurt(or at least any 2 of them, and maybe even Thomas too).

by Ewdtrey on May 14, 2009 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

IMO

Northcutt will not make the team.

by Blair72 on May 14, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

if theyre going to rebuild, youth is the movement

Surreal to be Teal

by Surteal on May 15, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Life sucks

then you die.

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by Tkopa on May 14, 2009 5:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Cynical

Is no fun. Who wants to be around that? There’s nothing wrong with being optimistic. What if I’m let down? You suck it up. It’s part of life. I start every year the same: “This the year!”, “I can’t wait to see how awesome my Jags are!”. When it doesn’t work out, and it has yet to work out, I look to the new day. I will die bright and idealistic. Why? Because in my experience, the sun rises everyday. Here it is again, burning through the fog. Go Jags!

by viator on May 14, 2009 7:34 AM EDT reply actions  

There is nothing wrong with hoping for the best

If you can handle disappointment. Ask for anything as long as “No” is an acceptable response.

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by Tkopa on May 14, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

~Is

This is the year. I’m optimistic I will learn to type accurately.

by viator on May 14, 2009 7:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I know how you feel.

last year, I predicted that the Jags would finish last in the division and not make the playoffs. I made this prediction after the final preseason game. There were glaring weaknesses on that team and the Miami pre-season game really shined the light on them. But nobody wanted to hear and I was absolutely blasted on this board. I was wrong about the record – I didn’t think they would suck as bad at a 5-11 record (O-line injuries were not foreseen). I was very critical of some personnel moves. I feel vendicted on most (especailly Porter) and others we’’ll have to see.

Now we enter to 2009 season. I’m not ready to cannonize Gene just yet – but I have liked his personnel moves so far. He’s gotten rid of a lot of “rotting wood” so to speak. Overall, I liked his draft but question his 3rd round selections – especially giving up next years 2nd round pick for a thrid rounder rthis year. You make an excellent point about underwear ptractices. We had the same thing last year if you recall (especailly with Williamson -who incidently just plain can’t catch in real games, but he looks great in preactice).

My optimistic view would be an 8-8 record this season. There are still holes to fill and a lot of ?‘s to be answered. For example – MJD. I love tbis guy, BUT has anyoine considered the fact that he IS a small back and is extremely physical. CAN he withstand all the pounding for an entire season? DO we have a proven and viable releif back (this has become a 2 back league)? WILL the WR’s improve? WILL we EVER get A QB rush? How will our O-line perform? Can our LB’s improve their blitzing? Will Gerrard learn when to dump off the ball and not hold it too long and take sacks (bad O-line and WR’s who couldn’t get open were primary cause last year in my view)?

These are just some of the buring questions coming into the 2009 season. Practices will only tell us so much. We’ll get a better gauge when 1’s vs 1’s in preseaon starts. I DO expect this team to improve however.

GO JAGS!!!!

by OGN on May 14, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Is Jack Del Rio a real coach or part of the problem?

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by Tkopa on May 14, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

We'll see

This year will tell the tale. How will he tandem with his new DC? Can the team resurrect that break your face defense first mentality? Jack has to be able to orchestrate that return. If not, he may be better served in another role.

by viator on May 14, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

evilboy128 - great discussion.

It’s nice to have a passionate debate of oposing viewpoints while being respectful of each other and openminded. I enjoyed the “banter”

by OGN on May 14, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Theres nothing wrong with having fans who are optimistic yearly,

Without those diehards, ticket sales would be compelling enough for higher ups to consider moving that teams to a different city, Pittsburgh has a diehard base and have had it since the steel curtain, its that spirit that keeps a fanbase alive. Our fanbase needs to be energized instead of the fanbase that allows blackouts, if you handle he odds that you are 1 team in a 32 team league and still think you got a chance, more power to you. This doesnt apply to consistantly mediocre teams like oakland and the 49ers.

by TheTealDeal on May 14, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't agree at all with you on this one
“If I have learned one thing in life, it is to never get your hopes up.”

What a miserable existence. I hope that’s your outlook only on the Jags and not on everything in life. Maybe that’s the Detroit Lions’ philosophy, but that won’t work for the true Jag fans.

Now there’s such a thing as Unrealistic Expectations. No one should be screaming Super Bowl yet (like we did last year), but there’s no need to go to the other extreme and expect the Jags to suck, either. Even Stevie Wonder could see that if we can overcome all the injuries from last year, then we can get back to our winning ways of 2007.

And what’s with everyone trying so hard to temper the excitement over this year’s draft? Every year the Jags have had average drafts – we FINALLY drafted strong from top to bottom, WHY NOT GET EXCITED???

Eugene Monroe will be a better 1st rounder than Matt Jones, Reggie Williams, or Reggie Nelson. So will Eben Britton and the rest of the guys drafted. Does this mean the Jags will be 12-4 this year? Who knows!

I repeat, a true Jags fan will not be negative until you see the team start winning. Anybody can do that. Part of the fun of sports is that you enjoy the ride b/c none of us know what will happen. Who knew the Falcons & Dolphins would have the seasons they did? The Cardinals have been horrible as long as I can remember, but they almost won the Super Bowl.

Relax guys, stop trying to predict this future of doom and gloom, and Man Up! If we suck this year, we suck.

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.

by JagGameFace on May 14, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

He's not saying doom and gloom

It’s about being realistic.

Last year this team was 5-11 and was a complete and total train wreck. One offseason and draft and everything is perfect again? No. That’s just a simple no. Will there be improvement? I think so and I hope so. I have hopes for this team to be around 8-8 and maybe fight for a playoff spot. If this team manages to piece it together and be a really good team, i’ll be absolutely stoked, but by no means do I expect them to come out looking like the best team in the league. In this post I didn’t see negativity, I saw realism. If you choose not to live in reality than so be it, but don’t call out people as not being “true Jags fans” for not jumping on the Super Bowl train.

by Adam Stites on May 14, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the shoe doesn't fit, Don't put it on

I’m not trying to call out anybody in particular. I’ll stand by my statement that a true Jags fan will not be negative until the team starts winning. Where I’m from that’s called a fairweather fan.

I’ve been a Jag fan since the beginning, and every year I’ve expected them to have a winning season. I’ve never heard of any fan of any team on any level that “hopes” their team at least breaks even (8-8) before the season ever began. And any sport that I’ve ever played, I or anyone I played with didn’t huddle up before the season and say, “Let’s shoot for winning at least half our games, guys!”

If that makes me unrealistic, then so be it. I don’t expect them to win the Super Bowl or be the best team in the league (you guys keep referring to that but I haven’t read where anyone on this site has said that). Even if I was a Steeler fan I wouldn’t say we were going to win it all again. It’s too early for that, no matter who the team is.

But to me, unrealistic is sitting here saying that we will lucky to go 8-8 or even break .500 – despite all the knuckleheads the Jags had, we would have had a winning season if 1/3 of the team wasn’t injured throughout the year, including almost the entire O-line, our bread-and-butter.

So I guess what I’m trying to say is to pick a side of the fence and stay on it. Either you believe one of 2 things:

1. That the Jaguars will improve and make a run with a refocused Garrard, a motivated MJD, the infusion of young talent and the healthy return of the veterans, or

2. That the Jaguars don’t have the talent, rookie or veteran, to make the turnaround and compete for the playoffs.

So I ask you SoCal, do you believe the Jags will struggle to go 8-8, or do you think they may improve enough to be in position to slip into the playoffs? It can’t be both.

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.

by JagGameFace on May 14, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is absolutely rediculous

for any one person to determine who is or is not a fan because he / she does or does not conform to your two narrow definitions of what a fan’s expectations should be. That’s completely absurb!!

Here’s one for you – at 8-8 this team will be greatly improved. IF the young talent delivers, it would signify a very postivie step in the right direction. Who wouldn’t find that exciting. We then need to follow that up with another season of improvement. That would be the beginnings of consistency – and again worth getting excited over.

I do NOT subscribe to your definitions and I can promise you – nobody, and I mean NOBODY, wants the Jags to go all the way more than I do. But I’m not going to sit here and blow sunshine up peoples skirts either.

by OGN on May 14, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Homey it's not absurd

Either you believe that the Jags will be better or you don’t. What’s narrow about that? Either they will improve or they won’t.

And you’re right, SoCal, it’s possible that the Jags will go 8-8 and make the playoffs. My bad! (See, I can admit when I’m wrong)

And anyone who downs the team when they suck and then jumps on board when they become good is a fairweather fan. HONESTLY I don’t believe that applies to anyone on this site, but if it offends you it might apply to you. Simple as that. There’s an old song that said, “Ugly people be quiet!” And everyone’s supposed to scream or make some noise. If you were the person complaining about the lyrics or refusing to participate, then what did that say about you?

LOL, Anyway, I’m sorry that some of you don’t have skin thick enough to respect my stance without getting all bent out of shape. I love the Jaguars just as much as you do. I promise I’m not trying to call out FSBlue, SoCal, or anyone else. I don’t even know you guys personally (not yet). But it’s narrow-minded to only like people who think like you do, I don’t agree with a lot of comments on this site but I understand their perspective, and I love the debates.

So hopefully we can agree to disagree without it getting personal. But I disagree that we should have low expectations until the Jags prove otherwise. I promise you Del Rio has high expectations for his team, and it’s his job to make the team believe the same. Hopefully the fans will have high expectations as well – if the Jags fall short, it’s not the fans fault for believing the best of their team.

Now, one last time, (clears throat), my realistic expectations are that the Jaguars WILL have a winning season, and the young WRs will have a huge impact this year. Monroe & Britton will become studs, and the line will make opposing teams once again fear our rushing attack. The D-line will play better and help out Mathis and the other DBs from getting burned game after game. And our LBs will have a breakout year.

It’s not unrealistic, it’s not wrong, it’s just my opinion. Peace!

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.

by JagGameFace on May 14, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baby - that wasn't the premise you put forth

Your premise was that they would improve AND contend. I called you out on that because it IS possible to improve and NOT contend.

peace

by OGN on May 14, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, let's evaluate what you just said

Last year, we had a rash of injuries on offense and defense, mainly the O-line, all of our prized free agent signings sat on the sideline all year, our starting WRs were both coke-heads, and bad character plagued the locker room.

Fast-forward to the offseason, Gene releases all the bad character guys, signs Tra Thomas & Torry Holt, both Pro Bowlers, the Jags have a great draft that brings in 3 young WRs and 2 1st rd caliber OTs, and a new attitude including a state-of-the-art strength training program and a promise to return to a tough & competitive training camp.

After all this, your definition of “great improvement” is 8-8??? My expectation is that they will have a winning season and possibly make the playoffs. In reality, you can have a winning season and STILL MISS the playoffs. So there’s no way to predict that. I merely expect them to compete for the opportunity.

It is possible to improve and not contend. But it seems that today a lot of people are jumping on this “low expectations” movement. All I’m saying is that either we believe that they will improve or they won’t.

You are the one being judgmental. Maybe you should actually slow down and read what I’m saying instead of just being defensive. We’re probably saying the same thing in different ways.

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.

by JagGameFace on May 14, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

with the part about the personnel moves. But one thing we have to keep in mind, is we can always almost anticipate one or two key guys to go down for the season. The question is, can we overcome those injuries and not let it ruin the season?

If so, we should contend for a playoff spot if the team’s head is in the right place and there’s good chemistry.

by Blair72 on May 14, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait wait wait

It’s not possible for both of those scenarios to happen? It’s impossible for a refocused Garrard, a motivated MJD, an infusion of young talent and the healthy return of veterans to improve on a 5-11 season from last year and compete for a spot in the playoffs with a record around the 8-8 range? The Eagles and Cardinals made the playoffs with 9 wins last year. The Chargers went to the playoffs at 8-8. It can be both. 8-8 is an improvement from last year.

by Adam Stites on May 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I'm aware, nobody here has said anything about a Super Bowl bro

If we’re excited that improvement is being made, how is that being unrealistic? I’m optimistic while being realistic. I haven’t really seen any comments or posts on here that have been completely unrealistic or overly optimistic.

Hope for the best. But don’t bring down the excitement for others. Everyone has their opinion. They vary. But I haven’t seen anyone at all say a Super Bowl is the expectation.

by Blair72 on May 14, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOOK FOR THE BEST..............

I am so glad to see that there are fans out there, just like me. Although an 8-8 record would be an improvement, I just cant settle for that. I know that this team has what it takes to go all the way. Am I going to declare that we will? Definitely not. But I know that we CAN. Every Sunday I strap up in my uniform just like the guys on the field, with my heart on my sleeve, literally. Was I upset we fell to the bottom of the division last year? Hell yes, of course. But I know with one or two less injuries and a little extra effort, we could have made the playoffs. So every year I set the bar high for my team. Do my feelings get hurt because we failed like we did?? Hell no, I enjoy every minute of every game, win or lose. This is what makes a die-hard fan. Im not saying some of you guys aren’t, but its not gonna hurt to believe that we CAN be an elite force in the league this year, and we very well could be.

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

by FRANKdubz on May 14, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Welcome to the site... thanks for joining and we look forward to hearing more from you.

You have a great outlook on the games… That’s being a fan.

Hell no, I enjoy every minute of every game, win or lose

The End Is Nigh... www.infowars.com

by silencecs on May 14, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love you too, bro! Jag fans for life!!!

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.

by JagGameFace on May 14, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanx silencecs..........

I will be here for many years to come……

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

by FRANKdubz on May 14, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, welcome homey!

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.

by JagGameFace on May 14, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corrected that

I’m not sure how this turned into a pissing match between what counts as a “Fan.” By the sheer fact we’re all here and posting shows we have strong feelings towards the Jaguars. We simply express them in different ways. If you’re the ra ra type, then more power to you.

This piece was written as a bucket of cold water to the crowd who wants to make Gene a saint and put the entire draft class in the Hall of Fame and we’re only in May. The team was 5-11 last year, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"-Bill Hicks

by Jonathan Loesche on May 14, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, that's funny, no criticism of silencecs for his definition of a fan

It’s all good…

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.

by JagGameFace on May 14, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey bro

I have to say this is one of the most entertaining to read articles I’ve read from you. It’s defnitely my flavor of article. Full of sarcasm and dry humor. I know that’s your style of writing, but this one hits on some very good points.

I think my stance is: When is the last time we saw a draft that had five potential starters? I think that’s my optimism. I’m not saying we’re going to do great this season. I think at best we’ll challenge for a playoff spot, but you hit dead on. I agree with everything you said. Your article brought me down to earth a little bit, but I still like to hold onto my optimism.

by Blair72 on May 14, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Why is the Pete

Ittersagen biography gone? Can someone put it back up, so we can discuss about him some more?

by Ewdtrey on May 14, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

NOT ATTACKING MY OWN KIND...............

I am just making the case that doubt can get in the way of momentum. If we don’t believe, then who will? Think about it……..

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

by FRANKdubz on May 14, 2009 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey bro

Welcome. I read your bio. As far as what you said in it about the type of fan you are, I couldn’t agree more. Exactly how I am. I think BCC has nothing but quality fans. Thanks for speaking out, homey.

by Blair72 on May 14, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

RA RA FANS..................

Dont say “Ra Ra Fans”………..we are’nt cheerleaders………..

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

by FRANKdubz on May 14, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Blair72

Thank you for your welcome……….I am elated for your support on my view. Keep it real and stay black and teal no matter what……..

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

by FRANKdubz on May 14, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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