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Jacksonville, can it become a big sports city?




Jacksonville has a lot of potential.  We have the largest land area of any city in the US.   We have terrific beaches,  education, and a lot of good people here. But thats just my opinion,  here are both sides of the story.

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1. Yes we can!

Jacksonville is a major football city.  The South is known for their never ending hunger for football (usually college).  We just need to translate it into ticket sales.  Most colleges around here sell out before the season starts. The Jaguars can do that too,  we just need to generate the same amount of devotion college fans give their teams.

 We also have a great city to play in.  Jacksonville is sunny and inviting.  Florida is known for its beaches and great weather.  The St. Johns River runs right next to the stadium,  which gives you a great view and provides a lot of jobs and entertainment.  It might not be the cleanest River in the world,  but i have been on it many times,  and it is great to swim in and stays moderately cool in the summer.

We also have the ability to grow.  Jacksonville can expand.  We are a reletively young city in terms of growth and professional sports.  15 years isn't a very long time for a pro sports team.  Many of our young fans are just beginning to grow up.  The economy is also hurting our ticket sales.  I personally know a few families that have sold their season tickets,  and im sure its happening in other places.

2.  Nope, they are gonna leave

College football has way too much influence around Jacksonville.  We just can't build up a fan base large enough to fill up our stadium and compete with college teams.  Eventually were going to keep losing tickets untill the team moves to another city.   Jacksonville is surrounded by prominent college teams, and we can't beat them all.

Jacksonville can't grow fast enough.  The team will have to leave before we can gain enough fans to keep us here.  The economy just won't bounce back fast enough to allow people to get tickets.  This is a race against time,  and so far the Jaguars are losing.  Jacksonville will need to step up, or find help to sell their tickets and stay in this city.

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A big sports city?

They can’t keep one NFL team!

The Teal and Black are comin' back!

by arthardie on Sep 2, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they can...

and last time I looked, they still had a NFL team. Last year, only half the NFL teams averaged more people in attendance at the 8 homes games than the Jags. We are still a very young franchise and with the growth of Jacksonville, I have no doubt that Jacksonville can be a big sports city. Of course, a consistent winner wouldn’t hurt.

by Jaggernaut on Sep 2, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting tidbit here

did you know that 76% of adults 18 and up in Jacksonville follow the Jags?
thats approx. 615,600 people!!

Thanks for the memories Fred

by Rufio904 on Sep 2, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m poor… I got child Support… <that’s their excuse> lol

by floridafalcons#63 on Sep 2, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch the bilge rats come scurring up the connection ropes

into the Ship once the Jags get it going.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Leader of the Run-Paul-Smith-Out-Of-Town Club **--Mission Complete--**
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 2, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deal is right ...

Winning will cure what ails us. The indiginous half of the city that is infected with a passion for college football will share its allegiance, and the half that relocated from elsewhere and retains its passion for another team will jump on the bandwagon like a mongoose on a snake. Or a bilge rat.

by ruffdaddy on Sep 2, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't destroy the UF vs UGA game

Jacksonville needs all the revenue it can get. All the people who come for that game bring a lot of money here. Its like our own mini-playoff game (in money).

by kujo24 on Sep 2, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

blame it on Shack

Six years of drafting and no superstars. Six years of overpaid, underachieving crack addicts and thugs and malcontents turned a city of mostly hard-working blue collar people off when it came to a team they couldn’t identify with. Wayne Weaver has made two big mistakes with his franchise. One was hiring Shack over Gene and the other was believing that putting games on tv when they should have been blacked out would eventually get more fans to buy tickets.

by jagsrealist on Sep 2, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank god the second mistake has been corrected

Either the blackouts work, or this city doesn’t deserve the Jaguars. The end.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 2, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO WE CAN NOT!!!!!!!

The colleges around our area that have a very large fan base are recruiting HIGH CALIBER PLAYERS, thats why they keep winning and keep their fans!!!!!

The JAGUARS, on the other hand, dont want to spend the money to bring in HIGH CALIBER PLAYERS, thats why we keep losing games and fans!!!!!!

1. NO, you have to win games to give the fans something to brag about….AKA no wins, no tickets!!!!!!

2. NO, as long as FIRST BAPTIST has DOWNTOWN JACKSONVILLE in a choke hole, it will never develop into a main attraction for Jacksonville…….

by Elmer T on Sep 2, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That is ridculous and under-handed

First of all the Jaguars do spend money on high calibar people aka our draft picks? Just because you spend 25m in guareenteed money do not mean you’re getting a higher calibar player…If you build through the draft you save money and retain value. It you realized this maybe things would be clear as to why we are rebuilding and not like the Patroits/Dolphins/Steelers, whoever.

And lastly, First Baptist does not have downtown jacksonville in a chokehold, if anything the Unbuilt Courthouse does. If you want people to live in downtown Jacksonville you need to add more apartments, etc for people to live in. FBC does not signficantly impact this. I digress because of this not being a football matter.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Leader of the Run-Paul-Smith-Out-Of-Town Club **--Mission Complete--**
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 2, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atleast Tom Coughlin

Atleast Tom Coughlin Opened his mouth!!!!!! and said no…..

by Elmer T on Sep 2, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lay down and die

Is that what you all are resolved to do? This is becoming a recurring theme. To cry about the issue is a miscue. If you focus on the problem, instead of the solution, you’ll never solve it. If you don’t like our situation, do something! Those of you who have admitted defeat before the battle has ended are cowards. Plain and simple. I know, let’s infect others with negativity and defeatism. Things are bad, I am not blind. However, I have hope. I also have tickets. I’m disgusted by this wanton display of insecurity. Where is your heart? Where are your balls? “Nope, there’s no chance now. It’s over. Jacksonville sucks.” You sound like a bunch of sniveling little girls. Cry about that. Just don’t do it where I can see. It’s unbecoming. Is this a fan site or not? I’m ashamed for you.

Vae Victis!

by viator on Sep 2, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL!!!! @ Viator

Hey I see a 10-6 season 1st round this year!!!!

by Elmer T on Sep 2, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Elmer

you keep mentioning spending money on free agents

who would you have bought this year. Be serious. Team tebow is still in college

LateRoundPick.com

by Surteal on Sep 2, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Surteal......

Daunte Culpepper,Mike Vick, Backup QB….Asante Samuels,or Leto Sheppard CB………, Marvin Harrison and Torry Holt WR……… Gabe Watson DT

by Elmer T on Sep 3, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i can’t make my mind up about Harrison. He hasn’t looked that good at all in recent time played.

Lito Sheppard i agree with.

I don’t know Gabe Watson.

Culpepper was retired until Detroit basically gave him the start by default.

Mike Vick….I say no because of Gene’s good character movement and the negatie publicity. Good could have come from it, however.

Asante Samuel…are you serious? You must be from Washington.

Torry Holt….who would say no when you consider the contract?

LateRoundPick.com

by Surteal on Sep 3, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lito "Deck" Sheppard would of been okay

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Leader of the Run-Paul-Smith-Out-Of-Town Club **--Mission Complete--**
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 3, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Surteal.......

Marvin Harrison is basically the same contract, everybody know he and Peyton got into it with each other and Peyton stop throwing him the ball…….

Gabe Watson was Arizona DT…….that basically got them to the Superbowl with his force in the middle……..

Lito WANTED to come back home and we wouldnt take him……….

Asante was just a good corner that was available..

We did get Torry Holt…….

Culpepper out of retirement is still better than any BACKUP we have and would be a great fit if Garrard went down……

Mike Vick………The Eagles PLAYED everybody by coming out first and saying that they didnt want him knowing it would spark the league teams to follow in their words knowing the whole time that they did want him………and like I have said the whole time it wouldnt be BAD to bring a changed man on the team……. and as far as Negative Publicity, it cant be any worse than it already has, so the only way to go from there is Positive……I never got that Negative part…..Its been public for two years. Not like it just happened and the team signed him two weeks later……..If the PETA protesters keep on they are gonna get burned…..This is America and we love football Period….Those people keep coming out in front of stadiums, its like they protesting football……They gonna end up in front of the wrong stadium trying to protest and get trampled…….Mark my words…….

by Elmer T on Sep 3, 2009 6:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Elmer

I want to see more comments like this from you. You’ve proved me wrong. Let me see a display of intellect when you write man. I think you made some very valid points here, and I tend to agree with some of them. I would also sign Marvin Harrison. I think he’d be cheap and still good enough to make some plays. I also think Mike Vick would make a good backup, and if he showed his butt, we could cut him. I think PETA is ridiculous, and I want to see more than anyone that Vick has changed. I’m on board with the youth movement and the good character player movement, but Vick is still young, and I think he knows he almost lost his career. Everyone is complaining about tickets….

You don’t have to agree with me guys, but Elmer has some good points. Vick’s not the popular choice, but it makes too much sense to me from a business standpoint.

by Blair72 on Sep 3, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My concern about Vick would be those "WE WANT VICK" chants that happened in Philly

The last thing this team needs is another intense quarterback controversy. There are too many other problems.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 3, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elmer

Blair just said everything i would’ve said.

And i would’ve put a great PR spin on Vick. Come to town and watch Vick turn it around

or something, i had trouble not being corny there

LateRoundPick.com

by Surteal on Sep 3, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

Buy a ticket and watch Vick flick it!

by Blair72 on Sep 3, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahahaha

I think I just scared my roommates with my laughing.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 3, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Watch him run, Vick's number 1"

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Leader of the Run-Paul-Smith-Out-Of-Town Club **--Mission Complete--**
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 3, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question is

how much bad press can the Jags take from here? Lets say we got Mike Vick, then we would be a better team. but we would lose fans. The Jags can’t take that right now, and we wouldn’t win many more games with Vick. however, i do like Marvin Harrison. No way we could overpay that guy.

by kujo24 on Sep 3, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a colt 45 and a car wash

innocence is all i need

LateRoundPick.com

by Surteal on Sep 3, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lose fans?

I dont know man. I think it could go either way. You’d lose some and you’d gain some, but I bet it’d sell tickets…

by Blair72 on Sep 3, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can hold on long enough...

I know everyone has heard this theory before and it may just be wishful thinking but most true Jags fans are just coming to the age where they can afford season tickets. I was seven during the first season so the Jags have been my team unlike most of the current potential season ticket holders who grew up with another franchise. I’m 20 now and still in college (WFU) but I’m going to make it to at least three games this season (Cards, Colts and Fins see you there!). The tickets are still my dad’s but once I’m out of school, I’ll be first in line to buy tickets. Hopefully enough people like us will be graduating or at the point in their careers where they can afford to be ticket holders Hell it ain’t that much!

by rusty904 on Sep 3, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How about this,

If every family in the stadium brought ONE friend, for just one game, we would see ticket revenue go up.The average size family is 4 people. So we would have 15,000 people new people come in this season. Lets say most enjoyed the game and 10% came back to see it again. Thats 1500 new people per season. Seems pretty good to me.

by kujo24 on Sep 3, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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