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Camp Battle 2009: Considine, Cox, and Williams

 

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Left to Right: Derek CoxBrian Williams, and Sean Considine are engaged in a three way battle for two starting spots


Three camp battles will define how the Jaguars will head into the 2009 season. Those will be for the left tackle, right tackle, and the secondary's starting spots. This article will be focusing on the secondary positions up for grabs.

Several sources have stated that their is something of a three way battle going on between Sean Considine, Brian Williams, and Derek Cox. Brian Williams seems to be locked in as a starter, however, his position will be determined by Considine and Cox. If the team looks better with Considine at safety and Williams at corner, Cox will be fighting for the nickle spot. If Cox shows why we traded away next year's 2nd round pick for him, then he'll be the corner and Brian Williams will be the safety. So then, what does each player bring to the table and how should things shake out?

Sean Considine

Considine is a five year veteran out of Iowa who has played his entire career with the Philadelphia Eagles. Our Yuengling drinking brethren at Bleeding Green Nation aren't too fond of him.Considine started 17 games for the Eagles in 2006 and 2007. His best year statistically came in 2006 where he managed 86 tackles, 60 solo, and one interception. However, after going on injured reserve in November 2007, Considine lost his starting job and never got it back. Considine spent the rest of his time in Philly primarily on kick coverage.

Obviously, Considine isn't expected to be a barn burner at safety. However, he is easily more physical than Brian Williams, which is necessary at the strong safety spot. Being honest though, Considine was originally signed to be a special teamer and back up SS. Then Gerald Sensabaugh found it necessary to move to a state with more gun friendly laws. If Considine gets the starting job, as long as he isn't expected to cover anyone worth a lick one on one, the Jaguars should be able to get by.


Brian Williams

Brian Williams was slated to compete with Gerald Sensabuagh for the strong safety position in last year's camp. Then the team realized that Drayton Florence couldn't cover the broad side of a barn, and he switched back to the right corner position. Williams is still the current starter at right corner, though that might change.

Williams is not the best fit to play strong safety. At 198 pounds, he would be one of the lightest in the league, and doesn't have much experience at the position. He is physical for a corner, however, can he be relied on to go all out as the eight man in the box?

Smaller strong safeties also have been known to be struck by the injury bug(see: Sanders, Bob) because of the physical nature of the position.

Derek Cox

Derek Cox may well already be the most famous third round pick in Jacksonville's history. He put up impressive numbers at his Pro Day that made the Jaguars go for him well before anyone else had him going. The biggest knock on him is that he played his college ball at I-AA William and Mary. Cox was reportedly a man among boys there, however, he may have issues dealing with NFL speed.

Early reports make it seem he is holding his own in OTAs, which is encouraging. No matter how the line up shakes out for opening day, Cox is the future of the defensive secondary. Gene Smith invested a second round pick in him and he needs to show why he was worth that investment.


Where is this all going?

The Jaguars seem to be stuck in a Catch-22 in regards to the secondary position. They have a known product if they place Williams at corner and Considine at strong safety. However, that product would be a very weak one compared to a hopefully rebounding Rashean Mathis and Reggie Nelson.

Cox and Williams represent an unknown but potentially very good combination. This relies on Cox adjusting to the NFL and Williams being able to play the safety position.

I say Cox at corner and Williams at safety is where the Jaguars should go initially. If it busts, oh well. If not, then the Jaguars could finally solidify their secondary, something we all know the importance of.

-John

Poll
Which situation would you rather see?
Williams at corner, Considine at safety, and Cox at nickle
70 votes
Cox at corner, Williams at safety, Considine as a backup
291 votes

361 votes | Poll has closed

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I also read something a few days ago on Jaguars.com about Kennard Cox.

It looks like he’s shown enough to be in the competition for a DB spot as well. Honestly, this is all good news.

by Kbot on Jun 12, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What a good article John

Good job. I hope the second scenario will become reality, and we must not worry to much about the secondary in ’09. It all depend on Cox, but I trust in his abilities.
One more time, really good job. Keep it continue, i would love to read articles, and previews like that!

by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 12, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Second that.

I just Rec’d it… great article John, I really enjoyed reading it. Nice perspective

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by silencecs on Jun 12, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good article, keep 'em coming

I’m surprised how many people want to see Williams at safety instead of corner. I agree with you that Considine will probably be more physical at safety than Williams.

I honestly think Williams will initially start at corner with Cox at nickel, and Cox will eventually take over as the starting corner. Williams could be the odd man out at some point this season.

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.

by JagGameFace on Jun 12, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess I'm in the minority but

I think Williams is a pretty decent option at safety. I’d prefer him over Considine. I think Williams is a solid tackler and even though he won’t land the big hit I don’t see Considine as being able to either. I think Williams has the edge in coverage too.

Nice article.

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by JvilleJag2 on Jun 12, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd say you're in the majority.

Seeing as how 87% thus far has agreed with you.

by Kbot on Jun 12, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless the seconday got better

when they cut Will James…

It depends upon what Cox looks like in pads. If he continues to progress, then line him up opposite of Mathis and let Williams and Considine battle at safety.

Best man wins the starting safety job!

If one of the corners goes down… WIlliams to corner, Considine to safety… insurance

by FL_Native on Jun 12, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Insurance, there it is...

Having options is a great problem to have.

Life's battles don't always go
To the stronger or faster man;
But soon or late the man who wins
Is the one who thinks he can.

by JagGameFace on Jun 12, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow... from the poll, it seems like everyone favors B-Dub at safety over Considine

I love me some B-Dub, so I can’t say I disagree. I may be in the minority, but I know some people agree with me that Williams was our secondary’s best player last season.

Plus, he was acquitted of all the trumped up charges the fuzz hit him with. I am really glad the team showed patience and let B-Dub prove his innocence in court. He’s really a major cog in the defense, and without him, we’d have been screwed last year.

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by silencecs on Jun 12, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the compliment!

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by FSBlueApocalypse on Jun 12, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You deserve it.

You go trough on every possibility, very good work. And rather I read good pieces like that, then specuilate where will M. Vick end up…Did you plan every areas articles like this, or just the major focused part of the team (offensive and defensive line, receivers)?

by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 12, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is...

..this REC’d stuff about? Sorry, I’m unsure of what it is, or what the impications of it are. Could someone please explain?

by KeithG on Jun 13, 2009 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it promotes the story even more to SBN, Google news, Si.com, yahoo news, etc.

Kind of like saying to everyone… HEY! Read this!

The End Is Nigh... www.infowars.com

by silencecs on Jun 13, 2009 5:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As in

“recommend”.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 13, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

~

1 a: to present as worthy of acceptance or trial b: to endorse as fit, worthy, or competent

Vox Veritas Vita...

by viator on Jun 13, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Jaguars seem to like Williams at safety.

That’s probably why so many people put him there in this poll. The safety position is one of the weakest on this team, and Williams is probably the best we have.

It would be interesting to see what happens if Cox plays well at CB and Considine (or McCree) plays well at SS. Who will get pushed down to let Williams play? I don’t think that you can afford to have sub-par play at CB, so I would say that Cox gets pushed down to the nickel back.

by acedarney on Jun 12, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It Really Depends...

On how everything plays out in camp. I may be in the minority, but I like B-Dub as the other corner, Cox/Scotty Starks at nickel, and Considine at safety. I know Considine struggled in Philly, but what kind of defense do they run? The 46…

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Jun 12, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

philly

i think they send alot of blitzes and are a high pressure defense with alot of complex schemes because of all the blitzing. considine had one good year in philly but maybe he will do better in our “bend but dont break” scheme. either way i like that we have some options in the secondary

by jags2732 on Jun 12, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forget all of these options

Let’s go really young.
Mathis and Derek at CB
Starks or B Will at NB depending on who the third receiver is, and if the team is a run first type or not.
Nelson at FS
Kennard Cox at SS
I think next year we trade or cut B Will anyways. He’s one of the more expensive players on the team and he’s not the cover guy Starks, Mathis, or Derek are. And he’s not a great tackler to be a full time safety.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 12, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Vox Veritas Vita...

by viator on Jun 13, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considine was a Special Teams beast at Iowa

and stepped into Bob Sanders’ shoes his senior year as the physical hard hitting safety.

Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake

by shake n bake on Jun 13, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

Is this a true endorsement for Considine, or a cleverly placed suggestion to open a liability in our secondary? Ticksy Coltses.

Vox Veritas Vita...

by viator on Jun 13, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you can look up his special teams beastly-ness

4 blocked punts and a blocked FG in 3 years at Iowa. 4 of the 5 resulting in TDs.

Change these hundreds for me cashier, Cuz I ain't made it yet, but I'm better off than last year
And what it look like hun', I ain't never made it rain but it look like fun
-Drake, Still Drake

by shake n bake on Jun 13, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We survived with Sammy Knight...

So I think we can survive with Considine and Nelson (granted Nelson gets himself a brain). I’m a little hesitant to play a rookie CB at right corner. Seems like CBs need to get their feet wet instead of just jumping all the way in.

I’d like to see Mathis and Williams start at CB with Cox in the nickel situations. We’ll have Starks for depth and dime packages. Then we have Mcree backing up or maybe even starting at safety with Nelson. Hopefully we see good things from Cox and he plays more as the year goes on.

by jimbrophoto on Jun 15, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rookie Corners

Have shown they can hold their own and even make plays. Look at this past season; Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Leodis McKelvin each had a number of interceptions taken back for touchdowns.

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Jun 15, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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