John Henderson: What is your MALFUNCTION
by River City Rage on Jun 9, 2009 9:45 PM EDT
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WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION JOHN HENDERSON!
I was "all in". I saw what Jack Del Rio said to John Henderson and I was OK with it. I saw that Henderson elected to respond positively and announce that he's "all in", and was OK with it. It looked like this would be an example of Jack calling a player out and it not being a sign that the guy was on the way out. Then I see as a toss-away item on Jaguars.com that Big "Lazy" John had missed another practice with his mysterious shoulder:
Defensive tackle John Henderson (shoulder) did not participate.
Stunning. Eight words that beg so many questions. Is the shoulder hurt so bad that he cannot take the field? Is he being legitimately held out? Or did he tell Jack Del Rio to shove it?
Normally I'm slow to react to things like this. There should be a certain tension within a team, as the coaches do their job and drive their players to push a little harder. Comments, like the ones made by Del Rio, send a message to everyone that anyone in that locker room can be pushed out if they fail to buy in to the overall direction. There are thirty rookies or UFA's on this roster right now, all of them need to learn, and all of them must see that the coach calls out the sure thing roster locks and pushes them to show results.
But no, Henderson rides the bike during the OTA and Jack backs down during the post practice interview.
Call me crazy, call me irrational, call me short tempered, but I think this is something we should be outraged about. I'd like to shout from the rooftops that this is an undercutting of the new regime, (the last for Del Rio, should things not improve), and that Henderson should face serious consequences. And if you pull the "these are voluntary practices" card, I'd encourage you to look at the contact drills held throughout the league at this time before you complain.
Henderson, in my opinion, is sending a bad message to a crowd of rookies fighting for his roster spot. If Big John wants to burn his way out of the team, more power to him. We have a young and developing roster. Derek Landri has put on the weight and spent the time working to contribute at DT as a serious part of the rotation. The Jaguars have no time, no place, and no need for anyone who's going to speak out of both sides of his mouth. You're either all in, and coming to practice, or you better damn well have a serious reason to be absent. Should John have a serious injury, then I'll by all means take this back, but to announce to the press that you're responding to your coaches, and then miss another practice, that reeks of nonsense.
-Chris
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I'm not sure who this says more about, Del Rio or Henderson
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"-Bill Hicks
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jun 9, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
How? Unless a team offered a 2nd round pick and he declined, I can't blame him
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jun 9, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Great film
One of the five best war movies ever made, along with Apocalypse Now, The Longest Day, Saving Private Ryan, and Dr.Strangelove
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jun 9, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Saving Private Ryan
My favorite war movie of all time
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I liked The Longest Day,
I saw it for the first time this memorial day. I hope to see Saving Private Ryan soon.
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What about The Great Escape?
Or Letters from Iwo Jima? Those two are also as good as those you mentioned. On a related note, most of the Clancy movies have been awesome (except Sum of All Fears maybe), and particularly The Hunt for Red October.
Alright
I think this whole thing is much to do about nothing. I honestly don’t hold OTA’s in very high regard in terms of getting players, especially verterans, ready to play in a season that starts in four months.
John might be being, for lack of better word a pussy, but Jack Del Rio is being overly critical of a guy whos there at the workouts and is in my opinion showing his commitment to the team. All in all I don’t think this is really a big deal, I’m sure things like this happen often with teams and they usually just stay in the locker room instead of being expressed to the media.
Now is the time when players show their commitment to the squad, the vision, and the organization.
Jack drew a line in the sand, and it appears Big Lazy has decided to disregard the issue, as of now at least. Maybe he’s got a serious injury, but JDR doesn’t seem to think it is so bad he shouldn’t be practicing.
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Honestly though
hes there and the season doesn’t start for four months. If hes getting out of drills then its when I start to get angry about this.
Did you miss the part where he actually has a separated shoulder ?
I applaud Jack for calling him out but during Henderson’s “all-in” Q&A he clearly stated that the shoulder was separated to some degree and “Jack saw the x-rays” and they were on the same page.
As long as he’s out there riding a bike and not sitting in a hot tub somewhere, I’m okay for now.
Agreed
Man, would we be unhappy if he rushed back into OTAs… and damaged his shoulder enough to knock him out of the real football stuff.
except in the OTA video from yesterday, Jack said he doesn't want to talk about hen because he still thinks he should be practicing.
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No he didn't
He said “we’ve talked about that enough”. He never said “he should be practicing”.
no, he implied he was still disappointed in John for not practicing.
that much was clear.
did you watch it? The last 10-15 secs of the video seem pretty self explanatory to me.
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Dude
Del Rio is still disappointed. He said something along the lines of “We talked enough about that”, meaning he feels the same way he did last week. Also watch Jack’s facial expressions. Learn to read between the lines.
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I hope Vic will share his view
either in Ask vic, or at today’s jaguars This Week about the case. If he sends negative signals either forum, then watch out!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 10, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions
Here's Vic's take on Henderson:
Vic: Jack Del Rio had said on Thursday last week that his stance on the matter hadn’t changed. Clearly, it hasn’t.
Khm, I really not expected from who’s question will be this response! Really! I mean really!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 10, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy there
“Call me crazy, call me irrational, call me short tempered, but I think this is something we should be outraged about.”
too much anger. Let’s wait a little while to see how this plays out before calling for outrage. When Del Rio spoke after Henderson addressed the media, he stuck by his comments and didn’t say it was all good. Because Del Rio knows his players. He knows Henderson will say something and not follow up with actions because he has heard it before when they talked about it privately and there were no results. So let’s see what the plan is. Front office cannot react in anger. John Henderson has played for us for a long time. He has not said anything negative. Maybe his shoulder IS really hurt and it seems like Del Rio is NOT happy but is giving his player one more chance.
Sometimes the cards stack up against you and the people who stand by you time and time again are the ones you respect the most. Maybe Henderson comes back for training camp with a chip on his shoulder, so to speak.
worse case scenario...
what if nothing gets worked out, what do you think they get for Henderson?
Something around what they got for Stroud?
I'm to the point
Where I would rather take a hit value wise than have a cancer on the team.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
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Yeah here it is:
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcsouth/0-10-55/Reading-the-coverage—Daniels-leaves-OTAs.html
Wow, after SI.com, ESPN is discovered the site! I have not a big opinion about ESPN in general. But Kuharsky slowly but surely is becoming a trustworthy guy. Gave credit to him, to found us.
Probably the image was the key, good job, Chris!!!
by Zoltan from Budapest on Jun 10, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well guys
I am one who was hoping for a trade of Big John. Not because I don’t like the dude, (his production has been down the last two years) but because if you are gonna go “youth” the let’s do it. Let’s line up Ellison, Knighton, Landri and any other young guy we can find. Let’s keep our expectations low here guys. This is just voluntary underwear practice. Sigh… i sure am ready for some football, even though the Magic are in the Finals.
Go Magic
1-2 series… next two games in Orlando; meaning its soon to be 3-2.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
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i'm pretty sure someone has done an anylist of him
I think someone should do a thread on where big john could go.
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