Quick Bytes: June 18th, 2009

by FSBlueApocalypse on Jun 18, 2009 3:39 PM EDT in Quick Bytes Comment 34 comments

Jaguars are smart to stop throwing money at Lemons | Jacksonville.com
"The Gremlin" tells us what we already knew, Gene Smith has done good by cleaning up the mistakes of the Shack era.

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Jones-Drew goes 2nd in NFL.com's fantasy draft.

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Former Jaguar Kyle Brady is doing his part to help honor the fallen soldiers in Iraq

Scout.com: Jaguars Introduce New Payment Option for 2010
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The Jacksonville Jaguars have been awarded long-snapper Jeremy Cain off waivers from the Washington Redskins. I wonder how Joe Z feels about this.

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The Jaguars have concluded OTAs and Jack Del Rio says Todd Bouman can be a quality back up.

The Probably True Origins of AFC Nicknames
Something to laugh at

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David Garrard and Torry Holt appear at #3.

Top 5 Fantasy story lines of 2009
Torry Holt makes an appearance at #5.

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Thanks John

My quick thoughts: I not exactly get it why the jaguars need another long snapper, when they extended Joey Z’s contract. Based on what kind of for Joe do for the jaguars, i wish a bit that the kid will be cut at the before the season starts.
The nickname thing was really funny (Name it jacksonville….. Jaguars give me 50000 $-hilarious!)
And thank for the story about Brady and co.
(and of course all the links as well!9

by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 19, 2009 2:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

2 punters to try-out, and a kicker... 2 LS makes sense.

Camp fodder, unless he really gives Joey Z a run for the money.

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by silencecs on Jun 19, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope Joey Z

will holds his job. His is an emblematic figure of the Jaguars. I can imagine him as a jaguar official when he retires. So I don’t liked the move with the new LS.
As for the punters, I asked Vic on tuesday’s edition about them and that is what he answered to my question:

Vic: I watched Adam Podlesh and Steve Weatherford on Monday as they traded punts on the Jaguars special teams field. In at least one way, they seem to be the same guy. I saw them "kill" punts high and deep, and they’d I see their next punt wobble and nose-dive. Podlesh and Weatherford are guys with powerful legs. The one who achieves consistency will win the job.

by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 19, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw that

During the home games, Joe Zelenka interwiews players on a certain topic, like for once it was boxers or briefs. he’s a good character guy

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by TheTealDeal on Jun 19, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another reason

to keep him here! I mean c’mon it is a long snaper position, I don’t think Joey Z missed a step in that job…I don’ t get this move, to be honest with you!

by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 19, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not his long snapping abilities

that are lacking. It could be his price tag and it could be that he doesn’t offer as much versatility. Or it could be as simple as his possible inability to cover punts like a younger former linebacker can.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 20, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh nad by the way

in the backup QB story Frenette mention as a possible solution Tebow. Oh, no please,(unless we have 3 first day choices, and we have just 1 right now) not fuel that kind of talk. (Oh, I wish David has an outstanding year, so the Tebow-talk can cool down, and the Jaguars can concentrate to upgrade the defense. Yeah, I want a new development QB drafted somewhere like David was drafted (4th round), but unless we have 3 first day choicees, forget Tebow!

by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 19, 2009 2:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i can’t wait for next years draft. The problem is that Tebow might be at value when we pick…..He is a great guy, really
I just don’t want him

Now, if he plays in the NFL like he does in college, then I will volunteer myself for dummy of the day

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by Surteal on Jun 22, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I always like JDR's

view that competition is a good thing for every position. This year we see lots of positions being competitive and that’ll provide dividiends. Like at Punter, its weatherford vs podlesh (I hope Weatherford gets the job) and Long snapper (I hope zelenka keeps it up). I think Tim Tebow would be great as a developmental QB, and i think we could get him early 3rd round because as far as i know we still have a 3rd rounder. Of course our 1st round pick should address the defense, probably DT, in which case i’d hope to get Suh from Nebraska or Gerald Mccoy from oklahmoa (or maybe it was Texas).

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by TheTealDeal on Jun 19, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think Pat White will have a lot to do with where Tebow gets drafted.

If he runs the wildcat well, Tebow may get the same second round treatment.

I can’t see him being a 1st day pick unless he shows vast pocket improvement. I think You’ll see Florida employ more traditional offensive sets to give Tebow a chance. He’ll take more snaps under center, more i formation, single TE, trips, and other more common sets.

That’s his only chance to be a first day pick, and event then, I doubt he’ll be a first rounder.

-Collin

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by silencecs on Jun 19, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I honestly don't think any of the hyped QBs for next year are that impressive.

Between Tebow, Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy and Jevan Snead, the first three are all spread QBs, and Snead can very easily be a one year wonder. However, between Tebow, Bradford and McCoy, I would still take Tebow considering his accuracy, arm strength, and leadership ability are all extremely good. The main faults of his game are his three-quarter throwing motion, and his lack of experience under center, the latter of which, in my opinion, is not a serious issue. For example, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees and several other pro QBs played in the shotgun.

by Kbot on Jun 20, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you want

accuracy Bradford is your man.

I’m starting to think leadership ability is overrated. I mean, I don’t care how good you are at giving speeches or anything like that I’m not going to follow a loser. I think that applies to most people too. And if I’m a professional football player in the NFL, I probably can’t care less what you’ve done in college. Vince Young and Matt Leinart were considered winners and leaders, look at how that’s worked out so far. BTW, I’m not just referring to Tebow. I’m including Mark Sanchez and anyone else that’s being hyped as being a leader or charismatic.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 20, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I kinda think Sanchez will be a bust

kinda like Leftwich in terms of moving up to get them.

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by TheTealDeal on Jun 21, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same with Josh Freeman.

I think that stat about NFL success and games started in college is around 30(?). Sanchez started less than half that, and Freeman is just another JaMarcus Russell.

by Kbot on Jun 21, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So true

he’s jamarcus russell, leftwich and the redskin’s Qb all in one.

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by TheTealDeal on Jun 21, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think mentally

Freeman has JR beat. And he doesn’t have the long throwing motion that Lefty does. And he’s more mobile than either.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 22, 2009 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vince Young failed because he lacks leadership abilities.

He pouts when things don’t go his way, and emotionally collapses at the first sign of trouble. The single year he showed resolve was 2007, and despite his lack of quarterbacking skills, they made the playoffs.

Obviously leadership abilities are not the only thing. In order for a QB to be successful, he has to have accuracy, leadership ability, experience, arm strength, decision making skills, and resilience. Some guys lack one or two of those and have been relatively successful, but the great ones have all of those.

by Kbot on Jun 21, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He didn't fail

because he lacked leadership. People were following him until he took himself out of the game. Not being good enough is why he failed.
Also, he doesn’t lack arm strength.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 22, 2009 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think taking yourself out of a game because fans are booing shows a lack of leadership and maturity.

Also, I don’t think his arm strength was ever in question.

by Kbot on Jun 22, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Misread what you said about his arm strength

I was probably falling asleep. As for taking himself out of the game, he wouldn’t have been booed nor would he have taken himself out of the game if he was playing well in that game.

Like I’ve said before. Winners automatically become leaders.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 24, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see where you're coming from,

but I feel that leaders should also be able to withstand criticism and overcome adversity.

by Kbot on Jun 24, 2009 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bradford isn't that good

He doesn’t really have an arm that can throw all the throws, I rather have someone else.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

by TheTealDeal on Jun 21, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know about that

I know he hasn’t thrown a lot of NFL type passes. But as far as he can throw the ball I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess he’s not asked that deep out that impresses people. Keep in mind he is still young, with the ability to get stronger.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 22, 2009 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The funny thing is

I don’t see how either one will be much better than our 6th round pick in Zach Miller, assuming they don’t become every down QB’s.

Also I’m assuming you mean that you can’t see Tebow as a 1st round pick, not a 1st day pick.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 20, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vic also said that the

wildcat is similar to the Spread. So it it gets more effective and evolves to the Spread then you would see more Spread Qbs in demand.

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by TheTealDeal on Jun 21, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Imagine if the Titans

got Tebow. That could be a pretty wicked back field for running a spread option offense with Young, Tebow, and Chris Johnson.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 22, 2009 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another reason to draft Te-bow!

Btw, he and some of his family spoke at my church Sunday. It was cool.

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by TheTealDeal on Jun 22, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Madden Dream Team

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-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Jun 22, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We should use

Michael Desormeaux (a college running QB), Zach Miller, and MJD back there. Heck with Garrard’s size and tackle breaking ability he could stay back there occasionally.
Who’s better individually can be debated, but as whole and where the players can find their niches we could be better off. I’m assuming Miller will be a better receiver. Garrard is the best passer of the group. And MJD is a better all around back than Johnson in IMO. Deso can be a smaller quicker version of Tebow that can probably contribute more on ST and on defense.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 24, 2009 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Wonder

If Garrard can catch…

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by Bestjagfan on Jun 27, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Almost all QB can

if he were faster, he could probably make a great H-Back.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 28, 2009 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

o yeah

even a gator homer like I wouldnt do a first rounder on tebow, it would be Ludicris. By second day, is it the first 2 rounds, the nfl changed it so i wanna be sure.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

by TheTealDeal on Jun 19, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs