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Initial Thoughts – Jags and Colts... WE WERE IN THIS GAME!


Someone write a good game summary please, I am confused. Maybe after I look over my notes and think about it I can come up with a good analysis. Right now I came away more confused than anything.

Here is what confused me most - WE ALMOST WON THIS GAME!!!.

We could have WON THIS GAME!!!

We were a two point conversion away from sending this game into OVERTIME!

We give the Colts 8 more minutes of possession; they run 70 offensive plays to our 55 offensive plays. Peyton Manning throws for 300 yards, and the defense gives up 365 total yards and WE WERE STILL IN THE GAME! The Colts went left, went right, went up the middle and only produced 14 points. I'm confused, is this a good defense or not?

I am not confused by Justin Durant. He played a pro-bowl game today. Run to the left, Durant makes the stop, run to the right, Durant makes the stop. The decision to make him the middle linebacker was correct. In fact, I thought the linebackers played great, Daryl Smith included.

 

Star-divide

I am confused by our play selection. Maurice Jones Drew up the middle. Maurice Jones Drew up the middle. Maurice Jones Drew off left tackle. Delayed handoff to Maurice Jones Drew. When they said he was an every down back I guess they were serious.

The problem I think was Eugene Monroe having a rookie day against a pro-bowl Defensive End. Well, Eben Britton faced the same challenge and actually held on better. I don't believe Eugene Monroe beat out Tra Thomas for the job and the decision to start him needs to be reconsidered, in my opinion. But, maybe this is the learning curve he needs to climb. Hey, I just watch, David is the one who feels it.

That confused me too. David was on the run for his life today and took one sack. ONE SACK! The Jaguars couldn't hold people off of David and yet they produced drive after drive. David could not feel safe in the pocket today and that caused the passing game to be pulled back. If we didn't run it, we threw short and then ran it. This will need to be fixed. And yet, with all of these limitations WE WERE STILL IN THE GAME! We managed a meager 228 yards and... (we were still in the game)

Derek Cox got beat, we all knew he would, but I still say he had a good game. I like him a lot and think by week 6 he will be even better. Sean Considine, if he could catch the ball, would have had a huge day. REGGIE, REGGIE, you had a fantastic first half, showing up and making hits, but he got you again. Peyton in the huddle, "bait Reggie on two break". I actually think the tackling and swarming was a lot better this year.

What are my initial thoughts? It is what we all thought, a young team with key positions filled by rookies. Will they get better? I think that is what coaches are there to help do. How did they do today? I don't know, you tell me, I'm confused.

- Terry O'Brien

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I'll have a summary up in a little bit, I'm Two-Faced as well

"It's always funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's just hilarious."-Bill Hicks

by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 13, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm confused myself. No help here.

I need to rewatch the game before I could tell you anything.

by Blair72 on Sep 13, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

If only we had gotten that 63 yard FG

I think Tra won the job but got jipped. But o well we play pretty good for a rebuilding team

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by TheTealDeal on Sep 13, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Defense showed signs.

It certainly wasn’t a great game defensively, but I loved the way they swarmed and tackled. The effort was there. We were just getting picked apart on 3rd downs. The Colts were 8/14 on third downs.

Really the only thing that scares me about our defense is the lack of pass rush. If we don’t blitz, we don’t get pressure. We will need more from our DEs than we got today.

by jimbrophoto on Sep 13, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

At one stage

the colts were 6/6 on 3rd downs, our started to get some stops in the 2nd half.

On the whole, I thought there were some very positive signs… and some disturbing ones too. Our offense really worries me. MJD looks good, but we need other guys to step up (or get the chance to).

What’s the deal with Harvey and Groves? They don’t really seem like a 1st and a 2nd round pick to me :(

by KeithG on Sep 13, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harvey = not good

Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis

by hoosier in sodak on Sep 13, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harvey = terrible

I don’t know why he didn’t play more, but if this is all we can expect it’s a huge hit. I really expected him to step up this year. IMHO he’s one of the biggest stories of this game, and one that really surprised me (in a bad way).

Add onto this the fact that Heywood went down… ouch. Your 2009 DE? Groves & Williams?

by alsonot on Sep 14, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The funny thing is Harvey doesn't know why he didn't play more

and jack Del Ro doesn’t know why he didn’t play more.

If he is benched in the first game, why was he a starter? I am confused by that as well;.

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by Tkopa on Sep 14, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what Vic is hinting at

Was Harvey refusing to come back in the game? That’s about the only thing I can think of.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 14, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

John henderson loved being on the end

and it inspired great play. Maybe we stumbled into something?

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by Tkopa on Sep 14, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't know whether he;s good or not......

He hardly played and he’s better than last year.

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by TheTealDeal on Sep 14, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need to know

that the Colts were bad and we were lucky
OR thje arrow is really pointing up.
Hats off to: Maurice Drew, Derek Cox, Justin Durant
Needs to work: O-line, Passing game, Some people at the secondary

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 13, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Terry, would you be upset if I scheduled my game summary for 8pm?

"It's always funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's just hilarious."-Bill Hicks

by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 13, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think he would

neither I or anyone at BCC

By the way did someone see that unbelivable TD of the Broncos? Why we not have luck like that?

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 13, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i saw it

I think Greg Camarillo of the dolphins also had a nice catch

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by TheTealDeal on Sep 13, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Tom Brady is better than Manning

yep i said it.

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by TheTealDeal on Sep 14, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No John - Go ahead

I wanted to get some initial thoughts out, but i didn’t do anything of substance.

If you have insight, go for it.

 - Terry

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by Tkopa on Sep 13, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blah...

The End Is Nigh... www.infowars.com

by silencecs on Sep 13, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

On the bright side Arizona is blowing chunks

and Warner is like under 150 yards passing with an INT.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 13, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing I saw today....

dampens my optimism and enthusiasm for this team, just the opposite. The play calling could have been better(too many 3rd and longs) but the athleticism and effort was great. That was the best game I ever saw Justin Durrant have and the entire defense played tough even though they gave up big numbers in the passing game, but it was the Colts. The win would have been nice but the game gave me confidence that we can play anyone tough.

by Jaggernaut on Sep 13, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Holding a team to under 250 yards is a great defensive showing

Do the Colts have a great defense?

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by Tkopa on Sep 13, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

not traditionally

but with Coyer as the new DC, it’s been expected that we would mix it up a bit

FWIW, I thought you guys were in it until the very end, and – to quote Lombardi – you just ran out of time. MJD looked good and Garrard had a few good escapes.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Sep 13, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your blitzing was good

our blocking was bad to quote your peyton manning, Its that simple.

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by TheTealDeal on Sep 13, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts...

- I think Tra won the starting job… seeing him on the injury report with a back injury makes me think it’s a lot worse than what’s being reported and thus Monroe starts. Also probably why we (or at least I myself) didn’t see Tra come in for a substiution. Though Garrard only got sacked once, he had a lot of pressure up in his face.

- Tackling was much better, except for Nelson… he did make some tackles but looked like he was dragging people down more than knocking them down. I just don’t understand… first year he comes out, he’s laying the wood… after year 2 he can only do dragging tackles.

- Colts ST won them the game by pinning us next to the goal line in the 4th… w/o that we would’ve had a much better chance to make it down the field for another Scobee field goal FTW

In the face of adversity, what you do from then on dictates who you really are...

by JagsNguyen on Sep 13, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

All good intelligent points!

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by Tkopa on Sep 14, 2009 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's only up from here

I feel like this team has got nowhere to go but up. Rookies performed admirably for their first time. Cox, Britton and Monroe took on some of the best the NFL has, Freeney Mathis, Wayne and Peyton and they did fairly well. This team will get better and better as our young guys get more snaps under their belt. Unfortunately we don’t have the luxury of time in our schedule so the development will need to be accelerated.

I’ll see you at the Jack in a week!

by rusty904 on Sep 13, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

if if if. if we go by ifs then it goes both ways. if the colts score first, they may turn into a laugher. the jags dominated last year and win one. the colts dominate this one and win. ifs dont count in the win column

I thought derek cox did excellent considering he was covering one of the best recievers in football.

garrard will never lead this team anywhere

the run d was good for you but the colts were on your end of the field the entire day. bend but dont break. this was your superbowl game. sorry but its more than if if if. its who scores more points. even IF its only one

but simply you have no offense. williamson declared for real in preseason once again. forget it. this guy is a waste. you have an old holt and mjd can not be your only source of o. he is going to run out of gas by game 5

this was your superbowl. if as you keep saying you win this one, you have huge momentum going into the rest of the season. but as for the colts, this was a division win and no one game is more important than the other.

good luck the rest of the year

by kinnickcolt on Sep 13, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Not going to include the Jaguars going to LA?

Guess we’re making progress….

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 13, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for stopping by

Did we do something over at you site? Why honor us with a visit?

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by Tkopa on Sep 13, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's the definition of error and idiot

Error
1. a deviation from accuracy or correctness; a mistake, as in action or speech: His speech contained several factual errors.
2. belief in something untrue; the holding of mistaken opinions.
3. the condition of believing what is not true
Idiot
1. an utterly foolish or senseless person. (especially posting that here)

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 13, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Leader of the Run-Paul-Smith-Out-Of-Town Club **--Mission Complete--**
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 13, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was our SuperBowl?

Are you kidding? This was game 1 of a 16 game rebuilding season. We are the 1st team since 1982 to open the regular season with 2 rookies offensive tackles… and going up against two pro-bowl DEs. Add in a rookie CB up against a very good WR, and a rookie DT and I’m suprised we came so close to winning it at all. Either we are better than I expected, or the colts are worse than I thought. I can’t decide which yet… speak again mid-way through the season.

by KeithG on Sep 14, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

you speak as IF your season is in the bag bro...

and you dodged a silver bullet yesterday. See you in December.

by mattarne on Sep 14, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

We'll have the beer ready

and hopefully some better pass blocking

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 14, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

 DOES ANYONE HAVE YAHOO MESSY AND WANT TO PLAY LITERATI???? PLEASE I AM BORED

THE GAME IS LIKE SCRAMBLE
IF SO ADD ME AT CRYSTALSTEVENS88@YAHOO.COM

by Miss.Shortjag on Sep 13, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Our both lines were bad

We lost the game there, we didn’t put the presure, they did. They win.

by Nikola R on Sep 14, 2009 5:55 AM EDT reply actions  

yep except stopping on 4th down was good football

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by Tkopa on Sep 14, 2009 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was cuz of linebackers

but Dts were decent in run stuffing

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
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"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 14, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Like What I Saw...

The Jaguars defense played outstanding in some cases…This was the first real game using the 3-4. We did hold the Colts defense under 100 yard rushing (I remember the Colts saying that they will improve in the area this year)…I know we got torched for 300 yards, but that’s what you expect when Peyton Manning (MVP) has to throw the ball 35+ times to only come away with a 2 point victory at home to a somewhat revamped Jags roster.

With that said, if the Jaguars play defense like they did in the first game, I look for a big season from them.

I expected the rookie tackles to struggle against the Free/Mathis, but when you have your big target TE giving chip blocks that’s a problem. Let’s hope Eugene Monroe improves as the year goes on…

Overall, I expected the Jags to compete and they did. Within the next few weeks, I expect Mike Walker to be in the starting line-up as the Jags need a play maker besides MJD. If he gets the bulk of touches like that, he won’t last the season…

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by ArtoriusG on Sep 14, 2009 6:34 AM EDT reply actions  

The truth spoken here

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by Tkopa on Sep 14, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

too much over-reaction...

The Jags had a good game. Look at the numbers… I mean it’s Payton ‘the devil’ Manning for cripe sake. We had him on his heels. I’ll take this ‘Bend don’t Break’ defense over that mess they were putting on the field last year any day of the week! and here’s the thing with E. Monroe and the rest of the rookies. You make the decision and you have to live by it. Getting all waffley and pulling players and rotating is going to do nothing but promote negativity. Yeah, I thought Tra was the better pick to start, but the coaching staff must have saw something that said it was close enough to get this guy some baptism by fire. I would be almost willing to bet Eugene will get the better of Sweeny next time.

If in Dec. 2008 you said the Jags would lose the opener to Indy 12-14 I would have thought you neded your head examined. The arrow is pointing up on this franchise. Enjoy the growth!

by Jaghomer on Sep 14, 2009 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

the truth about our D today is that

Reggie Nelson is STILL a liability in coverage…He got beat bad by reggie wayne in the 3rd quarter. He is great in run support but gets crispy in coverage. Considine had to cover nelsons butt way to much.
I have to agree with Terry that this game was ours to lose. Even with 2 rookie tackles, we were still in this game. It came down to the last drive. Our D stuffed Manning with 1:50 or so to go and it was 4 straight passing attempts. If ever there was a spot for the delay to MJD it was then. I think 2 minute drills with be the emphasis of practice the next couple of practices. I also think that the wildcat two point conversion was a HORRIBLE play call.
That being said, I still like the direction that the Jags are going… Barring injury, our O line will be getting the time it needs to gel in the next weeks and will be DOMINANT.

by mattarne on Sep 14, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

we have

the best linebackers in the business this year. I’m sure by the end of the year a lot more people will agree with me. Terrance Knighton didn’t have a bad day. Tyron Brackenridge and Derek Cox weren’t that bad. Sure Derek got burned by Reggie Wayne, but so will a lot of veterans. And I like Torry Holt’s swag when he catches the ball. He didn’t light it up, but look at him when he makes the catch.

by moufpuncha on Sep 14, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it was a game to love or hate

I am glad you saw the positive.

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by Tkopa on Sep 14, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Positivity is awesome

Tyron really did deserve a roster spot

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by TheTealDeal on Sep 14, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other then the one penalty late I actually really like Knighton

Considering his size he really has good feet and foot speed, you often see him part of tackles on runs to the outside

by Jermaside4 on Sep 14, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

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