because he was the #5 overall pick last year…The jury is still out on what kind of player he will be, because he was quite awful last year. That still doesnt change the fact that they would want way to much for him right now in terms of draft picks. I dont know if they would have interest in any players, but i dont think they ask for any less than a mid-round pick if he has another unproductive year, which in that defense, he may. I think we should be talking about this at this time next year.

and Big John. If I was them I would do it too. I find often times we as fans, we don’t wanna give up something that would make the other team want to make the deal. But I think this could do it. Though I would hate to go into next years draft with a 1st and 4-7 round picks only.

because then where does that leave us…with one less early pick and no big man for when we run a little bit of 3-4. I dont think Dorsey is worth a 2nd. If a big time name is going to be thrown in, i would go with a 4th, and they wont want that so its moot.

i would like to have him, but i wouldnt give up anything more than a 2nd round, maybe a 3rd and a player but not big john.

We all really want to talk Jag football, we just dont have anything to talk about. The last thing i will say about this Glenn Dorsey, is that even if we were willing to part with a 3rd and a player, wouldnt we have looked into that between day 1 and day 2 with the chiefs. If there would have been mutual interest, i think we take Dorsey and not Knighton. Right now, I am more excited to see what Knighton can do than i would be if Dorsey were here, after the way he played last year.

There’s always Free Agency

But I’d give up a 1st for Dorsey. You’re getting a former #5 pick with a pick that’s certainly going to be lower than that, and he’ll have at least a year’s experience under his belt. That doesn’t make him old; that makes him less green and more likely to be effective.

You’d also still be keeping Big John, both as a mentor and hopefully as part of another Pro Bowl DT tandem, like he was with Stroud. Rob Meier would go back to being a rotation player, and Terrance Knighton would have time to learn some moves and be more than just a big blob. Eventually he’d be Big John’s replacement in a couple years (or sooner).

Third, the immediate interior line upgrade (and it would definitely be an upgrade over some rookie from Temple and the stellar play from Meier last season) would also help Groves and Harvey in their development, forcing the opposing offensive interior lineman to stay inside instead of helping the OTs against the rush. Dorsey also would be potentially giving you another 8-10 year starter that you don’t have to worry about for a while. The last time the Jaguars had two top 10 picks at DT, I seem to recall it working out pretty well.

Of course the downside is that the Jaguars would be out their 1st and 2nd round picks for 2010. We all know the reasoning Gene Smith had for trading away next year’s 2nd, and many ways the 1st would be a similar form of reasoning. The Jaguars would be betting that the player available when they are on the clock (somewhere in the teens, hopefully) is not as good as a young stud DT with 2 years experience in the league.

This is nothing like trading away a 1st for Jason Taylor. Taylor had already played his best football. Dorsey still has his prime years ahead of him and could be a great player for many many years to come. Young, starter, potential Pro Bowler when paired with a former Pro Bowler, big guy….those are all the things you hope for from a 1st round pick anyway. In my opinion, Glenn Dorsey is worth it.

 That you never trade 1st round picks unless you’re sliding back or going for a uncontested prowbowler. 1st round picks arent like money, you don’t just throw them around. Are you basing your basis of Dorsey’s value on college years because i don’t need to list the number of good college players, bad Nfl players. Example: Danny Wuerffel