Why Monroe and Britton Strengthen the Jaguars' Defense
Jack Del Rio likes this defense, and expects improvement over last season's defensive debacle.
Del Rio sounds as if he thinks he has the players to get it done.
"I like this group," he said.
But Del Rio is the first to admit that talk is cheap. "You don't get to talk your way into it," he said.
"There's no reason to get excited about anything in May except seeing the things that have to be done to give you a chance. And that is energy, effort, commitment, complete buy-in - those are the things we're focusing on right now," Del Rio said. "As a staff we're working our tails off to make sure we're putting our guys in the best possible position they can be in to make plays."
He added, "Right now, I like the way we're going about our work
Although the team didn't make any big splashes in free agency or the draft, the coaching staff is confident the defense can return to its 2007 form.
At first I was confused, "How can we expect to improve when all we've changed is our coaching staff?", I wondered. It's really quite simple actually, and it has nothing to do with our personnel, or the fact that we'll have our two DE's in their second season. It has to do with the offense's ability to stay on the field.
The 2008 Jacksonville Jaguars couldn't run the ball due to a horrific series of events that only the most depraved mind could imagine. Three major injuries and a brutal murder attempt all but eroded the offensive line's ability to play cohesively. They became a weekly jumble of players who continued to be plagued by injuries.
Chris Naeole was re-signed mid-season, and hope sprang forth, "Had we finally found someone to cover for Manuwai?", was the thought of every Jaguar fan. We couldn't believe it when they panned the camera to Naeole, only to see his hand wrapped in a cast. He had broken it during the pre-game warm-ups...
There was nothing that could be done. The offense was doomed to be inept last season. We all learned the importance of the offensive linemen, a great educational experience for every fan. As a result, we heard almost no complaints about the Monroe and Britton picks. We know just how crucial depth along the line is to sustaining success. All but a few fans loved Gene's picks, with some going so far as to express their undying allegiance to the team's new Emperor.
You might be asking how building the offensive line specifically strengthens the defense. There are a few positions on the offense that can indirectly improve a defense. Any offensive line position or running back, specifically because they improve the running attack.
If you control the time of possession, which is done exclusively on the ground, then the opponent's offense stays off the field. This allows the defense to play fewer snaps overall then they normally would. Fewer snaps means fewer yards, more pass plays, and less scoring by the opponents offense. Playing fewer snaps also means that your defense is fresher and less prone to injury (because, again, they play fewer snaps).
Regardless of how well the defense improves on its own, the offense's improvement in the running game will show immediate dividends on the defensive side of the ball.
-Collin Streetman
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good article
when we beat pitt in the playoffs, it wasnt our d that won the game. Our run game can control the clock and holt can help move the chains on third down, and hopefully with some playmakers on d like mathis and nelson, maybe a turnover or two, and i think well be alright
Given A Little Credit To -- "Keep It Real"
Ok post but after reading this article I had a little bit of Dejavu’. Researching though past insertions I realized that the concept of “the offensive line making the defense better” had already been thought of, mentioned, broken down and debated. Below is what “Keep It Real” conveyed less than a ago. If I was the editor I would give some mention to this post (being that it is so very similar) in my on draft. Just a though!
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After reading Tkopa’s excellent piece on where we might be headed, I thought I would say my peace.
Tkopa really covered everything I wanted to say but left out one critical aspect of the game. For those of you that did not read Tkopa’s post, it provides clear perspective and evidence on why the team that allows less than 300 yards usually wins the game. Now, I will be the first one to agree that defense wins games which translates into championships and that we did not address defense as aggressively as we did offense. There are certainly big questions on defense that need to be answered with our D line and Safety positions being up in the air.
However, the thing i would like to add that needs to be said is that our offense, unlike 2007 when we drove 80 yards in 10 minutes, could not stay on the field in 2008. This meant that in 2008 the defense was on the field a lot more, therefore increasing the number of our opponent’s offensive snaps thus resulting in more yards allowed. It’s all tied together and it comes down to controlling the line of scrimmage. That’s why Gene Smith picked who he picked.
Consider this: Scenario 1: We address the defense, draft defense, buy defense etc. and the defense improves tremendously. That is best case scenario. We probably mimic the Ravens of last year and make it to the playoffs lead by a stout defense and a decent running game (provided there are no injuries on the O Line.. hmmm). But once we get to the playoffs in the AFC conference, you face teams with solid defenses and some legit firepower on offense (aka Steelers, Patriots, San Diego etc.). Now your back on your heels trying to stay toe to toe with the Bradys.
Scenario 2: We do what we did, strengthen and deepen the line (understatement), get some receivers that can catch the ball and run and get some depth & youth on defense. Best case scenario? The offense runs the ball well due to a strong, deep O line, setting up the pass. We stay on the field and keep the Bradys of the AFC on the bench (and below 300 yards). In doing this, we give the additional rest to our defense that will elevate their game. Why did Paul Spicer have six or seven sacks in 2007? Because he couldn’t wait to get off the bench. Let’s be real (after all, I AM KeepitReal), Spicer was by no means quick or a particularly gifted pass rusher. He got the sacks he did because teams were behind early against us and trying to throw the ball against an old but RESTED defense. Now remove a Paul Spicer from that defense and add Harvey and Groves. I think they may be able to do better than Spicer and even have a coming out party (dont attack me for being positive, sticking with the best case scenario here). Our controlling the line of scrimmage on offense could be the biggest, meanest 12th man on defense, not to mention it can make our QB better.
So it’s up to you to decide what best case scenario sounds better. Which scenario has a higher ceiling? I think it’s pretty obvious. The Steelers won last year because they did not face a team in the playoffs that could score AND play defense as well as they could. You have to be able to do both to win in the new NFL.
-K (KeepitReal)
Give A Little Credit To -- "Keep It Real"
Typos Typos Typos above …I know I know…..but you guys get it…got it…good !!!
I think you'll find it's a widely held view.
A good rushing attack keeps the time of possession in your favor, thereby limiting your defenses’ time on the field… It’s really elementary, and Keep it real seems to have conceptualized the same. He does deserve credit for being on the correct side of the issue. Strengthening the offensive line and RB positions are a great way to indirectly improve your defense.
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thanks
The Boss, thanks for the mention.
silencecs, the concept may be simple but it escapes the regular fan quite often and I am guessing that is why you wrote a post and put it in the front of the website, no? Keep up the good work.
Exactly... Another great piece would be the D-line's impact on the secondary.
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so....
If I write a “great piece” on that subject and post it in Fan Posts, are you telling me you will write the same thing after a couple of weeks and post it in the front?? I can not wait.
First off, thanks for giving us a great article to read
This is such a boring time of the year…
Nice article. I totally agree, the Jags run the ball and stop the run. That’s what we do. I love having new blood on the O-line. The running game should be a thing of beauty once again this year. I also agree that the D will be better. Any D will eventually give up yards & points when they’re on the field the whole game.
I want to see our run D ranked high, even if we’re giving up pass yards. That means we’re forcing the other team to throw b/c they can’t run, or they’re playing from behind & trying to put up points.
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
Nice article
Stuff like this is the only way I make it through the dead zone. Good stuff, keep it up.
Gread read as always
And I totally agree and understand you. What was one of the most effective weapon the jaguars had in ‘07? Killing the clock with looooooong drive one after another. If that is back (with a running game is somewhere near in the ’07 level and the passing game will be a threat-which it looks like will) then the defense will see less action, less oppurtunities to get burned, or made mistakes(By the way i trust our D, but let’s be honest, then need some help this season, at least I think now, let’s hope this thought will change during the season).
So yes, if the O-line will be as good as in 2007, then our defense will benefit from that.
I think the D will finish in between 11-20(they are not elite-just yet…).
by Zoltan from Budapest on May 27, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions
I am not as optimistic
To date there has be only 1 draft pick signed that I have heard of. The contract he signed (first over all pick) was huge. The Jaguars have a history at the # 8 pick with a hold out last year. I do not think the Jags are going to break the bank to get this years # 8 in camp. That will put us with the 11 year vet at LT, an injured LG, an injury prone center, a potential rookie at RG and Pashos at RT. I hope things work out and love the Jags but ?? On Defense though the 2 DE and Big Hen should be better, but the other DT is either an ageing vet, rookie, or a used to be fast guy who is now trying to put weight on (hope he doesn’t turn into fat and slow)? The secondary is bad. Will our new and smaller receivers be able to block like the big old slow guys? I cannot wait till they prove me wrong . Go Jags.
agree with most. No pass rush makes secondary look worse than they really are.
If we EVER get ANY kind of a pass rush, I think everyone will be “surprised” at the improvement the seconday will likely experience.
That sounds like an article for the "Obvious Guy's Network"
Maybe you could do a fanpost on how a strong defensive line improves your passing defense in two ways.
1. Pass rush means less time to survey the field, more hurried throws, and more INT’s.
2. Strong Run defense enables the secondary to leave the SS in coverage, thereby essentially adding another body in pass defense.
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I'm not going to call you a pessimist
but maybe not that informed.
Tra Thomas only gave up 2 sacks last year in a pass heavy offense. I think he can manage for a few weeks IF Monroe does holds out. (I would count it out, but I wouldn’t count on it. That would just be pessimistic. Luckily for us he has a different agent that hasn’t built up any clout yet, so that could make negotiations easier.)
With the addition of Britton either he or Pashos can play that LG spot that Manuwai might leave and the other can play RT. Keep in mind it’s only May and so Manuwai still has a while to get back to health.
Meester may be a little injury prone, but he isn’t hurt yet. Not to mention we got along ok without him in 07. We did improve when got him back, but we were still rolling well without him.
I highly doubt 15 lbs on someone that is nearly 300 lbs is going to make someone that much slower, especially when the weight gain is muscle.
I agree the secondary was bad. However I think Durant may help things a lot as well as Considine, who knows where he’s supposed to be (Something our defense can really benefit from if it rubs off on players like Nelson). Also, I’m not gonna as far as to say that Derek Cox is going to fix our other CB position, but I have to believe he will at least be a step up from Will James, Brian Witherspoon, and Drayton Florence.
The smaller guys being able to block has been a little bit of a concern to me, but if we continue running between the tackles it wont be that big of a problem. Also I know Walker can block well and so can Mike Thomas. And our TE’s can block pretty well. Also a better passing game from the upgrade in the WR’s and the better blocking from the tackles will probably offset any loss in our WR’s ability to block.
Give King a break
hes coming over from an angry Jag site that is slowly dying. He’ll soon see how things are done on this board. Anyway, I agree with the Article it was great and it represents everything that I want to see next season. Those long 15 play drives that led to points were beautiful.
I don't get the "more prone to injury" argument
I’m not trying to pile on here, but there’s no way to predict when injuries will happen.
First, winning the time of possession wins games. If the Jags are able to run the ball effectively and wear down the defense, I think that energizes the offense, and they play harder, not the opposite. Plus we have enough depth this year on the O-line if injuries happen.
If we can’t move the ball, then our defense is on the field too long getting worn down, and we’re “more prone to lose the game.”
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
Well, You have to look at an injury as occuring at a variable rate...
Meaning that on any given play, someone can be injured.
SO, If the defense plays fewer snaps, then there are fewer opportunities to be injured… make sense?
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But...
when you play fewer snaps you are more likely to get cold, which often leads to injuries. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen an OL get hurt on a long sustaining drive of rushing.
Interesting point, except players are always with trainers or on the bikes or doing whatever they can to stay warm.
I still think you make a good point though. If a player weren’t to stay ready, then fewer plays could potentially lead to more injuries, but I have to side with the fewer opportuinites to be hurt, equals fewer players hurt.
I definitely like the level of logic you took that too, this is why I love BCC and it’s members. Ewd is always on top of everything and constantly makes me think.
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Good points, but...
I think sometimes if you try too hard to make your point, you run the risk of contradicting yourself.
On one hand, if the offense stays on the field too long sustaining drives, they are more prone to injury. But if not, then guess what, the defense will be on the field longer, so I guess they have to worry about being more prone to injury, too. That’s why depth is important – substitutions help to keep the guys fresh if they’re getting tired.
I guess since they have to play some games on the West Coast this year, they are more prone to being in a plane crash, too, huh? Come on, regardless of the “injury risk,” the name of the game is running the ball & controlling the clock!
I also appreciate you guys making me think (and laugh). Great debates give me opportunities to practice my sarcasm.
Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.
Except that running the ball shortens the number of plays overall significantly.
Because the clock doesn’t ever stop. So the entire play clock can be used each play, and the game clock decreases as well. That’s how you shorten the game and beat a guy like peyton Manning.
Passing has a much higher chance of stopping the clock, either by an incomplete pass, going out of bounds, or a penalty. That’s why you have to be able to run the ball to control the Time of Possession. So in effect, if you run the ball more, your offense plays less plays too.
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Plus
Passing generally scores quicker, lowering a teams time of possession.
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-Akrobatik
Right on...
2 minute drives mean that your defense is going back on the field without more rest. Long drives allow your squad to get rested and play harder.
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Long running drives
give our defense time to rest and analyze what the other teams offense has been doing. So when they come back in they have a better idea of what their opponents game plan is.
Yeah
But a lot of times when you do that you start to guess on defense. Meaning you can have a big play play, like a sack, or giveup a play, like a 30 yard throw.
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