Camp Battle 2009: Tra Thomas vs Eugene Monroe
The Jaguars left tackle spot has been feast or famine. Tony Boselli was on his way to Canton before injuries cut his career short. Since then, Mike Pearson, Khalif Barnes, and Mo Williams have all tried their hand and come up short. Now it seems the Jaguars have a problem of riches. The team signed Tra Thomas in the off season to be a stop gap while the team went to look for a longer term solution. Then, to the surprise of everyone, that long term solution fell into the Jaguars lap on draft day with Eugene Monroe.
Monroe was taken over Michael Crabtree, BJ Raji, Jeremy Maclin, and other capable players because he provided stability at the position. However, can Monroe begin his tenure this year or will the veteran Thomas keep him on the bench?
Tra Thomas
Thomas spent the first eleven years of his career with the Philadelphia Eagles. A Pro Bowl selection in 2001, 2002, and 2004, Thomas was regarded as one of the top tackles in the NFL. Thomas was the 11th overall pick in the 1998 draft out of Florida State.
Along with Torry Holt, Thomas was one of the key free agent signing of the off-season. At that point, it was looking like the only quality tackle available to the Jaguars in the draft was Michael Oher, and he had slipped out of Top 10 consideration. Unlike other offensive linemen his age, it seems Thomas doesn't have as much wear and tear on him. He started all 16 games last year, which is an accomplishment for a left tackle in his 30s.
Thomas' biggest problem is that team he played for the last eleven years. The Eagles offense is the opposite of the offense Jacksonville uses. The Eagles version of a running play was a dump off pass to Brian Westbrook. It remains to be seen if Thomas can be that physical blocker the Jaguars will need him to be.
If Thomas does get the starting job this season, there are two questions that need to be asked; Can he stay healthy and consistent all season ,and, can he be a physical run blocker when needed.
Eugene Monroe
To say it was a shock that Monroe was available at #8 on draft day is an understatement. Monroe was passed over by Kansas City, Seattle, and Cincinnati; teams that had a legitimate need to bolster their lines. Their loss was the Jaguars gain as they made Monroe their highest picked lineman since they drafted Tony Boselli.
Monroe kept the Chiefs' 2007 first rounder, Brandon Albert, from playing Left Tackle at Virgina. Monroe ended his senior year by winning the Jacobs Award, presented to the ACC's Best Offensive Linemen, and was named to several All-American teams.
The biggest knock on Monroe is that he wasn't the most aggressive blocker on the field. In a division with Dwight Freeney, Mario Williams, and Kyle Vanden Bosh he'll have to assert himself and set the tone. In addition, it has been speculated that Monroe fell on draft day because teams had second thoughts on knee injuries he experienced in college. However, I have to think the Jaguars medical staff gave their ok before he was drafted.
What to Expect
I think Monroe will win out eventually. Thomas was brought here as a stop gap and the coaches know that. Monroe is the future of the position. The quicker he becomes the starter, the quicker the Jaguars can resume being a Super Bowl contender.
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Had to scrub the Tra Thomas picture
The formatting was getting a bit whacky
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by River City Rage on Jun 16, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eugene Monroe
I’ve heard that he is really shining in camp, so I think he could/should be the starter week 1. However like you said, Dwight Freeny, Mario Williams and Kyle Vanden Bosch are some of the leagues best pass rushers, especially the first two. And Vanden Bosch is a challenge in the run game.
I have to wonder if the reason the Bengals took Smith in favor of Monroe was because of Smith’s known physicality, even more in the run game, which the Bengals want to get back to. James Harrison and Terrell Suggs, you best be physical when pass blocking.
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by Bestjagfan on Jun 16, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't read too much into it
Think about how many bad 1st round picks the Bengals have had
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jun 16, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
Good point. But I bet that was their thinking… because while I’m a fan of Andre Smith, Monroe is better all around in my opinion.
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by Bestjagfan on Jun 17, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely didnt want Andre Smith
I much rather have Oher or Monroe, andre smith reminded me of a Fat and Lazy Albert Haynesworth
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by TheTealDeal on Jun 17, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Idk...
is Baylor near Cincinnati?
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by TheTealDeal on Jun 17, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vic said
in his opinion, monroe must suffer an injury or produce a meltdown, o NOT be the jaguars LT at opening day. But no matter how it ends, ih Eugene and Tra will be healthy we will have 2 very good LTs in the Jaguars roster!
By the way another great piece of work John, You gave us so many thing to read lately, thank you for that!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 16, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Thomas does win the job then...
there’s a third question that needs to be asked. Why didn’t Monroe win the job?
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by JvilleJag2 on Jun 16, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
around and around we go…. where it stops, nobody knows… until regular season game day….
words of wisdom, eh?
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by cuffs007 on Jun 16, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hah, though if you have other topics in mine, we're always open to suggestions
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jun 16, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, no… it wasn’t a knock on this topic… it was a comment in regards to a lot of stuff being nitpicked to death during the dreaded dead zone…
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by cuffs007 on Jun 16, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't I read that on a bathroom wall somewhere?
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by JvilleJag2 on Jun 16, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's impressive for bathroom writing.
I usually read stuff like, “blah blah has a big c*ck”, or, “call so and so for a good time, she’s a wh*re”. Good god, the lightning outside is going berserk.
by Kbot on Jun 17, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It went thorugh my closed blinds
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by TheTealDeal on Jun 17, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the taking of pelham 123 was excellent
as good as “inside man” with clive owen
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by Surteal on Jun 17, 2009 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just want to know if
our OL will be better off with both of them on the field at the same time. It’s about putting the best possible lineup, and having one of them play RT might be in the teams best interest.
Though there is a conundrum. If we put Tra at RT he may not be physical enough, nor has he played that side in a long time meaning he may be rusty and his body (his muscles, ligaments, tendons) may not be used to sliding and setting in that direction.
However if we put Eugene on the right side, how is he supposed to learn the left side to make and impact later this season there?
The last problem is, what do we do with Britton. I think he could play 4 positions on the line adequately, but he shouldn’t beat out a healthy Mo Williams, Uche, or Manuwai. So this would probably regulate him to the bench.
It’s a hard choice to make. But I’d rather have this problem than the one we had before Tra: Can Jordan Black or Charles Spencer do it? Boy did that idea used to scare me. I tell you what, it scared me enough to want to resign Barnes at the time. haha
by Ewdtrey on Jun 17, 2009 4:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I really think Britton is the best RT on the roster right now. Before the draft I was reading mocks that had him going as high as 18th in the first round. He really was outstanding value in the 2nd.
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by Bestjagfan on Jun 17, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just like the versatility of our Linemen
One can take the place of another
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by TheTealDeal on Jun 17, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Line
I I beleive that Thomas should startm reason being show Monroe how it is done. I also beleive that Monroe will be the starter some time this year most probably at a Home game. I see Pashoes and Britton as the right guard/ right tackle tanden or vice versa. Williams will be a quality back up who can play both guard and tackle positions. Manuwai as the left guard if his knee holds up if not IR for him again and then Uche would be the left guard.
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by armjag1 on Jun 17, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What a great problem to have
Too many quality guys to fit into 4 OL positions. What a 180 from last season.
by VTjagfan on Jun 17, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome to the site brother.... nice to have you.
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by silencecs on Jun 17, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More like a 360
lol
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by TheTealDeal on Jun 17, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should rotate ...
… based on down and distance, opposing defensive player, etc. Keep them both fresh and hungry.
by ruffdaddy on Jun 17, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats a Great Point!
We could do the same with our O-Line like we do with our D-Line. no more tired Linemen!
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