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Game 3 Summary - I think I'm in love

 
There was a lot to love about the Jaguars tonight.  Like any good relationship, no one is perfect, but overall the positives far outweighed the negatives.  Let's see, where to start...

The Defense! The backup linebackers played and made a case to be first string guys. Brian Iwuh played the game like a young Mike Petterson. He was everywhere hitting everyone without any showboating.   It was a joy to watch.  He was the only one of 22 players on the field to correctly diagnose a fumble. No one seriously chased him the 75 yards he ran it back. Thank God no one did, he ran out of gas once and took a break during the run. It was a smart heads up play. His 7 tackles far outpaced everyone else. 

The other guy that jumped out at me was Derrick Harvey.  On the Eagles first possession Harvery brought pressure on the first down. On the second down, in came Vick with a suttle pass and Harvery smelled it out. On third down he flushed Donovan McNabb out of the pocket. In the second series, he lined up wide and got Vick again. Later in that series he was chashing down McNabb and got double teamed.  He was drawing double teaming later when he was in.

The Jaguars introduced the 5 man front and I loved it.  It confused the Eagles and opened the door for blitzing. Raheen Mathis hit McNabb, Brackenrich got him twice.  There was no time to throw in the first half. 

Coverage remains an issue and I think Brian Williams is becoming a liability.  The Eagles had 200 yards passing in the first half and most of the completions were easy completions.  So we have a quarterback under pressure, linebackers shutting down the run, and 200 yards of passing in the first half?  Yikes, it must drive Jack nuts. 

Scott Starks was in and looked very good.  Gerald Alexander had a beautiful interception. I think things are getting better in the backfield but they still are vulnerable.

Here is what I loved the most.  Nate Hughes took a viscous hit to the head from Asante Samuel.  He layed there a long time almost dead.  When the defense came back on the field, it was clear they were going to avenge that hit.  I swear I saw rightous anger and a strong hitting back from this team.  That will make me fall in love with this team every single time.

Overall, the defense against the Eagle first team gets a B+.  Vick did look very good with great speed on his few throws. 

 

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The Offense?  The offense was working on certain things tonight and it was harder to evaluate them.  I liked what I am beginning to see and the mad genius of Dirk Koetter is becoming clear.  They worked running to the left almost exclusively in the first half. A team that can run to the left has a very versatile offensive line and usually produces an effective running game.  Last year they were limited to running to the right and the running game was too easily shut down. If they can open up an effective attack on both sides, it is like a boxer with knockout power in both hands. This is clearly a work in progress and a capability they worked hard in the Tampa game, but results are beginning to come.  Watch for it next week.

 

The play calling was excellent. Dirk Koetter correctly picked up on blitzes and launched MJD off on screens.  This threat will keep the defense off David as you only need to be burned once or twice blitzing before a team quits doing it. One thing I was very glad to see was Eben Britton streaking across the field and throwing the key block for Maurice. Vince Manuwai looked confused as Eben rush into break open the play.  I was lovin what I saw from Eben tonight.

David worked timing patterns with Torry Holt.  David and Torry are forming their relationship.  Asante Samuel is not stupid and picked up the practice intention and sat on a Torry route for an interception. I didn't care about the interception because I knew what they were doing. When that timing gets right, the old hook and go would have burned Asante.  This will be a productive relationship, give it time.

Nate Hughes courage convinced me he deserves a spot on this team.  He snatched the goal line pass and took a monster hit.  Torry Holt cheered the touchdown, realized the fumble, scored the points and led the prayers for Nate to get up. I was so glad to see him get up. That catch won my heart.  Torry's reaction made me glad he was here. Torry Holt is a wonderful presence and would make a great receivers coach when he retires.

David was just so so tonight and his offensive line didn't keep people off of him again. Eugene Monroe struggled again, but the talent is there and he did get out well in run blocking. Mario Williams will eat him up right now. I thought Meester and Mo had a bad game as heat came right up the middle. A QB has trouble with straight up the middle pressure as it draws his attention away from developing patterns.  The offensive line still confuses me and I am wondering who the best five really are. I think the 2007 O-Line was a primary run blocking line with some pass blocking. In preseason this year they have been trying to be a pass blocking line with occasional run blocking. I don't know if that matters but it is something to discuss.  Why won't David scramble?

They aren't working much on running so the run game doesn't show much just yet.  I know this, there is a big drop off from Maurice Jones Drew to the number two back whoever he is.  Wish we had someone like, oh I don't know, maybe Fred Taylor?

Jarett Dillard had a nice TD catch with a beautiful use of hands snatch from mid-air going up high to get it. It was clear his record setting college performance will translate to the NFL in time. (Clear to me, or is it just hope?) Afterwards I saw Torry Holt congratulating him. In practice, I took a lot of pictures of Jarett approaching Torry for help and Torry working with him. Those two have formed a nice partnership.  I loved everything I saw from Torry, and loved the Dillard catch._dsc0245_medium

Overall I give the offense B- tonight. But it was a big improvement. There were almost no flags thrown against them in the first half. Eugene drew the first one for holding and I think Tra drew one for false start, but a very disciplined team showed up. 

Special Teams... Coverage was very good thanks to Brackenridge and Chauncy Washington. Witherspoon is a major risk. I watched him commit the cardinal sin of punt return by running up to make the catch on the run.  This is a high risk move because a fumble on special teams can be a game killer. I would coach him out of that real fast or not let him in if he does it again.  However, if he catches the ball clean, he is simply the best return man we have.  Clean him up and then reap the benefits.  So competition woke Podlesh up? About time, I was annoyed with his lazy attitude and was more than glad to see someone challenge him. He has shown his true ability lately. 

Special teams gets an A tonight

In Summary. I am looking forward to seeing them against Washington.  I am falling in love with a hard hitting QB chasing defense.  I am loving the beginning of a two sided running game and the possibility of a potent passing attack.  I am beginning to forget last year.  I am beginning to smile about opening at Indy.  We just might bring a surprise for them and I love that thought most of all.  Are you reading this Kinnecolt?  We are coming your kick your donkey asses.

 - Terry O'Brien

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Good evaluation

Something must be done about our backup qb situation I don’t have a whole lot of confidence in either of them to get the job done.

I agree with what you said about the RB’s, it would be nice to have Fred even if he did have a more limited role than in previous seasons. Speaking of RB’s, what the hell happened to Jennings? Is he still suffering from a “strain?”

by rusty904 on Aug 27, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least Bouman gets lucky once in awhile.

Paul Smith needs to be gone, he has an arm weaker then Kyle Orton, that is saying something, and floats just about everything he throws. I know he wasn’t meant to be a starter on this team but come on how bad does a 3rd string QB have to be to get cut?

by Aurawolf on Aug 28, 2009 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you Terry.

Most of the night was good but I still don’t like seeing David being hit and rushed as much as he has been. The middle of the O-line, Williams, Nwaneri and my favorite player, Meester, hasn’t played well. I also don’t like what I’ve seen from David, an occasional errant pass just makes me cringe. However, overall it was a fine night.

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by JvilleJag2 on Aug 27, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am also growing concerned over David's inconsistent play (glad I'm not the only one seeing it)

He can look great one play and horrid the next. Looking more like 08 David as opposed to 07 David. Maybe it’s a combination of getting used to new WRs and a new O line – but there is reason for some concern here.

by OGN on Aug 28, 2009 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is reason for concern and you are calling it out correctly.

Also he refuses to scramble. He is not helping his line out at all. Last night McNabb showed what buying time can do. David refuses to move when he drops back. All the top QB’s keep a play alive. David is now a bottom half starting QB. He isn’t doing $9.5 million worth of work.

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and he holds the ball to damn long - a carry over from last year

We need to coach him up – ‘keep chopping foot’

by OGN on Aug 28, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not that meester

has played great but it wasn’t his mistake that caused Garrard to get hit. That was Nwaneri’s man.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 28, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Washington flashed

He might end up being a decent backup RB after all.

You made a really good point that the offensive line is a run blocking line being asked to primarily pass block in the preseason. I think once the regular season starts and the running game is emphasized as usual, they will gel better.

I love this team.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 27, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was quick

Terry. And very well written(again of course). It was a very interesting game (and I mean interesting looking plays again and again. Did you see the very last play?)

I’m a bit sad that the loss( I know it is not counts, but the Jags lead from the start to the last 20 second)

I’m seeing the improvement there as well, so I’m happy over that.

BUT:
The Jags have a veeeery lucky game, and seeing the stats, well it is not looking so good:
Total net yards: 230 (!!!) -431
3rd down efficiency: 4/14 20 %
Rushing yards: 64 (66 for Phily great job there D!)
Receiving yards: 166-365(!!!) Passing game and pass defense struggled
That’s why I said we got lucky. But I saw almost the same improvment as you do Terry
And the PS place for Paul Smith is too much if we see how he performed (again) Todd had an average game-but the Thigpen trade (my offer give us him, and we send you a 5th or 6th reounder and Brian Williams and/or for example Rob Meier)

I hope no one other than Nate Hughes injured, And even he can be at the Redskins game, which I waited as much as this game.

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 27, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Zoltan, you are looking at it like a game

The Jags attempted plays they would never attempt in a real game on third down. You will see a different team on opening day.

With that said, you are right to believe the Jaguars do not yet demonstrate a consistent offense or a consistent defense. What you saw showed a team that will grow in ability through the season. They are not there yet, clearly.

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

I’m took a bit serious.
BUT 3rd down and total net yard from the offense (and what the defense allowed) are a bit conccerning.
The Eagles is a playoff contender, the numbers the Jags produce might be a preview what this can do against the top teams.

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 28, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think stats can be very misleading in preseason

But I think you are right in your areas of concern.

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

zoltan

pass dfense was great, just read Vic. Our defense was excellent, Mcnabb threw it 36 times. dont be dumb

by harveyismyboy on Aug 28, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's true

I hope against Manning, Schaub, Warner, Brady etc. the pass defense will held too.

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 28, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great answer

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The production stats are what's important.

If the Jags weren’t lucky on a few plays, they would have been blown out. This was against a team testing the waters with Vick and without Westbrook. A few exciting highlights made it entertaining, however, the proof is in the pudding.

by LuckyPriest on Aug 27, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Garrard-led offense and the backup LB-led defense brought plenty of pudding

Garrard’s final drive ended at 1:52 in the 2nd quarter. At that point, the Jaguars were up 17-3 and were being outgained only 103-140, with the Eagles having had 6 drives and the Jaguars 5, with the 92-yard TD return taking the place of the 6th drive. Plus all three starting LBs being held out makes up for Westbrook.

In other words, when the stats mattered, it was close. I couldn’t believe how long McNabb was left in the game. I guess Andy Reid wanted to make up for the general disappointment of Michael Vick.

by MoveThoseChains on Aug 28, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are?

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow...did we watch the same game?

Lucky??? Man… I think Terry’s review is spot on. It’s a preseason game. A time for evaluation. That would explain the lack of so many starters. I’ll agree the Eagles were doing a lot of experimenting, but their O-Line looks worse than ours. And I think if the MJD offense was in place we would have run the ball down their throats all night long, your left – your right.

I was pleased with what I saw. Garrard has me a little concerned. I am hoping his doubt of confidence doesn’t spread to the rest of the Offense. No, I think the Jags bigger problem will be in who stays and who goes. Not a bad problem to have…

What are you guys thinking about the QB situation? Set Smith free and what about Bouman? I think we can do better?

by Jaghomer on Aug 28, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and...

what was with those announcers? You would have thought it was a playoff game? How about some evaluation for _ sake.

by Jaghomer on Aug 28, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Team Looked good for the game before the dress rehersal

if washington is the real game to see a complete gameplan and not just testing things out and evaluating players then we are good shape. I thought Groves had a big night he had that batted pass and would have blown up that play that got ran back on the lateral for a score so he was sound and Mathis is a beast he is not getting enuf love at corner overall i liked the teams toughness and ferocity the screen to MJD are gonna be huge this season the Oline looked alittle shaky but will settle on Tra Thomas to start at LT nad go form there we’ll be fine opening day in INDY… GO JAGS!

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by TheAutumnWind on Aug 28, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hell yeah

that game gets me excited out there…i like how we are improving every week…that’s all i can ask for from these guys…

in other news i don’t know how many times i heard the “jag-wires” from the eagles announcers on nfl replay…they also managed to say “terry” holt and maurice drew-jones at points…but you know what, i kinda like being under the radar…this group may surprise some teams this year…

by jlana24 on Aug 28, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You almost nailed it...

…but Tkopa, I know you’re BCC royalty, yet you’re glazing over of MJD’s backup, Chauncey Washington, was hasty and incorrect. Washington produces consistent forward movement and elusive, yet slow-to-develop running patterns. He’s the Jaguars’ version of LenDale White, and he deserves all the playing time he gets. How do you miss that? I can’t be alone on that observation.

And by insulting all the backups to the now wealthy MJD, you also overlooked Josh Vaughan and his ability to keep a large pile of men moving forward towards the first down marker. Sorry to lay a pickle on your Jag-burger, but comprehensiveness must be given a nod.

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by arthardie on Aug 28, 2009 4:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not even in an imaginary world do I qualify as royalty - but thank you.

As for comprehensiveness, I use the 80% rule and leave room for more in the comments. The truth is, in a blog I just start the story and everyone else joins in to finish it. What you are doing is great and welcomed.

The Chauncey Washington performance however, was not mentioned on purpose. I have simply not warmed up to him yet. If you have good run blocking, anyone could do what he did. However, I will give him this, he did a good imitation of MJD verses Shawn Merryman when he blocked Nate Cole.

To be honest, I am waiting for Justin Fargas to be released from the Raiders and picked up by the Jaguars. Then I would consider MJD as having a capable backup. Yikes, now I will hear from the Chauncy supporters when I meant to write a positive post. Oh well.

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all for good backups

but if they come from Oakland….

I think Vaughan, Hughes, Russell, and Brackenridge have pretty much locked up a PS and are almost there in making a roster spot. It’ll be tough making the decisions on who goes, and who stays but its a good problem.

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 28, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey check this out:

 
From the very last play:
“Just watched the final play with the video staff at the stadium. Folks, we could have history. 15 people touched the ball. 15 people touched the ball and play lasted 42 seconds. 19-year video director Mike Perkins says it could be the longest play in NFL history.By the way, in 42 seconds the play only covered 19 yards.”

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 28, 2009 5:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Defense

Loved what I saw out of the defense! I may have to watch it again… but I could have sworn that most success came out of the 3-4 fronts as opposed to the 4-3 front. If that is true, we may be seeing a change in our base package… I think they stopped using the 3-4 front midway through the 3rd qtr once the backups started to be insterted. Pressure wasn’t the same & allowed Kolb to get comfortable for the comeback. According to what I’ve read from other writers, the Jags used mostly a 3-4 in Miami & 4-3 at home vs the Bucs, with the defense rated higher vs Miami than the Bucs…

Next week, we’ll show even more improvement, but lose by 1 again so we don’t ruin the streak! lol

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by JagsNguyen on Aug 28, 2009 6:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We may just have to give up that 4th rd pick...

by the end of the game after seeing Bouman & Smith play, I was ready to give Kansas our 4th rd pick like they wanted for Thigpen… I don’t think there will be a QB worth taking in these 1st cuts & I’d really like for the QB we do pick up get at least a preseason game under our system.

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by JagsNguyen on Aug 28, 2009 7:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Actually they wanted a 3rd rounder for him sorry i know we need a backup QB bad but not for a 3rd rounder. Lets see who comes on the market when the supply is plush the price will drop

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 28, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about taking Tim Tebow with our first pick next year?

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 7:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I am just instigating

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know you're being a smart a** with that one - he simply doesn't have NFL game

That being said, I bet we DO draft him. The gator fan first crowd will be disappointed that he won’t be a first rounder. More like a 3rd rounder, but the Jags may step up to ensure they get him. Purely a “we’ll do anything to get this $%^%#%^ city to support their own damn team” move.

by OGN on Aug 28, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would make us desperate - Like the Vikings

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep - and I think they are a little desparate at 1 Stadium Place RE: attendance issue

The lack of support gets mentioned virtually all the time in any and every broadcast, radio show, you name it. The Jags are almost always thrown into the "who’s going to LA’ conversation that pops up each year. I think it’s a real issue. To much smoke for there not to be at least a little fire.

by OGN on Aug 28, 2009 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ps - I live in Raleigh NC and I can accurately report that

the lack of support for the Jags even gets mentioned here on local sports talk radio.

by OGN on Aug 28, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call in and report this ...

The problem with Jacksonville is the girls are so beautiful and friendly and there are so many of them that football needs to be very exciting to overcome natural attraction. This might explain the why the Carolina Panthers are so popular, they don’t have the same problem.

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The girls are good

 I’m in that Tebow fanclub/koolaid drinker thing. I would love us to draft him and we can all argue, he ha no game and the reverse he’ll buy tickets. I’d love to see him still there by the 3rd round but not sure if that’ll happen. I hope we trade some players for a 2nd round pick too.

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 28, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many of you cringed

when Garrard was show laying on the ground?I dunno bout you but I saw us being the 09’ Lions after seeing that.

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by JagsNguyen on Aug 28, 2009 8:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

If the game stopped at 32-20, then the team would get an A+ from me

That being said, I still liked what I saw from that team. The 1st team defense set the tone vs the Eagles offense and the 1st team offense finally showed signs of life.

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by FSBlueApocalypse on Aug 28, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for running the thread

The excitement jumped off the page with the comments.

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess you’re going with the less is more approach here…

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~Carl Sagan

by JLydon37 on Aug 28, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Vae Victis!

by viator on Aug 28, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like

even though this was a loss i liked what i saw

First team D played classic Jags D tough hard nose in your face

Secondary needs to be cleaned up got torched on passing too much

Offense did good need to work on ball security a little more

We need help in the backup QB dept

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Different Team With Jones Drew On the Field

When Jones Drew is on the field the entire offense plays much better. All of a sudden the defense has to defend the run and we have seen how tough it is to tackle him. I think the offense will be ok this season, I am more concerned about the secondary and back up QB situation. This did not look like the same team that played against Miami or Tampa, which shows that they are improving with every game. I think this season could be something special if a few players get hot.

by Kingfysh on Aug 28, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to have to digest this game

My first impression was that this team did little to squash the concerns going into the regular season. The interior o-line is still a problem. DG, as noted, is inconsistent but this guy isn’t a Peyton level player so some of his failings get amplified. Defensive pressure is there but they still aren’t getting to the QB with 4 rushers which is a problem. 3rd down conversions and penalties are a big problem. Watching Kolb lead the Eagles down the field is a prime example of how one team can execute through basic play calling. This team has a long way to go. There were some small victories last night but the key to this team is not the highlight reel. The key is consistency and thus far only the negatives have been the consistent part.

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by bwfull on Aug 28, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

very interesting take.

In addition to consistency I’d add progression / improvement as another key to this season. I think so far we have seen improvement. I’d like to see this continue with an emphasis on developing our young talent.

You’re correct in that the overall play remains inconsistent which has been a hallmark of the JDR coaching era (keep chopping foot). At some point, Gene will address this.

by OGN on Aug 28, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The funny thing is Hansen (our old Punter)

practically chopped off his foot in the locker room lol.

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 28, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I liked best...

was how the defense played in the red zone and also how we blitzed repeatedly with linebackers and secondary, even though we didn’t get sacks we flustered Mc Nabb on several occasions. Has our linebacker corps ever been any deeper? Allen is a player.

by Jaggernaut on Aug 28, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I noticed...

Greg Jones is not a Tailback…which I have been saying forever.

The Backup LBs looked better than the starters.

The interior line for the offense doesn’t look that great.

Garrard holds on the ball too long.

Garrard is going back to bad habits with his drop back causing him to miss wide open guys downfield.

He should have hit Williamson on a couple of plays but he overshot him.

Vick played well in his few snaps…still has a laser.

by Slvrgun on Aug 28, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome game!!!!!!!!!!

I thought the new defensive fronts were great. Way better than the traditional 4-3 scheme we are used to running. Ohhhhh the confusion!!!!!!!!!!! I loved it.

On that punt that Spoonie ran up to catch….. He waived for a fair catch!!!!!!!! Watch the game again….. he waived and then asked for a flag when he was tackled.

I like Chauncey…..but i didnt like that fumble at all. Overall I think he is our best bet at #2. Man I wish we had someone else more explosive though……. Where the hell are you Rashad???

Did anybody see Ernest on the field????

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by FRANKdubz on Aug 28, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Spoonie was waving a fair catch, then I need to give him more credit

I am having trouble letting go of the out of bounds at the three kick off mistake. I love him but he is still a risk.

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by Tkopa on Aug 29, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol yeah.......

That is completely unacceptable, but in this particular game, Spoonman was good. He is still a young guy and he is not as wise as he should be. I have seen him make alot of bad mistakes, but the boy is fast and could potentially be a great returner…….I hope he gets all that crap out of his system before we go to Indy…………

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by FRANKdubz on Aug 29, 2009 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can tell he's

still getting smarter. He’s making fewer mistakes and he’s going up the middle more. Also becoming an asset at CB.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 29, 2009 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that sentiment

Last year he kicked the ball out of bounds at a similar spot on the field. At the time I was frustrated but I realized he was just a rookie and that he’ll get over these mistakes. But then he makes nearly the same exact mistake this year. The way Underwood and Hughes have been returning kicks makes me think Spoon’s chances are dwindling.

by SoCalStites on Aug 29, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great insight from everyone.

Two things stood out for me, one good, one not. The good was the pressure we got on their QBs. Our guys were flying in from everywhere, imaginative blitz packages, stunting LBs, it was awesome. We definitely have the athletes for the 3-4. What I didn’t understand was why we called off the dogs in the final quarter; we could have seriously rattled their back-up and gave him far too much time. We’d have won the game if we’d gone after him.

The bad was Garrard. He overthrew three wide open receivers, including Williamson on the first play of the game for what would have been a 30 yard gain. A top-tier QB just can’t do that. He didn’t appear to be looking off defenders, or going to anyone except Troy and Torry. And he still tends to hold the ball too long.

Overall, though, very encouraging. The Deadskins can’t get here soon enough!

by ruffdaddy on Aug 28, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

protection

it all starts up front. Garrard is getting his groove back. As the season progresses those throws will get better. The int of our line has got to hold up so that Garrard knows that he will have the time to throw

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 28, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could it be that

the outer part of the o-line has become so stout that teams attacking middle more or the interior isn’t fully recovered from last year’s injuries? I think DT, QB & G/C will be what Jags will be focusing on for next year’s draft or FA.

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by JagsNguyen on Aug 28, 2009 3:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Could it be they were deteriorating in 2007 and no one noticed?

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by Tkopa on Aug 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In reality

I just think Vinny and Uche are just rusty. And when I went to go watch some 07/early 08 tape, Vince Manuwai was never really good at pass blocking. And as good as his run blocking is, I think it’s a little overrated. He was great when you needed a 3 or 4 yards, but the homerun run blocker was actually Mo Williams, but he was a little less consistent in getting you at least 3-4 yards. Personally I still think we should take advantage of Mo’s pass blocking background and put him at LG and then move Vince to RG where he can do his damage run blocking. And on goal line situations we can even bring in Uche at Mo’s spot.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 28, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In addition

I think Vince is still getting used to his knee and lower weight.

Personally I don’t really like Vince’s effort. He doesn’t play all the way to the whistle. Tra Thomas is the same way. They both do what they are supposed to do, but they aren’t out to dominate people even though they can at times.

Uche is similar to Britton who likes to dominate to the whistle. But at the same time, it sometimes takes a little away from their primary job because they get overaggressive early.

There is a good mix here, depending on what you want to do. Finesse or aggressiveness is the question the team has to ask itself when determining who it prefers.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 28, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

But on the other side of the coin from what i see they are scared of getting hurt before the season starts. Lets see how their effort goes into the regular season then go from there

by jesusjagfan2009 on Aug 28, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garrard will have more time

when we get back to more run vs pass. That’ll keep the opposing D a little more honest anyway.

by Pyrofish on Aug 28, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point...

and with they run the screen with MJD, which is like an extension of the running game, it’ll open up both the running and passing game. Also, the O line will play better once they figure out where everyone is playing.

by Jaggernaut on Aug 28, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This entire review was written under a single context

I thought Philly was the class of the tough NFC East and we were going to be eaten alive. To actually stand with them and punch them in the mouth a few times made me proud. In truth, if this was starters against starters in a real game, it would have been competitive. I’m afraid David would have probably given the game away.

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by Tkopa on Aug 29, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think

David needs a little time to get in a rhythm. He’s got new receivers, new OL, everyone is being penalized causing drives to be stalled and creating lots of third and longs which statistically are much much much harder to convert, not to mention a couple dropped passes that would have been nice gainers.)
The opposing defense was also blitzing like crazy. A couple more screens would have slowed them down. I also can’t imagine their starters could have kept that up for a whole game.
The OL also obviously needs time to get into a rhythm, as they obviously get better as the game wears on.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 29, 2009 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tkopa

You wanna bash garrard when he took two hard shots? both of which he completed for good gains? He is a monster and you cant blame anything on him. Its our int.line thats a piece of shit.

by harveyismyboy on Aug 29, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry i missed out on the conversation
  1. on defense impressed me late, DT i believe

Paul Smith is terrilbe

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by Surteal on Aug 29, 2009 5:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thank you

i’ll remember his name

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by Surteal on Aug 29, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad

someone else noticed him too. Having Big John, Landri, Knighton, Ellison, and Stanley makes Meier a player looking for another job. IMO he’s only the 6th best of those players mentioned, and I believe the second best paid. This is not including Jervonte Jackson.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 30, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

off to MN who has some suspended DT's

or is supposed to

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by Surteal on Sep 2, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Studs of the game:

John Henderson
Derrick Harvey
Quentin Groves bull rush is improving drastically
Brian Iwih OBVIOUSLY
Reshean Mathis
Tyrone Brackenridge will make roster not only for ST he played good D
Eben Britton

A negative I noticed was Monroe seemed to be beaten alot on bull rushes, I think he isnt sinking his hips as good as he can right now. Still a stud though.

by Jermaside4 on Aug 29, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually

Groves’ bull rush has always been pretty darn good. I don’t know why so many people haven’t noticed it. It’s like people just ignore it because he’s undersized.

by Ewdtrey on Aug 30, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its the same with hype

they repeat what they hear without forming an opinion

the loudest man is king when ignorance prevails

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by Surteal on Sep 2, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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