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This is going to sound quite weird, but how do you guys watch games on TV? What I really mean is ... what do you guys look at, or look for, prior to the snap? I'm relatively new to the game, as you know, so I think I miss a lot of stuff that the more seasoned fans pick up.

When I first started watching, I'd basically look at down and distance... and then watch the play unfold. Now, I do do try and look at other things but I fear it's very basic indeed: QB under centre or in shotgun, and the wide receiver set. I don't know enough at this stage to really be able to assess the defense, unless it's an obvious nickle situation.

So, in the interests of taking my TV game watching to the next level, can you guys give me some pointers on what you look out for, and why? Would really appreciate it :)

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you gotta take turns

watch the line some, then see if the WR’s are gettin seperation, later watch the QB and see if he seems to be going through his reads. Is the LT letting anyone by? Are the guards pushing? just take turns

same thing on D

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by Surteal on Jul 15, 2009 3:23 AM EDT reply actions  

What you could do.

Even though I don’t do it I’ve heard some people like to mute their televisions and listen to the radio broadcast. If you can listen to the game on the radio the play by play guys usually do a fine job of setting up the situation so you can listen to that and just watch the action on the television.

When I watch a game I tend to watch the offensive formation then check out the defense. I’m not an experienced watcher of football I usually just follow the ball and see where it lands. If I missed something well, that’s why they have instant replay.

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by JvilleJag2 on Jul 15, 2009 5:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Depends on what you're looking for.

If you’re trying to see who you like, see if they can do their job effectively (ex: receivers getting separation, blocking down field, catching, etc.). If you’re trying to figure out what plays they should run, and whether or not they’re running the right plays, read up on formations and associated plays. Better yet, play some Madden, you’ll learn playbooks quickly enough that way. I personally think it’s all a waste of time, because regardless of what formation the defense is in, there are always a dozen plays they can run, so there’s really no reason to watch it from that perspective. If you’re just watching the game to enjoy it, just watch it like you are. After watching some games, you’ll have an idea of what teams are likely going to do in each formation.

by Kbot on Jul 15, 2009 5:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I like to watch everything lol

I like to see G pulls(I thought we did a little too much pulling because as soon as someone pulled everyone could use that as a key that we were going to run. The same goes for when Freddy was in on early downs). I like watching chop blocks, or what the RB is doing in pass protection or in the flats or if he’s just chipping, does the RB look inside out in pass pro, Where is the fulback going and do the opposing LB’s follow him or the OL or even the QB/RB(spies maybe).
I like to watch WR’s get off the jam. When someone goes in motion I like to see if they are playing man to man presnap. I check to see if the Safeties are in the box.
I like watch DL line stunts and timing. Is the back side guy going flat in pursuit. Harvey does a good job of not doing that. I like to see invidual people get off blocks. I like to see run fits in the LB corp. CB’s and S’s in zone coverage are hard to see.
I watch QB helmets to see if they are making multiple reads, or if he sells PA’s and screens.
I often watch for 7 men on the line on offense, but at times I forget.
I often look for weaknesses in the opposing team. And strengths to avoid. I don’t think we avoided Shaun Rodgers enough last year, but he was unstoppable. I thought we tan really well against Javon Kearse, until they switched him out. A huge reason we fell apart in the second half of the second game when Fisher made his adjustment. I remember when people were clamoring trying to figure out what JDR did wrong and it was really something Fisher fixed.
I’d like to point out that Koetter is a genius. He is so good at using peoples’ strengths and finding other peoples weaknesses. Anyone else notice how good he made Pat White look in the Senior Bowl?
I can go on and on, but I’m asleep already. Maybe I’ll to the list tomorrow.

by Ewdtrey on Jul 15, 2009 6:11 AM EDT reply actions  

You Noticed It Too!

Alright. Last season in that second Titans game, everybody I talked to after it had thought Del Rio had thrown the game. Truth is, Fisher is just a great coach. He made his halftime adjustments, and the Jaguars probably didn’t have more than 6 first downs the rest of the game.

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by Bestjagfan on Jul 15, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch for the blitz or where the Qb turns his head

They can be an early look at the upcoming play. BTW the blitz is usually the Linebackers or cornerback moving into th pocket, trying to sack the Quarterback.

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by TheTealDeal on Jul 15, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Some day TV will help ...

… all of us learn more about the nuances of the game. On the Monday night ESPN game we should have an option between two announce teams. One would be the usual entertainment-based show (although Gruden should be a huge upgrade), and the other would be a couple of guys who can really impart some of the subtle details. I’d love to have Tim Ryan and Pat Kerwin, for example (I’m sure you Sirius listeners agree) setting up the plays, analyzing the replays, manning the telestrator, etc. We’d all be so much more knowledgable. Bottom line: it’s in the NFL’s best interest for fans to understand the fine points of the game, so it’s only a matter of time before they give it to us.

by ruffdaddy on Jul 15, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

It actually amazes me how the NFL apparently wants to grow the game and make it global, and yet they make very little attempt to educate would-be-fans about the game. I’m quite sure there are plenty US people who understand the game even less than I do, and it would be in their best interests to educate us all.

by KeithG on Jul 15, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow! PK would be great and maybe Gil "the godfather" Brandt

I remember Ronde Barber on our MNF game against the Giants….he taught defense. I was so happy

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by Surteal on Jul 15, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Madden...no, I mean the video game...hahaha.

Too bad Madden still isn’t on Sunday or Monday Night Football. I learned a lot listening to him disect plays. Hopefully Chris C. will be good.

by jagsfanbrunell on Jul 15, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

oh...

Where I was going with that is if you have NFL Network and you can watch a re-run of a Madden called game, watch and listen.

by jagsfanbrunell on Jul 15, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly

.. I don’t live in the US, and I don’t have access to NFL Network. I actually “listen” to the games while they are live (Fieldpass) and that’s got pretty decent commentary compared to the ESPN guys. It just kind of lacks visuals :)

I watch the games a few days after they have happened, as soon as I can find a place to download them.

by KeithG on Jul 15, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wish I could find a place to download games!

And game tape too! Any suggestions? especially Lo-Doh solutions!

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by freek1969 on Jul 15, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait wait wait… did i read correctly that not one of these replies included watching the cheerleaders at all? wtf, over? haha

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by cuffs007 on Jul 15, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

You'll Get There

Just takes a lot of watching bro. Personally, I’m fascinated by execution of plays and gameplans. I love watching good, hard nosed defense, especially schemes such as the 46 defense. And though I’m a defensive player in High School football, I might be even more enthralled with offense, especially and type of spread or flexbone option. The spread because it’s all about matchups and correct calls and reads. And the flexbone because of the combination of pure power, and a large element of beauty that many people don’t notice. I love to see 3rd and 20, with the defense in a Cover 2 deep shell. Quarterback makes the correct read, hits the skinny post, and converts the play.

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by Bestjagfan on Jul 15, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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