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I watched the pre-season game on NFL Network.  I can only say the Jacksonville Jaguars look miserable as a football team.  I'm sorry, did I say miserable? I meant pathetic.  OK I know it is only pre-season and it doesn't count. You can't tell about the season by watching the pre-season. Go ahead and believe that if you want.  I will believe my eyes.

The passing game does not exist in any form again this year.  Every pass play looks more an act of desperation than a designed play.  Of course I mean David Garrard throwing the ball.  He is not going to win games on his own this year, better to let Maurice Jones Drew throw the ball. When David left and the three wide receiver set was used, at least that seemed to work.  Heck, even Troy Williamson can catch a Todd Bouman ball.

The running game was zero.  The offensive line is not jelled which surprises me from Andy Heck. 

The defense continues to let the edges be vulnerable.  Any team that wants to beat us can do one of two things, run to the outside or throw to the outside.  In fact run a triple reverse and then throw the ball.  God forbid we ever play on a Canadian size football field.  Where is Derek Cox?  Why is every receiver so open the camera can't find a Jaguar player until the reception is made? Why?

While we are at it, let's jump off sides a few time to boot. It doesn't matter. We are headed for 0-16 anyway.

So it is a good thing Scobee can tackle or special teams would have allowed a touchdown.  It is lucky for us a great coach like Russ Purnell is here in Jacksonville.  Glad we stole him from Indianapolis.

When the drive of the game for the Jaguars occurs from your third string quarterback in the last 5 minutes of the fourth quarter of a pre-season game, things ain't going so well.

So here is the bottom line, either Jack Del Rio goes or football in Jacksonville will go.  15,000 unsold tickets will look good if this year turns out like this pre-season game.  Right now I would say Detroit and Oakland will finish ahead of the Jaguars.  Only St. Louis and Kansas City have looked worse. OK maybe the Cowboys too. 

I didn't think it could get any worse than last year.   Maybe it won't, but it isn't looking any better either.

So go ahead and blast me if you want.  Just remember this, I have season tickets and have an investment in this team.   I'm there every home game after spending thousands of dollars a year hoping for more. As someone who invests their time and money and emotion in this team, I want better.  I want real coaching and real NFL football.  The biggest excitement of a Jaguar game can't be the fly over.  It has to be on the field and it has to be on the scoreboard.

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I’ll only add that you can’t really tell anything yet. Let’s remember that we aren’t experts on the 34. It wasn’t that bad for a team playing a game with a 3 man front for the very first time. As far as the receivers, at least they caught the football. Sure they didn’t light the scoreboard up, but they got that first NFL experience under their belt. Brian Williams will not start at CB. I think that’s Derek Cox’s job. He wasn’t there because he’s protecting an injury. Derek Landri got bigger but he can still move. At least we know we have the personnel to run a 34. The thing I appreciate most about this game was that the team at least showed some creativity. Derrick Harvey played both coverage and rush end. At least their mixing it up. Nobody’s perfect for the first preseason game.

Give it some time. If we still look like a hot mess in the 4th preseason game, then we know we’re in trouble.

by moufpuncha on Aug 18, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

You have the right to be upset tkopa

Im watching the game again right now and it doesnt look too good. Why is Harvey dropping back? Is that why we traded an entire draft for him? I dont like the 3-4. I dont think it will work although Miami does have a strong line so it could be just that. The Gaurds and Meester really need to step it up. Too many guys got through. I thought the tackles looked okay. Its only the first preseason game though so I can be patient. Atleast Troy Williamson showed he can catch a little.

by JagSoldier on Aug 18, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

As for Harvey

why not drop him in coverage? What are his chances of actually making a sack against Long? Might as well give the QB some confusion.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 18, 2009 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm disappointed but

the Jaguars always stink in the preseason, especially in the opener. I’m not hedging my bets the team will play like they played tonight. Terry, I know you’re frustrated and you’re not alone but can we hold the “We’ll have the first pick of the 2010 draft” talk until the end of the third preseason game? Yes, I was really disappointed too but I’m not going to judge a game where Garrard is pulled after a quarter and MJD only plays a series.

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by JvilleJag2 on Aug 18, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

terry

as you know, i like JDR

that said, during the in game thread. i wrote goodbye, jack

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by Surteal on Aug 18, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Ummm this is the first preseason game

You do realize that no team looks amazing in their first preseason game. The main thing here was the newbs got to see how fast life is on the field in the NFL and no one got hurt.

If the team plays like this in week 6 then you got a valid point, but in preseason game #1..you sound like a crybaby who WANTS the Jags to leave

by Bryqan on Aug 18, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Week 6?

If the team played like this through 4 pre-season games and 6 regular season games then I would have a valid point?

Are you sure?

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by Tkopa on Aug 20, 2009 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

IYou might be right

but is that something that Gene will do during this season or would he wait until the end? I dont know but we can all agree that it is only the first preseason game so we will see.

by JagSoldier on Aug 18, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I was at the game... we got walloped... very disconcerting...

Horribly undisciplined football… WAY TO MANY PENALTIES… It wasn’t just rookies, I saw mainly vets causing the yellow to fly… Pashos gave up a hold on one play, then gave up a sack the next… he is way overpaid and obviously hasn’t improved much… at least it didn’t appear that way.

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by silencecs on Aug 18, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

you said it...

Undisciplined! I have to question the coaching staff.
Our sacred offensive line looked like bums.
Surprisingly, the defensive front held together. The 3-4 isn’t pretty and will give up the short yards, but from last years D, anything is an improvement.

by Jaghomer on Aug 18, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

and Tedd Ginn Jr.

I remember thinking on that pick, what a mistake, man was I wrong. The league will be earing from this guy. Hey, wasn’t he some kind of serial killer?

by Jaghomer on Aug 18, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember thinking hmmm the Jags might draft Brady Quinn

We drafted down like 2 times and it looked like a stroke of brilliance, then we took Reggie Nelson.

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 18, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

EJ Is open

FA Edge James should definitely sign with Jaguars….

by Murmolaid on Aug 18, 2009 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

this game was sloppy!!!

Garrard looked hideous, hardly any protection, our ends blow!!!

Thanks for the memories Fred

by Rufio904 on Aug 18, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Think about it

You are overreacting a little here. You seem to be pointing out all negatives but no positives. There were a couple positives even though it wasn’t a great performance.

Zach Miller was good. Bouman didn’t look as bad as I thought he might. Landri was a beast. Pearman looked solid. Troy Williamson played about as good as he ever has.

Obviously there’s some negatives. It’s a young team playing in a preseason game with rain, on a partially clay field.

I completely agree about the special teams unit under Russ Purnell. I was questioning that one since the beginning, but we have some players on ST and it’ll get better once Montell is in and they develop a little more consistency.

You have the right to not be happy about the play tonight, but I think you’re being a little overly negative with this post. We need to improve and we will as a team. Give it a week or two or three.

by jimbrophoto on Aug 18, 2009 2:41 AM EDT reply actions  

i completely hear you

it’s just the sloppyness (pre-rain) that worried me

yes williamson looked good…but it was against the 2’s.

Garrard could barely stand up

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by Surteal on Aug 18, 2009 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

The preseason is for this sort of game

Don’t do anything creative on offense (I’d be angry if the Jaguars gave away much of anything from their playbook), don’t play a starting CB because he has a little injury, experiment with a 3-man front to see if it works (it doesn’t), etc.

MJD barely played, and this is the first football played since December. I remember everyone throwing a fit about the lack of good O-line play in the 2007 preseason, and they ended up being a main reason that offense was record-setting. And hey, Troy Williamson showed signs of life!

I would suggest relaxing. Take a deep breath and achieve a state of Zen like your buddy John.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 18, 2009 3:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll talk to John about it, thanks!

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by Tkopa on Aug 18, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I successfully

slept our 1st preseason game.
It seems to me i not lost too much. I real everything to see what happened.
I say, it was the 1st game since almost 8 months, so no hurry to judge the guys, that they will play like that all year.
Although there are lot of concerns in almost everywhere-that is obvius The jags have 3 pregames to find the right direction, although they have a LOT of work to do.
But yesterday’s game showed why many consider the jags as the 4th power in the AFC south in this season.

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 18, 2009 4:07 AM EDT reply actions  

wow a jaguar fan actually being honest. thats why the karma of the colts article is so ridiculous. you have bigger problems than bragging about the colts injuries which by the way isnt really that big.

david garrard IS horrible. but this isnt shocking. when the only positive memory to come out of the game is stevie wonder williamson actually catching a couple of passes from the backup qb against the backup d…I think del rio needs to get his bags packed

the O line. wow they are worse than the colts and this is after all the picks. I dont know but like the author of this story said..unless maurice jones drew can do it all and that includes throwing the ball…he is going to be dead by game 8.

but other teams already knew this. you just cant throw in a bunch of rookies their first year and have one hit wonders..see garrard…automatically revert back to his one hit wonder year, the guy sucks, and players who never played before…it all takes time. when I hear some of the jag fans predicting all this greatness, its fantasy because until you get rid of del rio you will never go anywhere….but LA

garrard looks like a lost puppy. thats your leader. good luck with that

by kinnickcolt on Aug 18, 2009 4:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Who farted?

Dude you are as pleasant as a rash. You come to rub salt in the wounds of the fallen? Karma? If you buy into that philosophy, surely you realize you’re working on earning ass cancer. Go on and sing that song to the tune of the Jaguars ruin. You may well choke on those lyrics come September 13th. The season ain’t over yet, princess.

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by viator on Aug 18, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm sorry but...

 how did the Colts look in their pre-season opener ?

by pksiv on Aug 18, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck with that big head and Peyton Manning Forehead

We aren’t talking about Karma on this thread, and unless you’re a complete imbecile you’ll realize this is the first preaseason game, its like the tutorial to the NFL, I bet Baltimore was relieved when the Colts moved because of absurdity of some of its fans.

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 18, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

people who live in glass houses can’t throw bricks.

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 18, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh and picking up the colts special team coach who the fans begged to fire for years and CLEVELANDS d coach…who actually thought this team would be better. those two coaches alone were run out of town…..only for jax to pick them up. again pack those bags jack. you can home soon. on the other coast

I still cant believe the jags picked up that loser purnell. karma?

by kinnickcolt on Aug 18, 2009 4:34 AM EDT reply actions  

i can't believe it either (purnell)

but after you come here to draw the ire of the fans. karma would be us beatin you and laughing at you, not the colts, you

please carry on an intellectual conversation or leave

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by Surteal on Aug 18, 2009 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll totally agree i wasn't sure about Purnell

But I do think we’ll be better than 5-11, i’m thinking 7-9

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 18, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

I will give you that one Purnell was a sorry pick up but the season hasn’t started yet and the pre season is a time of experiment

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 18, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

he was talking about the physicality. The rest will come in time. I thought the DL did well, especially against the run. And don’t be fooled. That is a good run team. And the OL had it’s moments. They just got to work together more.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 18, 2009 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Stopping the run so effective is maybe the biggest positive thing of the night.
Although there is a loooooot to do until the season starts.

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 18, 2009 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was really focusing in on the 1st qtr - 1's vs 1's

This is what really counts – scrubs vs scrubs – who cares. OK – to say that this teams has a long, long, long way to go is perhaps understatement of the year – you might say it’s from the “Obvious Guys Network”.

I was very disappointed in the O line and Tony Pathos picked up right where he left off last season. If this is indicative of his performance to come – he will not be the starter at least at RT. The line play on the whole – well, pass protection looked like a Dolphins jail break. The WR counldn’t get open vs the 1’s and David is looking like 08 David and not 07 David. They also got physically whipped again although not as bad as last year, but they had their hats handed to them. The bright spot was (I can’t believe I’m going to say this) Troy Williamson – his catch of the deflected ball was awesome. Not to be a complete tool – but his one catch vs 1’s resulted in a fumble (which he recovered).

The D looks like a smoke and mirror job. They genereated some QB pressure via the blitz early, but once again this D line cannot pressure the QB on its own. Run D was better than I expected, but Tpoka is correct, they looked vulnerable outside.

I know this is the 1st preseason game and I’ll reserve final judgement going into the season when all 4 preseason games are in – but judging off this 1st outing – I’m very disappointed at where this team is right now – wow that was ugly.

PS – there goes another penalty – nice coaching.

by OGN on Aug 18, 2009 6:46 AM EDT reply actions  

The only guy who saw it coming last year was you.

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by Tkopa on Aug 18, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

u cant be a fair weather fan

u cant threaten to not buy tix if they dont win becuz thats why teams move so frequently u either like going to the games or u dont …its an atmosphere and a chance to go out with friends and family to see a live sporting event … of course u want the jags to win but dont stop going because they have one bad season and a bad pre season game come on they made it to the divisional playoffs in 07 think how happy some fans would be to have that kind of season and excitemnet in january dont always be so ungrateful for what mr. weaver has done for this city and region he is perhaps the best owner in the league..now with that said lets support this team the way they deserve and theyll get rid of JDR if hes not havvin a good year

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by TheAutumnWind on Aug 18, 2009 7:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Who threatened?

I’m there baby, every week they are playing. I am not a problem to this team. They need to get better and play NFL quality football, period.

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by Tkopa on Aug 18, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

ur a good fan

and ur part of the solution

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by TheAutumnWind on Aug 18, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just worry about the fate of the team

i just worry about the team in general i cant help out i live in CT and the best i can do is go see them play in NE and they get to keep the 40 percent of my ticket revenue fomr the visiotrs pool… i just want the team to be economically viable u know so i worry they’re losing fan

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by TheAutumnWind on Aug 18, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fate of the team is a valid worry

A winning tradition builds a fan base.

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by Tkopa on Aug 20, 2009 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

JDR

JDR’s job will be gone if we have a loosing record by bye week

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 18, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bye week is week 7 right?

so we’d need to go 4-3 at least?

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 19, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

1st Preseason Game

I actually finished watching the game and saw what I had expected from a rebuilding team. Like they said during the game… there’s like 30 new faces out there. Once the new people started to play, I expected there was going to be some penalty calls… esp from the rookies.

My main concerns after watching the game is:

1) Special Teams – definitly not a fan of Russ Purnell… were the Colts special teams ever any good?

2) Penalties – I expected some from the new guys… but it was a bit much on that one drive, I think like 4 in a row?

What I like about the game was:

1) Recievers – they actually looked good, I liked Nate Hughes the most. There was one play where it looked like he just sucked the ball out of the air. Start of the 1st qtr was a bit sloppy… but it picked up a bit.

2) 3-4 – I actually think the 3-4 brought some good pressure & the Jags used it on prolly half the plays… only thing I’d like is that after they get penetration, they wrap up the tackle. There were like 2-3 missed sacks.

All in all it was enough to still get me excited about this season & believe that they’re doing this for the best of the team. You don’t get to the Playoffs winning in the pre-season… it’s supposed to be live practice against another team & a chance for you to work out the kinks, esp on new schemes like the 3-4… I mean what did you expect from a team who’s been playing the 4-3 for the last 15 yrs? Just ask the Colts if they think winning the pre-season is important…

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by JagsNguyen on Aug 18, 2009 7:08 AM EDT reply actions  

holy crap, batman.. way too much emotion on both sides… too much negative and too much positive… it’s just a freaking preseason game… take it for what it is

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by cuffs007 on Aug 18, 2009 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

And the Jaguars just got flagged again.......................

And I thought I was the pessimist here.

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by Jonathan Loesche on Aug 18, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions  

And if you still feel blue

There’s like a whole series on youtube.

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 18, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

There should be more of those

even once in a while

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 22, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jaguars

I don’t think things are as bad as you make out, friend. It’s the 1st preseason game. I’ll admit the Jags looked sloppy, horribly so. But I’m not ready to lay down and die just yet. Uche let defenders into the pocket like an usher at church, and that sucks. Brian Williams is not looking good. He’s not playing safety, he sure as hell is not playing corner…what is he doing? We may be in trouble. Who knows? There’s still time to work out the kinks. It’s the preseason.

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by viator on Aug 18, 2009 7:48 AM EDT reply actions  

It ain't over yet, boys...

We’ve only just begun.

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by viator on Aug 18, 2009 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

MJD barely played...

Not having to account for him makes the defenses job tremendously easier. Things will be different when he’s on the field every down.

by pksiv on Aug 18, 2009 7:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Some may disagree but,

I thought Groves showed some good burst putting pressure on the qb a couple times and stuffing a run in the backfeild. I also thought Knighton looked like a stud in the middle leading to landri looking good aswell.

by Jermaside4 on Aug 18, 2009 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

Groves did look sharp. He had a lot of energy and Knighton was aggressive in every play I saw him in.

by JagSoldier on Aug 18, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I also thought Harvey played well. He got more tackles ina few plays than he used tog et in entire games.

by KeithG on Aug 18, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good football fans boo their teams

but they boo them from the seats in the stadium. I remember the Steelers being booed at home in a playoff game. The fans demand good football.

If you own season tickets and are at the game, you can boo and be demanding.

I’ll bet Wayne Weaver would trade polite comments from non-present fans for demanding fans sitting in the stadium anytime.

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by Tkopa on Aug 18, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I actually think...

it’s a good thing the pre-season is blacked out this year, esp in a rebuilding year. You can never expect a pre-season game to help sell tickets, let alone from a team more interested in retooling themselves with a roster comparable to a newly acquired franchise.

I admit the 1st string vs 1st string did look bad… but I don’t think you can ever expect a pre-season game to sell tickets. Just ask the Lions fans who bought tickets after they went 4-0 during the 2008 pre-season… lol

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by JagsNguyen on Aug 18, 2009 9:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't boo

my team, although I always trying to be critical, but I try to notice the positive things as well.

But I totally understand your point Terry. By the way, did you see POSITIVE things last night from the team? (I fall asleep before the game started(How can that happened????) so I didn’t see the game, just the recaps, that’s why I’m asking)

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 18, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

This blog is retarded

Wow, you over react much? What were you expecting this year, The jaguars winning the super bowl? With so many new players and people coming back from injury, in addition to implementing a 3-4 defense wtf did you think you were gonna see? I dont get how you people complain and complain when if you have any common sense will know this team is rebuilding and will take MORE THEN 1 PRESEASON GAME to work everything out. This blog is pointless for people who actually know whats going on….

by OneSweetWorld on Aug 18, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

You're pointless

That was a nice attempt but never. Has anybody here said absolutely anything about Superbowl, even going 8-8 or higher, NO. Some people vent their frustrations in the heat of the moment, I think thats understandable since we are in fact Humans. I don’t see us haveing a winning season in the very near future, but i don’t think we’ll be lame ducks winning 3 games.

The positives that I saw:

Troy Williamson, can catch the ball.
Dillard has hands but needs some work, but has potential.
We established that Greg Jones isn’t a great RB and hopefully we wouldn’t try too much later.
Vaughn, Pearmen, and sometimes Jennings can run the ball behind MJD especially Vaughn.
There was more pass rush but still not enough, an improvement tho.
Considine can get to where the QB throws, just needs to catch the ball.
Durant looked good as middle LB
Zach Miller can catch the ball, OMG OMG, finally we got a pass-catching TE
Harvey look good standing up, still has work to do.
Groves looked awesome, He might have 20 more followers on Twitter.
Torry Holt has fuel in the Tank, he can catch pretty good and in clutch situactions.

I’d like to point out:
Tim Shaw, one of my favorites didn’t come.
Derek Cox didn’t come.
Russell Allen got kinda hurt
etc We still have 3 preseasons to watch and look.

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 18, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad you know what is really going on

and thanks for coming down from the clouds to enlighten us poor retarded mortals.

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by Tkopa on Aug 20, 2009 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

My Thoughts:

Good day all lets put some thoughts out there from the game:

1. Get rid of Bouman keep smith as a practice squader or a third stringer and get a vet Qb of the waiver wire

2. WR’s need to work on their catching skills Williamson looked good if he keeps this up use him as a #2

3. If Pashos keeps playing like this then we need to send him packing and give the chance for Brittion to shine

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 18, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Thomas Williams

I hadn’t heard much about him in camp & he was out last year due to a camp injury… but man he looked good! Even though it was vs 2nd & 3rd stringers… he was near the ball a lot & had great enthusiasm, kind of enthusiasm I like to see from my middle linebacker!

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by JagsNguyen on Aug 18, 2009 9:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's a very smart player

but he’s not very fast or strong. He was actually a healthy scratch for a large portion of last season.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 18, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think there's alot of playing more to go

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 18, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

"Get Del Real"

Hey folks, the game last night against the Fins DID show a lot! Wheather the Jags overachieve, underachieve or meet expectations, the outcome this year will not vary much in the end. This is because of the coaching mind set. And that mind set was vividly represented in one offensive play in the first half.

The “seconds” were in and they were moving the ball. Up comes forth and one inside Fins territory. Del Real calls for a field goal!!! First, of all of all the unknowns on the Jags team Scobeee is the most known. But what really comes to the HEART of things is the mind set lost by Del Real’s option. He should of said, “boys lets slam them in the mouth and get this thing, it is what we do!”

Nope, I guess we will leave that for the Steelers, Giants, Ravens and Dolphins (see the forth quarter) of this league. I watched several other preseasons games this last week and in every occasion forth and one was a “go down” . You want to bring an offensive line together, you want to bring a teams together – let ’em rip.

It is preseason but it is past the time to get Del Real to learn how to win!!!

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by First#15 on Aug 18, 2009 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously, is this your first season watching the Jaguars ?

Del Rio goes for it on 4th down more than any coach in the league. Everyone needs practice and if not Scobee, than how about the rest of the guys on the FG unit ?

by pksiv on Aug 18, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad we couldn't go 4-0...

in the pre-season… Now our chances of drafting Tebow with the 1st overall pick is over!!! =(

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by JagsNguyen on Aug 18, 2009 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Seriously

No, it is not my first year – it is the offensive line’s first year. Insanity has been said to consist of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. It is time someone tells that to Del Rio!!! The new guys on that second team need to be shown how to win in the NFL, not just to stay close and possibly survive the day.

First#15

by First#15 on Aug 18, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

There were some positives....

The receivers played pretty well. I could tell a huge difference in just how they ran routes compared to last year. Monroe will be the starting left tackle. I thought the interior defensive line played well, especially Landri.

There were some negatives. Kick coverage was hideous. Brian Williams was not good. Tony Pashos was really bad. Hopefully Tra Thomas can move to right tackle. Lots of missed tackles particularly in the dolphins backfield.

by orangeparkfl on Aug 18, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Here we go again...

i hope you are not insinuating that Todd Bouman is a better QB than Garrard because its not even close. Bouman played nearly 2 and half quarters against the dolphins 2nd string defense. Give me a break…

by Slvrgun on Aug 18, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Nope I am not suggesting David is not the starter

David is out guy and he need protection. However Big ben can hit a receiver under much more pressure. David lost 20 pounds to move faster. He needs to move and find someone. David did not carry the day. JMO.

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by Tkopa on Aug 18, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I was kind of a Smith fan...

from seeing him play for Tulsa a couple of games, but what I saw Monday night says he is not NFL material. I would surley re-evaluate this again come Saturday and pull the trigger. Give Smith a little more play time and decide. Again, #2 QB is only a fill in. Did Bouman look better than Quin Grey as a back-up? I think so. He’s not the long term answer, and if David was to go down during the season, time to go shopping, but for an 8-8 projection, not really a concern. It’s just the Jags have no one in training that is the concern, unlike the Dolphins who have 2 very good choices for back-up.

Just remember these words for the 2010 draft. Top 10 pick = Big Man or QB no one else you Crabtree lovers! Told ya so…

by Jaghomer on Aug 19, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll definately draft a QB

I’m curious to see which one

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 19, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, I just said the same thing about Bouman being a better backup than Grey

on one of the other posts. You’re right. And we did fine for those 4 or so games in 07 with Grey, right? Bouman is fine. No need for us to worry.

by Blair72 on Aug 19, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

We had a better

team around Bouman, and two great backs to carry the load.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 24, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

This deserves a Wittgenstein quote
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

Ludwig Wittgenstein

What may best suit some is to evaluate every other preseason game, at which point some type of parallel (albeit flawed still) can be defined and then a conclusion can be reached. Please step back from the ledge until after game 3 of the preseason.

The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall.
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by Brian Fullford on Aug 18, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Toatal overreaction by a lot of fans here....

makes our fan base look ridiculous. It’s the first preseason game and they’re still fitting players together in the offensive line to come up with a winning combination. Jones Drew, the face of our franchise, touched the ball once. As did Trorry Holt. Those who have reacted so negatively after less than 2 quarters of preseason play by the guys who will be getting most of the playing time, are short sided. I could see if it happened like last years game where we were physically beat. Penalties are part of the beginning of pre-season and should be mostly eliminated by opening night. The Dolphins also had their share of mental penalties. Special teams are also something that will come together over the next 3 games. How much real tackling on kickoff returns have been happening at camp? I saw a lot of good things. Some receivers who can catch, a very deep linebacker corps, a young dt with a lot of upside, a first round draft pick, that without any training camp, looks like the real deal. I know there was a lot of sloppy and bad play but again, it’s the first of 4 preseason games before it even counts.

by Jaggernaut on Aug 18, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Amen!

I also wanted to add that there was a monsoon by the 3rd that contributed to even more sloppy play… I’m excited to see the game this Saturday & see how they tweek some things.

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by JagsNguyen on Aug 18, 2009 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That was wild...

how it poured really hard and then nothing falling. As far as the mud, with all the money involved in the NFL, seems like they could do better than playing on a baseball field. Not to belittle the intelligence of the Jags fans on this site, who are very smart and informed, but how many know that JagsNguyen = Jags Win? I have a cousin who married into the name Nguyen, isn’t it like the Vietnamese version of Smith?

by Jaggernaut on Aug 18, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Yea, some people caught on in another thread about my ID. Nguyen IS basically the Smith of the Vietnamese community… my father said it was due to the popularity of the former Nguyen Dynasty & I think many people had changed their last name to Nguyen in order to help the family escape from invaders… I could be wrong though.

Lets compare this pre-season game to the regular season game that we’ll have @ home later this year & under totally different conditions & circumstances. At least we’ll be able to play on a decent turf… compared to Landshark Stadium’s baseball/football combo. I’m pretty sure we’ll see something very different…

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by JagsNguyen on Aug 18, 2009 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

Still plenty of time before the real games start, lets hold off on jumping ship before a real snap has even been taken.

by TheHammerOfSpicer on Aug 18, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant total not toatal.....

a mental error that I should have corrected by opening day!

by Jaggernaut on Aug 18, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Once the O-Line fixes their stuff

the offense will start clicking. That is unless they go with the same lame play calling they did last year. Run, run, short pass, punt. Exciting.

by JagSoldier on Aug 18, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

No one has talked about Monroe...

granted it was against the 2’s, but the dude has missed almost all of training camp…when i focused in on him he absolutely stonewalled the pass rush..he’s going to be an absolute beast…i thought britton looked pretty good too

prob not time to panic yet, but i said that last year after the miami preseason game

by jlana24 on Aug 18, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

This is off topic guys but I was wondering if someone could help

I’m one of those sad jaguars fans that doesn’t live in the Jacksonville area (I live in New York) and thus cannot get any games on local TV or radio. I’ve suffered through sirius radio for a couple years now, but Sexton gets me way too excited by screaming and going nuts about MJD up the gut for 3 yards. I know people sometimes can watch games streamed online, does anybody know how that works / could help explain it to me? Thanks

by TheHammerOfSpicer on Aug 18, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I hear you

NFL.com does stream games, but you have to be out of the United States to use it. I’m guessing it has to do with the TV rights, but I could be wrong.

I’ve watched a couple of Jag Monday night games online (I think NBC streamed them). If anyone knows of something let me know. Unfortunately my cable company does not carry NFL Network (and apparently has no plans to), and I can’t get satellite where I live. DAMN THE MONOPOLY!!!! I’m stuck watching the Cowboys and Texans every week :(.

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by harperslaw on Aug 18, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live in Raleigh, so I have the same issue

Direct TV’s NFL Ticket is the life preserver of choice. And it’s benefits are not just limited to Jags games but access to the best games for any given week.

I watched last nights game online via JustIn TV – you can go to http://www.justin.tv/ and search to pick up local broadcasts online.

Hope this helps.

by OGN on Aug 18, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I knew about DirecTV, I’d just rather not shell out all that money if I don’t have to. Hopefully JustIN TV will get it done!

by TheHammerOfSpicer on Aug 18, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justintv.com, surteal helped me out

So i’d just ask before the next game

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 19, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust

What i am seeing when Garred steps back is that he has very little trust in the O-line that they can protect him. What we need to see is Garred develop trust between him and his line. If he does that he will be more adept to making the 2007 style throws.

O-line LT = Monroe
            LG= Man
            C= Meester
            RG= Thomas
            RT= Williams/ Brittion

Backup= Williams
                 stephenson
cut = pashos / jordan black

My opinion what is yours

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 18, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Backup Center spot - Cecil Newton

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 19, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Experiment

 this is what the pre season is for to find out what works and what does not work. I am happy that the JAG’s played horrible and this game exposed all that they need to fix. I am happy that this is all shown before the end of the pre season and the start of the season. Now lets fix it keep what works get rid of what doesn’t and lets play football.

As for all the Colt fans on here running their over pride full mouths i saw parts of ur game vs the vick’s and ur team looked worse then the Jags

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 18, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

If you need to see results for you to buy tickets to the game; then the team doesn’t need you as a fan. Wait, I just promoted your status. You aren’t a true fan if you need to see those results. You sir are the joke, not the team.

by jax cheddar on Aug 18, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I may retract part of that statement. The last part that is. I do have a question though: What are your expectations for this season? It’s practicaly a new defensive line and the offensive line hasn’t been playing as a solid unit yet. It’ll take time. As for Cox, he was injured and held out. He’ll be there. His judgement needs to be passed till the end of the season, at the earliest.

I’m just getting tired of people screaming about poor performance as the reason for tickets not being sold. That’s a joke.

by jax cheddar on Aug 18, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the retraction

I appreciate the reaction to my article. The support of this team is good. Now show up at the games and make your voice heard.

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by Tkopa on Aug 18, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, I have to make my comment before I read the others so I don't forget what I wanna say

Terry, man, I’m feeling you. I know it’s early, but it was not pretty. I’m very frustrated in just the lack of discipline. If it was messy football but we still showed discipline, I’d be better. This team had too many penalties. False start after false start. I’m more frustrated at Tony Pashos than I was Khalif Barnes. Why does Pashos even have a contract much less playing with the first string? He gets burned time and time again, and then he makes up for it by holding. He’s horrible. Let Surteal play RT, because anything is better than Pashos. If Britton isn’t starting on day one, I’m quitting on Del Rio.

Speaking of Del Rio, if he doesn’t have the team just doing snap counts for 2 hours today, then something is wrong with the coaching. Discipline should come first. Even a highschool football team doesn’t false start 5 million times consecutively.

I’ve been on the Del Rio bus until last night. The coaching inadequacies are clear and apparent. The discipline is something to be desired.

Garrard played like shit. Simply put. He didn’t show me he was comfortable, he didn’t get good protection, and he didn’t throw worth a shit either. What’s with the whole falling down shovel pass to the defender thing?

We need to get our rookies involved more than ever. Get Monroe and Britton in there. Send Pashos to the CFL, cuz man I can’t stand that guy. Jennings didn’t show me much of anything, but maybe it was because our line wasn’t making any holes to run through. How is every run the Dolphins had going for 10 to 12 yards? With all of the negative however, I gotta say our receivers looked pretty good.

I’m not going to say they looked great, because it wasn’t against Miami’s first team defense, but I was thrilled with Williamson’s play. Dillard and Hughes played very well, and Underwood could’ve had some nice catches if the ball had been thrown with more accuracy. I’m ready to see what the two Mikes can do.

Knighton looks like a pretty big dude. Btw, I’m going from one subject to another, sorry, but our secondary still looks like ass. I like the schemes we experimented with on defense though.

We’ll get better, but Garrard better get his butt in gear, because Bouman played much better than him last night. No excuse. Get it done. You got paid, now show your worth.

I was happy to see my man Wilford get some love on the Dolphins last night.

I’m so frustrated that I can’t put my thoughts into logical sense right now. My venting is done… Btw, I know the game was broadcast over the Dolphines network, but those guys were idiots. How is it 3rd and 4 when your on the 4 yard line? Maybe 3rd and goal with 4 yards to go for the touchdown. The Dolphin love made me sick to my stomach. I hate listening to clearly biased commentary. But, I must digress and say at least I got to see the game.

Blair out.

by Blair72 on Aug 18, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Im gonna blame the O-Line

for most of DG performance. The Gaurds werent on it last night. I think that will be fixed though.

by JagSoldier on Aug 18, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be worse...

we could be the Vikings! Being held hostage by a washed up QB who is way passed his prime.

by jagsfanbrunell on Aug 18, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re overreacting.

by Kbot on Aug 18, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Forgot to mention.

Paul Kuharsky has linked you.

by Kbot on Aug 18, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, should have abided by the 24 hour rule

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by Tkopa on Aug 18, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beware, the Kuharsky is watching

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 19, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Madden and fantasy foorball expert Thokpa's blog

I suppose that the Dolphins will go 0-16 also since they played at an equivalent level to the Jags. We could have kicked a field goal to tie in regulation if that would ease your Video game mentality. To the permanently infantile population that occupies the football blogosphere instant gratification is a birthright . I was in the stands at last years Miami preseason game and we were less physical than the Roar. We got ass kicked ,period. This team is definitly better on D. When Cox takes over for weak link Williams we’ll win at least 7-9 games , and yes mostly low scoring affairs. By the way, Del Rio is no Tom Coughlin but the real problem, the pathetic Shack Harris is gone.

D O

by Jagnole101 on Aug 18, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

you gotta understand

this was posted right after the game…i felt exactly the same way after i watched it…24 hours later we all come to our senses and realize it was just a preseason game…everyone was sloppy…

BUT YOU GOTTA LOVE THE PASSION

by jlana24 on Aug 18, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its the first preseason game

of the first season on Gene Smith. Lets take a few breaths woo saa for a moment and evaluate things. the jags didn’t become a mediocre team overnight and they will not change to a team of greatness overnight. It is going to take time and a lot of good choices by Gene and Co and a lot of support from the fans. As fans we need to show the NFL that a team belongs here in JAX because right now a lot of people don’t believe that one does.

So far i like what i have seen from our draft choices lets chill out and go from here

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 19, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Terry

I still think we played like shit. Just saying.

by Blair72 on Aug 19, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

we did

Let’s hope we have something to brag about after Saturday.

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by Tkopa on Aug 19, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nicely put

and I agree completely. The one thing I wish I would have heard about was that the team spent two hours the next day going over the snap counts.

by Blair72 on Aug 20, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

New England Lost 7-6 last night and Cincy’s kicker was OchoCinco… They are going to be soooooo bad this year. Fire everyone, Brady is done. Second preseason game too.

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