Jaguars @ Colts: The War Room
Welcome to the inaugural edition of a new feature here on The Big Cat, The War Room. Each week, we'll take a look at what game-plan the Jaguars will likely employ to counter the anticipated attack of their opponents. Here is where we'll argue, debate, and try to decipher the necessary approach to defeating our enemy... Welcome to our little bunker... Welcome to The War Room.
The Week's Quote: "The only place success comes before work, is in the dictionary." - Vince Lombardi
Defeating the Jaguars' long-time nemesis this Sunday won't be easy, and having a brilliant plan in place is a prerequisite to success. The effectiveness of the Jaguars' offense will rely as much on the performance of the rookie tackles, as it will on Dirk Koetter's play calling. Derek Cox and Derrick Harvey are the keys defensively; both will need big games.
Jacksonville's Offense:
Look for the Jaguars to game-plan around the Colts devastating DE duo. Expect RB's to chip the edge rushers on flare outs, and expect the Jaguars to employ a TE on one side or the other consistently. Don't expect the Jaguars to be able to run the ball as well as they have in the past either. Meester is one year older, and our interior linemen have struggled much of the preseason. Mo Williams is the starter at RG and is better at pass blocking than opening holes. Manuwai needs to show up and have a big game, he hasn't looked 100% from his injury suffered last season.
Look for the I-formation to be utilized quite a bit in the running attack, and look for screen passes and draws to continue be utilized regularly, both to get MJD the ball as much as possible, and to help combat the pass-rush. If the Jaguars are able to establish the running game early, then the offensive playbook will be wide open and we can all expect to see some big passes on play-action fakes. Bob Sanders is injured again for this game, and the defense plays the run differently when he's not on the field.
Look for David Garrard to have some fun with his new best friend, Torry Holt. Holt is the Jaguars go-to guy without question, and I expect him to explode out of the gates. Later on in the season is when I look for him to begin to wear down, but he should be expected to continue to be the consummate professional. This guy is the best WR we've had since Jimmy Smith, without a doubt. Now, let's see him do it in teal.
Jacksonville's Defense:
Sunday needs to be Derrick Harvey's coming-out party. Tony Ugoh, the LT the Colts traded a first-round pick to select in the second-round of the 2007 NFL Draft, has been demoted. Former guard, Charlie Johnson, has taken his place at the LT spot, and this is a prime opportunity for Harvey to face relatively weaker competition. Harvey needs to come up in a big way for the Jaguars to stop Peyton Manning. Without pressure, even Mathis will eventually get beat. Expect to see a lot of base defense against the Colts, especially early on. The Jaguars will likely want to see if they can stop the run and get pressure with their front seven, if they are consistently bringing in Considine to help in run defense, we'll be in trouble.
I doubt we'll see the 3-4 utilized nearly as much as the base and nickel defense is used. The team knows Peyton is too smart to fall for trickery unless he's facing pressure. If the team can't get pressure with the defensive line, then we'll see some zone-blitzing, with linemen occasionally dropping into coverage. I'll tell you this much though, smoke and mirrors won't beat Peyton. You have to knock the man down to beat him.
Derek Cox will get burned some on Sunday, the question is, how much? We need at least adequate play from Cox, because the Colts receiving unit is still scary. Dallas Clark, Reggie Wayne, and Anthony Gonzales are all legitimate play-makers, and covering them throughout the game is going to be difficult without pressure on the QB, which is why Derrick Harvey is such a key component of this game.
The Jaguars have had an absolutely brutal training camp; they've put in the work necessary, will success follow suit?
-Collin Streetman
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3-4
I actually have a feeling well see more 3-4 looks… we had a lot more success in bringing pressure all pre-season in this scheme. I think they’ll come out swinging with the 3-4 to confuse Manning & go back to the 4-3 more in red zone situation like they have been in the pre-season.
I also expect Jennings to surprise us with a run for a TD. Maybe ge can pound some Colts like he did to the Redskins game…
Go Jaguars!!!!
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by JagsNguyen on Sep 11, 2009 4:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Great coment!
exactly what I am looking for with this column… we’re all some of the most football savvy fans on the net, and we should debate and argue over our position…
I think what you saw alot, which I still think we’ll see, is a 4-3 defense with a DE standing up. We still have 4 guys in there listed as D-linemen, but we see a lot more movement and confusion prior to the play than we used to, and we see our ends standing up rushing some plys, down rushing some plays, and standing and dropping into short zones on other plays…
on a zone blitz you expect the QB to hit a hot read, and you hope the d-lieman drops right into where that read is supposed to go and the QB doesn’t see him drop. That’s the ideal situation for the Zone scheme to work. Also, it puts the defensive lineman in a good position to stop a screen or flare pattern to the RB.
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by silencecs on Sep 11, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what your saying
cause me being a little OCD thought the line wasn’t completely centered when I saw what I thought was a 3-4. In regards to the DE standing up… Manning has a tendency to throw quick passes (sometimes w/o even stepping back after the snap) to catch the defense off guard & hoping the target does the rest. I heard a analyst once say that Manning struggles the most vs a 3-4 and the time it takes for a 4-3 end to stand up could be the difference when he tries to throw throw these quick passes.
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by JagsNguyen on Sep 11, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but we're gonna be blitzing more, I think. Well, I hope.
That’s what I’m seeing that I like about this years defense. We’re attacking. Whether it be on a blitz at the quarterback or our linemen and linebackers attacking the ball carrier. We’re a swarming defense this year. It hasn’t been like that in a few years. I’m excited man.
by Blair72 on Sep 11, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About the 3-4...
It’s not really a 3-4. It a zone-blitzing 4-3 with an end that is standing up looking to either blitz or go into coverage. If you think about it, really nothing like the 3-4. More like a modified 4-3.
by Slvrgun on Sep 12, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think of it as a modified 3-4
becuase there’s actually 4 “linebackers” (Groves is a tweener) and 3 D lineman.
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 12, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
Slvr, I think you are mixing 2 things up. They are in a 3-4, it just so happens to be that often times they’ve been sending zone blitzes. That’s one of the advantages of a 3-4. You don’t lose as much coverage because the OLB’s can be dropped back. It’s still a totally a 3-4, because a 3-4 is just a look/personnel package.
In a 4-3 you have to scrafice a lot more coverage on zone blitzes because generally speaking DE’s are not as good at covering nor are they in position to cover while in their 3 point stance.
by Ewdtrey on Sep 12, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to know...
I would like to know why they NEVER say anything about the jags on the NFL network – Playbook? Does anyone else feel the same way?
by shortjag on Sep 13, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can understand how
they wouldn’t be talking about us (unless it’s about blackouts) at this time. We’ve got a bunch of new players, a new defensive philosophy, and maybe new offensive philosophy as well. Can’t analyze something that they really haven’t seen yet… I expect to see us on Playbook after this weekend though. IMO this 1st week is going to be the most interesting for all of the AFC South because each team had some sort of coaching changes… mainly defensive coordinators.
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by JagsNguyen on Sep 13, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colts secondary
… is a little dinged up right now, and I think we need to try and take advantage of that. I understand the need to control the clock and keep Manning off the field, but I think it would be a mistake to be too conservative with the play calling.
by KeithG on Sep 11, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. One of their CB's missed the whole preseason, which is why I think Holt will have a big game...
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by silencecs on Sep 11, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I’ve read sooo much about how Manning is going to try and “target” Cox… and have yet to see anyone talk about Holt exploting a weakend Colt’s secondary. Don’t the colt’s also have a rookie CB starting?
by KeithG on Sep 11, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn spelling
should read “exploiting a weakened Colt’s secondary”
by KeithG on Sep 11, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I'm trying to find who the other starter is... one guy is injured and like listed as 3rd string based on injury.
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by silencecs on Sep 11, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here we go... scout .com says.
—Rookie CB Jerraud Powers is expected to make his first NFL start Sunday if Jackson does not begin the game at right cornerback. Should Powers end up in the starting lineup, he would be the first rookie cornerback to start the opening game for the Colts since Ashley Ambrose in 1992.
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by silencecs on Sep 11, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Powers got the jump on the vet backups because he played a mix of zone and man in college
so he’s in better position to run the tweaked D that Coyer put in.
Hayden is fine by all accounts. His hamstring got a good tweaking early in preseason and they held him out the rest of the way. He’s been back at practice for two weeks now.
Marlin Jackson is coming off an ACL tear last year and didn’t play until late in preseason. He’s only playing in the nickel until his knee gets stronger and conditioning gets better.
Unless the changes made to the D were much bigger than advertised I wouldn’t expect success on deep passes. The Colts have been among the best in the league at preventing the big pass for a long time because that’s what the Cover-2 is designed to stop, and no one played more cover 2 than Indy under Dungy.
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by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
..for the in-depth info on those guys. It’s always nice to “know your enemy” a little better before matches. I guess we will just have to wait and see how it all pans out on Sunday.
One thing I’ve noticed about the “average” colt fan is that they consider their team to be made up entirely of pro-bowlers, even the rookies. If you listened to them, you would figure no team could possible attain more than 1, maybe 2, first downs against them in an entire game… and Manning and his offense are absolutely unstoppable. I guess this is what a sustained period of major success does to the average fan.
I enjoy your posts/comments because you at least use a set of facts to back up your point of view. I still hope you are wrong, though :)
by KeithG on Sep 12, 2009 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, thats pretty much it
inflatable fans
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 12, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by silencecs on Sep 11, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the new segment Collin
My thoughts: best defense is offense. We must keep Peyton Manning on the sidelines.
I hope the Jags can produce at least 1 loooooong drive.
Vic said 1 thing: if the Jaguarsattempt to throw 30+ times, the Jags will lose, if they Jags attempt less then that, they will win. The Colts must guessing what the Jags wants in offense. If the rookie tackles can handle the 2 best defensive weapon Mathis and Freeney. If they can do that, then I think the Jaguars might have a chance to make a surprise on Sunday! (and of course run the ball-as Vic like to say)
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 11, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the bomb goes for a TD, then do it
you can’t play safe every drive, do Ball control with surprises.
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 12, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I look for Quentin Groves to get atleast 1 sack
I think he is going to be spending a lot of time standing up like a line backer and with the disfuction on the colts Oline I look for him to turn the corner a couple times and use his freakish speed to take down Manning. I also think we will be seeing a lot of Clint Ingram and Daryl Smith on gap blitzes to put as much pressure on as possible. I think Mercedes Lewis is likely going to be spending a lot of time assisting Monroe and especially Britton.
GO JAGS!
by Jermaside4 on Sep 11, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quentin or Daryl
will prob blitz alot against LT .
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 12, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts
1.) Derek Cox. I think it was actually a positive and a negative that he didn’t get extensive playing time in the preseason. Experience is valuable, but without Manning being able to game plan against him, Cox has the upper hand until halftime. At halftime, of course Manning will make the necessary adjustments.
2.) Our tackle play will be crucial, because we need a running attack to set up play-action. I would expect the first play of the game to actually be play-action looking for Troy deep. I think the Colts will be expecting it too, though. We’ll get a good gauge on where our offense is in the first series of the game. If Dirk comes out with the offense in 3 or 4-wide sets on Sunday, then we will know our offensive philosophy of pounding the ball up the middle is a thing of the past. I do expect us to keep it pretty even in the play calling, but I think, as does everyone else on this site mainly, that our offense will be much more wide open this season. We finally have some receivers to catch the ball, it seems.
3.) MJD needs to have a good showing this weekend. No more excuses. Hurt or not, you have your contract. Now earn it.
4.) I want to see sacks. I think we will blitz more than usual instead of the soft cover two shell or whatever its called. Look for the 3-4 variants. I want to see if the defense is transitioning from the old 4-3 we have always run.
5.) Linebacker play is key. We can’t have those outside runs along the sidelines in the flats. We seem faster on defense, so that should help.
6.) Our secondary will get burned a few times, but if we get a couple of picks, I’ll be more than happy. How our secondary adjusts and stays in the game through a little adversity will show us a lot.
I could go all day, but I’m done. There’s quite a few things to look for this Sunday. However, I hope everyone just enjoys the game. We don’t need to always break everything down. Other people are paid to do that. Let’s just get a WIN!
Titans are 0-1. That’s a good start to our season already.
by Blair72 on Sep 11, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3.
I don’t ever remember MJD giving any excuses.
by Ewdtrey on Sep 12, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same
He’ll play and play good.
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 12, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are finally back - and what a pleasure that is to see!
You called out the game in a wonderful way. I had just hung up the phone with John and was writing his thoughts down when I read your peice. It is a great compliment piece.
One thing I want to see, Peyton yelling at someone. That will tell me all I need to know.
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by Tkopa on Sep 11, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Offense
I really don’t think the I formation is going to be the norm anymore. All signs point that way, this is no longer a run first team, even against the Colts. It should also be mentioned that the Colts have gotten a lot bigger in the interior of their defensive line; couple that with our aging interior, and running the ball 40 times a game doesn’t sound so great.
The Colts are missing both starting safeties and a cornerback. Spread out the field and look to play to your opponents weakness, not your supposed strength.
I don’t think Cox is going to get burned. Beat yes, but not burned. He is going to make mistakes, but both him and us as fans don’t have to turn over and accept bad plays. The defense is fine.
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by Bestjagfan on Sep 12, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We're in agreement in regards to the passing game. I've said I expect Holt to show up in a big way.
Who’s your “guy to watch” for this Sunday? I haven’t heard many people talk or worry about Considine, I’ll be interested to see how he performs.
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by silencecs on Sep 12, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Sims-Walker
I’ve been kidnapped and am on the bandwagon.
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by Bestjagfan on Sep 12, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kidnapped indeed,
I’ll watch the Safeties (Considine, Nelson, Alexander, whoever) if they are in run defense that could mean more faith for Derek Coxs, if they all are holding back more then either we have good pressure or need for more coverage. I think the Colts try to use Donald Brown as a MJD secret weapon kind of thing, like very delayed dump offs, etc.
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 12, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Harvey and Cox need to have more than good games. They need hold their own on Sunday and every other game this year. One as a foundation for the future. Two to set and example for others to follow and three to win games.
If Harvey has his coming out year it will be one of the greatest things that could happen to our defense to become one of the elites.
Just think about it. Harvey with consistant pressure demanding a double team to his side as well as Henderson. WOW is all I can say. That frees up alot of talented players to make moves!
by REALITYITIS on Sep 12, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That helps the Linebakcers when they decide to blitz
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 12, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is this??
I would like to know why they NEVER say anything about the jags on the NFL network – Playbook? Does anyone else feel the same way?
by shortjag on Sep 13, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I definitely
feel the same way. I don’t understand it. I think if you go back, for the last 2 years I don’t think Baldinger has picked us to win even one game. I think he even had us losing to the Raiders late in 07 when we stomped them and we were on a winning streak, and I think we had been leading the league in points scored the 4 or so games leading up to the Raiders.
But to be somewhat fair. We have a very basic playbook normally. Run it up the middle, then to the left, then to the right PA, over the top.
I wonder if they even knew that we starting TWO rook OT’s, not to mention the rook CB and DT. I think the only “highlight” of our offense was to show the Colts stopping us on a draw. I think I can think of plenty of plays that they could have highlighted from our preseason; like maybe the deep passes to Troy, or the nice outside passes to Holt. I mean, we are a much better team this year and we beat the Colts half the time last year. I wonder if they even saw one of our games this preseason. I know Theisman saw us, but he probably brushed off our performance because we were supposedly playing a lot more starters.
by Ewdtrey on Sep 13, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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