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Dr.FSBA: Or Why Northcutt's release/trade means more between the lines

 

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As Dennis Northcutt's days as a Jaguar are number, I feel the need to sit back here and look at where this team is heading and where it has been. I forget which poster said it, but they said it best, "I couldn't wait for the day the receiving corps was good enough to cut Dennis Northcutt." Last year at this time, the core receivers were Jerry Porter, Northcutt, Reggie Williams, Troy Williamson, and Matt Jones. Let's go through each one, shall we?

Jerry Porter: His best year's came as a number three wide receiver behind Jerry Rice and Tim Brown. A known trouble maker who may single handily personify all that was wrong with Shack Harris' free agent signings after year one.

Reggie Williams: I'm debating whether Reggie deserves to overtake R Jay Soward as the worst pick in Jaguars history. Williams was picked twenty picks higher, and yet he only had marginally better results on the field. Excluding his 10 touchdown receptions in 2007, did he do anything of note that should've kept him on a NFL roster for five years?

Troy Williamson: Same thing as Reggie, except he doesn't have a 10 touchdown year to his credit. I won't even get started on his comment about duking it out with Minnesota head coach Brad Childress.

Matt Jones: Well, he was Matt Jones.

I look back at the articles on BCC at the time and I wonder how my glasses now don't have a permanent teal and black tint to them. We were honestly trying to convince ourselves this team could make a Super Bowl run with that receiving corps. A receiving corps with words like "Lazy, underperforming, uninterested, bust" scattered across their resumes. Yeah, they would help us host the Lombardi Trophy.

Now, every one of those players are gone except for Northcutt and Williamson. Unless Scott Pioli is still dealing with the crazy, I doubt any team will trade for Northcutt and he'll be sent packing.

This Jaguars team now has an actual veteran who has acheived something in Torry Holt, and young wide receivers who were value picks in Mike Thomas and Jarrett Dillard. The WR corps may not light the world on fire, but it won't be better suited for the old NFL Europe either.

Finally, the day has come that the wide receiver corps was good enough to let Dennis Northcutt go.

-John


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He deserves respect...

Dennis came here and worked hard from day 1. Lets wish him the best and thank him for his effort. Its funny how everyone seems to remember a few bad drops. Had he not been here, things would have been far worse…… Thanks Dennis. Good Luck!

by LuckyPriest on Jun 24, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ditto on the respect!

Last year I was pulling my hairs out towards the end of the season after seeing him play the way he did… I was like “Why haven’t they been playing him until now?!?!?” He was playing his ass off at the end… drops may have had a little to do with nerves, esp when the team needs a play and your the only one who can run a decent route. It just goes to show how strong the Jaguars think this new receiving corps is… Best wishes Dennis!

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by JagsNguyen on Jun 24, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't see it

I missed the part where the wide receiver corps was good enough to let Dennis Northcutt go. In place of the chronic underachievers, the Jaguars have……what? Three late-round rookies? An aging veteran who’s already played his best football?

Holt is the best receiver that’s been here since Jimmy Smith, but beyond that, how are we to know Tiquan Underwood is a Marques Colston rather than a John Broussard? These rookies have never been through an NFL training camp with full pads, let alone played a down of professional football. I really freaking hope they turn out to be good, but rookie wide receivers typically contribute very little and struggle to adjust to the higher level of competition.

A few years from now, this receiving corps could be great, maybe even feared league-wide. But that is not 2009, and this receiving corps is still not good enough to cut a hard-working guy, who is a great teammate with perfectly mediocre talent (great by Jaguars WR standards), like Dennis Northcutt.

by MoveThoseChains on Jun 25, 2009 2:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You have an interesting point.

Holt is the best receiver on this team – no doubt. And I also agree that this year’s WR corp probably won’t set the workd on fire. However, we know that last year’s squad could easily be called the leagues worst. I have often referred to them that way and I stand by the comment – the couldn;t get open and when they did, they managed to lead the league in dropped passes. Also factor in that the roster was repleat with bad FA’s and 1st round busts (at the very least 1st round huge disappointments). The bright spot was Matt Jones who missed 1/4 of the season due to drug issues.

Last year’s squad had to be blown up and I applaud Gene for doing so. Sticking with a bad product when you know it’s a bad product does not make good sense.

I agree that Dennis needs to be treated with respect. But let’s be honest here. His last play of note was a gator arm job in the end zone during a playoff game. He did not really contribute last year. In my book, if any receiver couldn’t crack last year’s line up on a regular basis, somethings wrong. That goes for Williamson and Walker as well (big time injury prone).

If you can’t get onto the field and you can’t catch the football – you’re not much good to an organization. In this particular circumstance, the Jags must go in a new direction and they appear to be doing so.

by OGN on Jun 25, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If nobody is

interested, I would give him a chance in training camp. He is just better then Williamson.
He can be a playmaker (last games of last season). If noone is interested I would not cut him. But that is just me.

by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 25, 2009 5:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That is the problem...

Our receiving corps will not be great in a few years if we cut (or place on the practice squad) rookies that we believe can be great, so that we can hang on to a solid mediocre vet. These rookies won’t be on the team in a few years if we do that. We will be playing against them, and we will still just have the old mediocre guy. Letting Northcutt ‘shop’ for a trade this early is doing him a great favor imo. Don’t you wish your boss would do that for you at your job? Nope, they just show up at your desk and escort you out.

by Conservative on Jun 25, 2009 7:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What is the philosphy?

Jag’s management were hoping players would outperform normal expectations. You can’t design a team on this philosphy. The numbers are there. If it happens… bonus, but don’t plan a season around it. I’ll be surprised if Troy Williamson isn’t on the heels of Dennis. I would have probably booted Williamson first. Got to be a money issue.

by Jaghomer on Jun 25, 2009 7:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Teams are best through the draft.

If we let him shop now, we’ll reap the best value in a trade or draft pick.

This team must build through the draft to survive financially and win in the long run.

by LuckyPriest on Jun 25, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I respect Northcutt....

the most out of the “old NFL Europe” wr corps, but I really enjoyed the article, and agree with most of what you are saying. I am excited to see how Gene’s Boys develope. I think that they will be great if Monk pulls his head out of his ass and actually teaches them how to shake NFL corners and safeties. Also, i hope that Holt has a great and lasting effect on the younger wr’s.

by aibtureman on Jun 25, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just a couple comments

 First, i respect Northcutt was a man and as our previous #1 WR. I feel like he was never supposed to be a #1 WR, instead a slot or #2 WR. So I say he did hs best in a position where we had alot of crappy WRs, and thats all i can ask. Now also, why do people demand his head now that we have 4 new recievers, (along with a couple Training camp guys), when he can still be a good WR, in the slot or else, and help Torry mentor our “hopefully positive” future WRs. If we can get something good for Northcutt in a trade and Northcutt wants to do it, then i say go for it, but if he never asked for and he’s still of use, let him catch.

Matt Jones, A real letdown, i questioned his pick every since i heard he was changing positions, when do you do a 1st rounder on some1 who has not played that position before? Blatantly horrible.

Troy Williamson, He’s an R.J. Soward. Can run fast but has “Butterfingers”. Let him go if you can’t get at least a 7th for him.

Lets get those Rookie WRs whipped into NFL shape, and a respectable reciever corps, to relieve the run game, which opposing Defs will target now that we have gotten O-line updated along with MJD;s contract and our “backfield by Commitee”.

The rest of those pathetic WRs you covered perfectly.

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by TheTealDeal on Jun 25, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its really quite simple...........

Ey whats up BCC??? Long time, no talk. Good to be back though. Here is what I believe is going on with Northcutt. Although I do think he really started to come on during those last few games, I think I know what Gene and Jack are thinking……(I am not a psychic). There are 3 kinds of receivers. Speed, possession, and slot. Of course we all know Dennis played the slot and he was’nt bad, but he was’nt great either. Dillard and Thomas are slot receivers also. We just have too many of them. Just because a player is great at a position, does’nt mean you can overload your team with them. Do you want 11 Jones-Drew clones on the field at one time?? It does’nt work like that. Your slot receiver runs the sneaky route and is supposed to be able to get open from your other, main receivers drawing attention. Like a second tight end you know? Catch the defense by surprise. I didn’t say “Wow” enough last season, or the one before. So its a overload at the slot position and they feel he has the least upside. Does anyone agree with me????

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by FRANKdubz on Jun 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

I think I would take 11 MJD’s on the field at the same time. haha

by Ewdtrey on Jun 25, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Hear That

I think Thomas is the future slot guy on this team.

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by Bestjagfan on Jun 26, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Williamson brings the speed aspect. We cant get rid of him because him and Underwood are our only true speed receivers. Even though I really dont know why we got him in the first place. He has’nt proved anything.

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by FRANKdubz on Jun 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually

Mike Walker (4.35) and Mike Thomas(4.29 according to Jaguars.com) are both fast guys.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 25, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoa, the Jags had Thomas clocked at a 4.29?

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by FSBlueApocalypse on Jun 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

the official combine time was 4.40 which was actually faster than Harvin’s time and good enough for 5th best amongst everyone at the combine.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 26, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

I didn’t know Walker was that fast.

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by Bestjagfan on Jun 26, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant that they are the receivers that fit the physique of a typical speed receiver. Tall, slim and fast. Walker is fast, but he has some meat on him and is very strong. He could double as a possession receiver. The typical slot receiver is shorter, still fast though, and runs good routes.

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by FRANKdubz on Jun 25, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Walker is one of those rare guys

that can play any position at wide out. He can go deep. He can play the slot. He can be a possession guy. And he can block. I think Walker’s only weaknesses are health, experience, and stronger hands to catch the ball with someone hanging on him.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 26, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think you can make that statement OGN

I would rather say “hasn’t” instead of “can’t”, unless we somehow knew what the future will be.

by Ewdtrey on Jun 26, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So far - that has been his history. Until he can show up on the field in actual games

and consistently contribute, then it is what it is. I too see the “flashes”, But I have often maintained – you can be the most talented player the universe has ever witnessed – but until that translates onto the field of play, the talent is not being applied and is therefore as if it doesn’t exist in the first place.

But your point on the symantics of can’t vs hasn’t is noted.

by OGN on Jun 26, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walker

I really think he could put up a Pro Bowl season if he could stay healthy for 16 games. Not this season, because Holt is being force fed the 1st role. But in a few years, its possible.

I also have a feeling the Jags are going to get into passing the ball more over the next few years. It just seems like their personnel changes over the last few months point in that direction.

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by Bestjagfan on Jun 26, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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